Democrat party, the face of slavery then and now.

  Yes.   And he just *PROVED* it yet again, duplicating the exact same childish M.O. that got his former alias gambleholic63 BANNED in the first place!

Just watch!  We'll see more of the identical same behavior, guaranteed 

What a useless thread he started, just to annoy his perceived enemies

  Yes.   And he just *PROVED* it yet again, duplicating the exact same childish M.O. that got his former alias gambleholic63 BANNED in the first place!

Just watch!  We'll see more of the identical same behavior, guaranteed 

What a useless thread he started, just to annoy his perceived enemies

but you do realize with the bias that most of the mainstream media has, that has been proven, that any of their polls don't stand up to scrutiny. It's like the poll, hit piece, whatever it was that said Trump was one of the worst presidents in history. What they feel personally aside Trump was one of the most popular presidents because of his accomplishments. 

All you people do is talk about how everyone is a part of a cult and dumb and gullible. You insult people who do not agree with you with nearly every post. And your buddy does nothing to deter you, so why change your stripes. You want to guarantee I am this person, put your reputation on the line. 

I do not see?  How?  To me it proves the opposite.  Been here longer and says he is not.  He should know who he is and for sure who he is NOT.  You cannot just say someone is someone else and say it is proved when they say it is not.  That is not how 'proof' works. 

You should not just accuse someone of being someone else and at the same time call that other person names -- that means you are indirectly name calling the current person.  That is not a cool thing to do. 

For example: 

On the other hand, TIPP, which often partners with International Business Daily (IBD), has an A+ rating from FiveThirtyEight. The bureau has correctly called 81% of races for which it has released polls.

TIPP’s president, Raghavan Mayur, noted his organization’s weighting process, which is intended to correct for selection bias.

“TechnoMetrica weighted the study dataset by gender, age, race, education, and geographical region to mirror known benchmarks such as the U.S. Census,” he told the Daily Caller.

So, 538 gives them a solid A+ rating -- but you do NOT like this one poll?  Is that what you are saying?  

They explained their methodology as well.  But you do NOT like this one poll?  Again, is that what you are saying?  

If so, why exactly?  What would you rather have seen done with their poll?  They are highly rated -- as we just saw -- so, I am thinking they know how to do a poll. 

@DeezyAZ81

 Of course it is quoted by conservative outlets. It suits their narrative about Hunter Biden. Come on, not hard to figure out. 

Isn't this the point?  Why would a Liberal source quote or use this poll?  It does NOT suit or support their narrative?

At some point logic and critical thinking has to be used.  

You cannot use the Right's own point to TRY to dispute their point.  That is not how logic works.  

as far as i know there is no covers.com rule that says a banned jerk cannot continue posting here but under a different alias

ma'am are you going to put your reputation up or not? If you are so convinced put your name on the line and take your banning or else stop defaming me. Calling me some gambleholic person. I am not addicted to anything. That is defamation of character if I have every seen it. Covers allowing you, Fubah, Zeus and anyone else party to it would be liable. 

Some polls are more neutral than others of course. Trusted pollers are discussed by both conservative and liberal media outlets. This "poller" is not even rated or heard of by anyone other than the NY Post, and other fringe outlets. Go to 538 and see if this poller is even listed. It is not. 538 has conservative and liberal learning pollers all over the site and this one is not even mentioned. A liberal source could most certainly use this poll if it was reliable and accurate, but it is not. 

You act like Liberal outlets do not report negative polls about Biden. They all do. Liberal leaning outlets constantly reported polls showing Biden's approval rating when it was extremely low or when he was shown as potentially losing to DeSantis in 2024 or tied with Trump a couple of months ago. 

If this was an accurate, reliable poll that anyone had heard of at least some of the liberal outlets would surely discuss it, but it isn't. 

Come on man. Stop acting like all liberal outlets prevent any negative polling news about Biden. That just is not the case, despite what is said in here. 

@DeezyAZ81

 https://www.investors.com/news/ibdtipp-americas-most-accurate-pollster/

I think they are more highly thought of than you think.

I am thinking this the first time you have heard of them?

I guess I am used to seeing them with the investing things.  But they are very reputable. 

Again, any poll can refer to itself as the most accurate poll in the world, that does not mean it's true. Hell Trump says he is the most honest human ever. Does that mean it's true? Rasmussen also claims it is most accurate poll ever. They actually are included on 538 list of polls as well, so my mistake there. However, they are also shown to report a high Republican bias according to 538. Most of these polls are biased one way or another. So take it with a grain of salt.

538, I quoted, as giving them an A+ grade -- not themselves.  Could care less about Trump. -- he is not a poll, he did not conduct a poll; no idea why you brought him up.

So, I am not disputing the results of the poll.  I am simply pointing out that -- yes, there actually was a poll done; that, yes, it was done by a reputable organization using accepted methodology.

Now that those two things are established -- which you disputed -- now what you should do is argue WHY they are wrong, by using data or other polls to back it up.  You cannot just say you don't trust them or say they are biased.

You do this by pointing out another poll -- biased, your way, or not.  Or question it by other means that would make sense with some sort of evidence.

You cannot just dismiss facts because you do not like or agree with them.

Do you agree? 

do you really think he was taught anything?

welcome to the mind of a liberal. If the poll says Trump would have won, thereby destroying the liberal lie that the election was won fairly, they will ignore anything that says that. Even if that poll also said the sky is blue, they would dispute that to their death. You won't get a true liberal to budge on anything, no matter how convincing you argue and you argued well. They dig their heels in and plug their ears. You read some of the posts, they think the country is doing great, everyone is happy and anything that is wrong is blamed on Trump or Putin. It couldn't be that Putin invaded Ukraine because we have a weak dolt of a president. They looked for every reason to say Trump was unfit, while ignoring an feeble old man that has shown hundreds of times in two years he's not fit for office. You just can't argue with these people. They don't see common sense and after reading their stuff, they are a lost cause and not worth trying trying to reason with. I honestly think there is a better than 80% chance the person or person's typing behind Fubah, Kelly and a few others are people planted to spread disinformation and be divisive. They are all over Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, why not some crappy gambling website? Look at how much they post and it's mostly nonsense and just bumping threads with nothing added but emoji's. If they are in fact real people, they lead a sad lonely life. I'm going to bed in a few, I am a real person who has a job. 

@Jarrett75

 You are funny. 

Boo hoo...he's gotta go to work in the morning to make the donuts.

I agree, Trump did admit that he opposes free and fair elections multiple times and also opposes parts of the Constitution that are inconvenient to him. Trump supporters should just move to Russia already. 
Meanwhile, the rest of us will just get on with our lives.

Speciyba comrades! Enjoy the Motherland!

I believe Jarrett or Lovethedough mentioned North Korea is more of democracy. They should both move there and report back if they gain Internet access there. 

What is a fact about a poll? It is an opinion. And again the poll is skewed heavily Republican. You Republicans tend to only trust the polls when they suit a narrative interesting. I constantly heard how inaccurate they were during the 2020 cycle or when they reported Trump's approval was low. But now that you can find one that supports negative views of Hunter Biden, polls are gospel and highly reputable. So interesting how that works with the likes of you. And no I don't trust this poll, I don't think the majority of the country gives a $ht about Hunter Biden. Only the die hard, committed, Trumpers. 

@DeezyAZ81

 "What is a fact about a poll? It is an opinion. And again the poll is skewed heavily Republican. You Republicans tend to only trust the polls when they suit a narrative interesting. I constantly heard how inaccurate they were during the 2020 cycle or when they reported Trump's approval was low. But now that you can find one that supports negative views of Hunter Biden, polls are gospel and highly reputable. So interesting how that works with the likes of you. And no I don't trust this poll, I don't think the majority of the country gives a $ht about Hunter Biden. Only the die hard, committed, Trumpers."

Yes---it is an amalgamation of opinions.  Nobody is asking for the definition of a poll.  

We have established that a poll was done.  Sure, polls are not exact science and sometimes the concluding evidence will prove them wrong.  This one is reputable.  No, it was NOT skewed Republican -- that was the EXACT reason for doing the poll -- to get the views of the Democrats.

This is from IBD: "After proving to be America's most accurate national poll in the 2004, 2008, 2012 and 2016 presidential elections, results for 2020 show the IBD/TIPP poll has done it again. IBD/TIPP has now been the most accurate in each of the last five election cycles."

So, now that part is established as well -- and includes the 2020 cycle.  I am not asking for you to try to dispute that a poll was done or that the poll was not done by a reliable place.  These are simply established facts at this point.

Again, I do not care about Trump and have no idea why that is your go-to on everything that you cannot argue or debate about.  

I also do not think you understand what the poll was about.  The poll was NOT about whether people had negative views about Hunter Biden?  It was about whether people would have been influenced by the information or if it might have changed their minds.  

This is the part I would like to see you address.  

You seem to not believe there was a poll conducted; I think you admitted being wrong about that.

You seem to not believe that the poll was done by a reputable place; I think that it has been established that it was.

So, what I would like to see you argue is whether you think the poll is accurate.  You do not seem to think so.

I believe that for the ones of you that are far Leftists -- No, it would not have mattered.

But for the more centrists-voting Democrats, I think it would have -- and this poll seems to agree.

So, my question to you is since you do not think so, why not?  What would you use to back your case up?

Certainly the Left unite behind their candidates better the the Right does -- I have always said this.  Republicans will sit right at home and not vote at all if they do not like their candidate.  The Democrats do not.  I have always argued about McCain and Romney being examples of this.

If you do not think something like this would sway the Left, why not?  What would?

Here is a question from a similar poll that Trumpers cling to regarding Hunter Biden and public opinion.

The MRC shared a summary of the poll findings, that includes the question:

All those conspiracy theories from far right extremists have already been debunked before.  Sadly, sheep followers of conspiracy theorists prefer to believe lies instead of truths despite lack of evidences.  Besides media, paranoid people also distrust school and science the traditional institutions of truth in society.