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lmb4321

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 1:54 AM ET #51

Hey Summa.....On the Jets already......I think you are going to go on a nice roll....keep the Veltins cold.....

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 2:34 AM ET #52

Be sure to check the Marshall prop..ive bet on him 3 times and cashed all.Last week it was 77.5 yds i think and he racked up 111.
I might bet on him to score as well

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 4:43 AM ET #53

Any other leans or plays for Wk 7, Heff?

I'm liking Houston +4, but Miami scares me...

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 5:55 AM ET #54

Quote Originally Posted by Dogjimbo:

Any other leans or plays for Wk 7, Heff?

I'm liking Houston +4, but Miami scares me...

I like the new momentum shift after they fired their coach. I knew the fishes were going to score points, but wasn't sure if their defense was going to give up another 20+ points. But they didn't, limited them to 10, but its the titans tho ...

Hopefully they carry this into sunday vs houston

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 6:12 AM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by Dogjimbo:

Any other leans or plays for Wk 7, Heff?

I'm liking Houston +4, but Miami scares me...

Dog

Ravens, Dolphins, Cowboys, Falcons, Panthers

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Dogjimbo

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 7:02 AM ET #56

Thanks Heff,

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globalsides201

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 8:44 AM ET #57

Hey Summa,

Been enjoying your picks from afar, as a Jet fan I liked your writeup.

I also disagree regarding Fitzy, those 3 picks weren't his fault, but if you've watched him all season he's wildly inaccurate pushing the ball downfield often attempting to throw it into double or even triple coverage. He's had multiple throws where it was an easy pick for a defender yet they didn't pick it off so it works both ways. If you look at the Miami game in NFL Rewind his throws are wildly all over the place. Even the deep ball he threw to Marshall was underthrown (on the very first drive), but Marshall made a good play. Marshall bailed him out twice against the skins, one on the slant pass that he one-handed which was too far out in front of him and second on the deep throw that he grossly underthrew (Marshall had to come back and essentially catch the ball off the ground, but it worked out in the end cause he scored).

The efficiency that I like with the offense is their performance in the red zone. Fitzy has 8 passing TDs 0 INTs and 1 Rushing TD in the red zone. We've also scored on 18 out of 19 red zone possessions.

Buster Skrine is the X-Factor for me in this game. He's huge in the slot and would help mitigate the damage the Pats offense can do. I don't mind McDougle getting more experience, but not against the Pats. I hope Buster is a go. Everyone talks about how hard it is to gameplan against the Pats. I'd argue, with Ivory in the backfield and Marshall and Decker outside, coupled with our OL, we are a tough balanced attack to defend. Honestly, I would have liked to see what Geno could do in this offense. Then maybe we could actually take advantage of Devin Smith's deep threat ability down the field as well, another added dimension to our offense.

All being said, the fact that this is a 9 point line I think is really a slap in the face by Vegas. We've heard all season about the Jets defense, but I think this line is a testament to the shitty opposition the Jets have played thus far. This is a real test, and although I think we have a real shot, Vegas seems to think otherwise. Best of luck and continued success.

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Hey Summa,

Been enjoying your picks from afar, as a Jet fan I liked your writeup.

I also disagree regarding Fitzy, those 3 picks weren't his fault, but if you've watched him all season he's wildly inaccurate pushing the ball downfield often attempting to throw it into double or even triple coverage. He's had multiple throws where it was an easy pick for a defender yet they didn't pick it off so it works both ways. If you look at the Miami game in NFL Rewind his throws are wildly all over the place. Even the deep ball he threw to Marshall was underthrown (on the very first drive), but Marshall made a good play. Marshall bailed him out twice against the skins, one on the slant pass that he one-handed which was too far out in front of him and second on the deep throw that he grossly underthrew (Marshall had to come back and essentially catch the ball off the ground, but it worked out in the end cause he scored).

The efficiency that I like with the offense is their performance in the red zone. Fitzy has 8 passing TDs 0 INTs and 1 Rushing TD in the red zone. We've also scored on 18 out of 19 red zone possessions.

Buster Skrine is the X-Factor for me in this game. He's huge in the slot and would help mitigate the damage the Pats offense can do. I don't mind McDougle getting more experience, but not against the Pats. I hope Buster is a go. Everyone talks about how hard it is to gameplan against the Pats. I'd argue, with Ivory in the backfield and Marshall and Decker outside, coupled with our OL, we are a tough balanced attack to defend. Honestly, I would have liked to see what Geno could do in this offense. Then maybe we could actually take advantage of Devin Smith's deep threat ability down the field as well, another added dimension to our offense.

All being said, the fact that this is a 9 point line I think is really a slap in the face by Vegas. We've heard all season about the Jets defense, but I think this line is a testament to the shitty opposition the Jets have played thus far. This is a real test, and although I think we have a real shot, Vegas seems to think otherwise. Best of luck and continued success.

globalsides201

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 8:44 AM ET #58

Hey Summa,

Been enjoying your picks from afar, as a Jet fan I liked your writeup.

I also disagree regarding Fitzy, those 3 picks weren't his fault, but if you've watched him all season he's wildly inaccurate pushing the ball downfield often attempting to throw it into double or even triple coverage. He's had multiple throws where it was an easy pick for a defender yet they didn't pick it off so it works both ways. If you look at the Miami game in NFL Rewind his throws are wildly all over the place. Even the deep ball he threw to Marshall was underthrown (on the very first drive), but Marshall made a good play. Marshall bailed him out twice against the skins, one on the slant pass that he one-handed which was too far out in front of him and second on the deep throw that he grossly underthrew (Marshall had to come back and essentially catch the ball off the ground, but it worked out in the end cause he scored).

The efficiency that I like with the offense is their performance in the red zone. Fitzy has 8 passing TDs 0 INTs and 1 Rushing TD in the red zone. We've also scored on 18 out of 19 red zone possessions.

Buster Skrine is the X-Factor for me in this game. He's huge in the slot and would help mitigate the damage the Pats offense can do. I don't mind McDougle getting more experience, but not against the Pats. I hope Buster is a go. Everyone talks about how hard it is to gameplan against the Pats. I'd argue, with Ivory in the backfield and Marshall and Decker outside, coupled with our OL, we are a tough balanced attack to defend. Honestly, I would have liked to see what Geno could do in this offense. Then maybe we could actually take advantage of Devin Smith's deep threat ability down the field as well, another added dimension to our offense.

All being said, the fact that this is a 9 point line I think is really a slap in the face by Vegas. We've heard all season about the Jets defense, but I think this line is a testament to the shitty opposition the Jets have played thus far. This is a real test, and although I think we have a real shot, Vegas seems to think otherwise. Best of luck and continued success.

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Hey Summa,

Been enjoying your picks from afar, as a Jet fan I liked your writeup.

I also disagree regarding Fitzy, those 3 picks weren't his fault, but if you've watched him all season he's wildly inaccurate pushing the ball downfield often attempting to throw it into double or even triple coverage. He's had multiple throws where it was an easy pick for a defender yet they didn't pick it off so it works both ways. If you look at the Miami game in NFL Rewind his throws are wildly all over the place. Even the deep ball he threw to Marshall was underthrown (on the very first drive), but Marshall made a good play. Marshall bailed him out twice against the skins, one on the slant pass that he one-handed which was too far out in front of him and second on the deep throw that he grossly underthrew (Marshall had to come back and essentially catch the ball off the ground, but it worked out in the end cause he scored).

The efficiency that I like with the offense is their performance in the red zone. Fitzy has 8 passing TDs 0 INTs and 1 Rushing TD in the red zone. We've also scored on 18 out of 19 red zone possessions.

Buster Skrine is the X-Factor for me in this game. He's huge in the slot and would help mitigate the damage the Pats offense can do. I don't mind McDougle getting more experience, but not against the Pats. I hope Buster is a go. Everyone talks about how hard it is to gameplan against the Pats. I'd argue, with Ivory in the backfield and Marshall and Decker outside, coupled with our OL, we are a tough balanced attack to defend. Honestly, I would have liked to see what Geno could do in this offense. Then maybe we could actually take advantage of Devin Smith's deep threat ability down the field as well, another added dimension to our offense.

All being said, the fact that this is a 9 point line I think is really a slap in the face by Vegas. We've heard all season about the Jets defense, but I think this line is a testament to the shitty opposition the Jets have played thus far. This is a real test, and although I think we have a real shot, Vegas seems to think otherwise. Best of luck and continued success.

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 8:57 AM ET #59

informative, thanks for sharing concept

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suuma

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 9:02 AM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by globalsides201:

Hey Summa,

Been enjoying your picks from afar, as a Jet fan I liked your writeup.

I also disagree regarding Fitzy, those 3 picks weren't his fault, but if you've watched him all season he's wildly inaccurate pushing the ball downfield often attempting to throw it into double or even triple coverage. He's had multiple throws where it was an easy pick for a defender yet they didn't pick it off so it works both ways. If you look at the Miami game in NFL Rewind his throws are wildly all over the place. Even the deep ball he threw to Marshall was underthrown (on the very first drive), but Marshall made a good play. Marshall bailed him out twice against the skins, one on the slant pass that he one-handed which was too far out in front of him and second on the deep throw that he grossly underthrew (Marshall had to come back and essentially catch the ball off the ground, but it worked out in the end cause he scored).

The efficiency that I like with the offense is their performance in the red zone. Fitzy has 8 passing TDs 0 INTs and 1 Rushing TD in the red zone. We've also scored on 18 out of 19 red zone possessions.

Buster Skrine is the X-Factor for me in this game. He's huge in the slot and would help mitigate the damage the Pats offense can do. I don't mind McDougle getting more experience, but not against the Pats. I hope Buster is a go. Everyone talks about how hard it is to gameplan against the Pats. I'd argue, with Ivory in the backfield and Marshall and Decker outside, coupled with our OL, we are a tough balanced attack to defend. Honestly, I would have liked to see what Geno could do in this offense. Then maybe we could actually take advantage of Devin Smith's deep threat ability down the field as well, another added dimension to our offense.

All being said, the fact that this is a 9 point line I think is really a slap in the face by Vegas. We've heard all season about the Jets defense, but I think this line is a testament to the shitty opposition the Jets have played thus far. This is a real test, and although I think we have a real shot, Vegas seems to think otherwise. Best of luck and continued success.

Couldn't agree more. Most people don't realize how important Buster Skrine is to this defense.

The Jets have converted 73.68% of their RZ attempts into TDs, that's good for third in the league. The Patriots defense ranks #28 in that category. The Jets defense is #1 in third down DVOA and the Patriots have just been average on third down against minor competition. This is going to be a tough situation for the Patriots.

Did you know that Darrelle Revis has given up only 10 yards in coverage since week 2? He is playing at an even higher level than last season.

I agree on Ryan Fitzpatrick making inaccurate throws and sometimes poor decisions, especially when he is stubborn and forces throws into double coverage instead of taking the dump-off. But IMO the play by the offensive line and the play-calling by Chan Gailey is incredible and if RF trys to limit those forced throws, this offense would be even better.

Skrine was practicing limited in a redshirt yesterday, Marcus Williams is 50/50 according to Todd Bowles. If Skrine is ready to go, the Jets have a good shot at winning straight up. Today's practice gonna be interesting!

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Quote Originally Posted by globalsides201:

Hey Summa,

Been enjoying your picks from afar, as a Jet fan I liked your writeup.

I also disagree regarding Fitzy, those 3 picks weren't his fault, but if you've watched him all season he's wildly inaccurate pushing the ball downfield often attempting to throw it into double or even triple coverage. He's had multiple throws where it was an easy pick for a defender yet they didn't pick it off so it works both ways. If you look at the Miami game in NFL Rewind his throws are wildly all over the place. Even the deep ball he threw to Marshall was underthrown (on the very first drive), but Marshall made a good play. Marshall bailed him out twice against the skins, one on the slant pass that he one-handed which was too far out in front of him and second on the deep throw that he grossly underthrew (Marshall had to come back and essentially catch the ball off the ground, but it worked out in the end cause he scored).

The efficiency that I like with the offense is their performance in the red zone. Fitzy has 8 passing TDs 0 INTs and 1 Rushing TD in the red zone. We've also scored on 18 out of 19 red zone possessions.

Buster Skrine is the X-Factor for me in this game. He's huge in the slot and would help mitigate the damage the Pats offense can do. I don't mind McDougle getting more experience, but not against the Pats. I hope Buster is a go. Everyone talks about how hard it is to gameplan against the Pats. I'd argue, with Ivory in the backfield and Marshall and Decker outside, coupled with our OL, we are a tough balanced attack to defend. Honestly, I would have liked to see what Geno could do in this offense. Then maybe we could actually take advantage of Devin Smith's deep threat ability down the field as well, another added dimension to our offense.

All being said, the fact that this is a 9 point line I think is really a slap in the face by Vegas. We've heard all season about the Jets defense, but I think this line is a testament to the shitty opposition the Jets have played thus far. This is a real test, and although I think we have a real shot, Vegas seems to think otherwise. Best of luck and continued success.

Couldn't agree more. Most people don't realize how important Buster Skrine is to this defense.

The Jets have converted 73.68% of their RZ attempts into TDs, that's good for third in the league. The Patriots defense ranks #28 in that category. The Jets defense is #1 in third down DVOA and the Patriots have just been average on third down against minor competition. This is going to be a tough situation for the Patriots.

Did you know that Darrelle Revis has given up only 10 yards in coverage since week 2? He is playing at an even higher level than last season.

I agree on Ryan Fitzpatrick making inaccurate throws and sometimes poor decisions, especially when he is stubborn and forces throws into double coverage instead of taking the dump-off. But IMO the play by the offensive line and the play-calling by Chan Gailey is incredible and if RF trys to limit those forced throws, this offense would be even better.

Skrine was practicing limited in a redshirt yesterday, Marcus Williams is 50/50 according to Todd Bowles. If Skrine is ready to go, the Jets have a good shot at winning straight up. Today's practice gonna be interesting!

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 9:54 AM ET #61

I am leaning Rams, Jets (-9.5, would prefer -10), Arizona and PIT

Ivory is the #2 RB by PFF, he will run on NE. I think Arizona wins easily, Ravens are bad and Arizona should not have lost against PIT.

I was thinking of ATL if Mariota is out but I heard enough people say that it is a bad spot for ATL. Still ATL is the better team no question. Julio has not been that healthy, he should be better and Freeman is going to work. ATL has the #1 OL, I think ATL covers more often than not especially if Marcus is out.

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 10:08 AM ET #62

Sumatra do you or would you have a 8

Parlay pick no over or under......#yupyup

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suuma

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 10:22 AM ET #63

Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

I am leaning Rams, Jets (-9.5, would prefer -10), Arizona and PIT

Ivory is the #2 RB by PFF, he will run on NE. I think Arizona wins easily, Ravens are bad and Arizona should not have lost against PIT.

I was thinking of ATL if Mariota is out but I heard enough people say that it is a bad spot for ATL. Still ATL is the better team no question. Julio has not been that healthy, he should be better and Freeman is going to work. ATL has the #1 OL, I think ATL covers more often than not especially if Marcus is out.

Why is everyone so high on Arizona? I don't believe the Ravens are bad. They just had bad luck in terms of injuries. I had them as a top-5 team before the season. They have been banged up throughout the season and played a tough schedule - @Denver, @Oakland in a bad spot, vs. Bengals, @Steelers, vs. Browns and @SF.

This Cardinals team is sooo overrated, it's not even funny. Before the Steelers game, they played the #31 schedule win-percentage-wise and when I remember right, the #30 schedule efficiency-wise. Their secondary is overrated, they benefit from their blitzes which only works against average to bad offensive lines who can't pick them up. Ravens have a top-5 offensive line, Steve Smith is back to full practice as well as Justin Forsett. Smith dropped two TD passes last week against SF and Forsett obviously wasn't 100%.

On defense they get some players back like Chris Canty and Ladarius Webb. The latter backup Shareece Wright was signed two weeks ago and got terribly beaten on two TD passes at San Francisco. Webb isn't a good CB, but definitely two leagues ahead of what Shareece Wright has shown. Their front seven isn't at full strength but getting Chris Canty is a solid for the Ravens, as he is not only a solid pass rusher, but their rotation is also deeper now.

Before the season started the Ravens would have been the clear favorites in this game for me and now I am going to get them at +9 straight and +16 in teasers because Pinnacle set the base line at 10. I am going to monitor their practice today, but I really like the Ravens on MNF.

Would gladly hear some opinions!

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Quote Originally Posted by NFLCap:

I am leaning Rams, Jets (-9.5, would prefer -10), Arizona and PIT

Ivory is the #2 RB by PFF, he will run on NE. I think Arizona wins easily, Ravens are bad and Arizona should not have lost against PIT.

I was thinking of ATL if Mariota is out but I heard enough people say that it is a bad spot for ATL. Still ATL is the better team no question. Julio has not been that healthy, he should be better and Freeman is going to work. ATL has the #1 OL, I think ATL covers more often than not especially if Marcus is out.

Why is everyone so high on Arizona? I don't believe the Ravens are bad. They just had bad luck in terms of injuries. I had them as a top-5 team before the season. They have been banged up throughout the season and played a tough schedule - @Denver, @Oakland in a bad spot, vs. Bengals, @Steelers, vs. Browns and @SF.

This Cardinals team is sooo overrated, it's not even funny. Before the Steelers game, they played the #31 schedule win-percentage-wise and when I remember right, the #30 schedule efficiency-wise. Their secondary is overrated, they benefit from their blitzes which only works against average to bad offensive lines who can't pick them up. Ravens have a top-5 offensive line, Steve Smith is back to full practice as well as Justin Forsett. Smith dropped two TD passes last week against SF and Forsett obviously wasn't 100%.

On defense they get some players back like Chris Canty and Ladarius Webb. The latter backup Shareece Wright was signed two weeks ago and got terribly beaten on two TD passes at San Francisco. Webb isn't a good CB, but definitely two leagues ahead of what Shareece Wright has shown. Their front seven isn't at full strength but getting Chris Canty is a solid for the Ravens, as he is not only a solid pass rusher, but their rotation is also deeper now.

Before the season started the Ravens would have been the clear favorites in this game for me and now I am going to get them at +9 straight and +16 in teasers because Pinnacle set the base line at 10. I am going to monitor their practice today, but I really like the Ravens on MNF.

Would gladly hear some opinions!

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 10:22 AM ET #64

Hey Summa great work! I've always enjoyed reading your stuff! How far up would you take the Rams? It's currently at -6 at my book. Thanks a lot!

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suuma

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 10:22 AM ET #65

Quote Originally Posted by DRE-DAY:

Sumatra do you or would you have a 8

Parlay pick no over or under......#yupyup

Don't really understand the question buddy ?!

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 10:47 AM ET #66

Hey suuma.

Any concern about the falcons playing their first game on grass? I haven't checked their splits yet.

Titans lost their starting center for the yr, and falcons starting center didn't play last week.

Falcons extra rest coming off a thur night game.

Kinda feel like tenn is a live dog here. I probably won't have a play on the game, just interested.

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 11:26 AM ET #67

Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

Hey suuma.

Any concern about the falcons playing their first game on grass? I haven't checked their splits yet.

Titans lost their starting center for the yr, and falcons starting center didn't play last week.

Falcons extra rest coming off a thur night game.

Kinda feel like tenn is a live dog here. I probably won't have a play on the game, just interested.

Falcons starting center is back as well as Justin Durant and Julio Jones. The Titans can't defend the deep ball and won't get pressure on Matt Ryan because his OL is playing superior. On the other side I believe neither Marcus Mariota nor Zach Mettenburger can keep the pace with the Falcons behind that OL.

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 11:27 AM ET #68

Quote Originally Posted by AddictedNinja:

Hey Summa great work! I've always enjoyed reading your stuff! How far up would you take the Rams? It's currently at -6 at my book. Thanks a lot!

Thanks bud! I believe they are capable of winning by 2 TDs on Sunday, so it definitely has value at -6

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I agree on the Cardinals being overrated. We were both very high on the Ravens this season, but their injuries in the secondary have been huge. Their pass rush has also been weak without Terrell Suggs. Tell you the truth, I've been baffled so far.

At some point I will pick back up on the Ravens, believing that they should be able to get it together, but I believe one of their biggest problems is Marc Trestman. Coaching is so huge, it's a make or break position. I was confident in Trestman before the season, but having seen the Offense he is fielding, I'm no longer in on it.

Some teams I love this week: San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Detroit, and Carolina.

Of course I'll probably be in on Monday, but I'm still contemplating it. I agree that the Cards are overrated, but the matchup is not great for the Ravens. Their secondary is having to turn to Sharice Wright, it hasn't been pretty. It's screaming stay away for me, because the Ravens have had a bunch of West Coast trips this year, does this mean that they quit at 1-5 or are they just getting used to it by now?

Opened in Denver, then in Oakland, then at home against the undefeated Bengals, then in Pittsburgh, then at home against the Browns, then in San Fran. That's 3 out of 6 on the West Coast, and the other 3 against divisional rivals. Tough start. Now they have to go TO Arizona? Sucks.

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 11:54 AM ET #70

Hey suuma I just seen your write up and I respect it alot but it's one thing I never seen . Tom Brady kills top rank defenses I don't care if Revis is over there and skrine plays or not. The fact that we have the best player on the planet playing on fire and determine is something that can't be measured . Thts Tom Brady by the way. The fact that we have the best coach and offensive coordinator in the game and the smartest may I add that can't be ignored. Not only that it's not hard to game plan for jets offense our defense is good enough to hold them to 2tds because pats will score at least 4 tds and 2 fg . The offense is prolific . I see you running alot of numbers and stuff but all tht is thrown out when it comes brady molesting every top def in the league. Thanks love to hear your opinion

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 12:07 PM ET #71

Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:

I agree on the Cardinals being overrated. We were both very high on the Ravens this season, but their injuries in the secondary have been huge. Their pass rush has also been weak without Terrell Suggs. Tell you the truth, I've been baffled so far.

At some point I will pick back up on the Ravens, believing that they should be able to get it together, but I believe one of their biggest problems is Marc Trestman. Coaching is so huge, it's a make or break position. I was confident in Trestman before the season, but having seen the Offense he is fielding, I'm no longer in on it.

Some teams I love this week: San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Detroit, and Carolina.

Of course I'll probably be in on Monday, but I'm still contemplating it. I agree that the Cards are overrated, but the matchup is not great for the Ravens. Their secondary is having to turn to Sharice Wright, it hasn't been pretty. It's screaming stay away for me, because the Ravens have had a bunch of West Coast trips this year, does this mean that they quit at 1-5 or are they just getting used to it by now?

Opened in Denver, then in Oakland, then at home against the undefeated Bengals, then in Pittsburgh, then at home against the Browns, then in San Fran. That's 3 out of 6 on the West Coast, and the other 3 against divisional rivals. Tough start. Now they have to go TO Arizona? Sucks.

Great to hear your thoughts. You need to chime in more often, porc. I will monitor those Ravens injuries closely and if I don't like the report, I won't play them.

I am also leaning SD, will wait to see their injury report after today's practice. If Allen is ready to go and Rivers gets at least two OL back, the Raiders defense will be overmatched after the loss of Tucker.

Chip Kelly's offenses can't beat good physical and covering defenses and that's what the Panthers are. Stanford, Seahawks, Niners - the Eagles can't score. Add to that the inability of Sam Bradford and the recent WR injury report and the Panthers offense shouldn't need to do that much.

Eli Manning and his OL will be overpowered by the Dallas' front seven and Matt Cassel was probably never in a situation like this. If he doesn't perform behind this OL against a weak secondary, I don't know better.

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Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:

I agree on the Cardinals being overrated. We were both very high on the Ravens this season, but their injuries in the secondary have been huge. Their pass rush has also been weak without Terrell Suggs. Tell you the truth, I've been baffled so far.

At some point I will pick back up on the Ravens, believing that they should be able to get it together, but I believe one of their biggest problems is Marc Trestman. Coaching is so huge, it's a make or break position. I was confident in Trestman before the season, but having seen the Offense he is fielding, I'm no longer in on it.

Some teams I love this week: San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Detroit, and Carolina.

Of course I'll probably be in on Monday, but I'm still contemplating it. I agree that the Cards are overrated, but the matchup is not great for the Ravens. Their secondary is having to turn to Sharice Wright, it hasn't been pretty. It's screaming stay away for me, because the Ravens have had a bunch of West Coast trips this year, does this mean that they quit at 1-5 or are they just getting used to it by now?

Opened in Denver, then in Oakland, then at home against the undefeated Bengals, then in Pittsburgh, then at home against the Browns, then in San Fran. That's 3 out of 6 on the West Coast, and the other 3 against divisional rivals. Tough start. Now they have to go TO Arizona? Sucks.

Great to hear your thoughts. You need to chime in more often, porc. I will monitor those Ravens injuries closely and if I don't like the report, I won't play them.

I am also leaning SD, will wait to see their injury report after today's practice. If Allen is ready to go and Rivers gets at least two OL back, the Raiders defense will be overmatched after the loss of Tucker.

Chip Kelly's offenses can't beat good physical and covering defenses and that's what the Panthers are. Stanford, Seahawks, Niners - the Eagles can't score. Add to that the inability of Sam Bradford and the recent WR injury report and the Panthers offense shouldn't need to do that much.

Eli Manning and his OL will be overpowered by the Dallas' front seven and Matt Cassel was probably never in a situation like this. If he doesn't perform behind this OL against a weak secondary, I don't know better.

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 12:32 PM ET #72

Summa check it out:

https://twitter.com/DarrylSlater/status/657570428857286656

This is a good sign!

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Ducati

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Posts: 3302

Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 12:49 PM ET #73

Not saying you're wrong but if the Pats had cupcake schedule so far and in your opinion the most overrated, what are the Jets? They've yet to beat a winning team. Browns, Colts, Eagles, Phins and Skins.

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playboy37

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Posts: 932

Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 1:31 PM ET #74

Ducati I totally agree. Pats are winning games where no where in the game you feel like the other team can win. Yes colts played tough but it wasn't nowhere in the game I felt like colts going to win hell for tht matter cover the spread. Even though they did it pretty much you take away the pick 6 they don't so tht being said it's either pats or no bet

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NFLCap

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Joined: Sep, 2015

Posts: 124

Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 2:26 PM ET #75

KC next week is London, good trend. PIT

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