QUOTE Originally Posted by Aalon: As far as N.O./Minn, I think it's foolhardy to base anything about the Saints off of the Carolina playoff game. Need we be reminded that was their 3rd meeting this year. And yet, the Saints owned that game until Carolina made a run late. The Panthers surely know a few things Minnesota will not. It is VERY difficult to beat a team 3 times in 1 year and the Saints did that. Plus Cam Newton probably played the best game of his career accuracy wise and they still lost. Also, while the Minnesota defense is solid, their stats got padded at the end of the season and with a soft, home friendly schedule. The Saints were the opposite with an absoluetly brutal road schedule. Something has to be said for a battle tested team with a HOF QB. Think 2010 Packers. You'll see what that means tomorrow. Okay that's fine, then lets base it off week 17 when the Saints lost to the Bucs in a game where they would have sealed the division with a win.Better?Vikings are the superior team
Do you still like Vikings at -5.5?
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
QUOTE Originally Posted by Aalon: As far as N.O./Minn, I think it's foolhardy to base anything about the Saints off of the Carolina playoff game. Need we be reminded that was their 3rd meeting this year. And yet, the Saints owned that game until Carolina made a run late. The Panthers surely know a few things Minnesota will not. It is VERY difficult to beat a team 3 times in 1 year and the Saints did that. Plus Cam Newton probably played the best game of his career accuracy wise and they still lost. Also, while the Minnesota defense is solid, their stats got padded at the end of the season and with a soft, home friendly schedule. The Saints were the opposite with an absoluetly brutal road schedule. Something has to be said for a battle tested team with a HOF QB. Think 2010 Packers. You'll see what that means tomorrow. Okay that's fine, then lets base it off week 17 when the Saints lost to the Bucs in a game where they would have sealed the division with a win.Better?Vikings are the superior team
QUOTE Originally Posted by Aalon: As far as N.O./Minn, I think it's foolhardy to base anything about the Saints off of the Carolina playoff game. Need we be reminded that was their 3rd meeting this year. And yet, the Saints owned that game until Carolina made a run late. The Panthers surely know a few things Minnesota will not. It is VERY difficult to beat a team 3 times in 1 year and the Saints did that. Plus Cam Newton probably played the best game of his career accuracy wise and they still lost. Also, while the Minnesota defense is solid, their stats got padded at the end of the season and with a soft, home friendly schedule. The Saints were the opposite with an absoluetly brutal road schedule. Something has to be said for a battle tested team with a HOF QB. Think 2010 Packers. You'll see what that means tomorrow. Okay that's fine, then lets base it off week 17 when the Saints lost to the Bucs in a game where they would have sealed the division with a win.Better?Vikings are the superior team
Did you watch that game? Were you aware of the implications of the Carolina/Atlanta game going on at the same time? If you did, you'd realize the Saints pretty much owned that Tampa game right up until it was known that Atlanta would win, so their game would be meaningless. Tampa scored 18 4th quarter point to eek that one out.
Do we know for sure the Saints lost focus and let their foot off the pedal on Tampa's final drives? Who knows. But it seems kinda stupid to point to that one game as evidence of Minnesota's superiority. A team that faced a schedule with a less than .500 SOS, as opposed to the Saints .535 SOS.
Saints also faced 5 playoff teams on the road and were 2-3. An absolute brutal schedule. So today will be nothing new for them.
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
QUOTE Originally Posted by Aalon: As far as N.O./Minn, I think it's foolhardy to base anything about the Saints off of the Carolina playoff game. Need we be reminded that was their 3rd meeting this year. And yet, the Saints owned that game until Carolina made a run late. The Panthers surely know a few things Minnesota will not. It is VERY difficult to beat a team 3 times in 1 year and the Saints did that. Plus Cam Newton probably played the best game of his career accuracy wise and they still lost. Also, while the Minnesota defense is solid, their stats got padded at the end of the season and with a soft, home friendly schedule. The Saints were the opposite with an absoluetly brutal road schedule. Something has to be said for a battle tested team with a HOF QB. Think 2010 Packers. You'll see what that means tomorrow. Okay that's fine, then lets base it off week 17 when the Saints lost to the Bucs in a game where they would have sealed the division with a win.Better?Vikings are the superior team
Did you watch that game? Were you aware of the implications of the Carolina/Atlanta game going on at the same time? If you did, you'd realize the Saints pretty much owned that Tampa game right up until it was known that Atlanta would win, so their game would be meaningless. Tampa scored 18 4th quarter point to eek that one out.
Do we know for sure the Saints lost focus and let their foot off the pedal on Tampa's final drives? Who knows. But it seems kinda stupid to point to that one game as evidence of Minnesota's superiority. A team that faced a schedule with a less than .500 SOS, as opposed to the Saints .535 SOS.
Saints also faced 5 playoff teams on the road and were 2-3. An absolute brutal schedule. So today will be nothing new for them.
As a game planner, what would one do against Bortles? What's the game plan? I guess for me I just can't see this guy going back into Pittsburgh and winning unless this bad boy is scripted. Yep....ok going there. In cold weather, with the front 7 the Steelers have, are the Steelers gonna play zone or get to bortles around the edges? They've had two weeks to break down every minute if film and they got to see him do nothing but run last week. On top of that, Ben looked awful against them in the regular season. Im a huge Steelers fan but when you look at this game on a neutral level, so many things point to the Steelers here. Leveon Bell is the the guy the Jags will have to stop but that won't be done with just a few guys. When those safeties come up, then what? This type game reminds me of last year when the " great unstoppable secondary" of the Giants went into Lambeau and they got blasted. Absolutely blasted. One could argue that that secondary last year was close to this jags secondary. Brown cannot be guarded by one guy; not in the slot. Bryant is a home rum threat and juju may have the biggest game of them all. Again though, can we expect 20 from the jags and bortles? Not so sure. If you are playing this by purely a spread stand point, I can see a cover by the Jags but the Steelers aren't losing this game Sunday. Sorry guys.
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:
As a game planner, what would one do against Bortles? What's the game plan? I guess for me I just can't see this guy going back into Pittsburgh and winning unless this bad boy is scripted. Yep....ok going there. In cold weather, with the front 7 the Steelers have, are the Steelers gonna play zone or get to bortles around the edges? They've had two weeks to break down every minute if film and they got to see him do nothing but run last week. On top of that, Ben looked awful against them in the regular season. Im a huge Steelers fan but when you look at this game on a neutral level, so many things point to the Steelers here. Leveon Bell is the the guy the Jags will have to stop but that won't be done with just a few guys. When those safeties come up, then what? This type game reminds me of last year when the " great unstoppable secondary" of the Giants went into Lambeau and they got blasted. Absolutely blasted. One could argue that that secondary last year was close to this jags secondary. Brown cannot be guarded by one guy; not in the slot. Bryant is a home rum threat and juju may have the biggest game of them all. Again though, can we expect 20 from the jags and bortles? Not so sure. If you are playing this by purely a spread stand point, I can see a cover by the Jags but the Steelers aren't losing this game Sunday. Sorry guys.
whatever, but stop with the Bortles praise...dude threw 3 picks vs the Niners, and looked horrible vs the 26th ranked defense in Buffalo..
He faced a horrible secondary today..
He had 21 TD's and 13 Picks all YEAR...with great field position many times from his defense..
I don't regret fading him but you go ahead keep taking him...he didn't win this game..THE STEELERS defense lost it...they're a shadow of the great ones from the last 40 years...
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whatever, but stop with the Bortles praise...dude threw 3 picks vs the Niners, and looked horrible vs the 26th ranked defense in Buffalo..
He faced a horrible secondary today..
He had 21 TD's and 13 Picks all YEAR...with great field position many times from his defense..
I don't regret fading him but you go ahead keep taking him...he didn't win this game..THE STEELERS defense lost it...they're a shadow of the great ones from the last 40 years...
Well. I can still tell you "I told you so" on the Minn/N.O. game. No way was Minnesota going to stifle Brees and the Saints offense. And the Saints defense isn't garbage.
But thanks to a pretty damn good rookie that doesn't know how to tackle (knock on him in the draft), you get the miracle cover.
Congrats!
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Well. I can still tell you "I told you so" on the Minn/N.O. game. No way was Minnesota going to stifle Brees and the Saints offense. And the Saints defense isn't garbage.
But thanks to a pretty damn good rookie that doesn't know how to tackle (knock on him in the draft), you get the miracle cover.
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