@DeezyAZ81 The facts prove otherwise to your assertion that mass shooters are always from the white race...actually there are stats out there: https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
He wasn't referring to simply mass shooters. He was referring to racially motivated mass shooters. Like this guy. Like Dylann Roof. Like Brenton Tarrant.
True, if a gang member shoots up a group of rival gang members, it is a mass shooting. And it's horrible. That's not what's being talked about here though. What is it with the "Whataboutism"? Why are trying to lessen what this kid did? Why are you and Aron trying to deflect?
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
@DeezyAZ81 The facts prove otherwise to your assertion that mass shooters are always from the white race...actually there are stats out there: https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
He wasn't referring to simply mass shooters. He was referring to racially motivated mass shooters. Like this guy. Like Dylann Roof. Like Brenton Tarrant.
True, if a gang member shoots up a group of rival gang members, it is a mass shooting. And it's horrible. That's not what's being talked about here though. What is it with the "Whataboutism"? Why are trying to lessen what this kid did? Why are you and Aron trying to deflect?
Point well taken and you are correct. His point was mass shootings aimed at a specific racial group.
I am not trying to lessen anything...just putting it into perspective...what upsets me is that over 74 million voters who voted for Trump are being called white supremacists...is that okay with you? Does that seem accurate to you?
Biden and others are demonizing the entire white race now which is a form of racism in itself. Blacks were/are the victims of this kind of sloppy and unfair thinking (generalizing about an entire race).
To generalize about any race as this or that is morally wrong and leads to the building of places like Dachau, Auschwitz, Buchenwald...I am afraid that there are some folks on here that would be in 7th heaven if Trump supporters were taken to the gas showers Nazi deathcamp style.
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@StumpTownStu
Point well taken and you are correct. His point was mass shootings aimed at a specific racial group.
I am not trying to lessen anything...just putting it into perspective...what upsets me is that over 74 million voters who voted for Trump are being called white supremacists...is that okay with you? Does that seem accurate to you?
Biden and others are demonizing the entire white race now which is a form of racism in itself. Blacks were/are the victims of this kind of sloppy and unfair thinking (generalizing about an entire race).
To generalize about any race as this or that is morally wrong and leads to the building of places like Dachau, Auschwitz, Buchenwald...I am afraid that there are some folks on here that would be in 7th heaven if Trump supporters were taken to the gas showers Nazi deathcamp style.
@StumpTownStu Our Overlords, the ones who use political puppets in office, use racial divides as the way to divide and conquer us. It works and as long as we are at each others' throats, we will never unite and go after our common enemy which is them.
So don't buy into. I don't. It doesn't mean you have to deflect. It plays as a defense of a psychopath. Nobody in their right mind believes that all white people are racists. Nobody in their right mind believes all Trump supporters are racists. There are powers that seek to divide us, along racial lines, political lines, religious belief, sex, sexual orientation, etc. This act was an example of the endgame. No, it isn't indicative of our nation as a whole but the more you deflect from it, you are contributing to the problem through minimizing it.
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
@StumpTownStu Our Overlords, the ones who use political puppets in office, use racial divides as the way to divide and conquer us. It works and as long as we are at each others' throats, we will never unite and go after our common enemy which is them.
So don't buy into. I don't. It doesn't mean you have to deflect. It plays as a defense of a psychopath. Nobody in their right mind believes that all white people are racists. Nobody in their right mind believes all Trump supporters are racists. There are powers that seek to divide us, along racial lines, political lines, religious belief, sex, sexual orientation, etc. This act was an example of the endgame. No, it isn't indicative of our nation as a whole but the more you deflect from it, you are contributing to the problem through minimizing it.
It was no gang member who drove through old white ladies in Wisconsin, it was no gang member who shot up a subway he targeted because it was full of Latinos and Asians.
But here ya boys you ........finally, finally got your White Supremacist!!! Milk it boys!!! Forgot all the rest!!! Forget Kyle Whittenhouse was a stupid kid ALLOWED to walk the street with a weapon because YOU wanted no police! And he shot white people attacking him. Just lump it all together. And don't forget to trash Tucker Carlson, oh what a day it must be for you!
If this sick kid had a manifesto published on line no DOUBT the FBI was on to him. Wonder if they encouraged him like they did in Garland Texas?
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It was no gang member who drove through old white ladies in Wisconsin, it was no gang member who shot up a subway he targeted because it was full of Latinos and Asians.
But here ya boys you ........finally, finally got your White Supremacist!!! Milk it boys!!! Forgot all the rest!!! Forget Kyle Whittenhouse was a stupid kid ALLOWED to walk the street with a weapon because YOU wanted no police! And he shot white people attacking him. Just lump it all together. And don't forget to trash Tucker Carlson, oh what a day it must be for you!
If this sick kid had a manifesto published on line no DOUBT the FBI was on to him. Wonder if they encouraged him like they did in Garland Texas?
FBI has long recognized white supremacists as the top domestic terrorism threat in the US. Mass shooting is enabled by loose gun laws and a gun culture that empowers white supremacy. Too easy for deranged people fueled by racist conspiracy theories to access guns to commit murders. Obviously, gun laws should be tougher which have proven effective in reducing gun violence in other countries. Social media companies have a responsibility to be more vigilant in monitoring hateful content that incites violence.
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FBI has long recognized white supremacists as the top domestic terrorism threat in the US. Mass shooting is enabled by loose gun laws and a gun culture that empowers white supremacy. Too easy for deranged people fueled by racist conspiracy theories to access guns to commit murders. Obviously, gun laws should be tougher which have proven effective in reducing gun violence in other countries. Social media companies have a responsibility to be more vigilant in monitoring hateful content that incites violence.
@StumpTownStu Point well taken and you are correct. His point was mass shootings aimed at a specific racial group. I am not trying to lessen anything...just putting it into perspective...what upsets me is that over 74 million voters who voted for Trump are being called white supremacists...is that okay with you? Does that seem accurate to you? Biden and others are demonizing the entire white race now which is a form of racism in itself. Blacks were/are the victims of this kind of sloppy and unfair thinking (generalizing about an entire race). To generalize about any race as this or that is morally wrong and leads to the building of places like Dachau, Auschwitz, Buchenwald...I am afraid that there are some folks on here that would be in 7th heaven if Trump supporters were taken to the gas showers Nazi deathcamp style.
I believe you said it right.
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
@StumpTownStu Point well taken and you are correct. His point was mass shootings aimed at a specific racial group. I am not trying to lessen anything...just putting it into perspective...what upsets me is that over 74 million voters who voted for Trump are being called white supremacists...is that okay with you? Does that seem accurate to you? Biden and others are demonizing the entire white race now which is a form of racism in itself. Blacks were/are the victims of this kind of sloppy and unfair thinking (generalizing about an entire race). To generalize about any race as this or that is morally wrong and leads to the building of places like Dachau, Auschwitz, Buchenwald...I am afraid that there are some folks on here that would be in 7th heaven if Trump supporters were taken to the gas showers Nazi deathcamp style.
What is wrong with all of you? Why can't everyone come together and just say an act was horrible? Why must so many people jump up to essentially defend a racist psychopathic killer through deflection. What is it with the "What about..." defense?
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@UNIMAN
Got your white supremacists?
What about Dylann Roof?
What is wrong with all of you? Why can't everyone come together and just say an act was horrible? Why must so many people jump up to essentially defend a racist psychopathic killer through deflection. What is it with the "What about..." defense?
I am not the problem, why not go after the racialists on this thread who wish to demonize all whites? I am not deflecting...but I am defending against those who wish to demonize the entire white race over the acts of psychopaths...
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@StumpTownStu
I am not the problem, why not go after the racialists on this thread who wish to demonize all whites? I am not deflecting...but I am defending against those who wish to demonize the entire white race over the acts of psychopaths...
New York State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins wrote in a statement:
"This targeted attack against Black Americans is not a new phenomenon in this country, and now is the time that we as a nation come together to confront this hatred."
here we go again
outrage
lots of talk for a week about changes needed
and in the end what happens ? nothing
so we wait until the next mass shooting
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
New York State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins wrote in a statement:
"This targeted attack against Black Americans is not a new phenomenon in this country, and now is the time that we as a nation come together to confront this hatred."
He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show. Except he calls it the Great Replacement theory. Same thing. It's basically an old White Supremist idea that has been updated. The idea is that somehow, nonwhite people or outsiders or strangers or foreigners will overtake the United States via immigration, reproduction and seizure of political power. The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order. And in the meantime they get plenty of encouragement with the hate spewed by the GQP. That’s the immigration fear. Losing numerical advantage. It’s behind stopping abortion. IMO.
Yes, were all waiting for Trumps final order. Like when he said get the vaccine. And stopping abortion will mean less people of color, no idiot, it will mean more. Such ignorant words.
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
He is a self-described white supremist who traveled to a black neighborhood and murdered 10 people. I haven't read it yet, but he left behind a manifesto on the White Replacement theory. Which is a racist conspiracy theory that has been endorsed repeatedly by Tucker Carlson on his show. Except he calls it the Great Replacement theory. Same thing. It's basically an old White Supremist idea that has been updated. The idea is that somehow, nonwhite people or outsiders or strangers or foreigners will overtake the United States via immigration, reproduction and seizure of political power. The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order. And in the meantime they get plenty of encouragement with the hate spewed by the GQP. That’s the immigration fear. Losing numerical advantage. It’s behind stopping abortion. IMO.
Yes, were all waiting for Trumps final order. Like when he said get the vaccine. And stopping abortion will mean less people of color, no idiot, it will mean more. Such ignorant words.
FBI has long recognized white supremacists as the top domestic terrorism threat in the US. Mass shooting is enabled by loose gun laws and a gun culture that empowers white supremacy. Too easy for deranged people fueled by racist conspiracy theories to access guns to commit murders. Obviously, gun laws should be tougher which have proven effective in reducing gun violence in other countries. Social media companies have a responsibility to be more vigilant in monitoring hateful content that incites violence.
i believe u said it right as usual
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
FBI has long recognized white supremacists as the top domestic terrorism threat in the US. Mass shooting is enabled by loose gun laws and a gun culture that empowers white supremacy. Too easy for deranged people fueled by racist conspiracy theories to access guns to commit murders. Obviously, gun laws should be tougher which have proven effective in reducing gun violence in other countries. Social media companies have a responsibility to be more vigilant in monitoring hateful content that incites violence.
@StumpTownStu I am not the problem, why not go after the racialists on this thread who wish to demonize all whites? I am not deflecting...but I am defending against those who wish to demonize the entire white race over the acts of psychopaths...
More deflection. Who are these racist that aim to demonize all whites? I'll gladly tell them that white people are awesome. I'll gladly tell them that most Trump supporters are awesome. Will that keep you from playing the victim? Likening yourself to Jewish people in concentration camps?
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
@StumpTownStu I am not the problem, why not go after the racialists on this thread who wish to demonize all whites? I am not deflecting...but I am defending against those who wish to demonize the entire white race over the acts of psychopaths...
More deflection. Who are these racist that aim to demonize all whites? I'll gladly tell them that white people are awesome. I'll gladly tell them that most Trump supporters are awesome. Will that keep you from playing the victim? Likening yourself to Jewish people in concentration camps?
The Buffalo shooter published a manifesto which showed support for the same symbols used by the Nazi Azov Battalion in Ukraine. He also expressed hatred for those against US military involvement in the Ukraine conflict.
In other words, he supported the globalist agenda in Ukraine and showed sympathy for Nazi elements in-country.
The shooter also expressed hatred for Fox News, which is opposite what mainstream reporting is putting out.
“On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category…”~~~
The Buffalo shooter published a manifesto which showed support for the same symbols used by the Nazi Azov Battalion in Ukraine. He also expressed hatred for those against US military involvement in the Ukraine conflict.
In other words, he supported the globalist agenda in Ukraine and showed sympathy for Nazi elements in-country.
The shooter also expressed hatred for Fox News, which is opposite what mainstream reporting is putting out.
“On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category…”~~~
@UNIMAN Got your white supremacists? What about Dylann Roof? What is wrong with all of you? Why can't everyone come together and just say an act was horrible? Why must so many people jump up to essentially defend a racist psychopathic killer through deflection. What is it with the "What about..." defense?
I sure as hell can. It was one sick kid. Just like the subway was one sick person. You don't see the conservatives here saying the greatest threat is blacks hating and killing whites, but oh man you get one sick kid and let me quote:" And it seems it's open season on black people." "The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order." "bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal".
And I get upset and then you call ME out, WTF
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
@UNIMAN Got your white supremacists? What about Dylann Roof? What is wrong with all of you? Why can't everyone come together and just say an act was horrible? Why must so many people jump up to essentially defend a racist psychopathic killer through deflection. What is it with the "What about..." defense?
I sure as hell can. It was one sick kid. Just like the subway was one sick person. You don't see the conservatives here saying the greatest threat is blacks hating and killing whites, but oh man you get one sick kid and let me quote:" And it seems it's open season on black people." "The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order." "bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal".
The Buffalo shooter published a manifesto which showed support for the same symbols used by the Nazi Azov Battalion in Ukraine. He also expressed hatred for those against US military involvement in the Ukraine conflict. In other words, he supported the globalist agenda in Ukraine and showed sympathy for Nazi elements in-country. The shooter also expressed hatred for Fox News, which is opposite what mainstream reporting is putting out. “On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category…”~~~ This is a direct quote from the shooter...does this sound like a Trump supporter to you??? https://creativedestructionmedia.com/analysis/2022/05/14/buffalo-shooter-references-ukrainian-azov-battalion-nazi-symbols-hated-those-opposing-us-involvement-in-ukraine-conflict/
Are you really gullible enough to fall for the misdirection of a child? He new how his actions would be characterized so he ran the old 42 fake. Find me one person on the left who refers to themselves as an "authoritarian leftist". It's a negative classification. Don't be so gullible.
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
The Buffalo shooter published a manifesto which showed support for the same symbols used by the Nazi Azov Battalion in Ukraine. He also expressed hatred for those against US military involvement in the Ukraine conflict. In other words, he supported the globalist agenda in Ukraine and showed sympathy for Nazi elements in-country. The shooter also expressed hatred for Fox News, which is opposite what mainstream reporting is putting out. “On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category…”~~~ This is a direct quote from the shooter...does this sound like a Trump supporter to you??? https://creativedestructionmedia.com/analysis/2022/05/14/buffalo-shooter-references-ukrainian-azov-battalion-nazi-symbols-hated-those-opposing-us-involvement-in-ukraine-conflict/
Are you really gullible enough to fall for the misdirection of a child? He new how his actions would be characterized so he ran the old 42 fake. Find me one person on the left who refers to themselves as an "authoritarian leftist". It's a negative classification. Don't be so gullible.
Read a few posts from the other contributors in this thread above and you will find all of the anti white animus that is being spread now by MSM. They glory in pushing this narrative 24/7...labeling people racist is just another way to marginalize and character assassinate them...
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@StumpTownStu
Read a few posts from the other contributors in this thread above and you will find all of the anti white animus that is being spread now by MSM. They glory in pushing this narrative 24/7...labeling people racist is just another way to marginalize and character assassinate them...
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @UNIMAN Got your white supremacists? What about Dylann Roof? What is wrong with all of you? Why can't everyone come together and just say an act was horrible? Why must so many people jump up to essentially defend a racist psychopathic killer through deflection. What is it with the "What about..." defense? I sure as hell can. It was one sick kid. Just like the subway was one sick person. You don't see the conservatives here saying the greatest threat is blacks hating and killing whites, but oh man you get one sick kid and let me quote:" And it seems it's open season on black people." "The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order." "bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal". And I get upset and then you call ME out, WTF
Be better. That's a ridiculous statement. It went over my head because I don't have the same rapport with the poster as I do with you. So I didn't pay as close attention to their post.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @UNIMAN Got your white supremacists? What about Dylann Roof? What is wrong with all of you? Why can't everyone come together and just say an act was horrible? Why must so many people jump up to essentially defend a racist psychopathic killer through deflection. What is it with the "What about..." defense? I sure as hell can. It was one sick kid. Just like the subway was one sick person. You don't see the conservatives here saying the greatest threat is blacks hating and killing whites, but oh man you get one sick kid and let me quote:" And it seems it's open season on black people." "The scary part is that there are thousands of this kind waiting for Trump's final order." "bet my life savings that this malevolent, mass-murdering maniac isn't a liberal". And I get upset and then you call ME out, WTF
Be better. That's a ridiculous statement. It went over my head because I don't have the same rapport with the poster as I do with you. So I didn't pay as close attention to their post.
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings.
Minorities often times are the receiving end of these mass shootings, military grade assault rifles, such as AR-15, have involved in many of these shootings.
too much gun violence
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Definitely not people of "all races" engaging in these racially motivated mass shootings.
Minorities often times are the receiving end of these mass shootings, military grade assault rifles, such as AR-15, have involved in many of these shootings.
Sick individuals and serial killers come in all shapes, genders, races, etc. They can kill with guns, knives, vehicles, bombs, you name it.
Prostitution laws do not stop prostitution, drug laws do not stop drugs, and gun laws do not stop guns. Chicago anyone? We know that to be true. How about identifying and addressing the "root" problems? End the hate, end the division.
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I don't need any coaching from you, thank you.
Sick individuals and serial killers come in all shapes, genders, races, etc. They can kill with guns, knives, vehicles, bombs, you name it.
Prostitution laws do not stop prostitution, drug laws do not stop drugs, and gun laws do not stop guns. Chicago anyone? We know that to be true. How about identifying and addressing the "root" problems? End the hate, end the division.
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