Cats v Hawks

that's true and although I can't give you any proof at all other than my word which counts for fuck 0 on the net, I did bet Collingwood in last year's preliminary final on the basis of the things I was hearing coming out of the club going into that match and was fortunate the game was over at quarter time. I'd still be willing to lose money if it meant my time wins though

Nah but seriously Geelong are in better shape than I have ever seen them and we are gonna square off against a team that I still rate as a better well-rounded team than Geelong. I still firmly think that Geelong have a better depth of more talented better/athletes than what Collingwood do. What is making Geelong an even money bet for the flag in 2011 is their change of game style which was constantly taking risks through the middle of the ground, over hand-balling for very little ground coverage, contested pack marking was hurt because of the handball style and the loss of Ablett has allowed Geelong to play a very exciting youngster in 'Bundy' Christensen who has really added an extra grunt factor in the centre. Collingwood have a brilliant midfield in Pendlebury (deceptively tall at 6ft 3), Thomas (top 10 player in the comp), Swan and Luke Ball who I believe has been their most consistent and physical player for the past 18 months. Geelong though have one of the best midfield's with Mitch Duncan who has burst onto the scene and he kicks goals and takes a contested mark which is very hard to find in a midfield player these days. Corey, Selwood, Kelly and Bartel as good as it gets. Gonna be a cracking final series but I can't see either Collingwood or Geelong getting knocked early