@unplucked_gem Why do you think he doesn’t include vig on his plays? It’s because he wants to inflates his stats to make it seem like he’s better than he actually is I wouldn’t be calling him out if he was just honest throughout
Well I think that math isn't his thing and presents a challenge, so it's easier to stick to whole numbers.
Honestly, the variance in lines and books is a lot. Added his volume, it becomes a pain to track / post / update. I personally think it's assumed and adjust ROI accordingly.
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Quote Originally Posted by spicycurry:
@unplucked_gem Why do you think he doesn’t include vig on his plays? It’s because he wants to inflates his stats to make it seem like he’s better than he actually is I wouldn’t be calling him out if he was just honest throughout
Well I think that math isn't his thing and presents a challenge, so it's easier to stick to whole numbers.
Honestly, the variance in lines and books is a lot. Added his volume, it becomes a pain to track / post / update. I personally think it's assumed and adjust ROI accordingly.
Math isn’t his thing? He easily calculated it with vig in his other post today… so why not do that for all posts?? Instead he wants to inflate his stats to make himself look better
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@unplucked_gem
Math isn’t his thing? He easily calculated it with vig in his other post today… so why not do that for all posts?? Instead he wants to inflate his stats to make himself look better
If you include vig, it’s more like +1 unit not that impressive hahahahah especially for all that talk that he does!!! See why this guy doesn’t include juice now? All he does is try to inflate his stats!
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@unplucked_gem
If you include vig, it’s more like +1 unit not that impressive hahahahah especially for all that talk that he does!!! See why this guy doesn’t include juice now? All he does is try to inflate his stats!
You guys are all suckers… Vanz Units are 10 g’s. That is his whole point. Once you have an edge just find multiple outlets and bet accordingly to how much you want to make. Easy money if you have an edge and balls
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You guys are all suckers… Vanz Units are 10 g’s. That is his whole point. Once you have an edge just find multiple outlets and bet accordingly to how much you want to make. Easy money if you have an edge and balls
Congrats on a great positive season and I wish you all the best in the post season.
To the folks bashing vanzack - let's go thru this:
1. He gives his picks for free - he's going to have a positive year - no matter what happens in the post season.
2. He post his record - who cares about the vig. "he's trying to inflate his stats" - that shows how immature and in-secure you are with yourself. If he was hovering around 50/50 - connect dots and yes with the vig he's probably losing - but you wouldn't be reading his thread anyways.
3. It takes a lot of effort to pick winners - it's not shazam - here you go people - there's a lot of effort that goes into this- as I put a lot of effort into it myself.
4. When you put effort forth and your successful with your methodology of course you gain confidence. He conveys his info. for free once again and you interpret it as condescending or an ego thing. Once again this highlights insecurities with your own self. Trying to bring someone down at any turn indicates you got your own issues .
5. When you talk about vig, vig , vig - it's you trying to stroke your own ego vice doing your own math and knocking someone down who once again is giving you picks for free.
6. We all have an ego - some uses it positively to convey info. to help others out and others use it negatively to bring folks down.
7. Einstein said - don't seek to be successful - seek to be valuable. Vanzack is trying to do just that. The bashers - i would pause and seriously look in the mirror and assess your self security and ego issues.
BOL Vanzack - I always enjoy reading your posts.
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@vanzack
Congrats on a great positive season and I wish you all the best in the post season.
To the folks bashing vanzack - let's go thru this:
1. He gives his picks for free - he's going to have a positive year - no matter what happens in the post season.
2. He post his record - who cares about the vig. "he's trying to inflate his stats" - that shows how immature and in-secure you are with yourself. If he was hovering around 50/50 - connect dots and yes with the vig he's probably losing - but you wouldn't be reading his thread anyways.
3. It takes a lot of effort to pick winners - it's not shazam - here you go people - there's a lot of effort that goes into this- as I put a lot of effort into it myself.
4. When you put effort forth and your successful with your methodology of course you gain confidence. He conveys his info. for free once again and you interpret it as condescending or an ego thing. Once again this highlights insecurities with your own self. Trying to bring someone down at any turn indicates you got your own issues .
5. When you talk about vig, vig , vig - it's you trying to stroke your own ego vice doing your own math and knocking someone down who once again is giving you picks for free.
6. We all have an ego - some uses it positively to convey info. to help others out and others use it negatively to bring folks down.
7. Einstein said - don't seek to be successful - seek to be valuable. Vanzack is trying to do just that. The bashers - i would pause and seriously look in the mirror and assess your self security and ego issues.
@vanzack Congrats on a great positive season and I wish you all the best in the post season. To the folks bashing vanzack - let's go thru this: 1. He gives his picks for free - he's going to have a positive year - no matter what happens in the post season. 2. He post his record - who cares about the vig. "he's trying to inflate his stats" - that shows how immature and in-secure you are with yourself. If he was hovering around 50/50 - connect dots and yes with the vig he's probably losing - but you wouldn't be reading his thread anyways. 3. It takes a lot of effort to pick winners - it's not shazam - here you go people - there's a lot of effort that goes into this- as I put a lot of effort into it myself. 4. When you put effort forth and your successful with your methodology of course you gain confidence. He conveys his info. for free once again and you interpret it as condescending or an ego thing. Once again this highlights insecurities with your own self. Trying to bring someone down at any turn indicates you got your own issues . 5. When you talk about vig, vig , vig - it's you trying to stroke your own ego vice doing your own math and knocking someone down who once again is giving you picks for free. 6. We all have an ego - some uses it positively to convey info. to help others out and others use it negatively to bring folks down. 7. Einstein said - don't seek to be successful - seek to be valuable. Vanzack is trying to do just that. The bashers - i would pause and seriously look in the mirror and assess your self security and ego issues. BOL Vanzack - I always enjoy reading your posts.
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Quote Originally Posted by TheBuddah:
@vanzack Congrats on a great positive season and I wish you all the best in the post season. To the folks bashing vanzack - let's go thru this: 1. He gives his picks for free - he's going to have a positive year - no matter what happens in the post season. 2. He post his record - who cares about the vig. "he's trying to inflate his stats" - that shows how immature and in-secure you are with yourself. If he was hovering around 50/50 - connect dots and yes with the vig he's probably losing - but you wouldn't be reading his thread anyways. 3. It takes a lot of effort to pick winners - it's not shazam - here you go people - there's a lot of effort that goes into this- as I put a lot of effort into it myself. 4. When you put effort forth and your successful with your methodology of course you gain confidence. He conveys his info. for free once again and you interpret it as condescending or an ego thing. Once again this highlights insecurities with your own self. Trying to bring someone down at any turn indicates you got your own issues . 5. When you talk about vig, vig , vig - it's you trying to stroke your own ego vice doing your own math and knocking someone down who once again is giving you picks for free. 6. We all have an ego - some uses it positively to convey info. to help others out and others use it negatively to bring folks down. 7. Einstein said - don't seek to be successful - seek to be valuable. Vanzack is trying to do just that. The bashers - i would pause and seriously look in the mirror and assess your self security and ego issues. BOL Vanzack - I always enjoy reading your posts.
I don’t think you understand a few things about vanzack
no.1- the bets that he posts on covers are not necessarily his actual bets. They are somewhat of a recommendation to the average gambler.
no.2- part of this concept is that he is trying to show people how to pay less juice. As he has said many times, he doesn’t always post the best lines for the games BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR THEM. Instead he posts lines that are shopped around for/ lines with less juice. The purpose of his paying less juice is for long term success.
no.3- why would he need to inflate his stats? There’s a guy on covers (pussygalore?) that has tailed vans picks all year, paid -110 juice, and still made a shit ton of profit.
Many on covers follow him closely. He has provided years worth of golden advice. Instead of tracking his record, pay attention and learn something.
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@spicycurry
I don’t think you understand a few things about vanzack
no.1- the bets that he posts on covers are not necessarily his actual bets. They are somewhat of a recommendation to the average gambler.
no.2- part of this concept is that he is trying to show people how to pay less juice. As he has said many times, he doesn’t always post the best lines for the games BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR THEM. Instead he posts lines that are shopped around for/ lines with less juice. The purpose of his paying less juice is for long term success.
no.3- why would he need to inflate his stats? There’s a guy on covers (pussygalore?) that has tailed vans picks all year, paid -110 juice, and still made a shit ton of profit.
Many on covers follow him closely. He has provided years worth of golden advice. Instead of tracking his record, pay attention and learn something.
It’s not just that his takes or picks suck, it’s his condescending “I’m better than you” tone. Very fucking annoying tagged with I don’t pay juice
BET2WIN4, you don't deserve to win money betting on sports. I don't detect a condescending tone from Vanzack. What I detect is that his intellect leaves you feeling inferior, and that bothers you. Hey, his intellect sometimes leaves me feeling inferior, too, but I don't mind. I like to learn from him. I've been learning from him for twenty damn years now!
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Quote Originally Posted by BET2WIN4:
It’s not just that his takes or picks suck, it’s his condescending “I’m better than you” tone. Very fucking annoying tagged with I don’t pay juice
BET2WIN4, you don't deserve to win money betting on sports. I don't detect a condescending tone from Vanzack. What I detect is that his intellect leaves you feeling inferior, and that bothers you. Hey, his intellect sometimes leaves me feeling inferior, too, but I don't mind. I like to learn from him. I've been learning from him for twenty damn years now!
@BET2WIN4 THIS EXACTLY!! Hit it right on the spot, Vanzack totally thinks he’s better than everyone and then doesn’t include juice, in reality he’s just an average joe
Like BET2WIN4, you're trying so hard to wish Vanzack down a few notches because you can't stand how far he is above you. And if he's "just an average joe", then what the hell does that make the rest of us??
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Quote Originally Posted by spicycurry:
@BET2WIN4 THIS EXACTLY!! Hit it right on the spot, Vanzack totally thinks he’s better than everyone and then doesn’t include juice, in reality he’s just an average joe
Like BET2WIN4, you're trying so hard to wish Vanzack down a few notches because you can't stand how far he is above you. And if he's "just an average joe", then what the hell does that make the rest of us??
Hey Covas Brothas.. can't WE ALL just Play Nice..this OP is A TOTAL asset to this forum, even TRAIN...lol.. Let's JUST get along..Please.. it's pretty Easy.. DON'T HATE, APPRECIATE
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Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:
Hey Covas Brothas.. can't WE ALL just Play Nice..this OP is A TOTAL asset to this forum, even TRAIN...lol.. Let's JUST get along..Please.. it's pretty Easy.. DON'T HATE, APPRECIATE
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