Just a few random thoughts as I try to sort out what I like in this matchup.Feel free to add your thoughts if you like
SFO is a mature team, in terms of HC tenure and having an established roster and system in place.They’ve been a contending, hard hitting team for several years, and their physical style of play may be catching up to them, in terms of injuries. I figured that they might have some difficulty this season, so I took them Under 11’ wins.
SEA is a team in transition, with a new HC, and still in the process of getting the right guys for his system.They have some really nice players, but also some weaknesses to be addressed, like OLine and linebackers.SFO has dominated this series recently, in part due to superior line play.
SEA can’t run, and can’t stop the run, ranking in the 20s in both categories.They lead the NFL in pass attempts per game, but the better teams are in the middle of the pack, like
17 KCC
18 DET
19 SFO
20 TBY
21 BAL
I consider SFO better than the Hawks, and they will probably prove that on TNF. But SEA has a punchers chance to win the game, and contend for the division title, this year or next.
Hawks RB Walker is a really nice player, but only had 5 rushes for 19 yds vs Giants. Again, it’s an O line problem, that also allowed 7 sacks of Geno Smith by the Gmen. Hawks coaches were vocal this week about giving Walker more opportunities, but Niners are tough to run against, at least for the Hawks.I think SEA will attempt to balance the running and passing attack, but not sure how it will work out.
The only play I have so far is Jordan Mason 90+ rush yds +125
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Just a few random thoughts as I try to sort out what I like in this matchup.Feel free to add your thoughts if you like
SFO is a mature team, in terms of HC tenure and having an established roster and system in place.They’ve been a contending, hard hitting team for several years, and their physical style of play may be catching up to them, in terms of injuries. I figured that they might have some difficulty this season, so I took them Under 11’ wins.
SEA is a team in transition, with a new HC, and still in the process of getting the right guys for his system.They have some really nice players, but also some weaknesses to be addressed, like OLine and linebackers.SFO has dominated this series recently, in part due to superior line play.
SEA can’t run, and can’t stop the run, ranking in the 20s in both categories.They lead the NFL in pass attempts per game, but the better teams are in the middle of the pack, like
17 KCC
18 DET
19 SFO
20 TBY
21 BAL
I consider SFO better than the Hawks, and they will probably prove that on TNF. But SEA has a punchers chance to win the game, and contend for the division title, this year or next.
Hawks RB Walker is a really nice player, but only had 5 rushes for 19 yds vs Giants. Again, it’s an O line problem, that also allowed 7 sacks of Geno Smith by the Gmen. Hawks coaches were vocal this week about giving Walker more opportunities, but Niners are tough to run against, at least for the Hawks.I think SEA will attempt to balance the running and passing attack, but not sure how it will work out.
The only play I have so far is Jordan Mason 90+ rush yds +125
Talking to myself and more concerning answering myself conversations along with random notes I have jotted down so far for this one...
- SAF missing key players right down the middle of their defense at all three levels. 21st defensively in yds per rush
- SAF averages 6th most rushing attempts per game offensively in NFL and SEA(last in rush attempts) wants to run more. Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49? Tough w/ passing game advantages both teams have leaning heavily to big plays and Over.
- SAF no actual practices with short turnaround while incorporating new safety(reportedly a rookie, *to be verified*) into secondary vs these SEA receivers. Communication, blown coverages?
- SAF FG kicker could be sorely missed with their 29th Red Zone TD% ranking, add in Shanahan's questionable decision-making making and this could get interesting on fourth downs in SEA territory
- SAF receivers mismatches against the SEA secondary more so w/ SEA injuries and SAF run game vs SEA banged up, struggling run defense.
- SEA balance, balance, balance! And they know it... "I think if we get Ken 10 more touches, 15 more touches things are going to be different." -SEA OC Ryan Grubbs after NYG loss and Walker only got five carries
- SEA can running game be effective enough against SAF banged-up, 21st ranked yards per rush allowed defense to help shaky OLine back off SAF pass rush and give time for vet QB to exploit matchup advantages SEA has downfield?
- SEA is primetime home dog off a home loss, in one of the league's loudest stadiums, playing a banged-up, hated division rival, and getting three plus the hook? Sure sounds good
- SEA new head coach MacDonald went into SAF and dominated Shanahan's offense in '23 as BAL DC, forcing five INT's from SAF(4 from Purdy) in 33-19 win. Was this the win that sealed deal on SEA HC job? Different talent level in SEA than BAL but scheme proven sound vs Shanahan offense.
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
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Talking to myself and more concerning answering myself conversations along with random notes I have jotted down so far for this one...
- SAF missing key players right down the middle of their defense at all three levels. 21st defensively in yds per rush
- SAF averages 6th most rushing attempts per game offensively in NFL and SEA(last in rush attempts) wants to run more. Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49? Tough w/ passing game advantages both teams have leaning heavily to big plays and Over.
- SAF no actual practices with short turnaround while incorporating new safety(reportedly a rookie, *to be verified*) into secondary vs these SEA receivers. Communication, blown coverages?
- SAF FG kicker could be sorely missed with their 29th Red Zone TD% ranking, add in Shanahan's questionable decision-making making and this could get interesting on fourth downs in SEA territory
- SAF receivers mismatches against the SEA secondary more so w/ SEA injuries and SAF run game vs SEA banged up, struggling run defense.
- SEA balance, balance, balance! And they know it... "I think if we get Ken 10 more touches, 15 more touches things are going to be different." -SEA OC Ryan Grubbs after NYG loss and Walker only got five carries
- SEA can running game be effective enough against SAF banged-up, 21st ranked yards per rush allowed defense to help shaky OLine back off SAF pass rush and give time for vet QB to exploit matchup advantages SEA has downfield?
- SEA is primetime home dog off a home loss, in one of the league's loudest stadiums, playing a banged-up, hated division rival, and getting three plus the hook? Sure sounds good
- SEA new head coach MacDonald went into SAF and dominated Shanahan's offense in '23 as BAL DC, forcing five INT's from SAF(4 from Purdy) in 33-19 win. Was this the win that sealed deal on SEA HC job? Different talent level in SEA than BAL but scheme proven sound vs Shanahan offense.
I'm on the other side. I like Seattle at home with their hostile crowd. The 49ers have hit the wall. People make excuses for their injuries which are part of the game. The teams that the 49ers have lost to aren't that good. This means the 49ers aren't that good. It's time for a coaching change in San Fran. Shanahan is the problem his offense is too predictable. If Shanahan was coaching the Chiefs they'll be 1-4. The Chiefs know how to win games with or without their starters.
I won't bet on the 49ers until Shanahan is out of that organization. And I grew up in the Bay, worked at Candlestick Park as a teenager. The great Bill Walsh is turning over in his grave seeing this crap going on right now.
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I'm on the other side. I like Seattle at home with their hostile crowd. The 49ers have hit the wall. People make excuses for their injuries which are part of the game. The teams that the 49ers have lost to aren't that good. This means the 49ers aren't that good. It's time for a coaching change in San Fran. Shanahan is the problem his offense is too predictable. If Shanahan was coaching the Chiefs they'll be 1-4. The Chiefs know how to win games with or without their starters.
I won't bet on the 49ers until Shanahan is out of that organization. And I grew up in the Bay, worked at Candlestick Park as a teenager. The great Bill Walsh is turning over in his grave seeing this crap going on right now.
I appreciate your thoughts. What resonated most with me is what you said about
Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49?
Signs are pointing to both teams likely having more rushing attempts in this contest. Purdy last 2 games has just 55% completions and several INTs, so SFO may cut back a bit on pass attempts. SEA coaches have repeatedly stated they aim to get K Walker more involved after only 5 rush attempts vs NYG. So I could see this as a 23-20 slobberknocker type of game.
BOL
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@TumblingDice75
I appreciate your thoughts. What resonated most with me is what you said about
Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49?
Signs are pointing to both teams likely having more rushing attempts in this contest. Purdy last 2 games has just 55% completions and several INTs, so SFO may cut back a bit on pass attempts. SEA coaches have repeatedly stated they aim to get K Walker more involved after only 5 rush attempts vs NYG. So I could see this as a 23-20 slobberknocker type of game.
You have kind of an extreme view of Shanahan…..but you are not alone lol. I do agree with you, @SEA is a tough place to play, the crowd will be amped up.
BOL.
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@TRAINOFTHOUGHT
You have kind of an extreme view of Shanahan…..but you are not alone lol. I do agree with you, @SEA is a tough place to play, the crowd will be amped up.
@TumblingDice75 I appreciate your thoughts. What resonated most with me is what you said about Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49? Signs are pointing to both teams likely having more rushing attempts in this contest. Purdy last 2 games has just 55% completions and several INTs, so SFO may cut back a bit on pass attempts. SEA coaches have repeatedly stated they aim to get K Walker more involved after only 5 rush attempts vs NYG. So I could see this as a 23-20 slobberknocker type of game. BOL
I like the UNDER as well.
Public has driven it up already. Might even get another hook before kickoff.
"Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit:
@TumblingDice75 I appreciate your thoughts. What resonated most with me is what you said about Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49? Signs are pointing to both teams likely having more rushing attempts in this contest. Purdy last 2 games has just 55% completions and several INTs, so SFO may cut back a bit on pass attempts. SEA coaches have repeatedly stated they aim to get K Walker more involved after only 5 rush attempts vs NYG. So I could see this as a 23-20 slobberknocker type of game. BOL
I like the UNDER as well.
Public has driven it up already. Might even get another hook before kickoff.
@TumblingDice75 I appreciate your thoughts. What resonated most with me is what you said about Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49? Signs are pointing to both teams likely having more rushing attempts in this contest. Purdy last 2 games has just 55% completions and several INTs, so SFO may cut back a bit on pass attempts. SEA coaches have repeatedly stated they aim to get K Walker more involved after only 5 rush attempts vs NYG. So I could see this as a 23-20 slobberknocker type of game. BOL
Agreed. I've been leaning that way more and more even though these receivers/big plays against beat-up defenses scare me with the Under but I see the script playing out very similarly to you.
Good Luck Biscuit
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit:
@TumblingDice75 I appreciate your thoughts. What resonated most with me is what you said about Clock could be running non-stop, Under at 49? Signs are pointing to both teams likely having more rushing attempts in this contest. Purdy last 2 games has just 55% completions and several INTs, so SFO may cut back a bit on pass attempts. SEA coaches have repeatedly stated they aim to get K Walker more involved after only 5 rush attempts vs NYG. So I could see this as a 23-20 slobberknocker type of game. BOL
Agreed. I've been leaning that way more and more even though these receivers/big plays against beat-up defenses scare me with the Under but I see the script playing out very similarly to you.
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