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Question sosa, whose better Brady or Payton
                                           Big Ben or Eli
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



The problem wasnt the INT, rather that the INT was allowed to score with so many penalties during the return, AND that the Pitt defense didnt allow a TD when Ben coughed it up like he did.

The Pitt defense for 3/4 of the game was why they won, although they got lit up like a christmas tree during that 4th Q..man I dont get why Wisenhunt didnt try the no-huddle earlier, ole Dick was sh!tting his pants watching the Cards mow them down on that possession.

Arizona deserved the game just as much as Pitt did, especially with that 4th quarter comeback.

I respect your comments, Wisenhunt a former offensive coordinator with Big Ben since he came into the league, practiced every day against Dick LeBeau's defense, not to mention Russ Grimm, a former OL coach for the Steelers, who should know all there is to know about LeBeau's defense, and Big Ben.

Arizona should have lit Pittsburgh's D up, but as a TEAM, they choked.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by geddy_lee:

Question sosa, whose better Brady or Payton
                                           Big Ben or Eli
  It depends how you define better. All of them have different situations. Brady has had the luxury to play for Bill Belicheck, but then again he made it work when his WR's were Troy Brown and David Patten. Big Ben played for the #1 ranked D for I believe 3/5 years....Peyton has had 2 great wr's but a shitty defense for many many years. One way I like to see who's better is by putting them in a tough situation.

If the 4 QB's you mentioned were all given a chance to play 16 games as the starting qb for the 2008-2009 DETROIT LIONS...there isnt a doubt in my mind that Peyton would have the best record, followed by TOM BRADY, followed by ELI MANNING, followed by BIG BEN. Big Ben is the beneficiary of a great system, a great team, a great defense etc.

Big Ben goes 0-16 with those Lions where PEYTON AND TOM 100% get a victory if not multiple. Eli at most gets 1.

Pittsburgh fans will say "it doesn't matter because Big Ben plays for Pitt and not DETROIT"...while that is 100% fact...It only makes me feel stronger about my "Big Ben can only flourish in PITT or another amazing team"........carry on ladies.
 
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was i dreaming or was that ben that marched them up the field to win the super bowl?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

I'll take Peyton with an eye patch over his left eye over a healthy Big Ben

I'm sure you would.  And you would lose.  And you know that.

 
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Quote from Samuel:  Peyton Manning
on his bad day is a better
QB than Ben on one of his better days. Peyton
knows more about the QB position than
Ben would learn in two lifetimes.

 

Your stupidity continues to amaze me.  I thought it

would wear off by now, but it hasn't.  Thanks for

the laughs.

And if you really believe that, you really are

not very intelligent.  But by all means keep

posting.  It's entertaining as Hell!

 
 
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Big Ben goes 0-16 with those Lions where
PEYTON AND TOM 100% get a victory if not
multiple. Eli at most gets 1.

 

  Keep 'em comin' dude!  That's great!

 

Oh by the way... go ahead and make a list of all

the great WR's Ben has had in the last five years.

Aside from Hines and Santonio (Holmes has

played only two years), there are none.  I noticed

you didn't mention that.  I'll even

save you some time... dont say Burress.  Ben

played one year with him and he had 35 catches.

Take a look at Ben's numbers...

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00.htm

You cant look at those, know something

about football, and say he's not an elite

QB.  I dont care what system he's in.

This really is futile.  I'm not going to change

your mind, but I enjoy the idiocy you

bring with your responses.   you

 
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Try to NOT make replies personal fellas, it brings down the quality and content of the site.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

  

Big Ben goes 0-16 with those Lions where PEYTON AND TOM 100% get a victory if not multiple. Eli at most gets 1.

Pittsburgh fans will say "it doesn't matter because Big Ben plays for Pitt and not DETROIT"...while that is 100% fact...It only makes me feel stronger about my "Big Ben can only flourish in PITT or another amazing team"........carry on ladies.

WOW, keep embarrasing yourself.

 

 
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I stand by what I said.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

I stand by what I said.

0-16

 
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

I stand by what I said.
LOL... Love how you keep calling BEN "average" but yet you keep comparing him to Peyton and Brady... Two QB's that may end up being the best ever.. but then you have to because if you look at Bens first five years in the NFL and the what he has accomplished (including stats) you have no one else to compare him to..... 
 
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Sosa, put down the crackpipe son.  Big Ben AVERAGE lol.  Stick to table tennis. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by JACKSPLAT:

LOL... Love how you keep calling BEN "average" but yet you keep comparing him to Peyton and Brady... Two QB's that may end up being the best ever.. but then you have to because if you look at Bens first five years in the NFL and the what he has accomplished (including stats) you have no one else to compare him to..... 
I didnt compare shit.  I was asked a question

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Question sosa, whose better Brady or Payton
                                           Big Ben or Eli'
 
and I answered it.
 
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Someone doesn't think Big Ben is the greatest of all time and the Steelers fans can't take it . Put Ben on an average team and we'll see his true colors. Until then his defense will make him look great and I will be one of the few that sees past that. Carry on.
 
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wallstreet said it best

"Ben is a game manager, he is not a great passing QB, he is big and tough to tackle, he is gritty and cocky and has many great qualities..but as a passing QB he does not have the skills of the names mentioned here, but on that team he does not NEED those skills.

It is similar to how Tomlin inherited a great team, the true sign of the quality of the individual is how they do given difficult circumstances, not inheriting the Steelers and that awesome organization."

 

WALLSTREET

 
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Another gem from wallstreet.....
 
"Ben in the beneficiary of a great team, a great defense, a great offensive line, he is average per his abilities and how he would fare on a bad team."  -Wallstreet
 
Wallstreet.....I couldn't agree more with everything except the great offensive line. It was about as average as Ben .
 
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

wallstreet said it best

"Ben is a game manager, he is not a great passing QB, he is big and tough to tackle, he is gritty and cocky and has many great qualities..but as a passing QB he does not have the skills of the names mentioned here, but on that team he does not NEED those skills.

It is similar to how Tomlin inherited a great team, the true sign of the quality of the individual is how they do given difficult circumstances, not inheriting the Steelers and that awesome organization."

 

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LOL... Thank you.. I quote your swami... "The true quality of the individual is how they do given diffiucult circumstances" Well Rainman I would call a QB  leading a SB winning game drive 80 yards away from the end zone with 2 minutes left behind a line that gave up FIFTY SACKS pretty difficult ... And clutch.. No defense there just a stone cold clutch QB THROWING the rock under the glear of the biggest spotlight in any sport.. PS.. He also did the same thing for 3 GAMES ON THE ROAD on his first SB run.. He won those 3 games on the road not the defense.. Do your homework.. Ben average ... Like the Rolling Stones were average..
 
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Blah Blah Blah.....thats what I hear when Steelers homers open their mouths. Lucky for them they probably wont see Ben on a mediocre team and wont have to realize the sad sad news that Ben is average.
 
 
YOU HOMER!! YOU JUST COMPARED BEN TO THE ROLLING STONES!!
 
 
 
GOD THIS IS ENTERTAINING.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

Blah Blah Blah.....thats what I hear when Steelers homers open their mouths. Lucky for them they probably wont see Ben on a mediocre team and wont have to realize the sad sad news that Ben is average.
 
 
YOU HOMER!! YOU JUST COMPARED BEN TO THE ROLLING STONES!!
 
 
 
GOD THIS IS ENTERTAINING.
Nothing to say about the quote you were ... did not think so.. 'Given difficult circumstances"... Wall ......  Its hard to argue with any substance when I can use your own quotes you were ... To prove you misinformed again.. keep your day job rainman..
 
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Don't waste your time with sosa.  He bashes any team that isn't the Cowgirls.  I think he's just bitter.  He obviously lacks knowledge of the game
 
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MDAAKD......I am very saddened by your remarks. I told you that the VIKINGS were a very good team but they had arguably the worst QB in the NFL, and with the worst QB in the NFL they didnt stand a CHANCE at the SUPERBOWL. Now theyve added a HUGE HUGE  upgrade and have finally given them a chance for a title. Congrats. You needed this BIG time.
 
I bash every team? ........I have no problem giving credit to Peyton or Tom Brady....why is that? Because they're actually GREAT players? silly me.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by JACKSPLAT:

Nothing to say about the quote you were ... did not think so.. 'Given difficult circumstances"... Wall ......  Its hard to argue with any substance when I can use your own quotes you were ... To prove you misinformed again.. keep your day job rainman..
Difficult circumstances were the first SB also....where Ben played like a woman. What is your point?
 
 
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Sometimes Ben plays good under difficult situations.
Sometimes Ben plays like shit under difficult situations.
 
Now tell me your point?
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