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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2020 - 1:48 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    For the record. Biden called Trump a racist when he stopped million of Chinese from flying to America. Biden would have killed a million more Americans if he was President.

    Now here we have another commendable post. Dedicated Trumpsters will eat it up. None of them will point out that it is so ludicrous as to call any true believer (in the post) a certifiable moron.

    Million(s?) of Chinese? Really? Can you document, certify, or even crack-pipe-dream-justify that number? How? Where is the data? Were they lined up at the airports and ship docks ready to go? Were the transporters going to use military transport aircraft and troop transport ships to get them all over here? Getting a million or more people across 10,000 miles of ocean is no easy task. Implied is that Biden would have just sat back and said, “uh, gee, I wonder what they want? Let them in and let’s find out.”

    Biden would have killed a million more Americans if he were president? Supporting evidence please? Put down the crack pipe. There is no way to know that or anything else Biden “would have done” if he were president. He is not, and never has been president. No track record. No possible way to accuse him of horrible presidential conduct or errors when he has never even held the office. Nor was he kept informed with daily briefings on the severity of the problem or its possible consequences. We know who was and chose to ignore the warnings.

    Note: Only “true believers” in the post are called certifiable morons. Most Trumpsters will not believe the statement, but also will not tell the poster how far out in left field he is. Nor will the poster concede his obvious faults.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    For the record. Biden called Trump a racist when he stopped million of Chinese from flying to America. Biden would have killed a million more Americans if he was President.

    Now here we have another commendable post. Dedicated Trumpsters will eat it up. None of them will point out that it is so ludicrous as to call any true believer (in the post) a certifiable moron.

    Million(s?) of Chinese? Really? Can you document, certify, or even crack-pipe-dream-justify that number? How? Where is the data? Were they lined up at the airports and ship docks ready to go? Were the transporters going to use military transport aircraft and troop transport ships to get them all over here? Getting a million or more people across 10,000 miles of ocean is no easy task. Implied is that Biden would have just sat back and said, “uh, gee, I wonder what they want? Let them in and let’s find out.”

    Biden would have killed a million more Americans if he were president? Supporting evidence please? Put down the crack pipe. There is no way to know that or anything else Biden “would have done” if he were president. He is not, and never has been president. No track record. No possible way to accuse him of horrible presidential conduct or errors when he has never even held the office. Nor was he kept informed with daily briefings on the severity of the problem or its possible consequences. We know who was and chose to ignore the warnings.

    Note: Only “true believers” in the post are called certifiable morons. Most Trumpsters will not believe the statement, but also will not tell the poster how far out in left field he is. Nor will the poster concede his obvious faults.   

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2020 - 7:46 PM ET #27

              I will say 10’s of thousands of Chinese people coming to America. I stand corrected. Maybe a million if the Chinese decided to run from the disease. No need to call people names and try to be insulting. 
             As for the million more dead Americans, you prove that this would not happen if Biden was allowed to let the Chinese exodus from China to America. In America today, the democrats say, guilty until proven innocent. As we have seen with their fake attacks on Trump for 4 years now. So I’m saying, if Biden was President, and allowed 10’s of thousands of infected Chinese into America, as he and Pelosi would have done, yes, maybe more than a million American deaths. 

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              I will say 10’s of thousands of Chinese people coming to America. I stand corrected. Maybe a million if the Chinese decided to run from the disease. No need to call people names and try to be insulting. 
             As for the million more dead Americans, you prove that this would not happen if Biden was allowed to let the Chinese exodus from China to America. In America today, the democrats say, guilty until proven innocent. As we have seen with their fake attacks on Trump for 4 years now. So I’m saying, if Biden was President, and allowed 10’s of thousands of infected Chinese into America, as he and Pelosi would have done, yes, maybe more than a million American deaths. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2020 - 8:48 PM ET #28

    From Breitbart:
    Nearly 40,000 people have landed in the United States from China
    on almost 280 flights since President Donald Trump’s February 2
    travel ban on mainland China, a collection of travel data reveals.

    Source: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/05/coronavirus-travel-ban-trump-flights-china/

     

     

    From FOX news website:


    Even after the order went into effect on February 2,
    some 40,000 people – traveling on 279 flights –
    have arrived in the U.S. from China, according to the
    analysis from the NY Times based on data collected in both countries.
    Most of those travelers flew into airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco,
    New York, Newark, Seattle, Chicago and Detroit in January.


    Thousands came directly from the city of Wuhan where the
    coronavirus originated, the New York Times reported.

    Many passengers arriving from China within the past two months said
    they experienced  lax screening procedures at U.S. airports.
    Some travelers said they had their temperatures taken and filled
    out health forms, but were NOT intensely questioned and were
    never contacted again, the Times reported.
    Others said they were told to self-quarantine for 14 days and
    received two reminder text messages but received no further
    follow-up
    Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-china-us-flights-430000-people

     

    There were plenty of gaps in containment.
    Trump’s order did not fully “close” the U.S. off to China, as he asserts.
    It temporarily barred entry by foreign nationals who had traveled
    in China within the previous 14 days, with exceptions for the
    immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents.
    Americans returning from China were allowed back after 
    screening at select ports of entry and for 14 days afterward.
    But U.S. scientists say screenings can miss people who don’t yet
    show symptoms of COVID-19; while symptoms often appear within
    five or six days of exposure, the incubation period is 14 days.
    Source: https://apnews.com/0dc271ad7f7917374a5a0cfb49273783

     


    The one aspect of the Trump administration’s response the president
    has consistently boasted about was his enactment of the China travel
    ban at the end of January.
    But the travel ban was only against specific foreign nationals and
    still allowed Americans to travel back to the US.
    After the ban was enacted, more than 40,000 Americans came back
    into the country and potentially spread the virus, the NY Times reported.
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y82b9p36

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    From Breitbart:
    Nearly 40,000 people have landed in the United States from China
    on almost 280 flights since President Donald Trump’s February 2
    travel ban on mainland China, a collection of travel data reveals.

    Source: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/05/coronavirus-travel-ban-trump-flights-china/

     

     

    From FOX news website:


    Even after the order went into effect on February 2,
    some 40,000 people – traveling on 279 flights –
    have arrived in the U.S. from China, according to the
    analysis from the NY Times based on data collected in both countries.
    Most of those travelers flew into airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco,
    New York, Newark, Seattle, Chicago and Detroit in January.


    Thousands came directly from the city of Wuhan where the
    coronavirus originated, the New York Times reported.

    Many passengers arriving from China within the past two months said
    they experienced  lax screening procedures at U.S. airports.
    Some travelers said they had their temperatures taken and filled
    out health forms, but were NOT intensely questioned and were
    never contacted again, the Times reported.
    Others said they were told to self-quarantine for 14 days and
    received two reminder text messages but received no further
    follow-up
    Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-china-us-flights-430000-people

     

    There were plenty of gaps in containment.
    Trump’s order did not fully “close” the U.S. off to China, as he asserts.
    It temporarily barred entry by foreign nationals who had traveled
    in China within the previous 14 days, with exceptions for the
    immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents.
    Americans returning from China were allowed back after 
    screening at select ports of entry and for 14 days afterward.
    But U.S. scientists say screenings can miss people who don’t yet
    show symptoms of COVID-19; while symptoms often appear within
    five or six days of exposure, the incubation period is 14 days.
    Source: https://apnews.com/0dc271ad7f7917374a5a0cfb49273783

     


    The one aspect of the Trump administration’s response the president
    has consistently boasted about was his enactment of the China travel
    ban at the end of January.
    But the travel ban was only against specific foreign nationals and
    still allowed Americans to travel back to the US.
    After the ban was enacted, more than 40,000 Americans came back
    into the country and potentially spread the virus, the NY Times reported.
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y82b9p36

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2020 - 9:01 PM ET #29

    Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold. 
        It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated. 

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    Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold. 
        It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.     It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated.

    How do you know Biden wanted the border open? And did you really say "Trump save God knows how many lives..." about Mexico?? My best friend was in Mexico when all this stuff first popped off. There were something like zero cases. I was joking that he's better off staying there.

    Lord knows i'm not defending Biden. And I can't stand Pelosi but I get sick and tired of keyboard politicos just making things up as they go along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.     It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated.

    How do you know Biden wanted the border open? And did you really say "Trump save God knows how many lives..." about Mexico?? My best friend was in Mexico when all this stuff first popped off. There were something like zero cases. I was joking that he's better off staying there.

    Lord knows i'm not defending Biden. And I can't stand Pelosi but I get sick and tired of keyboard politicos just making things up as they go along.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Yes. (40,000+) American citizens (many likely infected) were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also (on March 21).

    Pelosi and Biden wanted them open.

    Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.   

     

    The family & friends of a hockey goaltender complained in outrage when he wasn't named one of the 3 stars of the game in post-game ceremonies.

    Critics point to the 13 goals he allowed and his team lost 13-5.

    But his family & friends quickly point out that he PREVENTED 20 more goals from being scored because he stopped 20 shots on net....therefore he deserves to be named a star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Yes. (40,000+) American citizens (many likely infected) were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also (on March 21).

    Pelosi and Biden wanted them open.

    Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.   

     

    The family & friends of a hockey goaltender complained in outrage when he wasn't named one of the 3 stars of the game in post-game ceremonies.

    Critics point to the 13 goals he allowed and his team lost 13-5.

    But his family & friends quickly point out that he PREVENTED 20 more goals from being scored because he stopped 20 shots on net....therefore he deserves to be named a star.

     
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    His niece is a spoiled see you next tuesday.  Never raised a finger to do any work.  She's been collecting 70k a month since she turned 18,   she  blames uncle don for her daddy's death.. he did not want to be in the family business...  

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    His niece is a spoiled see you next tuesday.  Never raised a finger to do any work.  She's been collecting 70k a month since she turned 18,   she  blames uncle don for her daddy's death.. he did not want to be in the family business...  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.     It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated. How do you know Biden wanted the border open? And did you really say "Trump save God knows how many lives..." about Mexico?? My best friend was in Mexico when all this stuff first popped off. There were something like zero cases. I was joking that he's better off staying there. Lord knows i'm not defending Biden. And I can't stand Pelosi but I get sick and tired of keyboard politicos just making things up as they go along.

     

    biden is a Democrat. Nothing else needs to be said. Open borders . 44 years as a globalist. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.     It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated. How do you know Biden wanted the border open? And did you really say "Trump save God knows how many lives..." about Mexico?? My best friend was in Mexico when all this stuff first popped off. There were something like zero cases. I was joking that he's better off staying there. Lord knows i'm not defending Biden. And I can't stand Pelosi but I get sick and tired of keyboard politicos just making things up as they go along.

     

    biden is a Democrat. Nothing else needs to be said. Open borders . 44 years as a globalist. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Yes. (40,000+) American citizens (many likely infected) were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also (on March 21). Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.      The family & friends of a hockey goaltender complained in outrage when he wasn't named one of the 3 stars of the game in post-game ceremonies. Critics point to the 13 goals he allowed and his team lost 13-5. But his family & friends quickly point out that he PREVENTED 20 more goals from being scored because he stopped 20 shots on net....therefore he deserves to be named a star.

     

    quite the analogy. Hockey vs running AMERICA. Hmmmm. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Yes. (40,000+) American citizens (many likely infected) were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also (on March 21). Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.      The family & friends of a hockey goaltender complained in outrage when he wasn't named one of the 3 stars of the game in post-game ceremonies. Critics point to the 13 goals he allowed and his team lost 13-5. But his family & friends quickly point out that he PREVENTED 20 more goals from being scored because he stopped 20 shots on net....therefore he deserves to be named a star.

     

    quite the analogy. Hockey vs running AMERICA. Hmmmm. 

     
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    His niece is a spoiled see you next tuesday.  Never raised a finger to do any work.  She's been collecting 70k a month since she turned 18,   she  blames uncle don for her daddy's death.. he did not want to be in the family business...

     

    she showed a picture of herself on the sleeve of her book. Of course it was an old one. Then they showed her shopping. She is a blimp who looked as though she hadn’t showered in a week.

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    His niece is a spoiled see you next tuesday.  Never raised a finger to do any work.  She's been collecting 70k a month since she turned 18,   she  blames uncle don for her daddy's death.. he did not want to be in the family business...

     

    she showed a picture of herself on the sleeve of her book. Of course it was an old one. Then they showed her shopping. She is a blimp who looked as though she hadn’t showered in a week.

     
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    Here are some facts for you pre Chinese virus.....  Lowest unemployment in 50 years.. Lowest unemployment for blacks EVER Lowest unemployment for women  EVER      You're right FUBAR.  facts are non negotiable.   So, chew on that

     

    And Highest income inequality ever! 

    How about actual wage growth?

    Just so you know unemployment for Blacks and women has been on a downswing for the last 2 decades. 

    Trump's decline in unemployment percentage was actually less than Obama's during his first and last 4 years... but do not let facts get in the way of your silly argument. 

     

     

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    Here are some facts for you pre Chinese virus.....  Lowest unemployment in 50 years.. Lowest unemployment for blacks EVER Lowest unemployment for women  EVER      You're right FUBAR.  facts are non negotiable.   So, chew on that

     

    And Highest income inequality ever! 

    How about actual wage growth?

    Just so you know unemployment for Blacks and women has been on a downswing for the last 2 decades. 

    Trump's decline in unemployment percentage was actually less than Obama's during his first and last 4 years... but do not let facts get in the way of your silly argument. 

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.     It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated. How do you know Biden wanted the border open? And did you really say "Trump save God knows how many lives..." about Mexico?? My best friend was in Mexico when all this stuff first popped off. There were something like zero cases. I was joking that he's better off staying there. Lord knows i'm not defending Biden. And I can't stand Pelosi but I get sick and tired of keyboard politicos just making things up as they go along.   biden is a Democrat. Nothing else needs to be said. Open borders . 44 years as a globalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Yes. American citizens were allowed back in. But the border was closed from Mexico also. Pelosi and Biden wanted them open. Trumped saved God knows how many American lives there also. Especially after the virus took hold.     It’s ok. People hate Trump and no matter what, to these people, Trump is wrong. Life in America today. All because Hillary was defeated. How do you know Biden wanted the border open? And did you really say "Trump save God knows how many lives..." about Mexico?? My best friend was in Mexico when all this stuff first popped off. There were something like zero cases. I was joking that he's better off staying there. Lord knows i'm not defending Biden. And I can't stand Pelosi but I get sick and tired of keyboard politicos just making things up as they go along.   biden is a Democrat. Nothing else needs to be said. Open borders . 44 years as a globalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Here are some facts for you pre Chinese virus.....  Lowest unemployment in 50 years.. Lowest unemployment for blacks EVER Lowest unemployment for women  EVER      You're right FUBAR.  facts are non negotiable.   So, chew on that   And Highest income inequality ever!  How about actual wage growth? Just so you know unemployment for Blacks and women has been on a downswing for the last 2 decades.  Trump's decline in unemployment percentage was actually less than Obama's during his first and last 4 years... but do not let facts get in the way of your silly argument.

    It sucks when facts get in the way of your argument,  doesn't it ?!  you couldn't be more wrong !!!

     

     Working class is getting bigger paychecks and shrinking the wage gap
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue-collar-workers-wages-rising-inequality-shrinking-economy-column/1955329001/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Here are some facts for you pre Chinese virus.....  Lowest unemployment in 50 years.. Lowest unemployment for blacks EVER Lowest unemployment for women  EVER      You're right FUBAR.  facts are non negotiable.   So, chew on that   And Highest income inequality ever!  How about actual wage growth? Just so you know unemployment for Blacks and women has been on a downswing for the last 2 decades.  Trump's decline in unemployment percentage was actually less than Obama's during his first and last 4 years... but do not let facts get in the way of your silly argument.

    It sucks when facts get in the way of your argument,  doesn't it ?!  you couldn't be more wrong !!!

     

     Working class is getting bigger paychecks and shrinking the wage gap
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue-collar-workers-wages-rising-inequality-shrinking-economy-column/1955329001/

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
     " And Highest income inequality ever!  but do not let facts get in the way of your silly argument."

     

    It sucks when facts get in the way of your argument,  doesn't it ?! 

    you couldn't be more wrong !

     

    Well YOU outta know...

    Notwithstanding the link YOU posted was just an opinion piece by some dude named, Gad Levanon, and from almost a year ago, which was NOT a research study...

    Source: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2020/01/09/trends-in-income-and-wealth-inequality/

    ...here are some newer FACTS by the reknowned PEW RESEARCH CENTER published *THIS YEAR* (prior to the trump-virus)

    ** "The growth in income in recent decades has tilted to upper-income households. At the same time, the U.S. middle class, which once comprised the clear majority of Americans, is shrinking. Thus, a greater share of the nation’s aggregate income is now going to upper-income households and the share going to middle- and lower-income households is falling."

    ** "From 1970 to 2018, the share of aggregate income going to upper-income households increased from 29% to 48%. Over the same period, the share going to middle-class households fell from 62% to 43%.  And the share flowing to lower-income households inched down from 10% in 1970 to 9% in 2018.

    These trends in income reflect the growth in economic inequality overall in the U.S. in the decades since 1980.

    ** Income growth has been most rapid for the top 5% of families. Even among higher-income families, the growth in income has favored those at the top. Since 1980, incomes have increased faster for the most affluent families – those in the top 5% – than for families in the income strata below them. This disparity in outcomes is less pronounced in the wake of the Great Recession but shows no signs of reversing.

    ** The wealth gap between upper-income and lower- and middle-income families has grown wider this century.

    ** As a result, the wealth gap between America’s richest and poorer families more than doubled from 1989 to 2016.

    **Income inequality in the U.S has increased since 1980 and is greater than in peer countries

    ** Income inequality may be measured in a number of ways, but no matter the measure, economic inequality in the U.S. is seen to be on the rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
     " And Highest income inequality ever!  but do not let facts get in the way of your silly argument."

     

    It sucks when facts get in the way of your argument,  doesn't it ?! 

    you couldn't be more wrong !

     

    Well YOU outta know...

    Notwithstanding the link YOU posted was just an opinion piece by some dude named, Gad Levanon, and from almost a year ago, which was NOT a research study...

    Source: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2020/01/09/trends-in-income-and-wealth-inequality/

    ...here are some newer FACTS by the reknowned PEW RESEARCH CENTER published *THIS YEAR* (prior to the trump-virus)

    ** "The growth in income in recent decades has tilted to upper-income households. At the same time, the U.S. middle class, which once comprised the clear majority of Americans, is shrinking. Thus, a greater share of the nation’s aggregate income is now going to upper-income households and the share going to middle- and lower-income households is falling."

    ** "From 1970 to 2018, the share of aggregate income going to upper-income households increased from 29% to 48%. Over the same period, the share going to middle-class households fell from 62% to 43%.  And the share flowing to lower-income households inched down from 10% in 1970 to 9% in 2018.

    These trends in income reflect the growth in economic inequality overall in the U.S. in the decades since 1980.

    ** Income growth has been most rapid for the top 5% of families. Even among higher-income families, the growth in income has favored those at the top. Since 1980, incomes have increased faster for the most affluent families – those in the top 5% – than for families in the income strata below them. This disparity in outcomes is less pronounced in the wake of the Great Recession but shows no signs of reversing.

    ** The wealth gap between upper-income and lower- and middle-income families has grown wider this century.

    ** As a result, the wealth gap between America’s richest and poorer families more than doubled from 1989 to 2016.

    **Income inequality in the U.S has increased since 1980 and is greater than in peer countries

    ** Income inequality may be measured in a number of ways, but no matter the measure, economic inequality in the U.S. is seen to be on the rise.

     
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    Pre covid.   USA was humming 

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    Pre covid.   USA was humming 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Pre covid.   USA was humming

    Who is debating that?  The name of the game has always been what have you done for me lately?  Trump was cruising to re-election before he was hit with a crisis to show what kind of leader he is.  I'm sorry but the dude has not done well and that is reflective at the polls too.  His only saving grace is he has a chance to recover before November.  He can't win with his base alone but he seems to think that which is odd.  Joe Biden is an awful candidate as Hillary was but the problem is, people have seen Trump for almost 4 years now so he's not the dark horse anymore.

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    Pre covid.   USA was humming

    Who is debating that?  The name of the game has always been what have you done for me lately?  Trump was cruising to re-election before he was hit with a crisis to show what kind of leader he is.  I'm sorry but the dude has not done well and that is reflective at the polls too.  His only saving grace is he has a chance to recover before November.  He can't win with his base alone but he seems to think that which is odd.  Joe Biden is an awful candidate as Hillary was but the problem is, people have seen Trump for almost 4 years now so he's not the dark horse anymore.

     
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    Sad we have 300 million people and the best we offer is biden and trump.  Do I think he could handle this better?? Yes.... my problem is the Democrats out their party ahead of the constituents.   In a time of need , to unify... they rather let their cities turn to crap.  Their hatred for trump allowed for people to lose their businesses and ultimately lives.    Trump repeatedly offered help but they refused.  I think if the Democrats would have worked with trump ,we would be in a much better place.    To the Democrats that is no good so they risk the people's livelihoods rather than their own.

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    Sad we have 300 million people and the best we offer is biden and trump.  Do I think he could handle this better?? Yes.... my problem is the Democrats out their party ahead of the constituents.   In a time of need , to unify... they rather let their cities turn to crap.  Their hatred for trump allowed for people to lose their businesses and ultimately lives.    Trump repeatedly offered help but they refused.  I think if the Democrats would have worked with trump ,we would be in a much better place.    To the Democrats that is no good so they risk the people's livelihoods rather than their own.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Sad we have 300 million people and the best we offer is biden and trump.  Do I think he could handle this better?? Yes.... my problem is the Democrats out their party ahead of the constituents.   In a time of need , to unify... they rather let their cities turn to crap.  Their hatred for trump allowed for people to lose their businesses and ultimately lives.    Trump repeatedly offered help but they refused.  I think if the Democrats would have worked with trump ,we would be in a much better place.    To the Democrats that is no good so they risk the people's livelihoods rather than their own.

     

    The beauty of the forum is that one can express themselves in an honest and decent environment. You are 100% correct in your assessment. The Democrats prefer to destroy American lives and American cities simply to regain power over the people. No President has faced this type of adversity. Yet he still managed to save American lives. TDS is as real as Covid. 
         There is hatred in politics like never before. Had the Democrats accepted defeat and did the jobs they are paid to do, things would be much better. Much better than the chaos created by Pelosi and Schumer and their Gang of Marxists. 

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    Sad we have 300 million people and the best we offer is biden and trump.  Do I think he could handle this better?? Yes.... my problem is the Democrats out their party ahead of the constituents.   In a time of need , to unify... they rather let their cities turn to crap.  Their hatred for trump allowed for people to lose their businesses and ultimately lives.    Trump repeatedly offered help but they refused.  I think if the Democrats would have worked with trump ,we would be in a much better place.    To the Democrats that is no good so they risk the people's livelihoods rather than their own.

     

    The beauty of the forum is that one can express themselves in an honest and decent environment. You are 100% correct in your assessment. The Democrats prefer to destroy American lives and American cities simply to regain power over the people. No President has faced this type of adversity. Yet he still managed to save American lives. TDS is as real as Covid. 
         There is hatred in politics like never before. Had the Democrats accepted defeat and did the jobs they are paid to do, things would be much better. Much better than the chaos created by Pelosi and Schumer and their Gang of Marxists. 

     
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    I'm not a trump person.  I look at the big picture and it's not good.   This president has been under attack since day 1and yet things were still getting done.   Just sickening what's going on  

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    I'm not a trump person.  I look at the big picture and it's not good.   This president has been under attack since day 1and yet things were still getting done.   Just sickening what's going on  

     
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    Republicans held ALL the power in 2017 & 2018 and accomplished diddly squat.

    Now you are trying to blame Democrats for the continued failure of this administration. So quit whining for cripes sake.

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    Republicans held ALL the power in 2017 & 2018 and accomplished diddly squat.

    Now you are trying to blame Democrats for the continued failure of this administration. So quit whining for cripes sake.

    Homey Don't Play That

     
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    Not sure who directly you are pointing at.   We were humming before this.  I'm not saying trump is great .... but ....can you agree the dems played a helpful hand in all this ??  The media ???    In a time of crisis , we supposed to come together...   at least he tried .... the dems allowed cities become shit.  Seattle nyc Minneapolis to name a few...     did not have to happen but their leaders rather watch its cities burn rather admit trump maybe right...  Do not care what political party you are, in long run we are all humans...

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    Not sure who directly you are pointing at.   We were humming before this.  I'm not saying trump is great .... but ....can you agree the dems played a helpful hand in all this ??  The media ???    In a time of crisis , we supposed to come together...   at least he tried .... the dems allowed cities become shit.  Seattle nyc Minneapolis to name a few...     did not have to happen but their leaders rather watch its cities burn rather admit trump maybe right...  Do not care what political party you are, in long run we are all humans...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Republicans held ALL the power in 2017 & 2018 and accomplished diddly squat. Now you are trying to blame Democrats for the continued failure of this administration. So quit whining for cripes sake. Homey Don't Play That

    It's weird how many people forget that.  Politics are a bitch.

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    Republicans held ALL the power in 2017 & 2018 and accomplished diddly squat. Now you are trying to blame Democrats for the continued failure of this administration. So quit whining for cripes sake. Homey Don't Play That

    It's weird how many people forget that.  Politics are a bitch.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Not sure who directly you are pointing at.   We were humming before this.  I'm not saying trump is great .... but ....can you agree the dems played a helpful hand in all this ??  The media ???    In a time of crisis , we supposed to come together...   at least he tried .... the dems allowed cities become shit.  Seattle nyc Minneapolis to name a few...     did not have to happen but their leaders rather watch its cities burn rather admit trump maybe right...  Do not care what political party you are, in long run we are all humans...

    I'm directing my comments to all of the Trump enablers who continue to support him while looking to blame others for his failures. He already told the country he doesn't take responsibility for anything. How can anyone support a liar & thief who stole from a child's cancer charity?

    The Democrats! The Media! China! The Supreme Court!

    Blaming everyone else except Trump doesn't cut the mustard with Americans who are fed up with this POS.

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    Not sure who directly you are pointing at.   We were humming before this.  I'm not saying trump is great .... but ....can you agree the dems played a helpful hand in all this ??  The media ???    In a time of crisis , we supposed to come together...   at least he tried .... the dems allowed cities become shit.  Seattle nyc Minneapolis to name a few...     did not have to happen but their leaders rather watch its cities burn rather admit trump maybe right...  Do not care what political party you are, in long run we are all humans...

    I'm directing my comments to all of the Trump enablers who continue to support him while looking to blame others for his failures. He already told the country he doesn't take responsibility for anything. How can anyone support a liar & thief who stole from a child's cancer charity?

    The Democrats! The Media! China! The Supreme Court!

    Blaming everyone else except Trump doesn't cut the mustard with Americans who are fed up with this POS.

     
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    2024 who we looking at??    This year election is the lesser of 2 evils...    I really do hope we make it to then.  There's a lot of hatred out there.    The American people are the ones who is paying the price.  Bidens crew wants some things that are outright wrong.  His support staff wants anarchy.    1 thing I believe is a necessity is all vets should receive free health care... they are more important than athletes , movie stars etc..

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    2024 who we looking at??    This year election is the lesser of 2 evils...    I really do hope we make it to then.  There's a lot of hatred out there.    The American people are the ones who is paying the price.  Bidens crew wants some things that are outright wrong.  His support staff wants anarchy.    1 thing I believe is a necessity is all vets should receive free health care... they are more important than athletes , movie stars etc..

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Republicans held ALL the power in 2017 & 2018 and accomplished diddly squat. Now you are trying to blame Democrats for the continued failure of this administration. So quit whining for cripes sake. Homey Don't Play That

    Tax Cuts were passed during those 2 years.  Who doesn't like a tax deduction ?   (Democrats)

    DEMS will gleefully pay more of their income to the Government !! 

     

    YOU can't make this Stuff Up !!!  

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    Republicans held ALL the power in 2017 & 2018 and accomplished diddly squat. Now you are trying to blame Democrats for the continued failure of this administration. So quit whining for cripes sake. Homey Don't Play That

    Tax Cuts were passed during those 2 years.  Who doesn't like a tax deduction ?   (Democrats)

    DEMS will gleefully pay more of their income to the Government !! 

     

    YOU can't make this Stuff Up !!!  

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