@JohnnyChalk
right on
And they are correct. Don't overthink it
2 Superbowls
5 League MVP's
186 Regular Season Wins.
And they are correct. Don't overthink it
2 Superbowls
5 League MVP's
186 Regular Season Wins.
@AJ86
19 years threw
most ints as a rookie set record ,
missed struck out first round first 5 years ,
9 year gap in-between super bowl appearances
.500 super bowl record
barely over .500 career playoff records
244 interceptions top 5
1 Superbowl MVP
Eli
2-0 Superbowl's
2x superbowl MVP
playoff record 8-4
18 td -9ints
57k yard career passing yards top 10
@AJ86
19 years threw
most ints as a rookie set record ,
missed struck out first round first 5 years ,
9 year gap in-between super bowl appearances
.500 super bowl record
barely over .500 career playoff records
244 interceptions top 5
1 Superbowl MVP
Eli
2-0 Superbowl's
2x superbowl MVP
playoff record 8-4
18 td -9ints
57k yard career passing yards top 10
By the way.
Nice cherry picking stats.
Lets talk about your boy
366 TDs, 244 Ints. Yup. Super solid.
How many league MVPs? You know where you play solid for 16 weeks? Not just the superbowl
By the way.
Nice cherry picking stats.
Lets talk about your boy
366 TDs, 244 Ints. Yup. Super solid.
How many league MVPs? You know where you play solid for 16 weeks? Not just the superbowl
the NFL did a top 100 players of all time. No Eli
NFL all decade team in 2000s. No Eli
NFL all decade team in 2010s. No Eli.
I have seen Peyton all over the place. But no Eli.
the NFL did a top 100 players of all time. No Eli
NFL all decade team in 2000s. No Eli
NFL all decade team in 2010s. No Eli.
I have seen Peyton all over the place. But no Eli.
Eli didn't make it to the superbowl his last 8 years in the league. What was his excuse?
Eli didn't make it to the superbowl his last 8 years in the league. What was his excuse?
wait....lets take rodgers out of it for a second(because there is a separate argument you can make there on him vs peyton even if I don't agree with it)- are you really asking whether peyton manning or eli manning had the better career? Let's see....
-one guy won....let's see....1,2,3,4.....5 mvps. Peyton Manning won 5 mvps. I'll let you guess how many more mvps that is than his brother.
-Peyton manning was 1st all nfl at qb 7 times. SEVEN. Can you guess how many times eli did this? Hint: it's the same as his number of mvps.
-Peyton manning has a 187-79 career record. Eli? 118-118. Yeah, I don't think those are similar.
And one can go on and on between how mismatched these are. Both won two super bowls, but manning also went to two others. Eli really didn't have any postseason success outside of those two sb runs(I mean two super bowl runs is amazing, but not so amazing compared to a guy with two super bowls and then a ton of other playoff wins)
There is literally more difference in career quality between peyton manning and eli manning than there is between eli manning and......someone like Jake Delhomme. Or (insert some random decent but fairly forgettable guy).
Like it's impossible to overstate how big the gap is between an all time great top 2-4 type nfl qb of all time and Eli Manning.
wait....lets take rodgers out of it for a second(because there is a separate argument you can make there on him vs peyton even if I don't agree with it)- are you really asking whether peyton manning or eli manning had the better career? Let's see....
-one guy won....let's see....1,2,3,4.....5 mvps. Peyton Manning won 5 mvps. I'll let you guess how many more mvps that is than his brother.
-Peyton manning was 1st all nfl at qb 7 times. SEVEN. Can you guess how many times eli did this? Hint: it's the same as his number of mvps.
-Peyton manning has a 187-79 career record. Eli? 118-118. Yeah, I don't think those are similar.
And one can go on and on between how mismatched these are. Both won two super bowls, but manning also went to two others. Eli really didn't have any postseason success outside of those two sb runs(I mean two super bowl runs is amazing, but not so amazing compared to a guy with two super bowls and then a ton of other playoff wins)
There is literally more difference in career quality between peyton manning and eli manning than there is between eli manning and......someone like Jake Delhomme. Or (insert some random decent but fairly forgettable guy).
Like it's impossible to overstate how big the gap is between an all time great top 2-4 type nfl qb of all time and Eli Manning.
Aside from the two Super Bowl runs...Eli was a very average qb or worse most of his career.....500 record....never considered a top 5 qb during any era of his career.......and in those runs the defense was the star...no doubt....although he had some big moments.......Rodgers has played at a super high level much much more of the time.....obvious by the multiple map awards.....Manning is clearly on top here ....although judging by pure talent and mobility Rodgers wins.....but got to give nod to Manning i guess......although his second Super Bowl he wasn't even a top 20 qb that season with his health...defense totally won that game against Carolina.......Manning shouldn't even be in conversation really.....winning a title isn't the whole story...many guys won titles who were average or below average .....and many who were really great in their era didn't (Tarkenton...Fouts....Marino....).....
Aside from the two Super Bowl runs...Eli was a very average qb or worse most of his career.....500 record....never considered a top 5 qb during any era of his career.......and in those runs the defense was the star...no doubt....although he had some big moments.......Rodgers has played at a super high level much much more of the time.....obvious by the multiple map awards.....Manning is clearly on top here ....although judging by pure talent and mobility Rodgers wins.....but got to give nod to Manning i guess......although his second Super Bowl he wasn't even a top 20 qb that season with his health...defense totally won that game against Carolina.......Manning shouldn't even be in conversation really.....winning a title isn't the whole story...many guys won titles who were average or below average .....and many who were really great in their era didn't (Tarkenton...Fouts....Marino....).....
@AJ86
By 'mahomes'.......do you mean Patrick Mahomes? I'm assuming since the comparison is eli Manning, there is some other mahomes that I don't remember who was a fairly decent but unspectactular player a long time ago?
Because if it's patrick mahomes, I can only conclude that you're as clueless as the original poster who posed the eli vs peyton question.
Let me give you guys a hint- Eli Manning is not comparable to any of the following qbs: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Montana. Well a bunch more than that(like 30 plus more pretty easily but whatever), but lets just start there.....
I swear....is eli's wife coming on here to ask these questions?
@AJ86
By 'mahomes'.......do you mean Patrick Mahomes? I'm assuming since the comparison is eli Manning, there is some other mahomes that I don't remember who was a fairly decent but unspectactular player a long time ago?
Because if it's patrick mahomes, I can only conclude that you're as clueless as the original poster who posed the eli vs peyton question.
Let me give you guys a hint- Eli Manning is not comparable to any of the following qbs: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Montana. Well a bunch more than that(like 30 plus more pretty easily but whatever), but lets just start there.....
I swear....is eli's wife coming on here to ask these questions?
@theMatrix24
well he's not a 'joke'. He was a slightly above average(the advanced stats and his record state he was average exactly; I tend to think he was a touch better and those two metrics underrate him a little. And there is value in being a slightly above average nfl qb for so many years......especially when you are the starting qb of two super bowl wins during that time. That's a very impressive accomplishment.
But in no way should it elevate such a player to literally all time great qbs of the game.
@theMatrix24
well he's not a 'joke'. He was a slightly above average(the advanced stats and his record state he was average exactly; I tend to think he was a touch better and those two metrics underrate him a little. And there is value in being a slightly above average nfl qb for so many years......especially when you are the starting qb of two super bowl wins during that time. That's a very impressive accomplishment.
But in no way should it elevate such a player to literally all time great qbs of the game.
@AJ86
@AJ86
Football such a team game......just ask Josh Allen...who had one of greatest playoff games ever....gave his team the lead with 13 seconds to go.....only to walk off a loser......or Jim kelly.....twice the qb Manning ever was.....who watched his kicker miss the winning kick.....keeping him from winning the Super Bowl......then having to watch guys like Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles win rings.......nothing against Foles...he had a great run end of that season....but you get the point.....
Football such a team game......just ask Josh Allen...who had one of greatest playoff games ever....gave his team the lead with 13 seconds to go.....only to walk off a loser......or Jim kelly.....twice the qb Manning ever was.....who watched his kicker miss the winning kick.....keeping him from winning the Super Bowl......then having to watch guys like Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles win rings.......nothing against Foles...he had a great run end of that season....but you get the point.....
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