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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2022 - 8:12 PM ET #276

    John EASTMAN pleading w/ a federal judge to slow down his legal clash with the Jan. 6 committee: "Were this Court to sustain the [committee's] claims, it may be the first formal finding of Presidential criminality by a federal court in US history."

    Yep and you were part of it.

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    John EASTMAN pleading w/ a federal judge to slow down his legal clash with the Jan. 6 committee: "Were this Court to sustain the [committee's] claims, it may be the first formal finding of Presidential criminality by a federal court in US history."

    Yep and you were part of it.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2022 - 10:07 PM ET #277

    Note to the 1/6 Committee...

    Just throw us a bone! Indict someone already! I'll even take Matt Gaetz!

    My wife reminded me that Watergate took 2 years & we've just started the 2nd year.

    My Mom would say "Lord, give me patience with these kids but hurry up."

     

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    Note to the 1/6 Committee...

    Just throw us a bone! Indict someone already! I'll even take Matt Gaetz!

    My wife reminded me that Watergate took 2 years & we've just started the 2nd year.

    My Mom would say "Lord, give me patience with these kids but hurry up."

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2022 - 8:06 PM ET #278

    There are plenty of stories being told by insurrectionists while standing before a judge. This lady, Annie Howell from PA, relayed that she had been promised a job in the WH for her activity get Trump reelected. 

    But that didn’t transpire and now Howell has been sentenced to 60 days in jail, and this has left her worried that she may lose custody of her child. 

    Each one of these traitors have a sob story & I say fuck them all!

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    There are plenty of stories being told by insurrectionists while standing before a judge. This lady, Annie Howell from PA, relayed that she had been promised a job in the WH for her activity get Trump reelected. 

    But that didn’t transpire and now Howell has been sentenced to 60 days in jail, and this has left her worried that she may lose custody of her child. 

    Each one of these traitors have a sob story & I say fuck them all!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 2:27 PM ET #279

    A jury found Guy Wesley Reffitt, the first Capitol riot participant to stand trial, guilty on all five counts after just a few hours of deliberation on Tuesday in a clean victory for prosecutors going after the rioters.

    Reffitt was charged with five felonies for his part in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on Capitol Hill, including arming himself with a gun, attempting to interfere with an official government proceeding and intimidating his teenage children to discourage them from cooperating with investigators.

    Next traitor in line.....

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    A jury found Guy Wesley Reffitt, the first Capitol riot participant to stand trial, guilty on all five counts after just a few hours of deliberation on Tuesday in a clean victory for prosecutors going after the rioters.

    Reffitt was charged with five felonies for his part in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on Capitol Hill, including arming himself with a gun, attempting to interfere with an official government proceeding and intimidating his teenage children to discourage them from cooperating with investigators.

    Next traitor in line.....

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 2:32 PM ET #280

    @Midnight1

     Are we also going after all the looters and rioters from the entire summer the same as the Capital day? Or do politicians only care about riots when it happens close to them? Should we treat the rioters from the summer months of destruction all over the country the same as these Capital intruders? Doesn't seem like that's the case. Democrats were afraid of Jan 6th so they go after the intruders, but seem to have let all the democratic rioters from the summer months go free. What kind of message does that send?

     

    Kind of like how democratic politicians don't seem to give a crap about sky rocketing crime in their cities. Probably because they do not live close to the crime. Out of sight, out of mind. They only show action when their poll numbers fall. Kind of sad that's how our politicians act. Reaction instead of pro action and always too little too late with them. 

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    @Midnight1

     Are we also going after all the looters and rioters from the entire summer the same as the Capital day? Or do politicians only care about riots when it happens close to them? Should we treat the rioters from the summer months of destruction all over the country the same as these Capital intruders? Doesn't seem like that's the case. Democrats were afraid of Jan 6th so they go after the intruders, but seem to have let all the democratic rioters from the summer months go free. What kind of message does that send?

     

    Kind of like how democratic politicians don't seem to give a crap about sky rocketing crime in their cities. Probably because they do not live close to the crime. Out of sight, out of mind. They only show action when their poll numbers fall. Kind of sad that's how our politicians act. Reaction instead of pro action and always too little too late with them. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 3:17 PM ET #281

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     Your comparison doesn't cut the mustard.

    We're talking about overthrowing the government not stealing purses & sneakers!

    Get real..

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    @BigGame90

     Your comparison doesn't cut the mustard.

    We're talking about overthrowing the government not stealing purses & sneakers!

    Get real..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 4:00 PM ET #282

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    @Midnight1  Are we also going after all the looters and rioters from the entire summer the same as the Capital day? Or do politicians only care about riots when it happens close to them? Should we treat the rioters from the summer months of destruction all over the country the same as these Capital intruders? Doesn't seem like that's the case. Democrats were afraid of Jan 6th so they go after the intruders, but seem to have let all the democratic rioters from the summer months go free.

    Midnight1 is right.  Capitol riot is no mere protest and cannot be compared to peaceful lawful protests.  Polls show most Americans condemn capitol riot but support black lives matter protests.  Over 90% of BLM protests are peaceful without any injury or damage.   No single BLM protest is as violent as the capitol riot.  Unlike BLM protests, FBI considers capitol riot as an intentional terrorist attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    @Midnight1  Are we also going after all the looters and rioters from the entire summer the same as the Capital day? Or do politicians only care about riots when it happens close to them? Should we treat the rioters from the summer months of destruction all over the country the same as these Capital intruders? Doesn't seem like that's the case. Democrats were afraid of Jan 6th so they go after the intruders, but seem to have let all the democratic rioters from the summer months go free.

    Midnight1 is right.  Capitol riot is no mere protest and cannot be compared to peaceful lawful protests.  Polls show most Americans condemn capitol riot but support black lives matter protests.  Over 90% of BLM protests are peaceful without any injury or damage.   No single BLM protest is as violent as the capitol riot.  Unlike BLM protests, FBI considers capitol riot as an intentional terrorist attack.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 4:24 PM ET #283

    Nothing peaceful about the summer riots... 

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    Nothing peaceful about the summer riots... 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 4:40 PM ET #284

    Third... you obviously in your basement bunker..

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    Third... you obviously in your basement bunker..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 9:00 PM ET #285

    Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, has been charged with conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    Next traitor in line....

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    Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, has been charged with conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    Next traitor in line....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 9:26 PM ET #286

    I want these traitors to pay the piper for their actions. This Reffitt character went before a jury with little or no defense for his actions. 

    I've read the judge may give him a severe sentence so any other traitor that comes before him will think twice about pleading Not Guilty & wasting the time of the court.

    I'm looking for AG Garland to fry some bigger fish.

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    I want these traitors to pay the piper for their actions. This Reffitt character went before a jury with little or no defense for his actions. 

    I've read the judge may give him a severe sentence so any other traitor that comes before him will think twice about pleading Not Guilty & wasting the time of the court.

    I'm looking for AG Garland to fry some bigger fish.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2022 - 10:21 PM ET #287

    BTW...the Proud Boy was arrested in his underwear in Miami this morning.

    You couldn't see the fuzzy Minnie Mouse slippers he was wearing in the video.

    From the looks of it when he checks into the Graybar hotel, his jail name will be "Tiny Rico."

    .

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    BTW...the Proud Boy was arrested in his underwear in Miami this morning.

    You couldn't see the fuzzy Minnie Mouse slippers he was wearing in the video.

    From the looks of it when he checks into the Graybar hotel, his jail name will be "Tiny Rico."

    .

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 5:03 PM ET #288

    Senior Adviser to Trump, Steven Miller has brought a lawsuit to prevent the 1/6 Committee from getting his phone records because he's on his family phone plan.

    What he doesn't realize it's as easy for T-Mobile to sperate his phone # from his parents numbers as it was for him to support separating kids from their parents at the border.

    YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!

     

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    Senior Adviser to Trump, Steven Miller has brought a lawsuit to prevent the 1/6 Committee from getting his phone records because he's on his family phone plan.

    What he doesn't realize it's as easy for T-Mobile to sperate his phone # from his parents numbers as it was for him to support separating kids from their parents at the border.

    YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 5:09 PM ET #289

    A grand jury in Colorado has indicted a county election clerk who sowed doubt about the 2020 presidential election, alleging she was part of a “deceptive scheme” to breach voting system technology that is used across the country, according to the indictment made public Wednesday.

    Tina Peters, a Republican elected in 2018 to oversee elections in Mesa County, was charged with seven felony and three misdemeanor counts, including attempting to influence a public servant, criminal impersonation and first-degree official misconduct. Also facing charges in the case is Deputy Clerk Belinda Knisley.

    Next traitor in line....

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    A grand jury in Colorado has indicted a county election clerk who sowed doubt about the 2020 presidential election, alleging she was part of a “deceptive scheme” to breach voting system technology that is used across the country, according to the indictment made public Wednesday.

    Tina Peters, a Republican elected in 2018 to oversee elections in Mesa County, was charged with seven felony and three misdemeanor counts, including attempting to influence a public servant, criminal impersonation and first-degree official misconduct. Also facing charges in the case is Deputy Clerk Belinda Knisley.

    Next traitor in line....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 6:19 PM ET #290

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, has been charged with conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Next traitor in line....

     

    The line forms here  an_beatup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, has been charged with conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Next traitor in line....

     

    The line forms here  an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 8:10 AM ET #291

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, has been charged with conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Next traitor in line....

    Proud boys is a neo fascist terrorist group that has been banned by youtube, twitter and facebook.  According to Miami herald, arrest of their leader is just the latest in a series of extremist connections to Florida and republicans.  More floridians have been charged in capital riot than from any other state.  Governor DeSantis downplays capital riot.  Greene and Gosar attends white nationalist conference in Orlando.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, has been charged with conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Next traitor in line....

    Proud boys is a neo fascist terrorist group that has been banned by youtube, twitter and facebook.  According to Miami herald, arrest of their leader is just the latest in a series of extremist connections to Florida and republicans.  More floridians have been charged in capital riot than from any other state.  Governor DeSantis downplays capital riot.  Greene and Gosar attends white nationalist conference in Orlando.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 11:52 AM ET #292

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I want these traitors to pay the piper for their actions. This Reffitt character went before a jury with little or no defense for his actions.  I've read the judge may give him a severe sentence so any other traitor that comes before him will think twice about pleading Not Guilty & wasting the time of the court. I'm looking for AG Garland to fry some bigger fish.

    As long as the punishment is commesurate with the crime I'm ok with a fair sentence.

    I don't feel it's right though to exact an even heavier penalty just to set an example, because it also sets a precedent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I want these traitors to pay the piper for their actions. This Reffitt character went before a jury with little or no defense for his actions.  I've read the judge may give him a severe sentence so any other traitor that comes before him will think twice about pleading Not Guilty & wasting the time of the court. I'm looking for AG Garland to fry some bigger fish.

    As long as the punishment is commesurate with the crime I'm ok with a fair sentence.

    I don't feel it's right though to exact an even heavier penalty just to set an example, because it also sets a precedent.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 2:34 PM ET #293

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     What do you consider a fair sentence for someone who stabs a police officer with a flagpole or tries to gouge out an officer's eyes?

    Is either of these crimes less evil than the other?

    What about the leaders of the insurrectionists; should they get more or less time?

    How about those who funded/paid for additional weapons to be purchased? What should their punishment be? 

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     What do you consider a fair sentence for someone who stabs a police officer with a flagpole or tries to gouge out an officer's eyes?

    Is either of these crimes less evil than the other?

    What about the leaders of the insurrectionists; should they get more or less time?

    How about those who funded/paid for additional weapons to be purchased? What should their punishment be? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 5:06 PM ET #294

    What do you consider a fair sentence for Michael Byrd (for what the fbi and doj didn't ask him) for shooting a unarmed woman and he said he saw no gun, on top of that I think he was dumb enough to leave his gun somewhere before or Matthew Rosenberg and all the fbi guys in the riot and I mean are you going to sentence them for what they did? We all knew they where in the crowd helping to get things going.

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    What do you consider a fair sentence for Michael Byrd (for what the fbi and doj didn't ask him) for shooting a unarmed woman and he said he saw no gun, on top of that I think he was dumb enough to leave his gun somewhere before or Matthew Rosenberg and all the fbi guys in the riot and I mean are you going to sentence them for what they did? We all knew they where in the crowd helping to get things going.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 5:27 PM ET #295

    @hoody

     I'm talking about traitors to our country not punks burning & pillaging stores.

    If you can't see the difference, I can't even discuss the topic with you.

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    @hoody

     I'm talking about traitors to our country not punks burning & pillaging stores.

    If you can't see the difference, I can't even discuss the topic with you.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 6:00 PM ET #296

    Midnight get a hobby better yet join the service and really protect the U.S.A

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    Midnight get a hobby better yet join the service and really protect the U.S.A

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 6:54 PM ET #297

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @hoody  I'm talking about traitors to our country not punks burning & pillaging stores. If you can't see the difference, I can't even discuss the topic with you.

    I think you need to do a little more research I'm not a traitor to your country and I don't burn or steal from stores, look it up watch the tape, so the FBI our traitors?

    Do you know who these people are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @hoody  I'm talking about traitors to our country not punks burning & pillaging stores. If you can't see the difference, I can't even discuss the topic with you.

    I think you need to do a little more research I'm not a traitor to your country and I don't burn or steal from stores, look it up watch the tape, so the FBI our traitors?

    Do you know who these people are?

     
    baish2012
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 7:26 PM ET #298

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @baish2012  What do you consider a fair sentence for someone who stabs a police officer with a flagpole or tries to gouge out an officer's eyes? Is either of these crimes less evil than the other? What about the leaders of the insurrectionists; should they get more or less time? How about those who funded/paid for additional weapons to be purchased? What should their punishment be?

    @Midnight1

    2-5 yrs  (first-offender, no priors) depending on severity of injury to officer

    3-7 yrs (with criminal history) adjusted upward upon severity of injury to officer

    The ring leaders and instigators  (based on level of involvement)  minimum 2 yrs up to 10 yrs with no possibilty of parole!!

    Co-conspirators and non-combatant accomplices  minimum 2 yrs up to 7 yrs

    All convicted would also lose their priviledges to ever own a gun (of any kind), associate with any criminal gang or group with anti-government platforms, or known domestic-violence organization, and be forbidden to ever run for public office.

    Is that more or less in your ballpark as well? peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @baish2012  What do you consider a fair sentence for someone who stabs a police officer with a flagpole or tries to gouge out an officer's eyes? Is either of these crimes less evil than the other? What about the leaders of the insurrectionists; should they get more or less time? How about those who funded/paid for additional weapons to be purchased? What should their punishment be?

    @Midnight1

    2-5 yrs  (first-offender, no priors) depending on severity of injury to officer

    3-7 yrs (with criminal history) adjusted upward upon severity of injury to officer

    The ring leaders and instigators  (based on level of involvement)  minimum 2 yrs up to 10 yrs with no possibilty of parole!!

    Co-conspirators and non-combatant accomplices  minimum 2 yrs up to 7 yrs

    All convicted would also lose their priviledges to ever own a gun (of any kind), associate with any criminal gang or group with anti-government platforms, or known domestic-violence organization, and be forbidden to ever run for public office.

    Is that more or less in your ballpark as well? peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 8:14 PM ET #299

    @baish2012

    Yep same ballpark.

    peace_5

     

     

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    @baish2012

    Yep same ballpark.

    peace_5

     

     

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 8:21 PM ET #300

    @Aronrogers

     Son, you weren't even in diapers when I learned how to slit a throat in 3 easy steps before shipping out to Nam. Don't preach to me about doing service. 

    @hoody

     I didn't accuse you of being a traitor. What I said was those who tried to overthrow our government should be dealt with more severely than the rioters who stole merchandise. Got it?

     

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    @Aronrogers

     Son, you weren't even in diapers when I learned how to slit a throat in 3 easy steps before shipping out to Nam. Don't preach to me about doing service. 

    @hoody

     I didn't accuse you of being a traitor. What I said was those who tried to overthrow our government should be dealt with more severely than the rioters who stole merchandise. Got it?

     

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