Ok, i guess this means we're going to do this again. i'm a little more informed today than i was last week, but again, this is the least prepared i've ever been for an nfl season. part of it is i just haven't been paying as much attention and the other part is obviously we just haven't had as much to work with this preseason.
in any case, last season was another good season. we've never had a season under .500 with these picks. that will definitely be tested this season. but we have had seasons near .500 which are losing seasons betting wise so there are never any guarantees here. i will try to get some info up on the matchups every tuesday or so. there will come a time, probably in october when i'm not able to do it for a week or two. but, as always, we should have plenty of contributors offering helpful information each week.
also, my saturdays are going to be busier than usual. i'm sure i'll have some early bets going this season, but most of my picks won't be up until close to the early games start time.
as always, everyone should feel free to make comments, harass anyone, make picks, don't make picks. whatever you want to do nfl related (soccer too, of course).
i don't have a great feeling going into this season, but you never know. my process won't change. among other things, i'll look at the matchups on pinnacle, set what i think the line should be and then compare that to what it is. since i still have some more reading to do, i'll go through these matchups, but may not have much to say.
however there are teams i expect to be underrated and overrated and i'll mention that here.
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Ok, i guess this means we're going to do this again. i'm a little more informed today than i was last week, but again, this is the least prepared i've ever been for an nfl season. part of it is i just haven't been paying as much attention and the other part is obviously we just haven't had as much to work with this preseason.
in any case, last season was another good season. we've never had a season under .500 with these picks. that will definitely be tested this season. but we have had seasons near .500 which are losing seasons betting wise so there are never any guarantees here. i will try to get some info up on the matchups every tuesday or so. there will come a time, probably in october when i'm not able to do it for a week or two. but, as always, we should have plenty of contributors offering helpful information each week.
also, my saturdays are going to be busier than usual. i'm sure i'll have some early bets going this season, but most of my picks won't be up until close to the early games start time.
as always, everyone should feel free to make comments, harass anyone, make picks, don't make picks. whatever you want to do nfl related (soccer too, of course).
i don't have a great feeling going into this season, but you never know. my process won't change. among other things, i'll look at the matchups on pinnacle, set what i think the line should be and then compare that to what it is. since i still have some more reading to do, i'll go through these matchups, but may not have much to say.
however there are teams i expect to be underrated and overrated and i'll mention that here.
also, did know that they added an extra team for the playoffs? i'm not sure i did. is that permanent or something they are trying out this year? it doesn't matter now and it is going to give the #1 seed a huge advantage but it should make weeks 16 and 17 more interesting from a betting perspective.
that brings up another point. i may say somethings that are just wrong. i may have missed players moving to different teams. if you see something that is wrong, let me know.
Houston @ KC -9 i think a big advantage will go to teams that bring back most of their team. KC doesn't need an advantage but they definitely get one there. houston lost hopkins which i think will have a major impact on that team. the defense isn't great again. i said 7.5. it's 9, which seems a little high since watson can keep houston in the game, but starting the season betting against the KC offense probably isn't the way to go. KC is probably the worst team to play in week one when you had no preseason.
Miami @ NE -6.5 two interesting teams this season. miami should be better. i like their rebuilding plan. they'll get a few more wins and possibly be ready to chalenge for the division next season if they have a legit QB. NE is going to have problems, not just the obvious but i think on defense as well. also, if they have a QB, they could still win the division this season since there is still talent and they still have the coaching. if people are thinking this is automatically a bad team now, they will be wrong unless the QB is trash. could be some value with this team. i'll say 3.5 here. 6.5 seems a little high. miami is well coached and plays hard. NE is a huge question mark. maybe some value on miami.
Cleveland @ Shrimp -7.5 i'm sorry to report that some people i like think the shrimp are right there with KC as one of the best teams in the afc. they do look solid if jackson can continue to improve. cleveland looks like they should have a very good offense but pretty bad defense. this should be a tough way to start the season with a weak defense. and the offense should need some time to get going, if mayfield continues to improve. i'll say 8. it's 7.5 looks about right.
NYJ @ Buffalo -6.5 buffalo seems to be the favorite to finally take over this division. they have a very strong roster. QB is the big question mark. the jets should be horrible, as usual. i'm not sure their qb will ever make it to the next level. i don't trust the buffalo qb and offense enough to lay a lot of points with them, but this should be a good opportunity to make a statement in their division with a relatively easy game at home. i'll say 6.5. and that's where it is. lean to buffalo.
LV @ Carolina - las vegas raiders? who the f*ck is that? anyway, i do expect to see some improvement from the raiders as grudin gets more players to fit his style. not sure about the defense still though. carolina looks like a mess. questionable QB, lost some talent, had major issues last season. probably the team that needed a preseason more than anyone. this team could be anywhere to below average to really bad, in my opinion. the raiders really can't be road favorites, so i'll guess carolina even. never mind. i guess the market agrees. i like the raiders here but do we realy want to start the season betting the raiders as a road favorite of 3?
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also, did know that they added an extra team for the playoffs? i'm not sure i did. is that permanent or something they are trying out this year? it doesn't matter now and it is going to give the #1 seed a huge advantage but it should make weeks 16 and 17 more interesting from a betting perspective.
that brings up another point. i may say somethings that are just wrong. i may have missed players moving to different teams. if you see something that is wrong, let me know.
Houston @ KC -9 i think a big advantage will go to teams that bring back most of their team. KC doesn't need an advantage but they definitely get one there. houston lost hopkins which i think will have a major impact on that team. the defense isn't great again. i said 7.5. it's 9, which seems a little high since watson can keep houston in the game, but starting the season betting against the KC offense probably isn't the way to go. KC is probably the worst team to play in week one when you had no preseason.
Miami @ NE -6.5 two interesting teams this season. miami should be better. i like their rebuilding plan. they'll get a few more wins and possibly be ready to chalenge for the division next season if they have a legit QB. NE is going to have problems, not just the obvious but i think on defense as well. also, if they have a QB, they could still win the division this season since there is still talent and they still have the coaching. if people are thinking this is automatically a bad team now, they will be wrong unless the QB is trash. could be some value with this team. i'll say 3.5 here. 6.5 seems a little high. miami is well coached and plays hard. NE is a huge question mark. maybe some value on miami.
Cleveland @ Shrimp -7.5 i'm sorry to report that some people i like think the shrimp are right there with KC as one of the best teams in the afc. they do look solid if jackson can continue to improve. cleveland looks like they should have a very good offense but pretty bad defense. this should be a tough way to start the season with a weak defense. and the offense should need some time to get going, if mayfield continues to improve. i'll say 8. it's 7.5 looks about right.
NYJ @ Buffalo -6.5 buffalo seems to be the favorite to finally take over this division. they have a very strong roster. QB is the big question mark. the jets should be horrible, as usual. i'm not sure their qb will ever make it to the next level. i don't trust the buffalo qb and offense enough to lay a lot of points with them, but this should be a good opportunity to make a statement in their division with a relatively easy game at home. i'll say 6.5. and that's where it is. lean to buffalo.
LV @ Carolina - las vegas raiders? who the f*ck is that? anyway, i do expect to see some improvement from the raiders as grudin gets more players to fit his style. not sure about the defense still though. carolina looks like a mess. questionable QB, lost some talent, had major issues last season. probably the team that needed a preseason more than anyone. this team could be anywhere to below average to really bad, in my opinion. the raiders really can't be road favorites, so i'll guess carolina even. never mind. i guess the market agrees. i like the raiders here but do we realy want to start the season betting the raiders as a road favorite of 3?
Seattle @ Atlanta +2 should be another great offensive team with questionable defensive team with atlanta. seattle should be their usual team as well, although i keep expecting their defense to suffer. the atlanta offense should be ready to hit the ground running. this looks like a tough way to start for seattle who usually needs time to figure out their offense since they don't ever seem to know how to best use wilson. i'll guess settle -1.5. it's 2. lean to atlanta.
Philly @ Washington +6 philly should be solid if healthy. that means wentz needs to be healthy and he needs receivers. that didn't happen last season and they really struggled. and washington won't be good but they have a scary DL so if philly is still figuring out their passing game, this may not go well for them. washington has a much bigger question at QB. their offense should be pretty bad and i don't see them doing much in this game. philly should win unless the washington defense can get the advantage over a questionable philly offense, which is certainly possible. i'll guess philly -3. wow, 6 seems high for a team that struggled on offense last year and is starting on the road. lean to washington.
Chicago @ Detroit -3 i think both teams will be decent. detroit should have a very good offense if stafford is healthy, which he usually is. the defense will be suspect as always. chicago depends a lot on trubisky and that's hard to predict each week. i think detroit has the advantage here at home with stafford and this offense in a season with no preseason. might be able tog et a decent line since no one ever likes detroit. i'll say detroit -2. damn, it's 3. you can't give more than 3 here but i'd still consider it at 3.
Indy @ Jax +7.5 indy should be a playoff team if rivers holds up. rivers should like playing behind a real OL for a change. he could be good or he might just be too old. we'll find out. otherwise, indy is good but not great but should be good enough to get to the playoffs. Jax is in full rebuild mode which is the right thing to do. i don't love taking road favorites, especially this week, but indy has the advantage all over the place here. i'l say 4.5. wow, 7.5 is a big spread for a road favorite in week one. lean to Jax at that number.
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Seattle @ Atlanta +2 should be another great offensive team with questionable defensive team with atlanta. seattle should be their usual team as well, although i keep expecting their defense to suffer. the atlanta offense should be ready to hit the ground running. this looks like a tough way to start for seattle who usually needs time to figure out their offense since they don't ever seem to know how to best use wilson. i'll guess settle -1.5. it's 2. lean to atlanta.
Philly @ Washington +6 philly should be solid if healthy. that means wentz needs to be healthy and he needs receivers. that didn't happen last season and they really struggled. and washington won't be good but they have a scary DL so if philly is still figuring out their passing game, this may not go well for them. washington has a much bigger question at QB. their offense should be pretty bad and i don't see them doing much in this game. philly should win unless the washington defense can get the advantage over a questionable philly offense, which is certainly possible. i'll guess philly -3. wow, 6 seems high for a team that struggled on offense last year and is starting on the road. lean to washington.
Chicago @ Detroit -3 i think both teams will be decent. detroit should have a very good offense if stafford is healthy, which he usually is. the defense will be suspect as always. chicago depends a lot on trubisky and that's hard to predict each week. i think detroit has the advantage here at home with stafford and this offense in a season with no preseason. might be able tog et a decent line since no one ever likes detroit. i'll say detroit -2. damn, it's 3. you can't give more than 3 here but i'd still consider it at 3.
Indy @ Jax +7.5 indy should be a playoff team if rivers holds up. rivers should like playing behind a real OL for a change. he could be good or he might just be too old. we'll find out. otherwise, indy is good but not great but should be good enough to get to the playoffs. Jax is in full rebuild mode which is the right thing to do. i don't love taking road favorites, especially this week, but indy has the advantage all over the place here. i'l say 4.5. wow, 7.5 is a big spread for a road favorite in week one. lean to Jax at that number.
GB @ Minnesota -2.5 huge game to start the season. minn is the better team and should win at home. but huge game with no preseason, this spread should probably be 3. i can see 3.5. interesting pinnacle has it at 2.5. that's saying GB is clearly the better team, or at least more prepared this week. i'm not sure i see that but this line kind of scares me.
Chargers @ Cincy +3 i think we can definitely shut the door on the chargers window to make a run in the playoffs. questionable qb, major injury on defense, questionable coaching. this team was really good for a few years but had bad luck and lost too many close games and were unfortunately good when KC was great. they still have talent but i think they'll be battling the other 3 for second place and might end up in 4th. cincy should be much better but it might take a while to get there. like carolina, i think they are really disadvantaged by no preseason. it's an interesting line prediction. this is still the bengals and they aren't ever favorites over average teams. but this is also a tyrod taylor offense with a bad OL going on the road. i'll say chargers -2.it's 3. not crazy but cincy might be worth a look as a home dog that can easily win this game.
AZ @ SF -7 another huge game for week one. SF should be the favorite to win their division but AZ could be very good with some nice additions and if murray gets better. AZ is going to be a tough opponent for a lot of teams. not sure they are ready to beat SF on the road, but i think there are going to be some surprises this week. some teams will definitely be more ready to play than others. AZ might be a good underdog here if the line is high enough. SF was -10 at home and -10.5 at AZ late in the season last year. AZ should be better. i'll guess 8.5. only 7. i guess people agree that this is a tighter matchup than last season. i was hoping to take AZ here and still might but 7 is much lower than that second SF/AZ last season and i'm not sure that much of a difference is warranted.
TB @ NO -3.5 we'll see what the line is but i'm not sure i'm buying TB this season. i get the public love for them, but brady is old, gronk was hurt and took a year off and this team is going to need some time to get it together, if they ever do. the offense could be great if brady plays well. and the defense was really good to end the season. this could be a super bowl team is everything comes together. i'm just not sure it will. and if it does, i don't think it happens for a while and then you have to wonder if brady can really play a full season at his age. NO should be fine from day one, although brees ain't getting any younger either. i just think NO can protect brees from an age perspective better than TB can protect brady. TB needs brady to win this division. NO can use hill and they have weapons and the coaching to give brees a break. but for this week, NO should be ready to go. TB may need some time. i'll guess 5. 3.5 definitely gives TB a premium. lean to NO.
Dallas @ Rams +3 rams should be pretty average this season. they'll beat up on some bad teams but will struggle against teams with good defenses and their defense isn't good enough to shut other teams down. dallas should have a very good offense, but i'm not sure their defense holds up. i'm sure dallas will be a popular team this season and a popular play here but i don't trust their defense on the road in game one. maybe a team total over here. i need to find a team where i bet the team total over a lot, like TB last season. maybe dallas or cleveland. anyway, i'll say dallas -2.5. 3 is fair.
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GB @ Minnesota -2.5 huge game to start the season. minn is the better team and should win at home. but huge game with no preseason, this spread should probably be 3. i can see 3.5. interesting pinnacle has it at 2.5. that's saying GB is clearly the better team, or at least more prepared this week. i'm not sure i see that but this line kind of scares me.
Chargers @ Cincy +3 i think we can definitely shut the door on the chargers window to make a run in the playoffs. questionable qb, major injury on defense, questionable coaching. this team was really good for a few years but had bad luck and lost too many close games and were unfortunately good when KC was great. they still have talent but i think they'll be battling the other 3 for second place and might end up in 4th. cincy should be much better but it might take a while to get there. like carolina, i think they are really disadvantaged by no preseason. it's an interesting line prediction. this is still the bengals and they aren't ever favorites over average teams. but this is also a tyrod taylor offense with a bad OL going on the road. i'll say chargers -2.it's 3. not crazy but cincy might be worth a look as a home dog that can easily win this game.
AZ @ SF -7 another huge game for week one. SF should be the favorite to win their division but AZ could be very good with some nice additions and if murray gets better. AZ is going to be a tough opponent for a lot of teams. not sure they are ready to beat SF on the road, but i think there are going to be some surprises this week. some teams will definitely be more ready to play than others. AZ might be a good underdog here if the line is high enough. SF was -10 at home and -10.5 at AZ late in the season last year. AZ should be better. i'll guess 8.5. only 7. i guess people agree that this is a tighter matchup than last season. i was hoping to take AZ here and still might but 7 is much lower than that second SF/AZ last season and i'm not sure that much of a difference is warranted.
TB @ NO -3.5 we'll see what the line is but i'm not sure i'm buying TB this season. i get the public love for them, but brady is old, gronk was hurt and took a year off and this team is going to need some time to get it together, if they ever do. the offense could be great if brady plays well. and the defense was really good to end the season. this could be a super bowl team is everything comes together. i'm just not sure it will. and if it does, i don't think it happens for a while and then you have to wonder if brady can really play a full season at his age. NO should be fine from day one, although brees ain't getting any younger either. i just think NO can protect brees from an age perspective better than TB can protect brady. TB needs brady to win this division. NO can use hill and they have weapons and the coaching to give brees a break. but for this week, NO should be ready to go. TB may need some time. i'll guess 5. 3.5 definitely gives TB a premium. lean to NO.
Dallas @ Rams +3 rams should be pretty average this season. they'll beat up on some bad teams but will struggle against teams with good defenses and their defense isn't good enough to shut other teams down. dallas should have a very good offense, but i'm not sure their defense holds up. i'm sure dallas will be a popular team this season and a popular play here but i don't trust their defense on the road in game one. maybe a team total over here. i need to find a team where i bet the team total over a lot, like TB last season. maybe dallas or cleveland. anyway, i'll say dallas -2.5. 3 is fair.
Pitt @ NYG +6 i hate the two mnf games, and this one is trash. the giants will be bad this season. pitt should be pretty good if roethlisberger is healthy. no reason to think pitt shouldn't win other than the qb situation. i'll say pitt -5. it's 6. probably won't take a road favorite with a qb who hasn't played in a year but in normal times, pitt wins by 7 or more.
Tenn @ Denver +1 i like tenn every season and this one is no different. i think they are solid up and down and should make the playoffs again. not so sure about denver. i know people like them because lock was pretty good last season, but i'm not sure how much that carries over into a full season. denver should be fine, but tenn is better and should be able to start this season well. i'll guess tenn -2.5. only 1. not bad value on tenn.
that should be everyone. only a could stand out, but that's normal for week one since people have been betting these lines for so long. i'm sure we'll be able to find some bets here but probably nothing before sunday.
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Pitt @ NYG +6 i hate the two mnf games, and this one is trash. the giants will be bad this season. pitt should be pretty good if roethlisberger is healthy. no reason to think pitt shouldn't win other than the qb situation. i'll say pitt -5. it's 6. probably won't take a road favorite with a qb who hasn't played in a year but in normal times, pitt wins by 7 or more.
Tenn @ Denver +1 i like tenn every season and this one is no different. i think they are solid up and down and should make the playoffs again. not so sure about denver. i know people like them because lock was pretty good last season, but i'm not sure how much that carries over into a full season. denver should be fine, but tenn is better and should be able to start this season well. i'll guess tenn -2.5. only 1. not bad value on tenn.
that should be everyone. only a could stand out, but that's normal for week one since people have been betting these lines for so long. i'm sure we'll be able to find some bets here but probably nothing before sunday.
so you have to figure that there will be some upsets and some strange scores with teams going into week one with so little of the normal preparation. i might change my opinion as we get closer to sunday, but
Lines that I think are too high:
KC -9
NE -6.5
LV -3
Philly -6
Indy -7.5
Lines I think are too low
SF -7
NO -3.5
Lines that make no sense to me:
Minn -2.5
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so you have to figure that there will be some upsets and some strange scores with teams going into week one with so little of the normal preparation. i might change my opinion as we get closer to sunday, but
I understand you still have a surplus of Nick Foles Jaguar jerseys from last year. Please don't send one.
I'm hoping to get -3 on the Saints for security, but I don't mind betting them at 3.5 or 4 at all. Tampa should be fine long term, but New Orleans will be in "king of the hill" mode for week 1.
The Indy line is not too high. To the contrary it should be 13.
I agree that Carolina might be a live dog. No reason to be laying points on the road with the Raiders unless they're playing the Jags.
Detroit is my one longshot to win a division. Everybody debates GB, Minny or Chicago but the Lions are the sharp bet.
Can't wait to see the Patriots with Fig Newton. I mean really, I'm so curious to see how this works. I'd bet on the better than advertised Pats than not.
Cinci has way too much pre season hype because of Burrow and the offensive skill guys around him. They'll suck as usual.
Taking the Redskins +6 looks sharp. Philly is very out of sorts to start the season, and Ron Rivera is a strong leader of bad football players.
I like Houston on Thursday but am wary of the +9.5 bet I played on them. KC is just so damn scary, the way the Patriots used to be.
And finally some coffee table chat : The Shrimps play in a purple stadium. Why isn't Barney the Dinosaur their mascot ?
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I understand you still have a surplus of Nick Foles Jaguar jerseys from last year. Please don't send one.
I'm hoping to get -3 on the Saints for security, but I don't mind betting them at 3.5 or 4 at all. Tampa should be fine long term, but New Orleans will be in "king of the hill" mode for week 1.
The Indy line is not too high. To the contrary it should be 13.
I agree that Carolina might be a live dog. No reason to be laying points on the road with the Raiders unless they're playing the Jags.
Detroit is my one longshot to win a division. Everybody debates GB, Minny or Chicago but the Lions are the sharp bet.
Can't wait to see the Patriots with Fig Newton. I mean really, I'm so curious to see how this works. I'd bet on the better than advertised Pats than not.
Cinci has way too much pre season hype because of Burrow and the offensive skill guys around him. They'll suck as usual.
Taking the Redskins +6 looks sharp. Philly is very out of sorts to start the season, and Ron Rivera is a strong leader of bad football players.
I like Houston on Thursday but am wary of the +9.5 bet I played on them. KC is just so damn scary, the way the Patriots used to be.
And finally some coffee table chat : The Shrimps play in a purple stadium. Why isn't Barney the Dinosaur their mascot ?
I don’t know that Vegas is giving much of a home field advantage consideration. This comes into play with the GB / Minn game where both have a win total at 9 (juiced differently).
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I don’t know that Vegas is giving much of a home field advantage consideration. This comes into play with the GB / Minn game where both have a win total at 9 (juiced differently).
getty, Indy -13 . if someone, anyone, can get to the Qb, rivers might night make it to the second half. but that Indy OL is legit so he may have a big year since he won't be running for his life. can jacksonville be as bad as miami was in the first half of last season? and i always like detroit to start the season. they've been a disappointment every season. we'll see if this year is different.
titus, hopefully things will get better as we go here.
biscuit, i'm lacking in confidence and content to start the season. i might have to pay my subscribers to read this.
dj, as i went through these games, i completely forgot about the fact that most or all of these stadiums will be empty. i only guessed one or two lines right so maybe that's the difference. but it brings up a point that i read about a while ago. if you assume 3 point for home field advantage, and i think that's a decent starting point, but that number should be different depending on the home field, the situation, the travel, the other team and other factors, how much of that is crowd noice and how much of it is travel and not playing in the place you're used to, etc. of course, travel isn't much of a big deal in week one. jax looks like the only hot weather game. maybe carolina. anyway, maybe that explains the 2.5 for minnesota, but i still think that line should be 3 and if it isn't, then it should be 3.5.
trainwreck
finally, my first rpediction of the season - 24-20, cleveland wins
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welcome back, fellas.
getty, Indy -13 . if someone, anyone, can get to the Qb, rivers might night make it to the second half. but that Indy OL is legit so he may have a big year since he won't be running for his life. can jacksonville be as bad as miami was in the first half of last season? and i always like detroit to start the season. they've been a disappointment every season. we'll see if this year is different.
titus, hopefully things will get better as we go here.
biscuit, i'm lacking in confidence and content to start the season. i might have to pay my subscribers to read this.
dj, as i went through these games, i completely forgot about the fact that most or all of these stadiums will be empty. i only guessed one or two lines right so maybe that's the difference. but it brings up a point that i read about a while ago. if you assume 3 point for home field advantage, and i think that's a decent starting point, but that number should be different depending on the home field, the situation, the travel, the other team and other factors, how much of that is crowd noice and how much of it is travel and not playing in the place you're used to, etc. of course, travel isn't much of a big deal in week one. jax looks like the only hot weather game. maybe carolina. anyway, maybe that explains the 2.5 for minnesota, but i still think that line should be 3 and if it isn't, then it should be 3.5.
trainwreck
finally, my first rpediction of the season - 24-20, cleveland wins
looks like tenn moved a point, likely due to the von miller news which is a huge loss. i think it's too low but somehow denver gets to start the season at home every year and i think they do pretty well in that game, probably not due to crowd noise but the elevation. might be tough for a team to go into denver in week one at high elevation without having played any preseason games. otherwise, i like tenn.
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looks like tenn moved a point, likely due to the von miller news which is a huge loss. i think it's too low but somehow denver gets to start the season at home every year and i think they do pretty well in that game, probably not due to crowd noise but the elevation. might be tough for a team to go into denver in week one at high elevation without having played any preseason games. otherwise, i like tenn.
Texans have had this game circled all offseason... Regardless of roster turnover, and their remarkably mediocre coach, I cannot resist 1H large and FG bit less large
RB JK dobbins, my fantasy sleeper to pop.., other than that I’ll probably fade shrimp ML all season;)
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Texans have had this game circled all offseason... Regardless of roster turnover, and their remarkably mediocre coach, I cannot resist 1H large and FG bit less large
RB JK dobbins, my fantasy sleeper to pop.., other than that I’ll probably fade shrimp ML all season;)
Good to see all of you guys, crackin up all ready.
I have one bold prediction that I am 99.99% certain to be correct.
And that is...week 1 will be the most brutal watch of the NFL in it's history. I mean, how can any team be remotely close to be ready for a full contact game for a full 60 minutes?
Every thing they are doing in practice now(which is scaled way back) has been all half ass'd. I expect to see poor conditioning and a bunch of weird and abrupt injuries all over the place. I'm afraid of many penalties, disjointed game play, and an overall tough watch.
The pre-season existed to prevent what we are about to see. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I expect the teams to round into shape by week 4 or so.
I'll make my Bears assessment short n sweet...they are going to be AWFUL this year. Lot's of folks think that their D will continue to be elite, I don't think so. If things couldn't get any worse, their starting kicker was just put on IR. Getty, I like your take on Detroit.
good luck this year fellas
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Good to see all of you guys, crackin up all ready.
I have one bold prediction that I am 99.99% certain to be correct.
And that is...week 1 will be the most brutal watch of the NFL in it's history. I mean, how can any team be remotely close to be ready for a full contact game for a full 60 minutes?
Every thing they are doing in practice now(which is scaled way back) has been all half ass'd. I expect to see poor conditioning and a bunch of weird and abrupt injuries all over the place. I'm afraid of many penalties, disjointed game play, and an overall tough watch.
The pre-season existed to prevent what we are about to see. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I expect the teams to round into shape by week 4 or so.
I'll make my Bears assessment short n sweet...they are going to be AWFUL this year. Lot's of folks think that their D will continue to be elite, I don't think so. If things couldn't get any worse, their starting kicker was just put on IR. Getty, I like your take on Detroit.
This morning on the radio they said that both Robert Quin and Khalil Mack are dealing with knee issues. Last week I remember hearing that Akiem Hicks was dealing with a quad issue.
For those that don't know, the Bears let Nick Kwiatkowski and Kevin Pierre Louis go. Backup linebackers who shined on the field last year. They started a lot of games because of injuries. Kwiatkowski was great in their Nickel package.
Prince Amukamora is gone at CB, they'll be starting a rookie in his place.
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This morning on the radio they said that both Robert Quin and Khalil Mack are dealing with knee issues. Last week I remember hearing that Akiem Hicks was dealing with a quad issue.
For those that don't know, the Bears let Nick Kwiatkowski and Kevin Pierre Louis go. Backup linebackers who shined on the field last year. They started a lot of games because of injuries. Kwiatkowski was great in their Nickel package.
Prince Amukamora is gone at CB, they'll be starting a rookie in his place.
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ive said this in a few threads but I honestly believe if you bet every dog this week you end the week profitable. It’s dumb. It’s lazy. But hey it just might work
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Anyone in here looking for a big money survivor pool send me a PM
ive said this in a few threads but I honestly believe if you bet every dog this week you end the week profitable. It’s dumb. It’s lazy. But hey it just might work
this isn’t an advertising space big D - off to the penalty box with you, ohh wait...
Biscuit interesting pinny goes to 10 while most books go to 9.5 including square sites such as bovada where one typically pays .5-1.0 more for heavy faves... if the ole pinny lean just showed up I am worried for my Texans bet
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this isn’t an advertising space big D - off to the penalty box with you, ohh wait...
Biscuit interesting pinny goes to 10 while most books go to 9.5 including square sites such as bovada where one typically pays .5-1.0 more for heavy faves... if the ole pinny lean just showed up I am worried for my Texans bet
It is an occasion of immeasurable joy to see you gathered here tonight for the unveiling of the 2020 NFL season.
Our host, Mr CD, has asked that we all wear masks while posting within this thread, so as not to spread herpes.
Like most of you I have no idea WTF is going on with NFL teams. But unlike most of you I don't believe the lack of preseason games will have that much of an effect on the quality. We shall find out soon enough.
Leaning Hou tonight.
And like many of our contributors, I will sprinkle a little something on the ML of the Shrimps opponent
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Ladies, Gentlemen, and Bigred,
It is an occasion of immeasurable joy to see you gathered here tonight for the unveiling of the 2020 NFL season.
Our host, Mr CD, has asked that we all wear masks while posting within this thread, so as not to spread herpes.
Like most of you I have no idea WTF is going on with NFL teams. But unlike most of you I don't believe the lack of preseason games will have that much of an effect on the quality. We shall find out soon enough.
Leaning Hou tonight.
And like many of our contributors, I will sprinkle a little something on the ML of the Shrimps opponent
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Come on Gettyyyyyyyyyyy.......They are scary on paper....good luck fading these guys.....
. if someone, anyone, can get to the Qb, rivers might night make it to the second half. but that Indy OL is legit so he may have a big year since he won't be running for his life. can jacksonville be as bad as miami was in the first half of last season? and i always like detroit to start the season. they've been a disappointment every season. we'll see if this year is different.
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