Border has gotten worse and this administration has only allowed and encouraged it.
Biden has maintained almost everything that was in place from Trump and other presidents. Even before Biden assumed office, border patrol saw more arrests and crossings after Trump wall went up than most months before Trump wall. According to Cato institute, illegal immigration would disappear if legal channels are greatly expanded. That is the only reform for lasting progress at south border. However for decades, congress has rejected immigration reforms.
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Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:
Border has gotten worse and this administration has only allowed and encouraged it.
Biden has maintained almost everything that was in place from Trump and other presidents. Even before Biden assumed office, border patrol saw more arrests and crossings after Trump wall went up than most months before Trump wall. According to Cato institute, illegal immigration would disappear if legal channels are greatly expanded. That is the only reform for lasting progress at south border. However for decades, congress has rejected immigration reforms.
@DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster.
The your side, their side talk does not really help either.
I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless.
Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership, yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster.
The your side, their side talk does not really help either.
I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless.
Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership, yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster. The your side, their side talk does not really help either. I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless. Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership,yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies.
Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates.
Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!!
Then on Jan 7th;
Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit?
Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster. The your side, their side talk does not really help either. I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless. Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership,yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies.
Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates.
Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!!
Then on Jan 7th;
Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit?
Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
Have to laugh when I hear that Joe never discussed business with Hunter or the folks he was in business with.
So what exactly would be "business talk" for Hunter???
Archer explained he coordinated moving equipment across country, hooking up with a Texas firm, etc for Burisma. So what did Hunter do??? He sold the "brand". Or in this case, "the Brandon".
Hunter sold access to DC, i.e. his father. "Oh look, daddy's calling me now. Say HI, daddy!"
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Have to laugh when I hear that Joe never discussed business with Hunter or the folks he was in business with.
So what exactly would be "business talk" for Hunter???
Archer explained he coordinated moving equipment across country, hooking up with a Texas firm, etc for Burisma. So what did Hunter do??? He sold the "brand". Or in this case, "the Brandon".
Hunter sold access to DC, i.e. his father. "Oh look, daddy's calling me now. Say HI, daddy!"
So are you angry that Biden did this corrupt stuff, are you angry that DEMS do this corrupt stuff or are you angry that any politician including Trump, the Bush clan, Reagan and his pals did it...
If you are angry then be angry about corruption not just that some guy from the party you hate did and does it. For SURE Biden is as guilty as they come, but what does the concept of corruption mean to a partisan person like you?
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@UNIMAN
So are you angry that Biden did this corrupt stuff, are you angry that DEMS do this corrupt stuff or are you angry that any politician including Trump, the Bush clan, Reagan and his pals did it...
If you are angry then be angry about corruption not just that some guy from the party you hate did and does it. For SURE Biden is as guilty as they come, but what does the concept of corruption mean to a partisan person like you?
Can I please get the 'Covers' definition of partisan? It seems to me the Lefties in the very hallowed pages of Covers are allowed to be partisan. Just way too many of examples inside the politics forum to start posting them. Thanks in advance!
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Can I please get the 'Covers' definition of partisan? It seems to me the Lefties in the very hallowed pages of Covers are allowed to be partisan. Just way too many of examples inside the politics forum to start posting them. Thanks in advance!
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster. The your side, their side talk does not really help either. I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless. Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership, yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies. Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
But only when you present the left w/ the very history or facts we claim to reject, they run away w/ tail between legs.
Well done, UNIMAN.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing, and afflicts millions of lefties.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster. The your side, their side talk does not really help either. I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless. Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership, yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies. Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
But only when you present the left w/ the very history or facts we claim to reject, they run away w/ tail between legs.
Well done, UNIMAN.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing, and afflicts millions of lefties.
For a reference post 532 is partisan, almost anything posted from you or UNIMAN is partisan, most all things posted by Kelly or Fubah are partisan, hell for the most part all posts here are.
A great example of partisan in this case is when one politician does a dirty and half of the audience is outraged, the other seem indifferent..when an example of another dirty from a different party is discussed, the ratio changes but the outcome is the same.
You are 100% partisan sundance and I would consider giving thought about your racist edge too, I know you are older but that kind of mindset is no longer accepted in society including your own party.
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@sundance
For a reference post 532 is partisan, almost anything posted from you or UNIMAN is partisan, most all things posted by Kelly or Fubah are partisan, hell for the most part all posts here are.
A great example of partisan in this case is when one politician does a dirty and half of the audience is outraged, the other seem indifferent..when an example of another dirty from a different party is discussed, the ratio changes but the outcome is the same.
You are 100% partisan sundance and I would consider giving thought about your racist edge too, I know you are older but that kind of mindset is no longer accepted in society including your own party.
Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden.
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster. The your side, their side talk does not really help either. I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless. Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership, yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies. Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @DeezyAZ81 While that is true, your side is not any different...so remove Trump and a bit of a negative combative edge and its still the same with your lot. I do not see many solutions from the left and much of the same finger pointing and blaming. If an on looker from say Germany who had zero knowledge of US politics were to view the threads in this forum it is easy to see that there is a solid divide and neither side is adding much of true, real value in making things better. I know this is just a little chatter sandbox and what the little folk here think means nothing but this is also society in a microcosm and is a solid indicator of how we vote and how we make decisions, and based on that reality this country will continue to go down the crapper as a divided partisan disaster. The your side, their side talk does not really help either. I was simply speaking about Scooby specifically in this post because he never actually embraces discussion, debate or solutions, as you know. I try to spark discussion with facts and history, but usually with Trumpers it's just outright rejection of history or facts, so really I've stopped trying. No point. Why not just do away with this forum since it's pointless really? This thread is perfect illustration if why it's useless. Border has been bad for the last 3+ decades under both party leadership, yet when you point that out today all you get is..Biden bad,,,Hunter Biden. Preprogrammed zombies. Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023 Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden.
@DeezyAZ81
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023 Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden.
Arrogance... same bozo gave the crackhead a sweetheart deal, .. they truly believe the American people are idiots. Guess you probably can when you control the the justice department. Another opportunity to unify wasted.
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Arrogance... same bozo gave the crackhead a sweetheart deal, .. they truly believe the American people are idiots. Guess you probably can when you control the the justice department. Another opportunity to unify wasted.
@UNIMAN So are you angry that Biden did this corrupt stuff, are you angry that DEMS do this corrupt stuff or are you angry that any politician including Trump, the Bush clan, Reagan and his pals did it... If you are angry then be angry about corruption not just that some guy from the party you hate did and does it. For SURE Biden is as guilty as they come, but what does the concept of corruption mean to a partisan person like you?
If politics made me angry I wouldn't be here.
And not so much "Biden did corrupt stuff" as much as "There is no evidence Biden did corrupt stuff". If you are admitting Biden did corrupt stuff (which I am not saying you are but it comes across that way) then you are admitting that the majority of our United States news media are lying to cover for him, our FBI is covering for him, and our DOJ is covering for him. Now that angers me more than any actual corruption.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@UNIMAN So are you angry that Biden did this corrupt stuff, are you angry that DEMS do this corrupt stuff or are you angry that any politician including Trump, the Bush clan, Reagan and his pals did it... If you are angry then be angry about corruption not just that some guy from the party you hate did and does it. For SURE Biden is as guilty as they come, but what does the concept of corruption mean to a partisan person like you?
If politics made me angry I wouldn't be here.
And not so much "Biden did corrupt stuff" as much as "There is no evidence Biden did corrupt stuff". If you are admitting Biden did corrupt stuff (which I am not saying you are but it comes across that way) then you are admitting that the majority of our United States news media are lying to cover for him, our FBI is covering for him, and our DOJ is covering for him. Now that angers me more than any actual corruption.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023 Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden.
False. Drug overdose deaths "fell" in calendar years 2018 & 2019(from 2017) under Trump. No drop had ever occurred in the previous calendar years since 1999. And who ever would said Fentanyl would "stop" coming across. What a dumb comment.
So, stop stewing your garbage that nothing changed on our southern border under Trump. The facts are there !
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023 Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden.
False. Drug overdose deaths "fell" in calendar years 2018 & 2019(from 2017) under Trump. No drop had ever occurred in the previous calendar years since 1999. And who ever would said Fentanyl would "stop" coming across. What a dumb comment.
So, stop stewing your garbage that nothing changed on our southern border under Trump. The facts are there !
Yup..I am saying exactly that, I am also saying that Trump through political and legal means has and will continue to hide corrupt activities, Bush II and most strongly Bush I hid corrupt things, Reagan's pals hid corrupt things, Clintons have hid corrupt things.
To you this is partisan, to me it is universal and I hope ANY politician or business doob gets nailed, all parties all income levels whatever gets nailed. I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush...
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@UNIMAN
Yup..I am saying exactly that, I am also saying that Trump through political and legal means has and will continue to hide corrupt activities, Bush II and most strongly Bush I hid corrupt things, Reagan's pals hid corrupt things, Clintons have hid corrupt things.
To you this is partisan, to me it is universal and I hope ANY politician or business doob gets nailed, all parties all income levels whatever gets nailed. I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush...
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023 Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden. False. Drug overdose deaths "fell" in calendar years 2018 & 2019(from 2017) under Trump. No drop had ever occurred in the previous calendar years since 1999. And who ever would said Fentanyl would "stop" coming across. What a dumb comment. So, stop stewing your garbage that nothing changed on our southern border under Trump. The facts are there !
False. I said nothing about drug overdoses. Not sure why you are bringing that up. The drug trade and cartel did not slow or stop during Trump years. You are simply full of $hit. Facts.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Check out the actual data. Take a look at that chart. It's what Trump hatred syndrome creates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/ Seven years of encounters in the last two. Billions of dollars to taxpayers. Yet we heard for two years, Crisis at the border, there's no crisis. El Paso wanted to declare an emergency right before the 2022 mid-term elections. OH HELL NO!!! Then on Jan 7th; Did El Paso clean up ahead of Biden visit? Authorities in El Paso have been tearing down migrant encampments under cover of darkness and dispatching hundreds of migrants across the border to Mexico ahead of President Biden's scheduled Sunday visit to the overwhelmed border town.Jan 7, 2023 Not really sure what your argument is. Everyone knows the Trump administration focused on apprehensions along the border. Whats your point? It certainly did nothing to reduce human trafficking, drug trafficking, crime along the border, or illegal immigration overall. Migrants just used legal ports for drugs and entry instead. Did Fentanyl stop entering the U.S. under Trump? No. Did the drug trade stop? No. Was the drug cartel eliminated? But hey Trump had those shiny apprehensions along the border, and separated families in cages, which achieved nothing really. But congrats he had way more apprehensions that Biden. False. Drug overdose deaths "fell" in calendar years 2018 & 2019(from 2017) under Trump. No drop had ever occurred in the previous calendar years since 1999. And who ever would said Fentanyl would "stop" coming across. What a dumb comment. So, stop stewing your garbage that nothing changed on our southern border under Trump. The facts are there !
False. I said nothing about drug overdoses. Not sure why you are bringing that up. The drug trade and cartel did not slow or stop during Trump years. You are simply full of $hit. Facts.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Rush51] Drug overdose deaths "fell" in calendar years 2018 & 2019(from 2017) under Trump. No drop had ever occurred in the previous calendar years since 1999. And who ever would said Fentanyl would "stop" coming across. What a dumb comment. So, stop stewing your garbage that nothing changed on our southern border under Trump. The facts are there ![/Quote]
As expected a simple Google search shows you are lying as expected.
Drug overdose deaths climbed to a record high last year, reversing a historic decline in 2018 that President Donald Trump touted as one of his administration’s key accomplishments, new federal data show.There were 70,980 reported deaths from overdoses in 2019, surpassing the peak of 70,699 deaths in 2017.
Not sure what this has to do with anything I was talking about anyway, but what you wrote is factually incorrect (not surprising). Again, Trump's apprehensions did nothing to stop drug and human trafficking into this country. No evidence or data that supports such a claim.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Rush51] Drug overdose deaths "fell" in calendar years 2018 & 2019(from 2017) under Trump. No drop had ever occurred in the previous calendar years since 1999. And who ever would said Fentanyl would "stop" coming across. What a dumb comment. So, stop stewing your garbage that nothing changed on our southern border under Trump. The facts are there ![/Quote]
As expected a simple Google search shows you are lying as expected.
Drug overdose deaths climbed to a record high last year, reversing a historic decline in 2018 that President Donald Trump touted as one of his administration’s key accomplishments, new federal data show.There were 70,980 reported deaths from overdoses in 2019, surpassing the peak of 70,699 deaths in 2017.
Not sure what this has to do with anything I was talking about anyway, but what you wrote is factually incorrect (not surprising). Again, Trump's apprehensions did nothing to stop drug and human trafficking into this country. No evidence or data that supports such a claim.
@UNIMAN Yup..I am saying exactly that, I am also saying that Trump through political and legal means has and will continue to hide corrupt activities, Bush II and most strongly Bush I hid corrupt things, Reagan's pals hid corrupt things, Clintons have hid corrupt things. To you this is partisan, to me it is universal and I hope ANY politician or business doob gets nailed, all parties all income levels whatever gets nailed. I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush...
Yeah, the Pope is corrupt, the Dalai Lama is corrupt, and all their pals too!!!! How silly.
Trump couldn't hide a hangnail. His life has been turned inside out and every journalist has tried their best to dig dirt.
Bill Clinton, Bush, Jimmy Carter, Kennedy, Nixon, whoever, are not my current concern, just nothing but deflection.
"I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush..."
No, youbash threads against Biden or supporting Trump because you are a "partisan lefty sympathizer." At least you said so in another thread.
You know not everybody thinks a like. Half the country likes Trump. Gotta remember that. Me, I like law, order, fairness, equal opportunity, and less government. Conservative by nature and it worked in my life. Trump is the best out there, sad but true. We cannot get really intelligent normal people to run for president and when they do they never make the cut. What successful person would want their life and every family members life turned inside out when they can make a better life in the private sector? Secret Service surrounding you daily. We have destroyed any chance to get top leaders by disecting each one. So we get a big mouth ego-trip real estate man vs a lifelong politician who plagerized and lied his way through life. It's the way it is.
Bottomline; Do they make decisions that you agree with?
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@UNIMAN Yup..I am saying exactly that, I am also saying that Trump through political and legal means has and will continue to hide corrupt activities, Bush II and most strongly Bush I hid corrupt things, Reagan's pals hid corrupt things, Clintons have hid corrupt things. To you this is partisan, to me it is universal and I hope ANY politician or business doob gets nailed, all parties all income levels whatever gets nailed. I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush...
Yeah, the Pope is corrupt, the Dalai Lama is corrupt, and all their pals too!!!! How silly.
Trump couldn't hide a hangnail. His life has been turned inside out and every journalist has tried their best to dig dirt.
Bill Clinton, Bush, Jimmy Carter, Kennedy, Nixon, whoever, are not my current concern, just nothing but deflection.
"I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush..."
No, youbash threads against Biden or supporting Trump because you are a "partisan lefty sympathizer." At least you said so in another thread.
You know not everybody thinks a like. Half the country likes Trump. Gotta remember that. Me, I like law, order, fairness, equal opportunity, and less government. Conservative by nature and it worked in my life. Trump is the best out there, sad but true. We cannot get really intelligent normal people to run for president and when they do they never make the cut. What successful person would want their life and every family members life turned inside out when they can make a better life in the private sector? Secret Service surrounding you daily. We have destroyed any chance to get top leaders by disecting each one. So we get a big mouth ego-trip real estate man vs a lifelong politician who plagerized and lied his way through life. It's the way it is.
Bottomline; Do they make decisions that you agree with?
It's laughable, ain't it? There seems to be a few libbies that are now at least questioning some moves by the Biden admin., but just a little.
One of our Senators, Patty Murray (), is amongst the worst in toeing the party line. She's embarrassing herself but either doesn't realize it or doesn't care. She has secured her pension so wtf.
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It's laughable, ain't it? There seems to be a few libbies that are now at least questioning some moves by the Biden admin., but just a little.
One of our Senators, Patty Murray (), is amongst the worst in toeing the party line. She's embarrassing herself but either doesn't realize it or doesn't care. She has secured her pension so wtf.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN Yup..I am saying exactly that, I am also saying that Trump through political and legal means has and will continue to hide corrupt activities, Bush II and most strongly Bush I hid corrupt things, Reagan's pals hid corrupt things, Clintons have hid corrupt things. To you this is partisan, to me it is universal and I hope ANY politician or business doob gets nailed, all parties all income levels whatever gets nailed. I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush... Yeah, the Pope is corrupt, the Dalai Lama is corrupt, and all their pals too!!!! How silly. Trump couldn't hide a hangnail. His life has been turned inside out and every journalist has tried their best to dig dirt. Bill Clinton, Bush, Jimmy Carter, Kennedy, Nixon, whoever, are not my current concern, just nothing but deflection. "I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush..." No, you bash threads against Biden or supporting Trump because you are a "partisan lefty sympathizer." At least you said so in another thread. You know not everybody thinks a like. Half the country likes Trump. Gotta remember that. Me, I like law, order, fairness, equal opportunity, and less government. Conservative by nature and it worked in my life. Trump is the best out there, sad but true. We cannot get really intelligent normal people to run for president and when they do they never make the cut. What successful person would want their life and every family members life turned inside out when they can make a better life in the private sector? Secret Service surrounding you daily. We have destroyed any chance to get top leaders by disecting each one. So we get a big mouth ego-trip real estate man vs a lifelong politician who plagerized and lied his way through life. It's the way it is. Bottomline; Do they make decisions that you agree with?
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN Yup..I am saying exactly that, I am also saying that Trump through political and legal means has and will continue to hide corrupt activities, Bush II and most strongly Bush I hid corrupt things, Reagan's pals hid corrupt things, Clintons have hid corrupt things. To you this is partisan, to me it is universal and I hope ANY politician or business doob gets nailed, all parties all income levels whatever gets nailed. I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush... Yeah, the Pope is corrupt, the Dalai Lama is corrupt, and all their pals too!!!! How silly. Trump couldn't hide a hangnail. His life has been turned inside out and every journalist has tried their best to dig dirt. Bill Clinton, Bush, Jimmy Carter, Kennedy, Nixon, whoever, are not my current concern, just nothing but deflection. "I am not making incessant threads about Biden while making excuses for Trump or Bush..." No, you bash threads against Biden or supporting Trump because you are a "partisan lefty sympathizer." At least you said so in another thread. You know not everybody thinks a like. Half the country likes Trump. Gotta remember that. Me, I like law, order, fairness, equal opportunity, and less government. Conservative by nature and it worked in my life. Trump is the best out there, sad but true. We cannot get really intelligent normal people to run for president and when they do they never make the cut. What successful person would want their life and every family members life turned inside out when they can make a better life in the private sector? Secret Service surrounding you daily. We have destroyed any chance to get top leaders by disecting each one. So we get a big mouth ego-trip real estate man vs a lifelong politician who plagerized and lied his way through life. It's the way it is. Bottomline; Do they make decisions that you agree with?
@Raiders22 It's laughable, ain't it? There seems to be a few libbies that are now at least questioning some moves by the Biden admin., but just a little. One of our Senators, Patty Murray (), is amongst the worst in toeing the party line. She's embarrassing herself but either doesn't realize it or doesn't care. She has secured her pension so wtf.
Did not read the article, just saw the headline. But I saw Manchin, one of your Senators, is considering going Independent.
Did not read why.
But you seem to be right that some are questioning Biden -- or at least the folks that are running Biden and his moves.
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@THEMUGG
Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
@Raiders22 It's laughable, ain't it? There seems to be a few libbies that are now at least questioning some moves by the Biden admin., but just a little. One of our Senators, Patty Murray (), is amongst the worst in toeing the party line. She's embarrassing herself but either doesn't realize it or doesn't care. She has secured her pension so wtf.
Did not read the article, just saw the headline. But I saw Manchin, one of your Senators, is considering going Independent.
Did not read why.
But you seem to be right that some are questioning Biden -- or at least the folks that are running Biden and his moves.
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