Do you understand the clarification .
if there is clear and apparent credibility
This isn't a fisa fishing warrant....
This is from someone who has defended and challenged voting concerns across the country..
First, vote fraud happens. It happens in almost every election. But it is rarely enough to throw out even local races. But let's take Trump v. Biden in Michigan.
Right now in Michigan, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by 146,137 votes. If Republicans find 50,000 fraudulent votes in Michigan, Joe Biden would still lead by 96,137 votes. But wait, there's more…
37,706 people chose not to participate in the presidential election in Michigan, so the President's lawyers have to either find 146,137 votes that they are 100% sure were cast fraudulently in the presidential race or they have to find 183,843 fraudulent total votes because you aren't allowed to ask anyone how they voted. And that's just Michigan. If they proved that, then they'd subtract 16 electoral votes from Joe Biden. Assuming Biden has Georgia, he's still over 270. So now rinse and repeat for PA.
The President's team can't just throw out the votes in one state, but must do the same thing in each state over 270 electoral college votes.
It is not enough to show voter fraud. The standard is voter fraud to an extent that casts doubt on the election. That standard means the margin of the vote if proven specifically or the margin of the vote + margin of votes not cast in that race. It is very tough.
Absolutely, we are going to find voter fraud. It happens every election. The question is how much and I've never seen voter fraud in the hundred thousand vote range. Hell, I've never seen it in the 10s of thousands vote range.
All of that is to say Joe Biden is President-Elect of the United States and it is not going to change.
This is from someone who has defended and challenged voting concerns across the country..
First, vote fraud happens. It happens in almost every election. But it is rarely enough to throw out even local races. But let's take Trump v. Biden in Michigan.
Right now in Michigan, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by 146,137 votes. If Republicans find 50,000 fraudulent votes in Michigan, Joe Biden would still lead by 96,137 votes. But wait, there's more…
37,706 people chose not to participate in the presidential election in Michigan, so the President's lawyers have to either find 146,137 votes that they are 100% sure were cast fraudulently in the presidential race or they have to find 183,843 fraudulent total votes because you aren't allowed to ask anyone how they voted. And that's just Michigan. If they proved that, then they'd subtract 16 electoral votes from Joe Biden. Assuming Biden has Georgia, he's still over 270. So now rinse and repeat for PA.
The President's team can't just throw out the votes in one state, but must do the same thing in each state over 270 electoral college votes.
It is not enough to show voter fraud. The standard is voter fraud to an extent that casts doubt on the election. That standard means the margin of the vote if proven specifically or the margin of the vote + margin of votes not cast in that race. It is very tough.
Absolutely, we are going to find voter fraud. It happens every election. The question is how much and I've never seen voter fraud in the hundred thousand vote range. Hell, I've never seen it in the 10s of thousands vote range.
All of that is to say Joe Biden is President-Elect of the United States and it is not going to change.
@midnight which means less than 1 percent chance.
Somehow McConnell fox the Republican party and the entirety of the Republican party is risking Georgia and control of the Senate for that... Damn whom ever believes the cavalry coming for Trump is not thinking clearly.
@midnight which means less than 1 percent chance.
Somehow McConnell fox the Republican party and the entirety of the Republican party is risking Georgia and control of the Senate for that... Damn whom ever believes the cavalry coming for Trump is not thinking clearly.
Hard to believe! A system 'glitch' in Wisconsin.The 'glitch' moves 19,032 votes from Biden to Trump.
The finale to this saga will be ACB casting the deciding vote preserving the Trump Presidency.
Hard to believe! A system 'glitch' in Wisconsin.The 'glitch' moves 19,032 votes from Biden to Trump.
The finale to this saga will be ACB casting the deciding vote preserving the Trump Presidency.
I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok
After everything has been said and done tonight.
We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in?
I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok
After everything has been said and done tonight.
We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in?
I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.
I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok After everything has been said and done tonight. We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in? I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.
He could...
If the phone could stop ringing every leader in world is wants to talk with the man. Do they understand hey damn near midnight eastern standard time
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: I worked up a sweat tonight in the politics forum on covers. It was a lot of fun tonight. Ok After everything has been said and done tonight. We do not have a President elect. What do we call Joe in the position he is in? I'm sure if someone told Joe this was all a dream and that his basement is 72 degrees, he would just go back to sleep. So it's still Sleepy Joe for me.
He could...
If the phone could stop ringing every leader in world is wants to talk with the man. Do they understand hey damn near midnight eastern standard time
DOJ Bill Barr's top elections crimes prosecutor just resigned in protest over election investigation.
Sounds like he was in charge of a totally legit, non-partisan investigation into election fraud.
DOJ Bill Barr's top elections crimes prosecutor just resigned in protest over election investigation.
Sounds like he was in charge of a totally legit, non-partisan investigation into election fraud.
@DeezyAZ81
why are you even posting if you are so sure its a w? Don't waste your time enjoy the win, move on let others believe what they want.
@DeezyAZ81
why are you even posting if you are so sure its a w? Don't waste your time enjoy the win, move on let others believe what they want.
Why do you care? Let others believe conspiracy theories, which undermine democratic elections? What is the purpose of that?
That is the problem today, there is one truth everyone should be paying attention to. That is that Biden won a legitimate election.
Everything else is nonsense and a waste of time.
Why do you care? Let others believe conspiracy theories, which undermine democratic elections? What is the purpose of that?
That is the problem today, there is one truth everyone should be paying attention to. That is that Biden won a legitimate election.
Everything else is nonsense and a waste of time.
@DeezyAZ81
If they are conspiracy theories then why post? count your winnings from your bets, if they paid them out yet? If you obviously won you should be happy right? When I win a bet on a nfl game and people post that it was rigged (the eagles cowboys sunday night recently for example) I don't keep bothering the posters who feel like it was rigged for days after, I eventually move on to the next bet. You should be celebrating that the orange man lost.
@DeezyAZ81
If they are conspiracy theories then why post? count your winnings from your bets, if they paid them out yet? If you obviously won you should be happy right? When I win a bet on a nfl game and people post that it was rigged (the eagles cowboys sunday night recently for example) I don't keep bothering the posters who feel like it was rigged for days after, I eventually move on to the next bet. You should be celebrating that the orange man lost.
Why not? Isn't this an open forum to discuss events in politics? I am free to post, and will continue to do so. I enjoy clowning those that believe in conspiracy theories. You have the freedom to skip over my posts if it triggers you.
Why not? Isn't this an open forum to discuss events in politics? I am free to post, and will continue to do so. I enjoy clowning those that believe in conspiracy theories. You have the freedom to skip over my posts if it triggers you.
While I am out and about on this grand adventure might be in around Chicago in January.
We might have dinner then old boy....
While I am out and about on this grand adventure might be in around Chicago in January.
We might have dinner then old boy....
Detroit Poll watcher: At 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 4 "tens of thousands of ballots" delivered from out-of-state
"Unlike the other ballots, these boxes were brought in from the rear of the room"
"I specifically noticed every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden"
Detroit Poll watcher: At 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 4 "tens of thousands of ballots" delivered from out-of-state
"Unlike the other ballots, these boxes were brought in from the rear of the room"
"I specifically noticed every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden"
This poll watcher has some serious skill. He watched tens of thousands of ballots all count for Biden. That takes serious focus and grit in one sitting. I thought Poll watchers were not given proper access to see what was going on though? How could he possibly be close to see that every single ballot of tens of thousands was in favor of Biden???
This stupid story sounds like it is right of Rudy G's latest book of tall tales.
This poll watcher has some serious skill. He watched tens of thousands of ballots all count for Biden. That takes serious focus and grit in one sitting. I thought Poll watchers were not given proper access to see what was going on though? How could he possibly be close to see that every single ballot of tens of thousands was in favor of Biden???
This stupid story sounds like it is right of Rudy G's latest book of tall tales.
@DeezyAZ81
Once again, you simply can't comprehend what you read. Go ahead and read it again or maybe 5 more times. We all understand your struggles.
@DeezyAZ81
Once again, you simply can't comprehend what you read. Go ahead and read it again or maybe 5 more times. We all understand your struggles.
I am all for letting this situation play itself out. Rooting out corruption is something all American people should be for. If no corruption is found and the Biden win becomes certified, then every American will have an added layer of confidence that the winner is not tainted.
I don't like Biden. He's simply not up to the task of leading this country, but I will accept him as my president if he is certified as the winner.
I am all for letting this situation play itself out. Rooting out corruption is something all American people should be for. If no corruption is found and the Biden win becomes certified, then every American will have an added layer of confidence that the winner is not tainted.
I don't like Biden. He's simply not up to the task of leading this country, but I will accept him as my president if he is certified as the winner.
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