Finally, a person on the site that knows how things work.
No sense trying to have a disscusion with lost souls.
My father came me some of the best advice I've ever recieved, when I was a youngster and he said,............................................... son, when you go out it the world you'll run into people who are so dumb they don't even know how dumb they are for these people you'll need to exercise calm and understanding because you'll never convince them they are not dumb, cause if you could they would not be dumb to begin with................................................
Finally, a person on the site that knows how things work.
No sense trying to have a disscusion with lost souls.
My father came me some of the best advice I've ever recieved, when I was a youngster and he said,............................................... son, when you go out it the world you'll run into people who are so dumb they don't even know how dumb they are for these people you'll need to exercise calm and understanding because you'll never convince them they are not dumb, cause if you could they would not be dumb to begin with................................................
2+2 = 4
College players are bought mostly to get them to attend the school, or keep them there and keep them happy. If there are some documented cases (div-1/FBS) of college football athletes bought to throw games or fix outcomes, please show me those incidents. I'm not saying it doesn't, or has never happened, but if you are so sure it has, please share.
NFL is different, as those players are paid a lot of money. Especially the ones that could alter the outcome of the game.
As for you being a moron, if you truly believe the results of all these games are under the control of the NFL and Las Vegas, then I stand by what I said. I never stated you were a bad capper, or that I was a good one, nor did I state any intention to fade you, or anyone for that matter, ever, in any thread.
Good luck on your goal of 70%.
2+2 = 4
College players are bought mostly to get them to attend the school, or keep them there and keep them happy. If there are some documented cases (div-1/FBS) of college football athletes bought to throw games or fix outcomes, please show me those incidents. I'm not saying it doesn't, or has never happened, but if you are so sure it has, please share.
NFL is different, as those players are paid a lot of money. Especially the ones that could alter the outcome of the game.
As for you being a moron, if you truly believe the results of all these games are under the control of the NFL and Las Vegas, then I stand by what I said. I never stated you were a bad capper, or that I was a good one, nor did I state any intention to fade you, or anyone for that matter, ever, in any thread.
Good luck on your goal of 70%.
But who decides when to fix it?? Who decides which games?? Who calls what players? You keep mocking people for suggesting theories, but you have given none that are plausible.
Obviously one call or one play CAN (and HAS) determined the outcome of the game. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS FIXED!!
You said Vegas was fixing games to avoid taking a hit on a public heavy game. I just want to know at what point that decision is made, and what tangible evidence you have that it has happened.
Who fixed the Raiders game? I'm done arguing the line movement. Fine, let's just say you are right and 16 was a GREAT number for the books. Who decided that it fell on 16? What players, refs, calls, etc, made that happen?
"Manning, drop the ball".....LOL......it's comments like this that give you ZERO credibility. ZERO!!! Football is NOT that simple. Sure, there could be a spot in a game where Manning could F up a play and make something happen, but so many other things have to be in place BEFORE that happens that even have a shot at being in that situation.
So.......I still await your evidence.................
.............sounds like a lot of you "fixed" guys are just upset about losses you took at some point, or just sore losers and/or crybabies. I mean, if you were winning on these fixes, why be upset about it.
I mean let's look at it this way. If Vegas and the NFL and the players and the refs are really controlling the outcome of games beforehand, and you have PROOF of it, IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST STORIES/SCANDALS IN SPORTS HISTORY!! But you are hear on covers, not providing anything except wild "theories" and trying to act like you know what's going on, when in reality you don't know jack $hit.
But who decides when to fix it?? Who decides which games?? Who calls what players? You keep mocking people for suggesting theories, but you have given none that are plausible.
Obviously one call or one play CAN (and HAS) determined the outcome of the game. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS FIXED!!
You said Vegas was fixing games to avoid taking a hit on a public heavy game. I just want to know at what point that decision is made, and what tangible evidence you have that it has happened.
Who fixed the Raiders game? I'm done arguing the line movement. Fine, let's just say you are right and 16 was a GREAT number for the books. Who decided that it fell on 16? What players, refs, calls, etc, made that happen?
"Manning, drop the ball".....LOL......it's comments like this that give you ZERO credibility. ZERO!!! Football is NOT that simple. Sure, there could be a spot in a game where Manning could F up a play and make something happen, but so many other things have to be in place BEFORE that happens that even have a shot at being in that situation.
So.......I still await your evidence.................
.............sounds like a lot of you "fixed" guys are just upset about losses you took at some point, or just sore losers and/or crybabies. I mean, if you were winning on these fixes, why be upset about it.
I mean let's look at it this way. If Vegas and the NFL and the players and the refs are really controlling the outcome of games beforehand, and you have PROOF of it, IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST STORIES/SCANDALS IN SPORTS HISTORY!! But you are hear on covers, not providing anything except wild "theories" and trying to act like you know what's going on, when in reality you don't know jack $hit.
Of course you don't KNOW a line will move. But if you are on the fence on a game, and then the line DOES move, you can hit it. If the line stays, or moves the other way, you pass.
If the line increase to 17 makes you think Denver is the play, and you take it, that's a square play. Sharps get good lines, and pass on bad ones. The value at taking Denver at -17 was gone, the ship had sailed. People making bets at Denverm-16/-17 would not have been heavy hitters playing big $$$. So based on that, I would say more money was probably coming in on Oakland at that point, because anyone looking to get a big bet on them that hadn't bet already would have hit them at the higher line.
Again, that is why lines move, to balance the money.
Of course you don't KNOW a line will move. But if you are on the fence on a game, and then the line DOES move, you can hit it. If the line stays, or moves the other way, you pass.
If the line increase to 17 makes you think Denver is the play, and you take it, that's a square play. Sharps get good lines, and pass on bad ones. The value at taking Denver at -17 was gone, the ship had sailed. People making bets at Denverm-16/-17 would not have been heavy hitters playing big $$$. So based on that, I would say more money was probably coming in on Oakland at that point, because anyone looking to get a big bet on them that hadn't bet already would have hit them at the higher line.
Again, that is why lines move, to balance the money.
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