Not saying you are wrong. I can be wrong as well. But I hardly find any matchup analysis by Carolina bettors. I just read "Carolina is a better team". The 2009 Colts were a better team, the 2007 Pats were a better team, the 2012 Niners were a better team, the 2011 Pats were a better team, and so on. Last year the Seahawks barely won against the Packers, 2011 the Giants barely won against SF, 2009 the Saints barely won againt MIN. All teams would have covered 6.
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:
Not saying you are wrong. I can be wrong as well. But I hardly find any matchup analysis by Carolina bettors. I just read "Carolina is a better team". The 2009 Colts were a better team, the 2007 Pats were a better team, the 2012 Niners were a better team, the 2011 Pats were a better team, and so on. Last year the Seahawks barely won against the Packers, 2011 the Giants barely won against SF, 2009 the Saints barely won againt MIN. All teams would have covered 6.
Not saying you are wrong. I can be wrong as well. But I hardly find any matchup analysis by Carolina bettors. I just read "Carolina is a better team". The 2009 Colts were a better team, the 2007 Pats were a better team, the 2012 Niners were a better team, the 2011 Pats were a better team, and so on. Last year the Seahawks barely won against the Packers, 2011 the Giants barely won against SF, 2009 the Saints barely won againt MIN. All teams would have covered 6.
Here is how those teams you thought were better played throughout the playoffs before the SB in the single most important stat with the highest correlation to victory and the best predictive value, QBPR differential.
2007
Giants 41.85, Giants easily better
Pats 20.45
2009 Saints 45.52, Saints easily better
Colts 31.96
2011 Giants 33.04, Giants better
Pats 23.53
2012
Ravens
9ers
It's the same story Ravens easily better, I don't have exact numbers before SB but I do know Ravens easily better.
Here are numbers after SB
Ravens 28.6
9ers 13.6
In past 10 years the better team is 8-2 SU and 9-1 ATS in SB.
This season
Carolina 45.7
Denver 6.9
once again you'll find one team easily better..............
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:
Not saying you are wrong. I can be wrong as well. But I hardly find any matchup analysis by Carolina bettors. I just read "Carolina is a better team". The 2009 Colts were a better team, the 2007 Pats were a better team, the 2012 Niners were a better team, the 2011 Pats were a better team, and so on. Last year the Seahawks barely won against the Packers, 2011 the Giants barely won against SF, 2009 the Saints barely won againt MIN. All teams would have covered 6.
Here is how those teams you thought were better played throughout the playoffs before the SB in the single most important stat with the highest correlation to victory and the best predictive value, QBPR differential.
2007
Giants 41.85, Giants easily better
Pats 20.45
2009 Saints 45.52, Saints easily better
Colts 31.96
2011 Giants 33.04, Giants better
Pats 23.53
2012
Ravens
9ers
It's the same story Ravens easily better, I don't have exact numbers before SB but I do know Ravens easily better.
Here are numbers after SB
Ravens 28.6
9ers 13.6
In past 10 years the better team is 8-2 SU and 9-1 ATS in SB.
This season
Carolina 45.7
Denver 6.9
once again you'll find one team easily better..............
And remember, Carolina played by far the better teams in the stat, Seahawks ranked no.1, Zona 4
Pats ranked no.6 and Pitt 15th
Both Carolina opps better then Denvers best opp and no contest how Carolina played those better opps.
If anyone still thinks strength of schedule is still an issue , Panthers have put that to rest in dominate fashion.
They out-played the no.1 and no. 4 ranked teams by a larger amount then any of the teams you mentioned as being better by a long shot. They more than double everyone of the teams you mention as better except 2009 Colts, that's domination and they did it against far superior opps then any of those teams you mentioned as better played in playoffs.
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And remember, Carolina played by far the better teams in the stat, Seahawks ranked no.1, Zona 4
Pats ranked no.6 and Pitt 15th
Both Carolina opps better then Denvers best opp and no contest how Carolina played those better opps.
If anyone still thinks strength of schedule is still an issue , Panthers have put that to rest in dominate fashion.
They out-played the no.1 and no. 4 ranked teams by a larger amount then any of the teams you mentioned as being better by a long shot. They more than double everyone of the teams you mention as better except 2009 Colts, that's domination and they did it against far superior opps then any of those teams you mentioned as better played in playoffs.
Think about this , Denver played it's last two regular season games at home had a bye week never had to travel well rested they have a big home field advantage with the altitude also,
Despite having all this going for them it took a lucky swipe a football creating a fumble or they lose to Pitt .
Now they face the Patriots who are 0-4 SU in post season games in Denver, and 9 -24 SU last 33 overall in Denver , so big home field advantage over the Patriots in this series
With all these advantages the only reason Denver won a 20-18 game vs the Patriots was Brady was a STIFF as usual
Brady was solely responsible for Denver's 10 points on two Stinky INT'S in a 2 point loss , not to mention all the points he left on the field either missing wide open receivers or throwing to the wrong spot
Denver Stinks Arizona, Seattle ,Green Bay would all beat Denver and the Patriots should have if they didn't have a Stiff Choke Artist Fraud for a QB .
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Think about this , Denver played it's last two regular season games at home had a bye week never had to travel well rested they have a big home field advantage with the altitude also,
Despite having all this going for them it took a lucky swipe a football creating a fumble or they lose to Pitt .
Now they face the Patriots who are 0-4 SU in post season games in Denver, and 9 -24 SU last 33 overall in Denver , so big home field advantage over the Patriots in this series
With all these advantages the only reason Denver won a 20-18 game vs the Patriots was Brady was a STIFF as usual
Brady was solely responsible for Denver's 10 points on two Stinky INT'S in a 2 point loss , not to mention all the points he left on the field either missing wide open receivers or throwing to the wrong spot
Denver Stinks Arizona, Seattle ,Green Bay would all beat Denver and the Patriots should have if they didn't have a Stiff Choke Artist Fraud for a QB .
I want everyone to listen to this , finally someone in the Media has enough balls and football knowledge to tell it like it is
Ill set this up for you Tim Hasslebeck was a paid guess he appeared on this Boston Radio station every Monday after a Patriots game they call it Patriots Monday
And Brady himself calls in a segment called Monday Morning with the QB , it's really boring and he says nothing of any interest and the host kiss his A S S .
So Hasslebeck coming on and telling the Brady hero worshipers what actually happened in the game is refreshing it's about time
After listen to this do you still think Denver defense is great or just lucky with a home field advantage and playing against a QB who folds in tough games ?
keep in mind Hasslebeck is a paid guess on a Patriots Boston radio station and former players especially QB'S don't come out and call other QB'S Choke Artist , but he basically does lol
I want everyone to listen to this , finally someone in the Media has enough balls and football knowledge to tell it like it is
Ill set this up for you Tim Hasslebeck was a paid guess he appeared on this Boston Radio station every Monday after a Patriots game they call it Patriots Monday
And Brady himself calls in a segment called Monday Morning with the QB , it's really boring and he says nothing of any interest and the host kiss his A S S .
So Hasslebeck coming on and telling the Brady hero worshipers what actually happened in the game is refreshing it's about time
After listen to this do you still think Denver defense is great or just lucky with a home field advantage and playing against a QB who folds in tough games ?
keep in mind Hasslebeck is a paid guess on a Patriots Boston radio station and former players especially QB'S don't come out and call other QB'S Choke Artist , but he basically does lol
Claw I will come back to you and do research about QBPR during off-season. Looks like great stuff for me. How exactly is it calculated?
Mysticrich it's Denver vs Carolina. Go hate about Brady in your own thread and drink a beer on his failure at Denver. Nobody listens to your crap.
No a lot of people will be interested in listening to a former player with football knowledge that's knows something about the game and not afraid to say it
A joker like you who really knows nothing but try's to sound like he does is laughable and you stink as a handicapper it's a fact you proven it
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:
Claw I will come back to you and do research about QBPR during off-season. Looks like great stuff for me. How exactly is it calculated?
Mysticrich it's Denver vs Carolina. Go hate about Brady in your own thread and drink a beer on his failure at Denver. Nobody listens to your crap.
No a lot of people will be interested in listening to a former player with football knowledge that's knows something about the game and not afraid to say it
A joker like you who really knows nothing but try's to sound like he does is laughable and you stink as a handicapper it's a fact you proven it
So Seattle didn't have good edge rushers? Cam isn't a statue, they have designed runs for him. They do have the 6th best defense but is there as small a gap between the 2 offenses? Arizona had a much better offense but with a similar statue at QB against a team that can apply pressure with 4. You're going to need to score somehow.. Carolina can cover here scoring 17. And they create more turnovers than anyone.
Now convince me
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So Seattle didn't have good edge rushers? Cam isn't a statue, they have designed runs for him. They do have the 6th best defense but is there as small a gap between the 2 offenses? Arizona had a much better offense but with a similar statue at QB against a team that can apply pressure with 4. You're going to need to score somehow.. Carolina can cover here scoring 17. And they create more turnovers than anyone.
FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, BUT FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ANY FOOL WHOSE CHASIN DENVER. SMARTEN UP GET BACK AT DENVER FER LETTIN YA DOWN AGIN SEATTLE. YER LOOKIN A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH. CAROLINA WILL KILL DENVER. EMBARRASSING TO SAY THE LEAST. DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK HGH PEYTON WINS THE SUPERBOWL? THEN YOU GOTTA BE ON HGH? DENVER IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH NOW ACCEPT IT YA'ALL.
So you like CarolinaSo what Who are you again?Stop using CAPSLOCK I pay you less attention when you yell.You, just like the majority will be proven wrong againLike you public parasites get proven wrong year in year out year in year out
YES SIR, ANYTHING YOU SAY BOSS. PRO DENVER YAHOOS LIKE YOU MAKE THE CAROLINA SB VICTORY ALL THE MORE SATISFYING. THIS GAME REMINDS ME OF PATRIOTS V CHICAGO AND PATRIOTS V GREENBAY WHEN IT WAS OBVIOUS TO A BLIND MAN THE PATRIOTS HAD ZERO CHANCE. CAROLINA WILL KILL DENVER. REALLY BOSS, DENVER HAS NO CHANCE.
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Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:
Quote Originally Posted by THEBEAST387:
FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, BUT FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ANY FOOL WHOSE CHASIN DENVER. SMARTEN UP GET BACK AT DENVER FER LETTIN YA DOWN AGIN SEATTLE. YER LOOKIN A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH. CAROLINA WILL KILL DENVER. EMBARRASSING TO SAY THE LEAST. DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK HGH PEYTON WINS THE SUPERBOWL? THEN YOU GOTTA BE ON HGH? DENVER IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH NOW ACCEPT IT YA'ALL.
So you like CarolinaSo what Who are you again?Stop using CAPSLOCK I pay you less attention when you yell.You, just like the majority will be proven wrong againLike you public parasites get proven wrong year in year out year in year out
YES SIR, ANYTHING YOU SAY BOSS. PRO DENVER YAHOOS LIKE YOU MAKE THE CAROLINA SB VICTORY ALL THE MORE SATISFYING. THIS GAME REMINDS ME OF PATRIOTS V CHICAGO AND PATRIOTS V GREENBAY WHEN IT WAS OBVIOUS TO A BLIND MAN THE PATRIOTS HAD ZERO CHANCE. CAROLINA WILL KILL DENVER. REALLY BOSS, DENVER HAS NO CHANCE.
Since when does posting meaningless facts about previous games to support your opinion translate into viable information. Never does. Guy people like you pander obsessively to yahoos too lazy to think for themselves. Your posts OVERSTATE the obvious without practical content. Without a doubt anyone who reads your posts with any intelligence recognizes your sophomoric ramblings.
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:
Quote Originally Posted by THEBEAST387:
Clown horn tooting
Again
Since when does posting meaningless facts about previous games to support your opinion translate into viable information. Never does. Guy people like you pander obsessively to yahoos too lazy to think for themselves. Your posts OVERSTATE the obvious without practical content. Without a doubt anyone who reads your posts with any intelligence recognizes your sophomoric ramblings.
Mysticrich it's Denver vs Carolina. Go hate about
Brady in your own thread and drink a beer on his failure at Denver.
Nobody listens to your crap.
Hey dummy it is all about Denver and how very lucky they weren't eliminated two games ago
Try to read what i wrote and have a little common sense i know it's hard for you but try
hey,fuk.wit..heres an idea...why dont you and your fat,old butt-buddy "beast387" just fu.k off and spout your endless drivel and personal insults IN YOUR OWN THREAD??(which everyone will duly ignore of course)
the only reason you are in this thread is so you can get attention cos you know lots of people actually come in to read suuma's opinions,even tho that eats you up inside and makes you incredibly butt-hurt..
news-flash!!!!...NO-ONE ON THIS SITE GIVES 2 SHIITS ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY!!!!...EVER!!!
by the sounds of it youre a bitter,jealous old man and a world class phaggot that cant get over the fact that brady stuck it in your mom and your wife and tiore them apart right in front of you.
fukken piece of garbage,coming in here calling sumone a dummy and saying his opinions are horse manure......you are human fuk.king trash and no-one here likes you(which is saying sumthing given they havent even met you yet)..please,im begging you,as a service to all of us....end your life immediately...if not sooner.
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Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:
Mysticrich it's Denver vs Carolina. Go hate about
Brady in your own thread and drink a beer on his failure at Denver.
Nobody listens to your crap.
Hey dummy it is all about Denver and how very lucky they weren't eliminated two games ago
Try to read what i wrote and have a little common sense i know it's hard for you but try
hey,fuk.wit..heres an idea...why dont you and your fat,old butt-buddy "beast387" just fu.k off and spout your endless drivel and personal insults IN YOUR OWN THREAD??(which everyone will duly ignore of course)
the only reason you are in this thread is so you can get attention cos you know lots of people actually come in to read suuma's opinions,even tho that eats you up inside and makes you incredibly butt-hurt..
news-flash!!!!...NO-ONE ON THIS SITE GIVES 2 SHIITS ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY!!!!...EVER!!!
by the sounds of it youre a bitter,jealous old man and a world class phaggot that cant get over the fact that brady stuck it in your mom and your wife and tiore them apart right in front of you.
fukken piece of garbage,coming in here calling sumone a dummy and saying his opinions are horse manure......you are human fuk.king trash and no-one here likes you(which is saying sumthing given they havent even met you yet)..please,im begging you,as a service to all of us....end your life immediately...if not sooner.
I was not signed up to be able to comment on the job that I think you and several other people on this site do..I really enjoy reading your blogs, and have picked a lot of the teams you picked..I have been following you, and several others through the season, and I also like your pick for the SB..I am routing for Den..to win it all..I do have some experience in picking, but not even close to people on the site..
I wish I would have followed covers from the beginning, because I did not do too well this season..Looking forward to the superbowl, but if you make any changes as to the team or the O/U please let me know..
Thanks again for all your hard work, and hope for a Denver win tomorrow..Do you still like the under in this game..
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Hi Summa,
I was not signed up to be able to comment on the job that I think you and several other people on this site do..I really enjoy reading your blogs, and have picked a lot of the teams you picked..I have been following you, and several others through the season, and I also like your pick for the SB..I am routing for Den..to win it all..I do have some experience in picking, but not even close to people on the site..
I wish I would have followed covers from the beginning, because I did not do too well this season..Looking forward to the superbowl, but if you make any changes as to the team or the O/U please let me know..
Thanks again for all your hard work, and hope for a Denver win tomorrow..Do you still like the under in this game..
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