Are government kills people all the time to make money its called war so I could give a rat ass about a few pitbulls...
They do kill people all the time so that American society can continue as it is and stupid, ignorant, unarticulate, unfeeling pieces of shit like Vick can become millionaires for playing a game.....I would not bash it too hard if you enjoy our North American way of life cause people die so you can continue to enjoy it.....No it's not right but it is what it is.....
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
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Quote Originally Posted by Vegas99:
Are government kills people all the time to make money its called war so I could give a rat ass about a few pitbulls...
They do kill people all the time so that American society can continue as it is and stupid, ignorant, unarticulate, unfeeling pieces of shit like Vick can become millionaires for playing a game.....I would not bash it too hard if you enjoy our North American way of life cause people die so you can continue to enjoy it.....No it's not right but it is what it is.....
Americans spend $2 billion a year on their pets ... many folks would rather spend their last $10.00 on a bag of dog food then spend it on themselves. Michael Vick is just a "point spread" much like any other athlete -- if he isn't playing to cover the spread someone else will handle the ball !!! If any NFL team picks him up they will regret they ever did !!!!!!!!
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Americans spend $2 billion a year on their pets ... many folks would rather spend their last $10.00 on a bag of dog food then spend it on themselves. Michael Vick is just a "point spread" much like any other athlete -- if he isn't playing to cover the spread someone else will handle the ball !!! If any NFL team picks him up they will regret they ever did !!!!!!!!
So Vick was exacting revenge for American Slave History? Are you fucking serious???
He was running an illegal and sick business that he gave thought to and ran on a daily basis as puppy dogs were bred and selected to fight, starve (to make angrier and more vicious), antagonize (kept within inches of eachothers face to incite hatred) tortured both in and out of the fight circle and discarded and killed usually by drowning at the hands of one of Vicks henchmen if it was not slowly eaten to death in the ring for entertainment purposes.
This was not an incident, it was a business ran and operated and given thought to daily, which makes it part of who he is not something he did in my opinion. An incident is something that happens, something someone did. He ran a sick business for more money.
WTF does any of that have to do with American Slave History?
The dumbest and most racist post I Have ever read on covers goes to you.
Your the type of person who keeps hate and race the number one issue in American Society. Your countries number one weakness and its downfall.....
NO.... MY Point was Maybe some Blacks don't see Dogs as Loving companions////
More of just a Beast
The 60's/70's were not that long ago ,The Police almost everywhere turned dogs Loose on People during the Civil rights movement...,,,,
Here in WNY several PD's was notorius for letting Dogs loose on Blacks until the Mid 80's
Vick was Totally WRONG to torture and kill dogs...
I think he has a Sick Mind and was rightfully punished ...
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:
So Vick was exacting revenge for American Slave History? Are you fucking serious???
He was running an illegal and sick business that he gave thought to and ran on a daily basis as puppy dogs were bred and selected to fight, starve (to make angrier and more vicious), antagonize (kept within inches of eachothers face to incite hatred) tortured both in and out of the fight circle and discarded and killed usually by drowning at the hands of one of Vicks henchmen if it was not slowly eaten to death in the ring for entertainment purposes.
This was not an incident, it was a business ran and operated and given thought to daily, which makes it part of who he is not something he did in my opinion. An incident is something that happens, something someone did. He ran a sick business for more money.
WTF does any of that have to do with American Slave History?
The dumbest and most racist post I Have ever read on covers goes to you.
Your the type of person who keeps hate and race the number one issue in American Society. Your countries number one weakness and its downfall.....
NO.... MY Point was Maybe some Blacks don't see Dogs as Loving companions////
More of just a Beast
The 60's/70's were not that long ago ,The Police almost everywhere turned dogs Loose on People during the Civil rights movement...,,,,
Here in WNY several PD's was notorius for letting Dogs loose on Blacks until the Mid 80's
Vick was Totally WRONG to torture and kill dogs...
I think he has a Sick Mind and was rightfully punished ...
Cruelty and killing as sport and entertainment...sounds like the fall of the Roman Empire. No amount of fame and/or money will cure what ails people like Vick.
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Cruelty and killing as sport and entertainment...sounds like the fall of the Roman Empire. No amount of fame and/or money will cure what ails people like Vick.
fuck vick and his supporters vick is stupid person dont like that word but it fits vick to a tee. and as 4 you get over the 400 years ago has nothing to do with anything
This is MARITIMEMAC locked up with Vick and getting his doggy on.
fuck vick and his supporters vick is stupid person dont like that word but it fits vick to a tee. and as 4 you get over the 400 years ago has nothing to do with anything
This is MARITIMEMAC locked up with Vick and getting his doggy on.
NO.... MY Point was Maybe some Blacks don't see Dogs as Loving companions////
More of just a Beast
The 60's/70's were not that long ago ,The Police almost everywhere turned dogs Loose on People during the Civil rights movement...,,,,
Here in WNY several PD's was notorius for letting Dogs loose on Blacks until the Mid 80's
Vick was Totally WRONG to torture and kill dogs...
I think he has a Sick Mind and was rightfully punished ...
I know what your point was but in my opinion you just took a shit route to it my friend! It suggested Vick may have run this business cause he hated the way dogs were used in American History...He ran it cause he is a stupid, greedy, cruel fuck who wanted more coin...Period......................To be honest if he plays I don't even care that much as the NFL has a few murderers and rapists and in general human pieces of garbage in it anyway and using the word few is being kind so it is strictly entertainment anyway and some that entertain us will have class and be solid people and some will be the opposite to both those things.
Nothing Vick did had to do with hating dogs cause of how they have been used in American History and if he was/is that stupid that is almost even more fucked IMO!
I more just think he is dumb as mud to be doing shit like that when he was making what he was making dollar wise....Truly retarded.....He will be playing ball again soon enough.....
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
NO.... MY Point was Maybe some Blacks don't see Dogs as Loving companions////
More of just a Beast
The 60's/70's were not that long ago ,The Police almost everywhere turned dogs Loose on People during the Civil rights movement...,,,,
Here in WNY several PD's was notorius for letting Dogs loose on Blacks until the Mid 80's
Vick was Totally WRONG to torture and kill dogs...
I think he has a Sick Mind and was rightfully punished ...
I know what your point was but in my opinion you just took a shit route to it my friend! It suggested Vick may have run this business cause he hated the way dogs were used in American History...He ran it cause he is a stupid, greedy, cruel fuck who wanted more coin...Period......................To be honest if he plays I don't even care that much as the NFL has a few murderers and rapists and in general human pieces of garbage in it anyway and using the word few is being kind so it is strictly entertainment anyway and some that entertain us will have class and be solid people and some will be the opposite to both those things.
Nothing Vick did had to do with hating dogs cause of how they have been used in American History and if he was/is that stupid that is almost even more fucked IMO!
I more just think he is dumb as mud to be doing shit like that when he was making what he was making dollar wise....Truly retarded.....He will be playing ball again soon enough.....
Dont hold your breath. You can write a 100 word paragraph calling a black man every racist word in the book, call a spanish man every racist slur in the book.....nothing will happen.
Call someone a F*G and within seconds mods will be in here with their sirens. Pretty pathetic if you ask me, but its not my site, so I cant do nothing about the racist comments being allowed. Dont hold your breath though.
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Quote Originally Posted by Wise-Degenerate:
This is MARITIMEMAC locked up with Vick and getting his doggy on.
Dont hold your breath. You can write a 100 word paragraph calling a black man every racist word in the book, call a spanish man every racist slur in the book.....nothing will happen.
Call someone a F*G and within seconds mods will be in here with their sirens. Pretty pathetic if you ask me, but its not my site, so I cant do nothing about the racist comments being allowed. Dont hold your breath though.
For starters, this thread makes me question the merits of free speech.
Secondly, disucussion of the holocaust and slavery, to me, don't really compare here. (Neither do any derogatory phrases).
Most importantly I feel NO ONE has touched on the main point. Vick is an AVERAGE QB AT BEST!!!!!
38-28-1 71TD/52 INT sacked 187.
Playoff Record 2-2 3TD/3Int
Those aren't bad numbers, but not great either. Hundreds of other qb's have similar career numbers. If I was an NFL general manager my thought would be why take the PR hit when there is a ton of other guys that can put up similar numbers and are turning 23 and not 29?
He was very flashy, and had a few plays every year that wowed us all, but if you move past the flair, you find an average QB.
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For starters, this thread makes me question the merits of free speech.
Secondly, disucussion of the holocaust and slavery, to me, don't really compare here. (Neither do any derogatory phrases).
Most importantly I feel NO ONE has touched on the main point. Vick is an AVERAGE QB AT BEST!!!!!
38-28-1 71TD/52 INT sacked 187.
Playoff Record 2-2 3TD/3Int
Those aren't bad numbers, but not great either. Hundreds of other qb's have similar career numbers. If I was an NFL general manager my thought would be why take the PR hit when there is a ton of other guys that can put up similar numbers and are turning 23 and not 29?
He was very flashy, and had a few plays every year that wowed us all, but if you move past the flair, you find an average QB.
For starters, this thread makes me question the merits of free speech.
Secondly, disucussion of the holocaust and slavery, to me, don't really compare here. (Neither do any derogatory phrases).
Most importantly I feel NO ONE has touched on the main point. Vick is an AVERAGE QB AT BEST!!!!!
38-28-1 71TD/52 INT sacked 187.
Playoff Record 2-2 3TD/3Int
Those aren't bad numbers, but not great either. Hundreds of other qb's have similar career numbers. If I was an NFL general manager my thought would be why take the PR hit when there is a ton of other guys that can put up similar numbers and are turning 23 and not 29?
He was very flashy, and had a few plays every year that wowed us all, but if you move past the flair, you find an average QB.
Thats stupid....why would you move passed the flair? Thats like saying if you move past Chris Paul's passing skills hes an average PG.........he has the passing skils, just like Vick has the flair.....
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Quote Originally Posted by swamppdonkey77:
For starters, this thread makes me question the merits of free speech.
Secondly, disucussion of the holocaust and slavery, to me, don't really compare here. (Neither do any derogatory phrases).
Most importantly I feel NO ONE has touched on the main point. Vick is an AVERAGE QB AT BEST!!!!!
38-28-1 71TD/52 INT sacked 187.
Playoff Record 2-2 3TD/3Int
Those aren't bad numbers, but not great either. Hundreds of other qb's have similar career numbers. If I was an NFL general manager my thought would be why take the PR hit when there is a ton of other guys that can put up similar numbers and are turning 23 and not 29?
He was very flashy, and had a few plays every year that wowed us all, but if you move past the flair, you find an average QB.
Thats stupid....why would you move passed the flair? Thats like saying if you move past Chris Paul's passing skills hes an average PG.........he has the passing skils, just like Vick has the flair.....
I see your still arguing with these guys huh Sam?? I just cant do it anymore....Whats funny is noone in this whole thread has hit on the real problem. He has been in dog fights since 8. 8 years old??? This is something that was around 8 year old kids. Does anyone see a problem with that? How about law inforcement acctually do there jobs and stop this in the communities that this happens in and stop betting on the fights themselves. ( If you think for a second that cops and sheriffs dont bet on these dog fights you fooling yourselfs). And even though this is an outrages crime, to try to compare to ANY crime on a animal to a crime a human comites to another human is just as outrages. There was a stat put up that said 2 billion dollars got spent on pets last year in the states. There are 90k homeless people in LA county alone. Can you imagine what kind of human lives that money could have helped if people werent upsest with pets in this country. It is a fkn shame that people would treat there pet better then another human being, even if it was a stranger.
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I see your still arguing with these guys huh Sam?? I just cant do it anymore....Whats funny is noone in this whole thread has hit on the real problem. He has been in dog fights since 8. 8 years old??? This is something that was around 8 year old kids. Does anyone see a problem with that? How about law inforcement acctually do there jobs and stop this in the communities that this happens in and stop betting on the fights themselves. ( If you think for a second that cops and sheriffs dont bet on these dog fights you fooling yourselfs). And even though this is an outrages crime, to try to compare to ANY crime on a animal to a crime a human comites to another human is just as outrages. There was a stat put up that said 2 billion dollars got spent on pets last year in the states. There are 90k homeless people in LA county alone. Can you imagine what kind of human lives that money could have helped if people werent upsest with pets in this country. It is a fkn shame that people would treat there pet better then another human being, even if it was a stranger.
For starters, this thread makes me question the merits of free speech.
Secondly, disucussion of the holocaust and slavery, to me, don't really compare here. (Neither do any derogatory phrases).
Most importantly I feel NO ONE has touched on the main point. Vick is an AVERAGE QB AT BEST!!!!!
38-28-1 71TD/52 INT sacked 187.
Playoff Record 2-2 3TD/3Int
Those aren't bad numbers, but not great either. Hundreds of other qb's have similar career numbers. If I was an NFL general manager my thought would be why take the PR hit when there is a ton of other guys that can put up similar numbers and are turning 23 and not 29?
He was very flashy, and had a few plays every year that wowed us all, but if you move past the flair, you find an average QB.
I was being sarcastic to ignorant fools. I simply probing the point that what Vick did isnt really that horrible in the big picture we call life. Many have done FAR worse things and will continue to do so until the end of time.
Let me ask you this and I will leave it alone. If you had a choice between someone raping your mom or sister or girlfriend , or killing 1000 pitbulls with a hammer, what would you choose? You would have those dogs lined up and be a hammering s.o.b ......
get a grip people...
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Quote Originally Posted by swamppdonkey77:
For starters, this thread makes me question the merits of free speech.
Secondly, disucussion of the holocaust and slavery, to me, don't really compare here. (Neither do any derogatory phrases).
Most importantly I feel NO ONE has touched on the main point. Vick is an AVERAGE QB AT BEST!!!!!
38-28-1 71TD/52 INT sacked 187.
Playoff Record 2-2 3TD/3Int
Those aren't bad numbers, but not great either. Hundreds of other qb's have similar career numbers. If I was an NFL general manager my thought would be why take the PR hit when there is a ton of other guys that can put up similar numbers and are turning 23 and not 29?
He was very flashy, and had a few plays every year that wowed us all, but if you move past the flair, you find an average QB.
I was being sarcastic to ignorant fools. I simply probing the point that what Vick did isnt really that horrible in the big picture we call life. Many have done FAR worse things and will continue to do so until the end of time.
Let me ask you this and I will leave it alone. If you had a choice between someone raping your mom or sister or girlfriend , or killing 1000 pitbulls with a hammer, what would you choose? You would have those dogs lined up and be a hammering s.o.b ......
They do kill people all the time so that American society can continue as it is and stupid, ignorant, unarticulate, unfeeling pieces of shit like Vick can become millionaires for playing a game.....I would not bash it too hard if you enjoy our North American way of life cause people die so you can continue to enjoy it.....No it's not right but it is what it is.....
The ends don't justify the means......you reap what you sow.
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Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:
They do kill people all the time so that American society can continue as it is and stupid, ignorant, unarticulate, unfeeling pieces of shit like Vick can become millionaires for playing a game.....I would not bash it too hard if you enjoy our North American way of life cause people die so you can continue to enjoy it.....No it's not right but it is what it is.....
The ends don't justify the means......you reap what you sow.
Train...Im a big supporter of the whole Vick did his time [too much at that] and should be left alone. But if you are trying to make the point that what is worse, having your mother raped or killing 1000 pitbulls.......im not sure anyone would say rape my mother and save the dogs. What are you trying to say? At least his mother wasnt raped? I dont understand.
I dont think that was a good question.
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Train...Im a big supporter of the whole Vick did his time [too much at that] and should be left alone. But if you are trying to make the point that what is worse, having your mother raped or killing 1000 pitbulls.......im not sure anyone would say rape my mother and save the dogs. What are you trying to say? At least his mother wasnt raped? I dont understand.
Yes people would kill dogs if it would save a rape........was Vick in that situation? no...he was wrong and did his time. Too much time. Now let the man carry on.
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Yes people would kill dogs if it would save a rape........was Vick in that situation? no...he was wrong and did his time. Too much time. Now let the man carry on.
Train...Im a big supporter of the whole Vick did his time [too much at that] and should be left alone. But if you are trying to make the point that what is worse, having your mother raped or killing 1000 pitbulls.......im not sure anyone would say rape my mother and save the dogs. What are you trying to say? At least his mother wasnt raped? I dont understand.
I dont think that was a good question.
I was making the point that if you think about it, killing dogs is way down on peoples lists of things that they wouldnt want to happen....
yeah, Vick killed some dogs.....he lost 2 years of his life for it
he didnt....
Rape anyone (that we know of)
Kill anyone (that we know of)
Steal anyones life savings
Dante Stallworth KILLED another human and spent 30 days in jail.....
like I said, people need to get a grip...
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:
Train...Im a big supporter of the whole Vick did his time [too much at that] and should be left alone. But if you are trying to make the point that what is worse, having your mother raped or killing 1000 pitbulls.......im not sure anyone would say rape my mother and save the dogs. What are you trying to say? At least his mother wasnt raped? I dont understand.
I dont think that was a good question.
I was making the point that if you think about it, killing dogs is way down on peoples lists of things that they wouldnt want to happen....
yeah, Vick killed some dogs.....he lost 2 years of his life for it
he didnt....
Rape anyone (that we know of)
Kill anyone (that we know of)
Steal anyones life savings
Dante Stallworth KILLED another human and spent 30 days in jail.....
Vick would have been better off shooting somebody; nobody gives a shit about that kind of stuff... if you have a big enough posse and enough assault weapons you get a free pass...... can you say ray lewis???? flagrant killer... league mvp....
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Vick would have been better off shooting somebody; nobody gives a shit about that kind of stuff... if you have a big enough posse and enough assault weapons you get a free pass...... can you say ray lewis???? flagrant killer... league mvp....
I was being sarcastic to ignorant fools. I simply probing the point that what Vick did isnt really that horrible in the big picture we call life. Many have done FAR worse things and will continue to do so until the end of time.
Let me ask you this and I will leave it alone. If you had a choice between someone raping your mom or sister or girlfriend , or killing 1000 pitbulls with a hammer, what would you choose? You would have those dogs lined up and be a hammering s.o.b ......
get a grip people...
Of course we would choose to kill the dogs to save our mother/sister/wife. I don't think michael vick was faced with that decision though.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
I was being sarcastic to ignorant fools. I simply probing the point that what Vick did isnt really that horrible in the big picture we call life. Many have done FAR worse things and will continue to do so until the end of time.
Let me ask you this and I will leave it alone. If you had a choice between someone raping your mom or sister or girlfriend , or killing 1000 pitbulls with a hammer, what would you choose? You would have those dogs lined up and be a hammering s.o.b ......
get a grip people...
Of course we would choose to kill the dogs to save our mother/sister/wife. I don't think michael vick was faced with that decision though.
Thats stupid....why would you move passed the flair? Thats like saying if you move past Chris Paul's passing skills hes an average PG.........he has the passing skils, just like Vick has the flair.....
That's a terrible comparison! Chris Paul needs to pass to be a good pg. Flair doesn't nessecarily mean you do something well, it means you do it colorfully. Maybe I worded it poorly, I guess what i am getting at is that many guys like say Jim Harbaugh have similar numbers, he just didn't do it with flair.
Is it your argument that Vick is a top tier QB? The stats don't agree. Chris Pauls stats show he is a great pg. If Vick was such a great talent he'd be in a camp now. There are plenty of owners that have drug addicts, rapists, wife beaters and guys with manslaughter and/or homicide convictions. If a guy has enough talent they will take the chance on him.
Note my argument has nothing to do with the ethical/moral implacations of Vick's crimes. My feeling is that he's not worth the risk on the basis of the combination of having average qb skills in his prime, and missing two years of live football.
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Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:
Thats stupid....why would you move passed the flair? Thats like saying if you move past Chris Paul's passing skills hes an average PG.........he has the passing skils, just like Vick has the flair.....
That's a terrible comparison! Chris Paul needs to pass to be a good pg. Flair doesn't nessecarily mean you do something well, it means you do it colorfully. Maybe I worded it poorly, I guess what i am getting at is that many guys like say Jim Harbaugh have similar numbers, he just didn't do it with flair.
Is it your argument that Vick is a top tier QB? The stats don't agree. Chris Pauls stats show he is a great pg. If Vick was such a great talent he'd be in a camp now. There are plenty of owners that have drug addicts, rapists, wife beaters and guys with manslaughter and/or homicide convictions. If a guy has enough talent they will take the chance on him.
Note my argument has nothing to do with the ethical/moral implacations of Vick's crimes. My feeling is that he's not worth the risk on the basis of the combination of having average qb skills in his prime, and missing two years of live football.
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