I only had a Super Contest pick on the line, so it cost me $11.11. Thus save your .
What amuses me is that how this play is viewed / argued seemingly depends on what side the bettor is on. The reality is both sides are right.
1) scoring the touchdown will also end the game so much so that the ESPN win probability is 97 %+ on the two 10 point games with similar tracking this season. Yes, of course NYJ can score a touchdown, get the onside, and posture themselves for another score. Just not more than 3 times out of 100. Of course sliding affords for victory formation. There is also an argument of NFL Tie Breaking Procedures namely 9,10,11 (https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures)
2) Sliding is not 100 % either. Maybe like 99.99% with a shit snap hitting buddies thigh or Mahomes thinking about Swift and dropping the ball. Point is there is no argument here that by doing that the game is also over. You could also make the argument here that you'd prefer your half billion dollar QB to not take a big goal line hit, a reasonable and prudent person would accept that.
What troubles me first is the location and layout of the play. This isn't in your own end or somewhere in the middle of the field, it is at the goal line and you've done 90 % of the work. The most likely outcome is TD.
The bigger issue is contrary to what the NFL says, and their continued "sports entertainment" argument, the NFL is married to the gaming industry more than ever. Most bettors play on the presumption that an outcome is somewhat predictable (to their own standards whatever they may be). I am sure there were bets taken for the outcome of that last drive. I would bet most of my roll "Mahomes running for first down and sliding to kill the game +1250" was not one of those options. So when players and coaches step outside the norm, it cheapens the experience and sows seeds of doubt about both products. Unless you come out on top of course then its heady, cerebral, or analytically the right call.
The NFL will never be unwatchable to the masses and people will never stop betting. Even if the US books standardize juice to -125 (many are already -112 or -115). But more of these anomalies will pop up from players and coaches that know everything, including their madden rankings, but not the line for the week. All the while, we will be here on covers banging our heads against the wall about the correct call.......based majorily on what side we're on.
BOL tonight whichever side and be kind to each other.
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I only had a Super Contest pick on the line, so it cost me $11.11. Thus save your .
What amuses me is that how this play is viewed / argued seemingly depends on what side the bettor is on. The reality is both sides are right.
1) scoring the touchdown will also end the game so much so that the ESPN win probability is 97 %+ on the two 10 point games with similar tracking this season. Yes, of course NYJ can score a touchdown, get the onside, and posture themselves for another score. Just not more than 3 times out of 100. Of course sliding affords for victory formation. There is also an argument of NFL Tie Breaking Procedures namely 9,10,11 (https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures)
2) Sliding is not 100 % either. Maybe like 99.99% with a shit snap hitting buddies thigh or Mahomes thinking about Swift and dropping the ball. Point is there is no argument here that by doing that the game is also over. You could also make the argument here that you'd prefer your half billion dollar QB to not take a big goal line hit, a reasonable and prudent person would accept that.
What troubles me first is the location and layout of the play. This isn't in your own end or somewhere in the middle of the field, it is at the goal line and you've done 90 % of the work. The most likely outcome is TD.
The bigger issue is contrary to what the NFL says, and their continued "sports entertainment" argument, the NFL is married to the gaming industry more than ever. Most bettors play on the presumption that an outcome is somewhat predictable (to their own standards whatever they may be). I am sure there were bets taken for the outcome of that last drive. I would bet most of my roll "Mahomes running for first down and sliding to kill the game +1250" was not one of those options. So when players and coaches step outside the norm, it cheapens the experience and sows seeds of doubt about both products. Unless you come out on top of course then its heady, cerebral, or analytically the right call.
The NFL will never be unwatchable to the masses and people will never stop betting. Even if the US books standardize juice to -125 (many are already -112 or -115). But more of these anomalies will pop up from players and coaches that know everything, including their madden rankings, but not the line for the week. All the while, we will be here on covers banging our heads against the wall about the correct call.......based majorily on what side we're on.
BOL tonight whichever side and be kind to each other.
Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. EVER.
Literally last season, Nick Chubb for the Browns scored a TD right after the two minute warning to go up 30-17. The JETS came back and won the game 31-30. LAST SEASON.
That should be all you need to know. Of course sliding was the right decision.
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OK, its actually pretty simple.
Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. EVER.
Literally last season, Nick Chubb for the Browns scored a TD right after the two minute warning to go up 30-17. The JETS came back and won the game 31-30. LAST SEASON.
That should be all you need to know. Of course sliding was the right decision.
Respect everyone's opinion but it's not a mystery imo; Mahomes wants to win Super Bowls and doesn't care whether he beats the Jets by 3 or 10. He knew by sliding he'd avoid taking a hit and the game would be over. It was the smart play from his perspective.
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Respect everyone's opinion but it's not a mystery imo; Mahomes wants to win Super Bowls and doesn't care whether he beats the Jets by 3 or 10. He knew by sliding he'd avoid taking a hit and the game would be over. It was the smart play from his perspective.
OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. .
Lol, the same leftist douchebags that are lined up for the 'safe n effective' booster x6 are the same arrogant douchebags that post factually incorrect information.
How can an imbecile who calls people cavemen be so ignorant of NFL history? Maybe google Herm Edwards and kindly shut the fuck up - your vaccine is talking again.
This play happened in New York:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7-komLkBsI
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. .
Lol, the same leftist douchebags that are lined up for the 'safe n effective' booster x6 are the same arrogant douchebags that post factually incorrect information.
How can an imbecile who calls people cavemen be so ignorant of NFL history? Maybe google Herm Edwards and kindly shut the fuck up - your vaccine is talking again.
For the record, I do believe games like last night are 'shaded' to the desired outcome but 100% I think Mahomes did the correct and logical thing. I dont think for a second Mahomes gave a shit about the spread nor did he want to screw KC bettors. He just need he could finish with the ball in his hand and within his control. Taking a kneel down snap would be completely on him - where as kick coverage would leave a tiny element of chance to the special teams players and defense.
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For the record, I do believe games like last night are 'shaded' to the desired outcome but 100% I think Mahomes did the correct and logical thing. I dont think for a second Mahomes gave a shit about the spread nor did he want to screw KC bettors. He just need he could finish with the ball in his hand and within his control. Taking a kneel down snap would be completely on him - where as kick coverage would leave a tiny element of chance to the special teams players and defense.
@vanzack Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. . Lol, the same leftist douchebags that are lined up for the 'safe n effective' booster x6 are the same arrogant douchebags that post factually incorrect information. How can imbecile who calls people cavemen be so ignorant of NFL history. Maybe google Herm Edwards and kindly shut the fuck up - your vaccine is talking again.
Learn how to read. Maybe you should shut the fuck up and your vaccine is talking again. This was on a handoff and not a kneel down you clown.
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Quote Originally Posted by GreasyFat:
@vanzack Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. . Lol, the same leftist douchebags that are lined up for the 'safe n effective' booster x6 are the same arrogant douchebags that post factually incorrect information. How can imbecile who calls people cavemen be so ignorant of NFL history. Maybe google Herm Edwards and kindly shut the fuck up - your vaccine is talking again.
Learn how to read. Maybe you should shut the fuck up and your vaccine is talking again. This was on a handoff and not a kneel down you clown.
@vanzack Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. . Lol, the same leftist douchebags that are lined up for the 'safe n effective' booster x6 are the same arrogant douchebags that post factually incorrect information. How can an imbecile who calls people cavemen be so ignorant of NFL history? Maybe google Herm Edwards and kindly shut the fuck up - your vaccine is talking again. This play happened in New York: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7-komLkBsI
Thats not a kneel down. Mouthbreathing moron.
And I got my booster on Saturday! Feeling great. Hasnt affected my reading comprehension or critical thinking skills yet, maybe you should try!
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Quote Originally Posted by GreasyFat:
@vanzack Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. . Lol, the same leftist douchebags that are lined up for the 'safe n effective' booster x6 are the same arrogant douchebags that post factually incorrect information. How can an imbecile who calls people cavemen be so ignorant of NFL history? Maybe google Herm Edwards and kindly shut the fuck up - your vaccine is talking again. This play happened in New York: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7-komLkBsI
Thats not a kneel down. Mouthbreathing moron.
And I got my booster on Saturday! Feeling great. Hasnt affected my reading comprehension or critical thinking skills yet, maybe you should try!
high IQ QBs slide while dumb QB try to run for a TD. Why running if you could end the game right there. I couodnt sleep last night ?????? because of the last slide.
Adding Malhomes into my black list??
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high IQ QBs slide while dumb QB try to run for a TD. Why running if you could end the game right there. I couodnt sleep last night ?????? because of the last slide.
The jets had 30 seconds left with no timeouts remaining. I would love to hear to what was said on the radio inside Mahomes helmet right before or during the play to get down and not score. I'll bet you a steak dinner there is audio somewhere that would shed light on the subject being discussed. Someday it will surface just like the Tim Donaghy scandal. That which is made secret eventually comes to light. On to the next.
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The jets had 30 seconds left with no timeouts remaining. I would love to hear to what was said on the radio inside Mahomes helmet right before or during the play to get down and not score. I'll bet you a steak dinner there is audio somewhere that would shed light on the subject being discussed. Someday it will surface just like the Tim Donaghy scandal. That which is made secret eventually comes to light. On to the next.
It's the same BS all the time. Idiots who can't accept a loss think it must be fixed because they're unable to believe they could actually be dumb and bad at gambling, or bad at anything. In America everyone is raised to believe they're number 1 (i grew up there also) and they're always gonna be winners.
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It's the same BS all the time. Idiots who can't accept a loss think it must be fixed because they're unable to believe they could actually be dumb and bad at gambling, or bad at anything. In America everyone is raised to believe they're number 1 (i grew up there also) and they're always gonna be winners.
OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. EVER. Literally last season, Nick Chubb for the Browns scored a TD right after the two minute warning to go up 30-17. The JETS came back and won the game 31-30. LAST SEASON. That should be all you need to know. Of course sliding was the right decision.
By him taking the knee, it gave the Chiefs a 100% chance to win...and what is better than 100%? therefore, it was always the right move.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
OK, its actually pretty simple. Nobody in the history of the NFL has fumbled away a snap on a kneel down. EVER. Literally last season, Nick Chubb for the Browns scored a TD right after the two minute warning to go up 30-17. The JETS came back and won the game 31-30. LAST SEASON. That should be all you need to know. Of course sliding was the right decision.
By him taking the knee, it gave the Chiefs a 100% chance to win...and what is better than 100%? therefore, it was always the right move.
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