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BB...quick question....you leaning Steelers?
 
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i believe steve young was as good as Rodgers is.  Montana was the best. ..... warren moooonnnnn
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Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

BB...quick question....you leaning Steelers?

IMB, I am not for a few reasons:

1) Steelers late game on Sunday night (even their coach knows it is a disadvantage) against a physical KC team.
2) The video that was released was a distraction to a team that can't afford any.
3) The Patriots (imo) got their "bad game" out of the way. Sure they covered, but they were awful and a team with a good offense might have beaten them that night. They should be a lot sharper against the Steelers.
4) I can't trust Tomlin or Big Ben. They can be great, or they can suck.
5) Brady wants Goodell to hand him that trophy. It will be the ultimate revenge.

Do the Steelers have a chance of winning or covering? Of course they do. Too much talent on that team to say they don't. But I would like them a lot more if the factors I mentioned above were not at play.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


What Young said trumps everything as far as stats go. Brady is practically playing a different sport. The hits Montana and Young took, not to mention the fear of taking such hits, and the way defenses could play, etc... No way Brady would still be playing under those rules. He would have retired 5 years ago, with only 2-3 SB wins. 



Troy aikmen downplayed his concussions for retirement.  He played pre brady protection era and took a beating....Brady would have been carted off 5 years ago and Brian Hoyer would have been the patriots franchise quarterback
 
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Montana is 3rd behind Brady and Rodger, sorry look up his career stats.

Rodgers has benefited from a much stronger supporting cast and has played 4 less years than Brady.  Brady has done more with a far inferior supporting cast compared to either Montana or Rodgers, its not even close.


Brady career QBPR..............97.2
Montana career QBPR.......93.5

Brady better by 3.7

Now let's look at the era's...............

Montana's 1st SB win in 81, ave QBPR was 70.5
Montana 23 pts above AVE

Brady 1st SB win in 2001, ave QBPR was 76.6
Brady 20.6 pts above ave

Montana slightly better

But now look as the era continued, in the early 2000's they began enforcing defensive rough play and made it very easy to pass the ball.

Montana final year in SF ave QBPR was 73.3, QBPR rose by only 2.8 pts

Montana career ave is 20.2 pts better then ave 

2016 ave QBPR was 87.6 ave QBPR rose 11 pts.

Brady career QBPR was only 9.6 better then ave

Hands-down Montana was better because the era was so much harder to pass the ball.

Montana was easily better on the biggest stage the SB, his QBPR would completely crush Brady.
 
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Montana 1st SB win his QBPR was 88.5 ave WAS 70.5 = 17.9 better

Brady 1st SB win his QBPR was 86.5 ave was 76.6 = 9.9 better

Montana 2cd SB win his QBPR was 102.9 ave was 73.2 = 19.7

Brady 2cd SB win his QBPR was 85.6 ave was 76.6 = 9

Montana was better then Brady even playing in a harder time to pass, when Brady began to pass Montana was only when the league started enforcing rough defensive back play and made it almost impossible to play defense.,
 
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Ok, now subtract Jerry Rice from the equation and Montana = Phillip Rivers.
 
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Doing some quick math here

Montana pre-Rice = 177 passing yards per game
Montana + Rice = 240 passing yards per game

Montana pre-Rice = 1.2 TD per game
Montana + Rice = 1.6 TD per game

35% improvement in passing yards per game w/ Rice
33% improvement in TD's per game w/ Rice

NOW like I said many times before multiply all of Brady's stats by 1.3333 and you will have a monster of a GOAT and we wouldn't even be having this discussion about who is getting carted off of the field.



 
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The fact that the Antonio Brown situation is getting this much play within the media is hilarious. I'm actually surprised some in here think it's that big of a deal. 

I wonder what could be used more as bulletin board material? Antonio Brown's situation OR what Julia Edelman said? For those who must want to focus on the the steelers and what they are saying, here's basically what Edelman said: We'll, we don't do things like that here; I guess that's how they run things over there. This takes a stab at not only the players but the coaches and the organization as a whole. THAT would piss me off. It did for big ben for him to say, well, how we run things over here is 6 Lombardi trophies. Let's focus in the GAME people rather than worry about Goodell and social media. Some are buying right into the bs by taking our focus off of two great teams.
 
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Bellichick does not use SnapFace, non-issue.
 
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The point NYC, is that all of this clown car media crap is a non-issue. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:



Brady career QBPR..............97.2
Montana career QBPR.......93.5

Brady better by 3.7

Now let's look at the era's...............

Montana's 1st SB win in 81, ave QBPR was 70.5
Montana 23 pts above AVE

Brady 1st SB win in 2001, ave QBPR was 76.6
Brady 20.6 pts above ave

Montana slightly better

But now look as the era continued, in the early 2000's they began enforcing defensive rough play and made it very easy to pass the ball.

Montana final year in SF ave QBPR was 73.3, QBPR rose by only 2.8 pts

Montana career ave is 20.2 pts better then ave 

2016 ave QBPR was 87.6 ave QBPR rose 11 pts.

Brady career QBPR was only 9.6 better then ave

Hands-down Montana was better because the era was so much harder to pass the ball.

Montana was easily better on the biggest stage the SB, his QBPR would completely crush Brady.

Nice info Claw. Way to break it down. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

The point NYC, is that all of this clown car media crap is a non-issue. 

It is an issue. Brown has put the spotlight on himself, just as the Giant receivers did, and look how they wilted under the additional pressure of trying to prove that what they did was not a distraction. Brown will either atone or wilt under the pressure.
 
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.....easily the most arrogant too.
 
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I hear ya BB but what Edelman said was worse in my eyes. His direct shot at the entire Steelers organization was sad. insinuating that the Steelers are a poor run organization and that they condone that type of behavior was hypocrital. Edelman comes from a team that has been caught cheating and has been in the news for taking shortcuts from time to time. Whether it's all true or not, nobody knows but to open his mouth coming from that kind of environment....it was out of line and bs. He should have not said anything rather than put himself out there allowing the steelers their motivation. Again I think it's all fluff but if we are talking bout brown here, let's talk about Edelman.....

You really think brown wilts? You think the anxiety starts to mount? I have to laugh at that brotha. I respect ya man but really? If anything, I think the Steelers use it and the lack of prep time tomlin speaks of as motivation to overcome foxboro and the patriots in the AFC championship game. My opinion. I can say this though BB: Edelman better have his head on a swivel after his comments. 
 
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I hear ya BB but what Edelman said was worse in my eyes. His direct shot at the entire Steelers organization was sad. insinuating that the Steelers are a poor run organization and that they condone that type of behavior was hypocrital. Edelman comes from a team that has been caught cheating and has been in the news for taking shortcuts from time to time. Whether it's all true or not, nobody knows but to open his mouth coming from that kind of environment....it was out of line and bs. He should have not said anything rather than put himself out there allowing the steelers their motivation. Again I think it's all fluff but if we are talking bout brown here, let's talk about Edelman.....

You really think brown wilts? You think the anxiety starts to mount? I have to laugh at that brotha. I respect ya man but really? If anything, I think the Steelers use it and the lack of prep time tomlin speaks of as motivation to overcome foxboro and the patriots in the AFC championship game. My opinion. I can say this though BB: Edelman better have his head on a swivel after his comments
 
Listen here,, what Brown did was violate every man code and sports code.. what Edelman "said" NA.. Patriots in a route!
 
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"Listen here"..... you say..... Man code!? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Oh boy. I've heard it all now. Ya know what? I guess because Brown broke "man code" the patriots now win, correct fisherman? Let's not even play the game Sunday. This occurrence is the end all be all as to how the game will decided..... I'm truly baffled by your last post fisherman. Enjoy the game.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by plays4all:

I think Montana was better...although I've never seen him play.

I saw them both play and while Joe did not have some of the physical skills that some of these other QBs had, his edge was mental and between the ears. 

Brady is cerebral also and is a winner extraordinaire so he is great also but if I had one drive to win a game...I would pick Joe because he was 'the man'. 

Western Pennsylvania is known as the 'cradle of QBs' and all of these QBs came from a 50 mile radius of the city of Pittsburgh: 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


It is an issue. Brown has put the spotlight on himself, just as the Giant receivers did, and look how they wilted under the additional pressure of trying to prove that what they did was not a distraction. Brown will either atone or wilt under the pressure.

The only time I saw Antonio Brown wilt on the playing field was when he was covered by Richard Sherman a few years back...but then again there were at least two times I thought Brown was mugged and there was no flag. 
 
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rodgers isnt goat i guess
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sunster19:

rodgers isnt goat i guess

Yes, it his fault his receivers are dropping perfectly thrown balls today, his backs are fumbling and the DB's can't intercept balls thrown right into their breadbasket. That INT he threw was basically a punt (he was taking shot downfield knowing they would have to punt), so you can forget about that.
 
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so when receivers makes great catches its rodgers who is responsible, but when they lose its everyone but rodgers. got ya. anyways, nice capping. how did the lack of atlanta motivation go for you? how did the capping angle that the nfl/refs wanted GB in superbowl angle go for you?
 
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RYAN = MVP. No question.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

Terrific analysis BBBoy!

As usual, your nuggets of wisdom are too advanced for some to follow.

 
 
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More like nugget of misconception. Sorry.

If the Packers lost by 7 points then maybe you can say it could have gone either way but this is huge.
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