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You ever fold Kings preflop?

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I dont. ANd it just busted me out when I ran into AA... 91st outta 2000
 
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VS one person, no I never have


sorry man that sucks
 
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i was big blind, someone raised, button rerasied, i went all in, he instacalled, lights out
 
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nothing you can do there
 
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I did one time and it saved my ass. One of my best folds ever.

I raised 3 or 4 bb at least and I got 2 callers. Flop hit A 2 8.  I acted last out of the 3. 1st guy bet (can't remember what but high). I took my time and knew what he had. It was A 2 or A 8 I thought the 1st guy had. Sure enough 1st guy hits full house A 2  board A 2 8 6 2.

I was like      


 
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I was playing 1/3 NL one time and the guy first to act made it $30 to go, one caller, and the guy that just sat down called. 
 
Original raiser goes all-in (about $400) first caller calls (she has like $40 left) third guy folds and shows his kings.
 
I couldn't have folded that hand, unless I only had one bullet.  I know you have to put the guy on aces, but he just as easily could have had AK, or QQ.  If I was just sitting down at the table I would have called.  King came on flop too.  Original raiser had AA.
 
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did one time, i was 2nd to act, the utg guy limped I raised, was reraised all in, then the utg guy flat called..>WTF!!! I folded...it was AA vs QQ
 
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yeah pucksrus just completely missed the point... i would hope you fold KK sometimes when an ace spikes the board
 
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probably with 3 or 4 all-ins in front of you..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:

probably with 3 or 4 all-ins in front of you..

3 you fold for sure

unless RIDICULOUSLY priced in
 
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Yes misread the title sorry 
 
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I did on my first and only trip to Atlantic city. I was in the bb with one raise to 10 dollars and the small blind called. I re-raised to 30, got a call and then the small blind went all in for roughly 500 dollars. I showed the lady to my left and she thought I was nuts folding.   The other guy had QQ and went into the tank before finally folding. The SB showed AA. Thats the only time I have evr done that.
 
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decided to observe a table on the monte carlo 850$ buyin satellite. FIRST HAND of the whole tourny saw two people raise and reraise eachother all in
kk vs
aa
 
flop hits k and it holds up through turn and riv.
 
guess the aces guy wasnt going to monte carlo this year.
 
 
 
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if you have kings and the other guy has aces, you are still 20% to win... haha
 
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I don't think anyone is good enough to fold KK pre flop.  You should if you know the player has it, but there are few occasions where you know the villian has AA.
 
I was watching a WSOP even and Hellmuth and some guys wife each had AA and another guy had KK, that was the only time it was obvious someone had AA.  The guy still called and was knocked out.
 
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I've done it a few times before.   Both were an UTG raise followed by two reraises.  It's pretty obvious in that situation.  It's much easier to fold kings pre flop in a cash game then a tournament though.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by WerderFan:

if you have kings and the other guy has aces, you are still 20% to win... haha

BUT REMEMBER THIS!!!!



keep on keepin on......
 
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Depends on the situation

Say ur down to the last 3 of a multi table

its paying 3k 2k 1k

You and one other guy have 100k chips 3rd guy has 2k

So the other big stack goes allin and u have kk

Do you call? u lose ur out.
 
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shrewdie, in that situation I'd put him on even a less chance that aces because he's playing to isolate the weak stack
 
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shrewdie, actually i owe you more of an explanation... how long have we been playign 3 handed? Is this this guys first all in? how often does he raise preflop, and how large? and less importantly to the theoretical question of whether or not to fold kings, how much am I making finishing 2nd as opposed to 1st?
 
my basic thought is folding kings preflop is a losing proposition because when you add the times your opponent DOESNT have AA to the amount you suck out with KK, its porbably more than 50% more than the times you are up against AA.
 
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In a tournament, no.  In bigger cash games quite a bit actually.  When you raise and get re raised all in for 5-10 thousand what do you think a solid player is putting it in there with, queens?   Baiscally
 
Tournament no
1-2  2-5 NL  no
5-10 and above  hell yeah
 
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If you have kings, and someone else is acting more aggressive than you...as in, over the top aggressive - depending on the player - you may just want to think about giving that person some respect and assume he's either got the other two kings or aces. 




 
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heres my question for vegasmaxx..... so you are always gonna let a guy steal a big pot without showing his hand? get what I'm saying, theoretically.... dude at the table you don't know can come over teh top with a big raise and you fold all the time? he could have 2-7 off and just have you read... he knows any big bet you see you'll fold even kings.... i understand if you have a read on a player, know his tendencies and can put him on aces, i'll buy that... but just folding kings to any large overbet, wow.... seems like you could be getting played a lot of the time
 
i'm scared of the guy who slow plays aces and then comes out firing later in the hand when you are trapped already with a not-good-enough overpair.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by WerderFan:

heres my question for vegasmaxx..... so you are always gonna let a guy steal a big pot without showing his hand? get what I'm saying, theoretically.... dude at the table you don't know can come over teh top with a big raise and you fold all the time? he could have 2-7 off and just have you read... he knows any big bet you see you'll fold even kings.... i understand if you have a read on a player, know his tendencies and can put him on aces, i'll buy that... but just folding kings to any large overbet, wow.... seems like you could be getting played a lot of the time
 
i'm scared of the guy who slow plays aces and then comes out firing later in the hand when you are trapped already with a not-good-enough overpair.
no no no no no   In vegas there are a lot of absolute rock nuts players, guys i play with 4 or 5 times a week that I have absolutely no problem laying kings down to cause I know they got AA if they go in pre flop.     But I cant stress enough how different it is when you have a lot of money in front of you.  I sit down at they wynn sometimes with 10 grand.   If i'm playing 5 -10 and make it say 300 with kk and some idiot i've never seen raise it 5k(and there really isnt alot of that here, those people dont last) you bet your ass i'm folding, take my 300, there's another hand being dealt in 10 seconds and I'll wait for a better spot.  Just me.   Aint saying it's right or wrong.  Like I said, never folded em playing 2-5 with 500 in front of me or in a tourney.    Hardest thing for me to learn about poker was some times its better to fold when your ahead.  Let me ask you a question. You have JJ and a guy SHOWS u AK preflop and puts you all in for 1000 and you have 5 bucks in the pot, do you call?   I dont, if I wanted to flip coins I'd flip coins, I wanna play poker.
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