Not saying he was sacked !!! But the defense stopping them not ONCE !!! BUT TWICE on 4th down and picking off manning twice had alot to do with them losing !!!
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:
How many times was he sacked then?
Not saying he was sacked !!! But the defense stopping them not ONCE !!! BUT TWICE on 4th down and picking off manning twice had alot to do with them losing !!!
Liked your picks this season Talent, but I feel like your judgement might be a little clouded here. I just think that you are putting too much into the crowd being a factor. Give me some more reasons to take Zona here.
Crowd factor is a big key. Atlanta's coach and players said that it was a huge advantage for AZ's front 4. Just look how Eagles struggled Offensively in Minny with their crowd noise. And Minny did not even have their best run stopper.
AZ's front for is very fast and combine that with the Eagles having to use silent counts or go off the snap of the ball...watch out.
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Quote Originally Posted by jnugz187:
Liked your picks this season Talent, but I feel like your judgement might be a little clouded here. I just think that you are putting too much into the crowd being a factor. Give me some more reasons to take Zona here.
Crowd factor is a big key. Atlanta's coach and players said that it was a huge advantage for AZ's front 4. Just look how Eagles struggled Offensively in Minny with their crowd noise. And Minny did not even have their best run stopper.
AZ's front for is very fast and combine that with the Eagles having to use silent counts or go off the snap of the ball...watch out.
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Philadelphia -3 5 units Pound it
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Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Philadelphia -3 5 units Pound it
0
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Philadelphia -3 5 units Pound it
0
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Philadelphia -3 5 units Pound it
0
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Philadelphia -3 5 units Pound it
I understand the way you are trying to cap this game. Unfortunetely, everyone knows that the playoffs are a new season. If you still want to cap based on the regular season, then go for it. I on the otherhand will cap based on playoff performance.
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Quote Originally Posted by hellcat3:
Arizona has not seen a real D yet in the post season. Carolina 19th and I think Atlanta 25th? is even worse. Will McNabb throw 5 picks? Doubt it. Arizona D ranked 18th Philladelphia has played two top 10 defenses already in this post season. Dawkins and the boys will get after Warner. Please note:
Steelers ranked 1st in Defense
Ravens ranked 2nd in Defense
Eagles ranked 3rd in Defense
Amazingly all of these teams are still in it. Arizona ranked 18th playing their season in the touted NFC West (2 games with the Seahawks Niners and Rams) Philadelphia routed them the first time they will cover 3 this time. This line should be 6 and I will be very suprised if it doesn't move off of 3.
Phildelphia 30
Cards 21
i did cap the Cards to cover the last two games. i have put down 5 units twice this season 2-0( Both on the Giants)
Philadelphia -3 5 units Pound it
I understand the way you are trying to cap this game. Unfortunetely, everyone knows that the playoffs are a new season. If you still want to cap based on the regular season, then go for it. I on the otherhand will cap based on playoff performance.
Nothing is a "lock" but I really think the Eagles are the play here. If you win I will be one of the first to congratulate you on your play. Plus I wouldn't mind seeing the Cards in the Superbowl.... I hate the Eagles
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Nothing is a "lock" but I really think the Eagles are the play here. If you win I will be one of the first to congratulate you on your play. Plus I wouldn't mind seeing the Cards in the Superbowl.... I hate the Eagles
talent888...that stat 0-10 su and 1-9ats...did u verify that stat... I like the cards too and the crowd noise will work in favor of the cards...they play so much better at home and they are peaking at the right time...fitzgerald is the key...it doesnt matter if he is double teamed..he out leaps anyone for the ball...
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talent888...that stat 0-10 su and 1-9ats...did u verify that stat... I like the cards too and the crowd noise will work in favor of the cards...they play so much better at home and they are peaking at the right time...fitzgerald is the key...it doesnt matter if he is double teamed..he out leaps anyone for the ball...
In Philly, everyone already is talking Super Bowl. On SportsCenter, every single analyst predicted a Keystone Super Bowl. Why is Philly even making the trip out if it has been decided already?
The Eagles don't play well when they're expected to win. Conversely, they're always victorious when all the chips are down.
Meanwhile, the Cardinals get to continue this "Us Against the World" mentality they had going at Carolina. From a psychological standpoint, I have no idea how the Eagles are going to win this game. With everyone already penciling them into the Super Bowl, they seem poised for one of their epic collapses - right up there with the Tampa Bay and Carolina NFC Championships, and the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. I'll fade the public and go with the wiseguys...and you.
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In Philly, everyone already is talking Super Bowl. On SportsCenter, every single analyst predicted a Keystone Super Bowl. Why is Philly even making the trip out if it has been decided already?
The Eagles don't play well when they're expected to win. Conversely, they're always victorious when all the chips are down.
Meanwhile, the Cardinals get to continue this "Us Against the World" mentality they had going at Carolina. From a psychological standpoint, I have no idea how the Eagles are going to win this game. With everyone already penciling them into the Super Bowl, they seem poised for one of their epic collapses - right up there with the Tampa Bay and Carolina NFC Championships, and the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. I'll fade the public and go with the wiseguys...and you.
I read over your post and you make several valid points to back Zona, but I think your weather post is going to fall into the hands of the Eagles. First and foremost David "Green" Akers will be able to hit from 50 yards easily not to mention he's been kicking out of his mind lately. Westbrook's knee should feel a lot better and that is the biggest weapon on the field beside Fitzs.
I agree this game will be close and will not resemble the Thanksgiving game in the least, however, I just don't think you can compare McNabb to Delhomme and a rookie QB. As far as the crowd noise just look at the Giants game and watch Jamaal Jackson's head before he snapped the ball it's called a silent count. You act like this is the first time Andy Reid is getting his team ready for a big game. I think you need to re-look and re-think this game. Zona's crowd really aren't used to this kind of atmosphere so I am sure Philly is on a business trip an nothing more.
As far as running the football on offense, no way Zona will be balanced. The way the Eagles are playing D I don't see Zona running the ball enough to be effective. Edge will be in on 3rd downs to block b/c you have a rookie in Hightower (who will not know where the pressure is coming from) which will slow their running game down.
I think Zona has a great Offense and will cause problems if the Eagles aren't able to get pressure on Warner, but I think they will get Zona's O off balanced enough to cause some havoc and ruin the timing of the receiver's routes. Anyway, I think Philly wins by at least 10.
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Talent,
I read over your post and you make several valid points to back Zona, but I think your weather post is going to fall into the hands of the Eagles. First and foremost David "Green" Akers will be able to hit from 50 yards easily not to mention he's been kicking out of his mind lately. Westbrook's knee should feel a lot better and that is the biggest weapon on the field beside Fitzs.
I agree this game will be close and will not resemble the Thanksgiving game in the least, however, I just don't think you can compare McNabb to Delhomme and a rookie QB. As far as the crowd noise just look at the Giants game and watch Jamaal Jackson's head before he snapped the ball it's called a silent count. You act like this is the first time Andy Reid is getting his team ready for a big game. I think you need to re-look and re-think this game. Zona's crowd really aren't used to this kind of atmosphere so I am sure Philly is on a business trip an nothing more.
As far as running the football on offense, no way Zona will be balanced. The way the Eagles are playing D I don't see Zona running the ball enough to be effective. Edge will be in on 3rd downs to block b/c you have a rookie in Hightower (who will not know where the pressure is coming from) which will slow their running game down.
I think Zona has a great Offense and will cause problems if the Eagles aren't able to get pressure on Warner, but I think they will get Zona's O off balanced enough to cause some havoc and ruin the timing of the receiver's routes. Anyway, I think Philly wins by at least 10.
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