He got all his chips in with the way best hand in this situation. I will take my chances with KK against AJ suited for all my chips every day of the week. How did he play it wrong? He got exactly what he wanted,he wanted someone to raise him,he got it,he pushed all in with KK, dope on the button calls with AJ suited. OP is a HUGE favorite. Just a bad beat but KK makes money long term in that spot.
No i doesnt. Youre not thinking of it in long term. Guy who got it in with AJ was probably a deeper thinker. OP shoves KK pre flop there he will win but never collect max value as most times button squeezer will be folding pre flop and not getting it in.
As stated OP is not a thinking player... so he just shoves like a total donk becauwe he fell in love with his hand. His range is so strong tjat he can afford to flat here and trap him OOP.
Button probablyvwent along the lines why would this guy shove with such a monster hand if hes got QQ+. I would understand a shove her if oringal raiser also called the buttons squeeze where he closes tjr action. Now there is enough dead money in the pot to shove and collect a big pot pre flop.
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Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:
He got all his chips in with the way best hand in this situation. I will take my chances with KK against AJ suited for all my chips every day of the week. How did he play it wrong? He got exactly what he wanted,he wanted someone to raise him,he got it,he pushed all in with KK, dope on the button calls with AJ suited. OP is a HUGE favorite. Just a bad beat but KK makes money long term in that spot.
No i doesnt. Youre not thinking of it in long term. Guy who got it in with AJ was probably a deeper thinker. OP shoves KK pre flop there he will win but never collect max value as most times button squeezer will be folding pre flop and not getting it in.
As stated OP is not a thinking player... so he just shoves like a total donk becauwe he fell in love with his hand. His range is so strong tjat he can afford to flat here and trap him OOP.
Button probablyvwent along the lines why would this guy shove with such a monster hand if hes got QQ+. I would understand a shove her if oringal raiser also called the buttons squeeze where he closes tjr action. Now there is enough dead money in the pot to shove and collect a big pot pre flop.
Lets look at this further then. Because OP is a level 1 player at best shitty level 2 thinker. He flats and then gets squeezed. After the squeeze he 4 bet shoves as a big stack. He's got blockers to the Ace and J..... keep in mind he just sat down and he's stupid stack is all over the places and he's playing like spewtard.
So we can discount AQ AA, AK.... yes he may have it but unlikely. KK and QQ possible but why not just 3bet in the first place or just flat if your hand is strong against what he thinks he has. ALSO HE SAID WHAT ORIGINAL RAISER DID? Did he flat the buttons squeeze or did he fold.... which makes this donk play even dumber.
So as a thinking player this play looks stupid. If you read clearly this kid is willing to commit all his chips on a very marginal hand. 66 on a 259K board. "I put him AQ of hearts" LOL ok guy. Dude ends up with A3 of diamonds that gave very solid equity even going into the river. So having seen all that guy squeezed AJ for value as he's mostly slightly behind but willing to gamble against a smaller pocket pair.
Good players don't play KK that way..... would love to know what original raiser did in this spot. Shoving KK here IF original raiser folds is severely limiting your win rate in the long run.
Hypothetical: You have KK and your opponent is drunk, and he tips his cards forward, exposing AJ. He has no idea you know his hand, and you would then just call and look at the board, instead of getting all of your chips in pre-flop?
I think your overthinking has cause your brain to quit thinking. Of course you should get all your chips in the middle and hope the odds hold up as about a 70-30 favorite. Otherwise, why are you even playing the game?
And for the initial poster who said this was a bad beat, it was not that bad of a beat. It just so happens that it cost you a lot of chips, so the loss is more painful.
And at least the guy the initial poster owed money to, got paid something before he lost the big hand.
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Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:
Really?
Lets look at this further then. Because OP is a level 1 player at best shitty level 2 thinker. He flats and then gets squeezed. After the squeeze he 4 bet shoves as a big stack. He's got blockers to the Ace and J..... keep in mind he just sat down and he's stupid stack is all over the places and he's playing like spewtard.
So we can discount AQ AA, AK.... yes he may have it but unlikely. KK and QQ possible but why not just 3bet in the first place or just flat if your hand is strong against what he thinks he has. ALSO HE SAID WHAT ORIGINAL RAISER DID? Did he flat the buttons squeeze or did he fold.... which makes this donk play even dumber.
So as a thinking player this play looks stupid. If you read clearly this kid is willing to commit all his chips on a very marginal hand. 66 on a 259K board. "I put him AQ of hearts" LOL ok guy. Dude ends up with A3 of diamonds that gave very solid equity even going into the river. So having seen all that guy squeezed AJ for value as he's mostly slightly behind but willing to gamble against a smaller pocket pair.
Good players don't play KK that way..... would love to know what original raiser did in this spot. Shoving KK here IF original raiser folds is severely limiting your win rate in the long run.
Hypothetical: You have KK and your opponent is drunk, and he tips his cards forward, exposing AJ. He has no idea you know his hand, and you would then just call and look at the board, instead of getting all of your chips in pre-flop?
I think your overthinking has cause your brain to quit thinking. Of course you should get all your chips in the middle and hope the odds hold up as about a 70-30 favorite. Otherwise, why are you even playing the game?
And for the initial poster who said this was a bad beat, it was not that bad of a beat. It just so happens that it cost you a lot of chips, so the loss is more painful.
And at least the guy the initial poster owed money to, got paid something before he lost the big hand.
You're the kinda guy i make money off at the tables. Overly cocky.... boastful... and has a big EGO thinks he can "read" people.
You gamble for a living..... you gambled on your last hand my dude. Good thing that ace didn't river you..... would have felt even worse.... without that runner runner you wouldn't be making this thread. Yea i know how i sound right now.... like a complete jerkoff. But you played that like a complete jerkoff. Be humble and respect the game..... the other guy above is right. Flat evaluate the flop and proceed but you need that rush.
2nd of all WTF are you doing playing 2/5NL after you slightly go up in 1/2. Bro you're just waiting to ship a stack that way..... action feen.
You should have just 3bet pre flop why would you flat there and let button plus the SB and BB in there when you have a premium hand? ..... bro if im button and i've watch you play going by what you described in your post I might actually ship it in their with AJ suited especially if i dont give a feck about my 6 bills and have a roll with me to play all night. You're play looks spazzy as feck and i have blockers to a lot of hands that have me crushed. KK doesn't have AJ suited completely crushed neither. Sounds like you gambled but button was paying attention as well.... and was willing to look you up.....
And if this is the worst bad beat you ever took in poker..... then you haven't been playing poker for that long.......
You're saying he should have 3 bet the flop because you know the outcome. If the story stops after they both get it all in you have to like the way the KK sets up. Now what if I told you an ace didnt fall either?
If you could see an opponents cards and would have played the hand differently, then you played it wrong.
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Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:
You're the kinda guy i make money off at the tables. Overly cocky.... boastful... and has a big EGO thinks he can "read" people.
You gamble for a living..... you gambled on your last hand my dude. Good thing that ace didn't river you..... would have felt even worse.... without that runner runner you wouldn't be making this thread. Yea i know how i sound right now.... like a complete jerkoff. But you played that like a complete jerkoff. Be humble and respect the game..... the other guy above is right. Flat evaluate the flop and proceed but you need that rush.
2nd of all WTF are you doing playing 2/5NL after you slightly go up in 1/2. Bro you're just waiting to ship a stack that way..... action feen.
You should have just 3bet pre flop why would you flat there and let button plus the SB and BB in there when you have a premium hand? ..... bro if im button and i've watch you play going by what you described in your post I might actually ship it in their with AJ suited especially if i dont give a feck about my 6 bills and have a roll with me to play all night. You're play looks spazzy as feck and i have blockers to a lot of hands that have me crushed. KK doesn't have AJ suited completely crushed neither. Sounds like you gambled but button was paying attention as well.... and was willing to look you up.....
And if this is the worst bad beat you ever took in poker..... then you haven't been playing poker for that long.......
You're saying he should have 3 bet the flop because you know the outcome. If the story stops after they both get it all in you have to like the way the KK sets up. Now what if I told you an ace didnt fall either?
If you could see an opponents cards and would have played the hand differently, then you played it wrong.
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