Theone you are being a moron. there is no abuse here just healthy debate. I really don't buy the being flat argument this close to the playoffs. I mean the Giants and Packers won something like 6 or 7 games in a row both seasons. They never went flat after a big win.
Atlanta has one more game to win before getting essentially 3 weeks rest. Its a huge carrot and I don't see them being flat. If anything I expect them to come out firing. I mean Seattle weren't exactly flat after their blow out win against the cards in Toronto?
your play might win but your logic makes no sense to me as a POY
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Theone you are being a moron. there is no abuse here just healthy debate. I really don't buy the being flat argument this close to the playoffs. I mean the Giants and Packers won something like 6 or 7 games in a row both seasons. They never went flat after a big win.
Atlanta has one more game to win before getting essentially 3 weeks rest. Its a huge carrot and I don't see them being flat. If anything I expect them to come out firing. I mean Seattle weren't exactly flat after their blow out win against the cards in Toronto?
your play might win but your logic makes no sense to me as a POY
LC you are not getting my point. The Lions could cover or even win. Afterall no one has blown them off the field at home. The problem I have is justifying it as a POY. This is nowhere near a POY. How can it be? Based on what trends/systems/situations? U have a team an expert in losing tight games and a team that wins tight games. A team with a terrible turn over ratio and a team with a great turnover ratio. A team that flat out quit last weekend and a another team that made a BIG statement.
I don't believe Atlanta is all that but it's sure better then Detroit thats for sure! Atlanta has more motivation, momentum right now. a POY with a 1-5 ats in the last 6 games is an awful POY (even if u hit u will sweat). U are just too stubborn to admit the words POY should never have been mentioned in this thread.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
LC you are not getting my point. The Lions could cover or even win. Afterall no one has blown them off the field at home. The problem I have is justifying it as a POY. This is nowhere near a POY. How can it be? Based on what trends/systems/situations? U have a team an expert in losing tight games and a team that wins tight games. A team with a terrible turn over ratio and a team with a great turnover ratio. A team that flat out quit last weekend and a another team that made a BIG statement.
I don't believe Atlanta is all that but it's sure better then Detroit thats for sure! Atlanta has more motivation, momentum right now. a POY with a 1-5 ats in the last 6 games is an awful POY (even if u hit u will sweat). U are just too stubborn to admit the words POY should never have been mentioned in this thread.
I respect you leaguecapper but this is a wreckless bet to me. You are basically making a 4 and 10 team who always seem to find ways to lose your poy of the year against a 12-2 team that has in the main found ways to win based on 'trends'. The whole concept of trend betting is ridiculous to me.
Falcons have a non divisional game in a dome against a injury ravaged team in a dome for a chance of home field and u think u should fade them based on some trends. I think u are about to learn a harsh lesson as this is a bad play..
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
I respect you leaguecapper but this is a wreckless bet to me. You are basically making a 4 and 10 team who always seem to find ways to lose your poy of the year against a 12-2 team that has in the main found ways to win based on 'trends'. The whole concept of trend betting is ridiculous to me.
Falcons have a non divisional game in a dome against a injury ravaged team in a dome for a chance of home field and u think u should fade them based on some trends. I think u are about to learn a harsh lesson as this is a bad play..
that's crazy. I don't care if there is a 456 - 0 trend in this game. Having a bad injury ravaged 4 and 10 team (1-5 ats last six games) poor turnover ratio as a POY against a 12-2 dome team ( good turnover ratio) playing a non divisional foe in a dome with one win away from homefield AND coming off their best performance last week is the most wreckless POY from a respected capper I have ever seen on Covers. If u mentioned low stakes standard bet I might at least understand tat but POY!!Come on LC!
Listen Detroit could cover or even win after all this is the NFL, but no one can convince me the Lions are a POY in this spot. It's Falcons or no play for me...Id never forgive myself if I took Detroit and then watch the commit turnover after turnover...Detroit as a POY in this game no matter what the trends are is lunacy..Even if it hits...
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
that's crazy. I don't care if there is a 456 - 0 trend in this game. Having a bad injury ravaged 4 and 10 team (1-5 ats last six games) poor turnover ratio as a POY against a 12-2 dome team ( good turnover ratio) playing a non divisional foe in a dome with one win away from homefield AND coming off their best performance last week is the most wreckless POY from a respected capper I have ever seen on Covers. If u mentioned low stakes standard bet I might at least understand tat but POY!!Come on LC!
Listen Detroit could cover or even win after all this is the NFL, but no one can convince me the Lions are a POY in this spot. It's Falcons or no play for me...Id never forgive myself if I took Detroit and then watch the commit turnover after turnover...Detroit as a POY in this game no matter what the trends are is lunacy..Even if it hits...
After the game his pick will either look like pure genius or complete lunacy. My guess is for the latter.
What all those trends don't take into account is time of year or mindset. Like when it is the last few weeks of regular season and your team has zero chance of going to the playoffs and your players have quit on the year. With the exception of Johnson trying to break Rice's record. This Detroit team minus 1 has given up and does not care anymore. What is left for them to play for? Nothing.
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Quote Originally Posted by DA_BOYS:
Agree completely.
After the game his pick will either look like pure genius or complete lunacy. My guess is for the latter.
What all those trends don't take into account is time of year or mindset. Like when it is the last few weeks of regular season and your team has zero chance of going to the playoffs and your players have quit on the year. With the exception of Johnson trying to break Rice's record. This Detroit team minus 1 has given up and does not care anymore. What is left for them to play for? Nothing.
System plays, trends, situational plays I couldn't care less what angle LC is coming from. Making the Lions a POY is a bad call for the reasons I mentioned above. Making a play on stuff that happened with other teams in the past I have always found to be quite ridiculous. Anything can happen in a game of football on any given day. Trends, situational plays, system plays are mainly based on coincidences IMO. No system play is a guarantee. If it were we would all be millionaires.
I'd rather back on what I see on a football field and what I have seen on a football field this season the Falcons should win this game. Therefore how can you take such a small spread against them? I am very confident at the end of this game Detroit backers will be saying what the hell was I thinking!
a POY should be on a good team with powerful football angles backing you up. It shouldn't be based on what other teams in the past did with similar records in similar situations. Every team and season is different. Thats just my opinion..
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
System plays, trends, situational plays I couldn't care less what angle LC is coming from. Making the Lions a POY is a bad call for the reasons I mentioned above. Making a play on stuff that happened with other teams in the past I have always found to be quite ridiculous. Anything can happen in a game of football on any given day. Trends, situational plays, system plays are mainly based on coincidences IMO. No system play is a guarantee. If it were we would all be millionaires.
I'd rather back on what I see on a football field and what I have seen on a football field this season the Falcons should win this game. Therefore how can you take such a small spread against them? I am very confident at the end of this game Detroit backers will be saying what the hell was I thinking!
a POY should be on a good team with powerful football angles backing you up. It shouldn't be based on what other teams in the past did with similar records in similar situations. Every team and season is different. Thats just my opinion..
LC you are not getting my point. The Lions could cover or even win. Afterall no one has blown them off the field at home. The problem I have is justifying it as a POY. This is nowhere near a POY. How can it be? Based on what trends/systems/situations? U have a team an expert in losing tight games and a team that wins tight games. A team with a terrible turn over ratio and a team with a great turnover ratio. A team that flat out quit last weekend and a another team that made a BIG statement.
I don't believe Atlanta is all that but it's sure better then Detroit thats for sure! Atlanta has more motivation, momentum right now. a POY with a 1-5 ats in the last 6 games is an awful POY (even if u hit u will sweat). U are just too stubborn to admit the words POY should never have been mentioned in this thread.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
LC you are not getting my point. The Lions could cover or even win. Afterall no one has blown them off the field at home. The problem I have is justifying it as a POY. This is nowhere near a POY. How can it be? Based on what trends/systems/situations? U have a team an expert in losing tight games and a team that wins tight games. A team with a terrible turn over ratio and a team with a great turnover ratio. A team that flat out quit last weekend and a another team that made a BIG statement.
I don't believe Atlanta is all that but it's sure better then Detroit thats for sure! Atlanta has more motivation, momentum right now. a POY with a 1-5 ats in the last 6 games is an awful POY (even if u hit u will sweat). U are just too stubborn to admit the words POY should never have been mentioned in this thread.
Great job Pendo its always good to post how right you were in another guys thread well after the games been played. I'm sure you had the Seahawks in a blowout too. I'll be looking forward to your winner write up on the Hawaii Bowl the day after Christmas.
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Great job Pendo its always good to post how right you were in another guys thread well after the games been played. I'm sure you had the Seahawks in a blowout too. I'll be looking forward to your winner write up on the Hawaii Bowl the day after Christmas.
As already mentioned its been a trend all year for both teams.
Atlanta finds ways to win
Detroit finds ways to lose. Keep in mind 3 of 4 Lions victories they where losing and came from behind in the 4th.
Also keep in mind as already mentioned. We are missing I think its 9 starters. NINE!!! of 22 YIKES!!!
We are undisciplined. Heck even our coach has cost us a game literally by himself!
Altanta NEEDS this game to get momentum going. They will use this as practice. I honestly do not see any way in hell Detroit wins. Will they get a back door possible. But dont count on it. Atlanta rolls. 31-17
Score of 31-18 is a point better which even teased with 12 pts
falls short of the mark.
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Quote Originally Posted by mrquija27:
As already mentioned its been a trend all year for both teams.
Atlanta finds ways to win
Detroit finds ways to lose. Keep in mind 3 of 4 Lions victories they where losing and came from behind in the 4th.
Also keep in mind as already mentioned. We are missing I think its 9 starters. NINE!!! of 22 YIKES!!!
We are undisciplined. Heck even our coach has cost us a game literally by himself!
Altanta NEEDS this game to get momentum going. They will use this as practice. I honestly do not see any way in hell Detroit wins. Will they get a back door possible. But dont count on it. Atlanta rolls. 31-17
Score of 31-18 is a point better which even teased with 12 pts
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