aside from the fact that the statement is red is completely false... BETTER COACH!? what the fuck are you thinking!? Payton is a douchebag who is guaranteed to make at least 2 or 3 remedial coaching mistakes every game... i'm not sure he is even in the upper 50% of the coaches in the NFL...
Saints might have an edge in special teams, but they don't have an edge anywhere else... this line is where it is because the AFC is completely dominant over the NFC this year, and because the Colts are quite a bit better than the Saints... in fact, it is lower than it should be, because most people buy into the Saints, and think this game should be close to a pick em...
think about it... from a purely capping standpoint... don't you think the books would have made the line (-3) or kept it at (-3.5) if they really believed this was close to a pick'em, knowing that the majority of people buy into the Saints hype, and don't realize there is that big of a disparity between the conferences?
if the books posted the line higher than you think it should be... then the real line should be EVEN HIGHER...
aside from the fact that the statement is red is completely false... BETTER COACH!? what the fuck are you thinking!? Payton is a douchebag who is guaranteed to make at least 2 or 3 remedial coaching mistakes every game... i'm not sure he is even in the upper 50% of the coaches in the NFL...
Saints might have an edge in special teams, but they don't have an edge anywhere else... this line is where it is because the AFC is completely dominant over the NFC this year, and because the Colts are quite a bit better than the Saints... in fact, it is lower than it should be, because most people buy into the Saints, and think this game should be close to a pick em...
think about it... from a purely capping standpoint... don't you think the books would have made the line (-3) or kept it at (-3.5) if they really believed this was close to a pick'em, knowing that the majority of people buy into the Saints hype, and don't realize there is that big of a disparity between the conferences?
if the books posted the line higher than you think it should be... then the real line should be EVEN HIGHER...
Colts have faced only three good QBs all year:
Kurt Warner - 30/52 332 yards 1/2 67.1 rating
Matt Schaub - 32/43 311 yards 2/2 82.6 rating
Tom Brady - 29/42 375 yards 3/1 110.7 rating
Matt Schaub - 31/42 284 yards 2/2 87.8 rating
Considering Mat Schaub is still only considered above average, the Colts shouldn't be laying -6 to a 15-3 team with a great QB in Brees. The Saints will not play it conservative against the Colts.
Colts have faced only three good QBs all year:
Kurt Warner - 30/52 332 yards 1/2 67.1 rating
Matt Schaub - 32/43 311 yards 2/2 82.6 rating
Tom Brady - 29/42 375 yards 3/1 110.7 rating
Matt Schaub - 31/42 284 yards 2/2 87.8 rating
Considering Mat Schaub is still only considered above average, the Colts shouldn't be laying -6 to a 15-3 team with a great QB in Brees. The Saints will not play it conservative against the Colts.
Saints might have an edge in special teams, but they don't have an edge anywhere else... this line is where it is because the AFC is completely dominant over the NFC this year, and because the Colts are quite a bit better than the Saints... in fact, it is lower than it should be, because most people buy into the Saints, and think this game should be close to a pick em...
Besides the other douchebaggery statements, what info do you have that says the AFC was stronger than the NFC in 2009? It seems to me, the AFC definetly had a down year this year. Just compare the playoff teams of both conferences. Was like night and day. Seems defintely the year that marked a return of NFC supremacy. I think the Super Bowl will prove this to be the case.
Saints were 4-0 against the AFC this year.
Saints might have an edge in special teams, but they don't have an edge anywhere else... this line is where it is because the AFC is completely dominant over the NFC this year, and because the Colts are quite a bit better than the Saints... in fact, it is lower than it should be, because most people buy into the Saints, and think this game should be close to a pick em...
Besides the other douchebaggery statements, what info do you have that says the AFC was stronger than the NFC in 2009? It seems to me, the AFC definetly had a down year this year. Just compare the playoff teams of both conferences. Was like night and day. Seems defintely the year that marked a return of NFC supremacy. I think the Super Bowl will prove this to be the case.
Saints were 4-0 against the AFC this year.
Colts have faced only three good QBs all year:
Kurt Warner - 30/52 332 yards 1/2 67.1 rating
Matt Schaub - 32/43 311 yards 2/2 82.6 rating
Tom Brady - 29/42 375 yards 3/1 110.7 rating
Matt Schaub - 31/42 284 yards 2/2 87.8 rating
Considering Mat Schaub is still only considered above average, the Colts shouldn't be laying -6 to a 15-3 team with a great QB in Brees. The Saints will not play it conservative against the Colts.
Colts have faced only three good QBs all year:
Kurt Warner - 30/52 332 yards 1/2 67.1 rating
Matt Schaub - 32/43 311 yards 2/2 82.6 rating
Tom Brady - 29/42 375 yards 3/1 110.7 rating
Matt Schaub - 31/42 284 yards 2/2 87.8 rating
Considering Mat Schaub is still only considered above average, the Colts shouldn't be laying -6 to a 15-3 team with a great QB in Brees. The Saints will not play it conservative against the Colts.
Trent Dilfer made the pro-bowl. He can be considered above-average. Think long and hard about it this time.
Perhaps you missed the point, but all of the decent to great Qbs I listed had decent to great days against the Colts except Warner. Brady smoked them.
You'd like to see ratings below 80. Looking good for Brees.
Trent Dilfer made the pro-bowl. He can be considered above-average. Think long and hard about it this time.
Perhaps you missed the point, but all of the decent to great Qbs I listed had decent to great days against the Colts except Warner. Brady smoked them.
You'd like to see ratings below 80. Looking good for Brees.
ah ice how the fuck can you say indy has a better coach that guy is a clown with that stupid face that moron did the same thing dungy did ,sit back and let #18 and the rest of the coaching staff. win games for them,payton put nwo back on the map and that was not easy .
defence is even when it comes to numbers but nwo knows how to create turnovers so edge goes to nwo
offence goes to nwo the numbers alone should tell you who is going to win this game.everyone talks about indy and how do you stop them but nwo has much better stats and balance which is what wins sbs.
the line is set so high because people like you will bet indy at -7 or -3 so why give the public a better chance when they are blind and stupid.
take the gift from the boys and hit nwo its the right play and its the winning play.
ah ice how the fuck can you say indy has a better coach that guy is a clown with that stupid face that moron did the same thing dungy did ,sit back and let #18 and the rest of the coaching staff. win games for them,payton put nwo back on the map and that was not easy .
defence is even when it comes to numbers but nwo knows how to create turnovers so edge goes to nwo
offence goes to nwo the numbers alone should tell you who is going to win this game.everyone talks about indy and how do you stop them but nwo has much better stats and balance which is what wins sbs.
the line is set so high because people like you will bet indy at -7 or -3 so why give the public a better chance when they are blind and stupid.
take the gift from the boys and hit nwo its the right play and its the winning play.
I like NO but in no way is this a great game to bet on other than this is the SB. I am absolutely going to put a below average wager on this. Indy looks great and Peyton is going to be elected President, so I am also influenced by all this. I do think we get another great game like the Giants two years ago and the Cards last year and I think I will have some more fun on props.
GL
I like NO but in no way is this a great game to bet on other than this is the SB. I am absolutely going to put a below average wager on this. Indy looks great and Peyton is going to be elected President, so I am also influenced by all this. I do think we get another great game like the Giants two years ago and the Cards last year and I think I will have some more fun on props.
GL
Colts have faced only three good QBs all year:
Kurt Warner - 30/52 332 yards 1/2 67.1 rating
Matt Schaub - 32/43 311 yards 2/2 82.6 rating
Tom Brady - 29/42 375 yards 3/1 110.7 rating
Matt Schaub - 31/42 284 yards 2/2 87.8 rating
Considering Mat Schaub is still only considered above average, the Colts shouldn't be laying -6 to a 15-3 team with a great QB in Brees. The Saints will not play it conservative against the Colts.
And beat every one of them.
Colts have faced only three good QBs all year:
Kurt Warner - 30/52 332 yards 1/2 67.1 rating
Matt Schaub - 32/43 311 yards 2/2 82.6 rating
Tom Brady - 29/42 375 yards 3/1 110.7 rating
Matt Schaub - 31/42 284 yards 2/2 87.8 rating
Considering Mat Schaub is still only considered above average, the Colts shouldn't be laying -6 to a 15-3 team with a great QB in Brees. The Saints will not play it conservative against the Colts.
And beat every one of them.
I thought Brees played his worst game of the season... I think he felt a lot of pressure (aside from the Vikings D) trying to deliver the Saints to a point they have never been. I think the pressure is clearly off of the Saints and on Peyton Manning to cement his legacy among the all time great QB's. Besides being a homer and wanting to see the Saints win I like playing the team who can play loose in this situation.
I think the offenses will make plays against each others defense and it will come down to turnovers and special teams. Still not sure if I am going to make a play to hedge my Saints future... starting to warm up to idea of letting it ride again.
I thought Brees played his worst game of the season... I think he felt a lot of pressure (aside from the Vikings D) trying to deliver the Saints to a point they have never been. I think the pressure is clearly off of the Saints and on Peyton Manning to cement his legacy among the all time great QB's. Besides being a homer and wanting to see the Saints win I like playing the team who can play loose in this situation.
I think the offenses will make plays against each others defense and it will come down to turnovers and special teams. Still not sure if I am going to make a play to hedge my Saints future... starting to warm up to idea of letting it ride again.
I thought Brees played his worst game of the season... I think he felt a lot of pressure (aside from the Vikings D) trying to deliver the Saints to a point they have never been. I think the pressure is clearly off of the Saints and on Peyton Manning to cement his legacy among the all time great QB's. Besides being a homer and wanting to see the Saints win I like playing the team who can play loose in this situation.
I think the offenses will make plays against each others defense and it will come down to turnovers and special teams. Still not sure if I am going to make a play to hedge my Saints future... starting to warm up to idea of letting it ride again.
PEYTON MANNING THRIVES UNDER PRESSURE...ALWAYS HAS...ALWAYS WILL
DREW BREES FOLDS UNDER PRESSURE...ALWAYS HAS....ALWAYS WILL
I thought Brees played his worst game of the season... I think he felt a lot of pressure (aside from the Vikings D) trying to deliver the Saints to a point they have never been. I think the pressure is clearly off of the Saints and on Peyton Manning to cement his legacy among the all time great QB's. Besides being a homer and wanting to see the Saints win I like playing the team who can play loose in this situation.
I think the offenses will make plays against each others defense and it will come down to turnovers and special teams. Still not sure if I am going to make a play to hedge my Saints future... starting to warm up to idea of letting it ride again.
PEYTON MANNING THRIVES UNDER PRESSURE...ALWAYS HAS...ALWAYS WILL
DREW BREES FOLDS UNDER PRESSURE...ALWAYS HAS....ALWAYS WILL
Simon- I like Manning a lot and believe he has placed himself in a very elite class of QB's in NFL history But if you look at the big picture aside from the 4-0 run to the Superbowl he has had his fair share of woes in the big spots.
1999: 0-1
2000: 0-1
2002: 0-1
2003: 2-1
2004: 1-1
2005: 0-1
2006: 4-0
2007: 0-1
2008: 0-1
2009: 2-0
Simon- I like Manning a lot and believe he has placed himself in a very elite class of QB's in NFL history But if you look at the big picture aside from the 4-0 run to the Superbowl he has had his fair share of woes in the big spots.
1999: 0-1
2000: 0-1
2002: 0-1
2003: 2-1
2004: 1-1
2005: 0-1
2006: 4-0
2007: 0-1
2008: 0-1
2009: 2-0
BUSTIN---not too many woes since he's had a complete team behind him. I'm not a big Peyton fan, he cost me a ton at TENN...one of those guys that kill ya if ya bet against him, and one of those guys that throws a late INT when you're on him! But point blank, he's in a class of his own. I'd like to see a tight game, but honestly... I can see him dissecting this defense...controlling the tempo anyway he wants...I just don't see many match-ups favoring N.O.
And Brees...great year, yep. But the guy's never shown up for a BIG game. This is his shot to prove himself. You and I both know that stats are for losers...we'll see what he does here. Maybe I'm wrong, but just don't think he's quite ready to be compared with the great ones...and think one day (if not already!), Manning's one of 'em...
Let's hope for an interesting, injury-free Game..
BUSTIN---not too many woes since he's had a complete team behind him. I'm not a big Peyton fan, he cost me a ton at TENN...one of those guys that kill ya if ya bet against him, and one of those guys that throws a late INT when you're on him! But point blank, he's in a class of his own. I'd like to see a tight game, but honestly... I can see him dissecting this defense...controlling the tempo anyway he wants...I just don't see many match-ups favoring N.O.
And Brees...great year, yep. But the guy's never shown up for a BIG game. This is his shot to prove himself. You and I both know that stats are for losers...we'll see what he does here. Maybe I'm wrong, but just don't think he's quite ready to be compared with the great ones...and think one day (if not already!), Manning's one of 'em...
Let's hope for an interesting, injury-free Game..
"You don't need luck when you have knowledge".
Quite a statement...your logic makes no sense...I see why you don't bet SuperBowls....Sean P. an "X-Factor", give me a break....
Saint fan or no Saint fan...admit that these guys got their asses beaten everywhere except on the scoreboard last week...and in actuality, don't belong here...
And to think you're gonna see a "Colts -3 maybe 2" is the most insane SuperBowl comment I've seen anywhere!!
"You don't need luck when you have knowledge".
Quite a statement...your logic makes no sense...I see why you don't bet SuperBowls....Sean P. an "X-Factor", give me a break....
Saint fan or no Saint fan...admit that these guys got their asses beaten everywhere except on the scoreboard last week...and in actuality, don't belong here...
And to think you're gonna see a "Colts -3 maybe 2" is the most insane SuperBowl comment I've seen anywhere!!
if this year has taught u anything its that trends and what has happened in the past means nothing. Saying no team coveres 6 points in SB s is a reason to take the Saints is totally ridiculas.
This year they told us how Coboys dont in in DEc, (they had the best Dec. in years) they told us they couldnt win a big game ,(they beat NO at home,they one a playoff game,) They told us no teams gonna beat the Eagles 3 times in 1 year ,(that was proven wrong) They told us the Pats never lose in playoffs at home 8-0( remember they were on the golf course before anyone) They said the Jets at 7-7 will never make the playoffs( they only played for the AFC championship)
If you want to compare the 2 teams honestly u ould pick the colts by 10.Last week everyone said how the Colts wouldnt cover 8.5 and the did. Jets D is better than the Saints ,Colts O line is been the key to peyton staying healthy all theses years . MR.Saturday might be the best center in the league for years. Do the Saints have anyone better the Clark? in that position. ? And what about there underated Def. take a look hat they have done last few weeks, If Reggie Kardashian drops the ball like he did last week The Colts will win by 20
For the Saints to stay in this game they would have tp play so much better than they did last week ,and the Colts would have to have to bsically overlook them for them to lose ,if the Colts are on there game the Saints will be saying WHO DAT all the way back to the bayou. Colts take this 31-21
if this year has taught u anything its that trends and what has happened in the past means nothing. Saying no team coveres 6 points in SB s is a reason to take the Saints is totally ridiculas.
This year they told us how Coboys dont in in DEc, (they had the best Dec. in years) they told us they couldnt win a big game ,(they beat NO at home,they one a playoff game,) They told us no teams gonna beat the Eagles 3 times in 1 year ,(that was proven wrong) They told us the Pats never lose in playoffs at home 8-0( remember they were on the golf course before anyone) They said the Jets at 7-7 will never make the playoffs( they only played for the AFC championship)
If you want to compare the 2 teams honestly u ould pick the colts by 10.Last week everyone said how the Colts wouldnt cover 8.5 and the did. Jets D is better than the Saints ,Colts O line is been the key to peyton staying healthy all theses years . MR.Saturday might be the best center in the league for years. Do the Saints have anyone better the Clark? in that position. ? And what about there underated Def. take a look hat they have done last few weeks, If Reggie Kardashian drops the ball like he did last week The Colts will win by 20
For the Saints to stay in this game they would have tp play so much better than they did last week ,and the Colts would have to have to bsically overlook them for them to lose ,if the Colts are on there game the Saints will be saying WHO DAT all the way back to the bayou. Colts take this 31-21
Since when has Sean peyton nad Drew Brees become elite people in the NFL ,they have done nothing yet.If they can beat the Colts (tall order) than they can start to be in the conversation Dont forget Saints fans your not in the sacred Dome this week .
Colts have done this before ,they know to make this very business like this week .Big advantage.
Like Ariz did with GB they left to much on the feild after there big win,I suspect Saints superbowl was last week ,The Vikings besides giving the game to them, (and still the Saints almost lost that game ) they also took alot out of them .. Any other QB but Farve would of ran the 4 or 5 yards in OT instead of forcing a pass ,which handed the Saints the game .
Since when has Sean peyton nad Drew Brees become elite people in the NFL ,they have done nothing yet.If they can beat the Colts (tall order) than they can start to be in the conversation Dont forget Saints fans your not in the sacred Dome this week .
Colts have done this before ,they know to make this very business like this week .Big advantage.
Like Ariz did with GB they left to much on the feild after there big win,I suspect Saints superbowl was last week ,The Vikings besides giving the game to them, (and still the Saints almost lost that game ) they also took alot out of them .. Any other QB but Farve would of ran the 4 or 5 yards in OT instead of forcing a pass ,which handed the Saints the game .
"You don't need luck when you have knowledge".
Quite a statement...your logic makes no sense...I see why you don't bet SuperBowls....Sean P. an "X-Factor", give me a break....
Saint fan or no Saint fan...admit that these guys got their asses beaten everywhere except on the scoreboard last week...and in actuality, don't belong here...
And to think you're gonna see a "Colts -3 maybe 2" is the most insane SuperBowl comment I've seen anywhere!!
Go ask Brett Farve who's ass got beaten in that game. I was there and witnessed a full out assult on Farve and he got his ass handed to him and don't thin that didn't come into play late in the game when he refused to run for the 5 yards he needed and instead threw one of his patented Farve mistakes. BTW last time I checked the only stat that matters is the final score 31-28 SAINTS !!! Vikings didn't give them the game , the SAINTS DEFENSE FORCED ALOT OF THOSE TURNOVERS AND THAT IS PART OF FOOTBALL..
"You don't need luck when you have knowledge".
Quite a statement...your logic makes no sense...I see why you don't bet SuperBowls....Sean P. an "X-Factor", give me a break....
Saint fan or no Saint fan...admit that these guys got their asses beaten everywhere except on the scoreboard last week...and in actuality, don't belong here...
And to think you're gonna see a "Colts -3 maybe 2" is the most insane SuperBowl comment I've seen anywhere!!
Go ask Brett Farve who's ass got beaten in that game. I was there and witnessed a full out assult on Farve and he got his ass handed to him and don't thin that didn't come into play late in the game when he refused to run for the 5 yards he needed and instead threw one of his patented Farve mistakes. BTW last time I checked the only stat that matters is the final score 31-28 SAINTS !!! Vikings didn't give them the game , the SAINTS DEFENSE FORCED ALOT OF THOSE TURNOVERS AND THAT IS PART OF FOOTBALL..
Go ask Brett Farve who's ass got beaten in that game. I was there and witnessed a full out assult on Farve and he got his ass handed to him and don't thin that didn't come into play late in the game when he refused to run for the 5 yards he needed and instead threw one of his patented Farve mistakes. BTW last time I checked the only stat that matters is the final score 31-28 SAINTS !!! Vikings didn't give them the game , the SAINTS DEFENSE FORCED ALOT OF THOSE TURNOVERS AND THAT IS PART OF FOOTBALL..
YEP FAVRE GOT BEATEN-UP NO DOUBT....BUT BEING YOU'RE AN ADMITTED SAINTS FAN, I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO ADMIT THE OBVIOUS. YEP THEY WON THE GAME. DID THEY DESERVE TO? HELL NO. LOOK AT EVERY STAT, T.O.P. YEP THEY WON. UNFORTUNATELY THE SUPER BOWL ISN'T BEING PLAYED ON THEIR FIELD. THEY'LL GET THEIR BUTTS HANDED TO THEM....AGAIN...
Go ask Brett Farve who's ass got beaten in that game. I was there and witnessed a full out assult on Farve and he got his ass handed to him and don't thin that didn't come into play late in the game when he refused to run for the 5 yards he needed and instead threw one of his patented Farve mistakes. BTW last time I checked the only stat that matters is the final score 31-28 SAINTS !!! Vikings didn't give them the game , the SAINTS DEFENSE FORCED ALOT OF THOSE TURNOVERS AND THAT IS PART OF FOOTBALL..
YEP FAVRE GOT BEATEN-UP NO DOUBT....BUT BEING YOU'RE AN ADMITTED SAINTS FAN, I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO ADMIT THE OBVIOUS. YEP THEY WON THE GAME. DID THEY DESERVE TO? HELL NO. LOOK AT EVERY STAT, T.O.P. YEP THEY WON. UNFORTUNATELY THE SUPER BOWL ISN'T BEING PLAYED ON THEIR FIELD. THEY'LL GET THEIR BUTTS HANDED TO THEM....AGAIN...
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