All the Leaf haters here in this forum

Johnny....the Devils looked like the Lowell Devils of the AHL and have for the past 10 games or so....they do this every year!

They looked so bad last night I was at a loss for words.

Without Paul Martin and Clarkson, this team loses alot.

The Diablos were LUCKY to ESCAPE with those two points on home ice last Friday night.....

That's not true...Parise could have scored 5 or 6 that game. He made them look silly....and then yesterday was a no-show.

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I was very choked about White being sent out, Hagman, Mayers I really couldn't give a...  White being the only + D man on the Leafs said alot to me, especially with his style of play, jumping into rushes and the perfect trailing man. 

I watch the Flames closely and haven't been impressed with Phaneuf at all this year, lol ever since Avery made a crack about his woman he's been shit.  That being said look at his last few coaches, Keenan and Sutter...could you have two bigger stone face'd pricks behind the bench, and it's true if they don't like you, life is gonna suck. 

I think getting traded was the best thing that could happen to Phaneuf and I think he'll shine as a Leaf, yeah he had some give aways last night but at least he gave the team a bit of an edge, a chip on his shoulder and if they lose it won't be without a hard nosed effort out of him.  I think Wilson will work great with him and get him back on track as a premier D man in the league.   Loads of talent and grit just needs his head put back on straight.  

Freddie Sjostrom will make an big impact on this team where they need it most, the PK... As well establish a role player system that is needed on ANY team that plans on winning hockey games.  The Leafs have to get away from the plug-n-play guys they've had for years, use players for their strengths and establish roles on this hockey team.

The Giguere trade is a no brainer move, get rid of Blake's contract, and Toskala who has under achieved since day one... Giguere is a great position tender who has had problems with the staff in Anaheim for quite some time now, if you don't think it affected his play your crazy.   He's reunited with his former goalie coach Francois Allaire  who was with him at his best days in Anaheim.  You won't see him give up rebounds, he'll be a calming factor for the troubled Leafs D and in my opinion will be the most noticible improvement out of all. 

Burke gets an A- on these deals....would be an A+ if he had some picks coming over as well.

Sure and if the Leafs had of had an actual NHL goaltender in net maybe they would have shut them out that night as well...Plus the Devils got some serious calls go their way in that game IMO....No leaf fan here but not a good sign when your team craps the bed late like that against an inferior opponent only to be bailed out by the refs.......Can't believe I am here arguing for the Leafs with what precious time I have.......I am outta here... 

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Hey Hunt great thread Bud you know i'm not a hater. This trade could workout for both teams IMO Phaneuf won't be missed much in Cal with the D they have. I just don't want to hear about Giguere being a solid netminder now that he's with TOR. Ya he got the S.O. but he sure wasn't tested even if they had 30 shots not many were top quality. If i had a dollar for everytime I heard a capper in this forum say I don't like ANA tonight because Giguere is starting i'de be RICH. Anyway Hunt good to see you again BUD.

Atleast TOR got in the Win column last night my Bruins I don't know anymore.

Sending guys like Finger to the minors will help free up cap space. Expect them to go this route.

Those two have been out forever. They started to suck the minute Elias was carried of on a stretcher.

How does Phaneuf make 6.5?

Has one of the highest giveaway/takeaway ratios in the league, especially for D-men.  Has one of the lowest block shots totals amongst D-men. Locker room cancer.

That's the real question.

Elias hasn;t been there even close to all season....nor has he been over past couple of years...injury riddled.

No Paul Martin means nobody on the point that can accurately get the puck to the net.  You notice the Devils cycle tons and always use their pointment.   Last night they tried, but the D-men's shots were either blocked, weak or wide of the net.

Clarkson is more an emotional leader than anything.  Elias hurts more in the offensive columns.

They are just in a slump....every team goes through it. 

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maybe you should start and mellow out........your bias is blatently obvious.   I don't care if he turned the puck over 75 times - he brought an attitude to the team that was lacking big time....and that new spirit was reflective by the play of the entire team.  The key is changing the environment...........Bill Polian, the Super Bowl general manager, told Brian Burke when he took over the Maple Leafs that the hardest thing to do in sports is alter the culture of any team. For a year and some, Burke has been stewing about altering the Leafs culture of entitlement with a hockey team that’s seem satisfied going nowhere.

The success isn't measured in turning the puck over 6 times.  Take a pill.

Hey Kid...Believe me a know the Leafs still have a ton of work to do to become respectable but for the haters to say that these deals are horrible for the Leafs is the reason I started this thread. They got rid of alot of dead wood and still have more to go.

As far as your Bruins, they have all their players back now and just need to get their legs back, win a few and get some confidence. You guys are going to get a hell of a player from us in the upcoming draft...no two ways about it.

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