@Calde13 Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @Calde13 You think the folks in the USA are that much likely to get shot for stating their opinion? I have not noticed a difference there as compared to many other places. I think there are people there that state their opinions very freely without being worried about getting shot for it. You are saying they are 26x more likely to get shot for simply stating their opinion? Where are you getting those statistics from?
Ohh I just googled it and it was one of the first results - it isn’t like I would die on that hill - but of course it is more dangerous walking down the streets of NYC etc than Copenhagen (even though we lately have had our share due to Swedish people coming in here and shooting everyone in sight) that was my main point - and also what I thought was referred to when he said I wouldn’t last a day in one of your capitol cities speaking like this - but I wouldn’t change the way I speak or my opinion - but I might agree with the point that I might would get shot :)
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@Calde13 Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @Calde13 You think the folks in the USA are that much likely to get shot for stating their opinion? I have not noticed a difference there as compared to many other places. I think there are people there that state their opinions very freely without being worried about getting shot for it. You are saying they are 26x more likely to get shot for simply stating their opinion? Where are you getting those statistics from?
Ohh I just googled it and it was one of the first results - it isn’t like I would die on that hill - but of course it is more dangerous walking down the streets of NYC etc than Copenhagen (even though we lately have had our share due to Swedish people coming in here and shooting everyone in sight) that was my main point - and also what I thought was referred to when he said I wouldn’t last a day in one of your capitol cities speaking like this - but I wouldn’t change the way I speak or my opinion - but I might agree with the point that I might would get shot :)
Thank you and yes true I will also try to use it less in here if I can - so I am happy for the concept that it was pointed out
Do not use it less on my say-so.
I think it should be used for a lot of ‘knuckleheads’ here and in life in general.
But people think it is demeaning to mentally challenged folks — even though it is obviously not being used that way. Same with so many words. ‘Oriental’, ‘short’, ‘fat’, etc. Peopke are overly sensitive nowadays.
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@Calde13
Thank you and yes true I will also try to use it less in here if I can - so I am happy for the concept that it was pointed out
Do not use it less on my say-so.
I think it should be used for a lot of ‘knuckleheads’ here and in life in general.
But people think it is demeaning to mentally challenged folks — even though it is obviously not being used that way. Same with so many words. ‘Oriental’, ‘short’, ‘fat’, etc. Peopke are overly sensitive nowadays.
My point was more that if you take a certain segment out of the USA numbers and the reasons behind the shootings — there just is not that much difference. At least not just for stating your opinion.
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@Calde13
My point was more that if you take a certain segment out of the USA numbers and the reasons behind the shootings — there just is not that much difference. At least not just for stating your opinion.
You are right that Sweden has changed a lot. I used to take the hydrofoil over from Copenhagen to Malmo a good bit. Malmo has changed quite a bit. I think you see it more there than in any other city, including Stockholm or Gothenburg. I read somewhere that someone was speculating some of it had to do with the Pandemic and more folks gravitated there because they were still so open. But no idea if that is backed by anything. But for sure there is a lot of pushback from some of the folks now that the country has changed so much in such a short time.
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You are right that Sweden has changed a lot. I used to take the hydrofoil over from Copenhagen to Malmo a good bit. Malmo has changed quite a bit. I think you see it more there than in any other city, including Stockholm or Gothenburg. I read somewhere that someone was speculating some of it had to do with the Pandemic and more folks gravitated there because they were still so open. But no idea if that is backed by anything. But for sure there is a lot of pushback from some of the folks now that the country has changed so much in such a short time.
I come from a country where the consensus among most people is not to look down on those people groups so we can say most of those words without any problems - gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc. therefore those aren’t hush hush words here (they are just used to describe men that like fucking men or if someone does something in a femine way or describe the skin colour of a person - also what I have told slim. When he tries insult me by calling me gay - that only works if both the sender and receiver of said message - think that gay people is less worth) - so I still hold the opinion it is fair I don’t get boxed for it - because in my opinion it is what the intend of using said word is and not the word itself - that should give the ban - but I don’t really care if they box me
Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that.
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Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:
I come from a country where the consensus among most people is not to look down on those people groups so we can say most of those words without any problems - gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc. therefore those aren’t hush hush words here (they are just used to describe men that like fucking men or if someone does something in a femine way or describe the skin colour of a person - also what I have told slim. When he tries insult me by calling me gay - that only works if both the sender and receiver of said message - think that gay people is less worth) - so I still hold the opinion it is fair I don’t get boxed for it - because in my opinion it is what the intend of using said word is and not the word itself - that should give the ban - but I don’t really care if they box me
Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that.
gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc.
Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that.
It seems they did. Now the push is to give them more rights than the folks not inside this very, very small group. There are holidays ‘celebrating’ it — whole months in some places. Every job application has questions about it on them. All jobs have departments that ‘train’ folks on it.
At one time some of that may have been needed. But it is no longer needed. Now it is all about indoctrinating the children and forcing the agenda to be accepted by the overwhelming majority of folks that are not part of the small sliver. It is no longer about ‘rights’, they have all of the rights and more now; it is about promoting acceptance of the agenda now. This is not just a European thing now, it has spread to North America and, to a lesser extent, South America.
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@UNIMAN
gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc.
Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that.
It seems they did. Now the push is to give them more rights than the folks not inside this very, very small group. There are holidays ‘celebrating’ it — whole months in some places. Every job application has questions about it on them. All jobs have departments that ‘train’ folks on it.
At one time some of that may have been needed. But it is no longer needed. Now it is all about indoctrinating the children and forcing the agenda to be accepted by the overwhelming majority of folks that are not part of the small sliver. It is no longer about ‘rights’, they have all of the rights and more now; it is about promoting acceptance of the agenda now. This is not just a European thing now, it has spread to North America and, to a lesser extent, South America.
I actually don’t know that much about how it works over there - apart from I know a lot of gay Americans move to Scandinavia - but normally “hush, hush” words are because you as a nation has a bad rep or history with said group - it is the reason we can’t say eskimos etc over here about Greenlanders - and you guys have a thing about calling black people the n. Word etc. that is also not 100% cool here but that is mostly because we have been doctrined through your movies etc. that it is a bad term to call them rather than it being because our society treat you different from being black - it is equally as wrong going all woke and treat them better - the ideal world is to treat them exactly the same - they are just humans after all - we have that a little with woman getting treated better now to make up for all the years they were treated worse - but that is just taking a problem and solving it by creating a new problem
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I actually don’t know that much about how it works over there - apart from I know a lot of gay Americans move to Scandinavia - but normally “hush, hush” words are because you as a nation has a bad rep or history with said group - it is the reason we can’t say eskimos etc over here about Greenlanders - and you guys have a thing about calling black people the n. Word etc. that is also not 100% cool here but that is mostly because we have been doctrined through your movies etc. that it is a bad term to call them rather than it being because our society treat you different from being black - it is equally as wrong going all woke and treat them better - the ideal world is to treat them exactly the same - they are just humans after all - we have that a little with woman getting treated better now to make up for all the years they were treated worse - but that is just taking a problem and solving it by creating a new problem
Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: I come from a country where the consensus among most people is not to look down on those people groups so we can say most of those words without any problems - gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc. therefore those aren’t hush hush words here (they are just used to describe men that like fucking men or if someone does something in a femine way or describe the skin colour of a person - also what I have told slim. When he tries insult me by calling me gay - that only works if both the sender and receiver of said message - think that gay people is less worth) - so I still hold the opinion it is fair I don’t get boxed for it - because in my opinion it is what the intend of using said word is and not the word itself - that should give the ban - but I don’t really care if they box me Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that.
You still don't realize the DEI concept was setup to ensure an uneducated unskilled white person would not be chosen over a better educated highly skilled minority.
Got it ass backwards brother!
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: I come from a country where the consensus among most people is not to look down on those people groups so we can say most of those words without any problems - gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc. therefore those aren’t hush hush words here (they are just used to describe men that like fucking men or if someone does something in a femine way or describe the skin colour of a person - also what I have told slim. When he tries insult me by calling me gay - that only works if both the sender and receiver of said message - think that gay people is less worth) - so I still hold the opinion it is fair I don’t get boxed for it - because in my opinion it is what the intend of using said word is and not the word itself - that should give the ban - but I don’t really care if they box me Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that.
You still don't realize the DEI concept was setup to ensure an uneducated unskilled white person would not be chosen over a better educated highly skilled minority.
Something to keep in mind when your businesses start to suffer over there - the rumours over here in EU - has all along been that the primary reason Trump and co. hates EU is because we declined his proposal to expand his golf club over here - and considering US were the primary reason we were demilitarised after WW2, we have supported every single war you guys have asked us for support and he has declined a zero-to-zero tariff deal we offered (as our real tariff rate we put on you is actually 2% and not the 38% he used for his calculations) it seems more likely that the hate is personal based and not based in any kind of reality (and you have trading surplus with Australia and Canada is almost no part in your illegal drug situation - it seems to me you guys are paying for Trumps personal vendettas more than anything )
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Something to keep in mind when your businesses start to suffer over there - the rumours over here in EU - has all along been that the primary reason Trump and co. hates EU is because we declined his proposal to expand his golf club over here - and considering US were the primary reason we were demilitarised after WW2, we have supported every single war you guys have asked us for support and he has declined a zero-to-zero tariff deal we offered (as our real tariff rate we put on you is actually 2% and not the 38% he used for his calculations) it seems more likely that the hate is personal based and not based in any kind of reality (and you have trading surplus with Australia and Canada is almost no part in your illegal drug situation - it seems to me you guys are paying for Trumps personal vendettas more than anything )
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: I come from a country where the consensus among most people is not to look down on those people groups so we can say most of those words without any problems - gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc. therefore those aren’t hush hush words here (they are just used to describe men that like fucking men or if someone does something in a femine way or describe the skin colour of a person - also what I have told slim. When he tries insult me by calling me gay - that only works if both the sender and receiver of said message - think that gay people is less worth) - so I still hold the opinion it is fair I don’t get boxed for it - because in my opinion it is what the intend of using said word is and not the word itself - that should give the ban - but I don’t really care if they box me Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that. You still don't realize the DEI concept was setup to ensure an uneducated unskilled white person would not be chosen over a better educated highly skilled minority. Got it ass backwards brother!
My LIFE EXPERIENCE has been just the opposite. I was denied even an interview in 1978 because I was a white male. Only after two of the three minorities hired quit did I get an interview and the job.
In 1988 I was denied a promotion even though the interview panel, department head, and division head picked me for the promotion. Affirmative Action Director has determined not enough minorities in that position so take the minority who, by the way, had no experience in that sector and did not meet the "desired" minimum qualifications. Notice they have to use the word desired, not required.
So no, you got it ass backwards and that was over 35 years ago. I held no animosities, just moved on and retired a top manager in a different organization.
And in my career hired minorities, women, gays, heterosexuals, and men BASED ON THEIR WORK ETHIC AND ABILITIES.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: I come from a country where the consensus among most people is not to look down on those people groups so we can say most of those words without any problems - gay people here has the same rights - black people are treated exactly the same as the rest of us etc. therefore those aren’t hush hush words here (they are just used to describe men that like fucking men or if someone does something in a femine way or describe the skin colour of a person - also what I have told slim. When he tries insult me by calling me gay - that only works if both the sender and receiver of said message - think that gay people is less worth) - so I still hold the opinion it is fair I don’t get boxed for it - because in my opinion it is what the intend of using said word is and not the word itself - that should give the ban - but I don’t really care if they box me Isn't that what Trump is trying to do by elimInating DEI? Personally I strive for a country like that. You still don't realize the DEI concept was setup to ensure an uneducated unskilled white person would not be chosen over a better educated highly skilled minority. Got it ass backwards brother!
My LIFE EXPERIENCE has been just the opposite. I was denied even an interview in 1978 because I was a white male. Only after two of the three minorities hired quit did I get an interview and the job.
In 1988 I was denied a promotion even though the interview panel, department head, and division head picked me for the promotion. Affirmative Action Director has determined not enough minorities in that position so take the minority who, by the way, had no experience in that sector and did not meet the "desired" minimum qualifications. Notice they have to use the word desired, not required.
So no, you got it ass backwards and that was over 35 years ago. I held no animosities, just moved on and retired a top manager in a different organization.
And in my career hired minorities, women, gays, heterosexuals, and men BASED ON THEIR WORK ETHIC AND ABILITIES.
Nawwww, can't be anything that Europe does, like jail time for political memes, outlawing political parties, sending rightwing leaders to kangaroo courts, setting up huge gas pipelines from Russia and then claiming to be green, taxing their farmers for cow farts, etc.
Oh no, has to be a failed golf course expansion, yeah, gotta be.
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Nawwww, can't be anything that Europe does, like jail time for political memes, outlawing political parties, sending rightwing leaders to kangaroo courts, setting up huge gas pipelines from Russia and then claiming to be green, taxing their farmers for cow farts, etc.
Oh no, has to be a failed golf course expansion, yeah, gotta be.
Nawwww, can't be anything that Europe does, like jail time for political memes, outlawing political parties, sending rightwing leaders to kangaroo courts, setting up huge gas pipelines from Russia and then claiming to be green, taxing their farmers for cow farts, etc. Oh no, has to be a failed golf course expansion, yeah, gotta be.
Yeah I am sure those things keep Trump sleepless at night - he is the biggest Russian lapdog leading any country at the moment and he doesn’t give a fuck about global warming etc. so that seems like a plausible explanation
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Nawwww, can't be anything that Europe does, like jail time for political memes, outlawing political parties, sending rightwing leaders to kangaroo courts, setting up huge gas pipelines from Russia and then claiming to be green, taxing their farmers for cow farts, etc. Oh no, has to be a failed golf course expansion, yeah, gotta be.
Yeah I am sure those things keep Trump sleepless at night - he is the biggest Russian lapdog leading any country at the moment and he doesn’t give a fuck about global warming etc. so that seems like a plausible explanation
You still don't realize the DEI concept was setup to ensure an uneducated unskilled white person would not be chosen over a better educated highly skilled minority. Got it ass backwards brother!
DEI have been misconstrued by republicans. DEI isn't about not hiring qualified people. DEI exist to counteract societal bias and discrimination so that women and minorities aren't excluded from jobs. DEI is about ensuring everyone is treated fairly with merit being the only consideration in hiring instead of race or gender. Without DEI, status quo is hiring white men with inferior merit. Trump eliminating DEI would reverse decades of progress in civil rights.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
You still don't realize the DEI concept was setup to ensure an uneducated unskilled white person would not be chosen over a better educated highly skilled minority. Got it ass backwards brother!
DEI have been misconstrued by republicans. DEI isn't about not hiring qualified people. DEI exist to counteract societal bias and discrimination so that women and minorities aren't excluded from jobs. DEI is about ensuring everyone is treated fairly with merit being the only consideration in hiring instead of race or gender. Without DEI, status quo is hiring white men with inferior merit. Trump eliminating DEI would reverse decades of progress in civil rights.
@Calde13 You need to shut -up and drink a Jolly cola..........
Just because you guys drink Coca Cola and your google search said our “alternative” is “jolly cola” - some of us don’t actually need to consume shit like that (most of us over here are actually not fat - I know it is a hard concept to fathom) - But I will give you (if this is your point) that Coca Cola taste better - even though both taste bad - so it is a choice equal to if you want to die by cancer or aids
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
@Calde13 You need to shut -up and drink a Jolly cola..........
Just because you guys drink Coca Cola and your google search said our “alternative” is “jolly cola” - some of us don’t actually need to consume shit like that (most of us over here are actually not fat - I know it is a hard concept to fathom) - But I will give you (if this is your point) that Coca Cola taste better - even though both taste bad - so it is a choice equal to if you want to die by cancer or aids
The real reason is the current tax of52cents for a 1.5 liter bottle on soda has caused Danes to travel across the border to Germany to buy their soda.....
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That's the answer ... Fat shaming ...
The real reason is the current tax of52cents for a 1.5 liter bottle on soda has caused Danes to travel across the border to Germany to buy their soda.....
That's the answer ... Fat shaming ... The real reason is the current tax of 52 cents for a 1.5 liter bottle on soda has caused Danes to travel across the border to Germany to buy their soda.....
There is a sugar tax if that is what you mean ? But that isn’t anywhere near 52 % more like 5-6% but yeah if you are celebrating something big you are driving to Germany - like graduation, big birthdays etc. (but for most of us it is like 1 hour drive away so it is like you driving to a big mall or whatever to get a discount) but on daily basis you don’t drive there - and I don’t understand the diss tbh - you are basically trying to insinuate it is bad to have a government that try to regulate people don’t eat themselves to death?
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
That's the answer ... Fat shaming ... The real reason is the current tax of 52 cents for a 1.5 liter bottle on soda has caused Danes to travel across the border to Germany to buy their soda.....
There is a sugar tax if that is what you mean ? But that isn’t anywhere near 52 % more like 5-6% but yeah if you are celebrating something big you are driving to Germany - like graduation, big birthdays etc. (but for most of us it is like 1 hour drive away so it is like you driving to a big mall or whatever to get a discount) but on daily basis you don’t drive there - and I don’t understand the diss tbh - you are basically trying to insinuate it is bad to have a government that try to regulate people don’t eat themselves to death?
But considering all the bad stuff they deliberately put in your guys food to keep you in the healthcare system - I can understand it might be weird if they actually started caring about you guys - cause how should they earn dollars when you are sick then
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But considering all the bad stuff they deliberately put in your guys food to keep you in the healthcare system - I can understand it might be weird if they actually started caring about you guys - cause how should they earn dollars when you are sick then
You are correct ..I was dealing with old numbers ..the tax is not as high as I quoted ..nevertheless.. saying you have "choice equal to if you want to die by cancer or aids" is understandable since Copenhagen is the most gay friendly place in the world .
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You are correct ..I was dealing with old numbers ..the tax is not as high as I quoted ..nevertheless.. saying you have "choice equal to if you want to die by cancer or aids" is understandable since Copenhagen is the most gay friendly place in the world .
You are correct ..I was dealing with old numbers ..the tax is not as high as I quoted ..nevertheless.. saying you have "choice equal to if you want to die by cancer or aids" is understandable since Copenhagen is the most gay friendly place in the world .
What we end up with % wise after taxes, insurrance policy (and everything else you have to pay excluding rent etc.) is almost identical to you guys - then we just have free schools and hospitals as a bonus on top, and you could argue with the product tax (tarriffs) you guys have to pay soon we will be mile years ahead of you guys !
And the gay thing, we two will never agree on this (but I don't blame you cause you are living in a country that is more fearful of God than thinking about fellow human beings - but I am sure God will be proud when he sees how you treat something he has created) - but now this is the last time I will go into this because I think it is childish argument tbh. --- I dont care if you are: black, white, gay, straight, bi, unipolar or what the fuck you are - if you are a nice human being I will treat you nice, if you are an asshole I will treat you as such - I feel sorry for you guys that it affect your guys life so much who other people chooses to fuck - I haven't spend one second in my life thinking about if George next door fuck the female cashier at the mall or he fuck 3 dudes he play basketball with - BECAUSE IT DOESNT AFFECT MY LIFE IN THE SLIGHTEST - I am sorry for you
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
You are correct ..I was dealing with old numbers ..the tax is not as high as I quoted ..nevertheless.. saying you have "choice equal to if you want to die by cancer or aids" is understandable since Copenhagen is the most gay friendly place in the world .
What we end up with % wise after taxes, insurrance policy (and everything else you have to pay excluding rent etc.) is almost identical to you guys - then we just have free schools and hospitals as a bonus on top, and you could argue with the product tax (tarriffs) you guys have to pay soon we will be mile years ahead of you guys !
And the gay thing, we two will never agree on this (but I don't blame you cause you are living in a country that is more fearful of God than thinking about fellow human beings - but I am sure God will be proud when he sees how you treat something he has created) - but now this is the last time I will go into this because I think it is childish argument tbh. --- I dont care if you are: black, white, gay, straight, bi, unipolar or what the fuck you are - if you are a nice human being I will treat you nice, if you are an asshole I will treat you as such - I feel sorry for you guys that it affect your guys life so much who other people chooses to fuck - I haven't spend one second in my life thinking about if George next door fuck the female cashier at the mall or he fuck 3 dudes he play basketball with - BECAUSE IT DOESNT AFFECT MY LIFE IN THE SLIGHTEST - I am sorry for you
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