Bidenomics = 20.00 McDonald's Adult Happy Meal

@Raiders22

I personally do not see the differences between Iran and China or Russia or even Saudi Arabia. When I was younger the perception of Russia and China was much much more severe than it currently is and yet the US did not hold the position of either destroy them or have no interaction and in fact we had many presidents that worked out agreements and had relationships even with severe differences AND I would say right now...today...that Saudi Arabia is as bad or worse than Iran with regards to religious extremism and abuses of human rights. I see many similarities between SA and Iran, the difference is that Iran is more militarily aggressive than SA is. I am disgusted with how we bow to the Saudis and tolerate their abuses and the way they treat women, minorities etc.

My comment about Iran was based on the approaches several on your side have towards how we should not try to negotiate with Iran and why did we make decisions we did given the terrorist country they allegedly are. We have balanced relationships with many countries that we might not want to in order to accomplish a larger objective that has merit.

@wallstreetcappers

 Americans do not need to see the tax returns of a billionaire that became a civil servant. 

The need to see the tax returns of the civil servant that became a billionaire.

@witswits

 What does that have to do with anything? Are you seeking opportunities to say his name so badly that you have to make comments which have no relevance to any conversation?

@wallstreetcappers

 I personally do not see the differences between Iran and China or Russia or even Saudi Arabia.

Fair enough.  I would guess that would be the case for a lot of folks.  But if I were you I would question why everyone at the top levels all throughout the world, including the entire MENA region, do see the differences.  I get that the average person may not have the time or interest to pay attention that closely to world politics and actions -- but they should listen and be concerned when the folks that do point out the problems with Iran.

When I was younger the perception of Russia and China was much much more severe than it currently is

I would question the time frame, if it was pre-Nixon or pre-Reagan.  Then I would ask what changed and why it changed.  Then I would ask if the same issues are in play with Iran.

that Saudi Arabia is as bad or worse than Iran with regards to religious extremism and abuses of human rights.

There are many folks that will disagree with this assessment and see one as far more 'moderate' than the other -- and it is easy to guess which is which.  But, the case of grouping "religious extremism and abuses of human rights" in with sponsoring proxy wars and terrorism to try and destabilize the region is very superficial.  Because one does not necessarily follow the other -- and even if it does, there are clear levels to it and that is part of the reason Iran is always trying to undermine them.

I am disgusted with how we bow to the Saudis and tolerate their abuses and the way they treat women, minorities etc.

Okay.  The same could be said for a lot of places, including China, but, as I said above, that is bringing another issue into it altogether.  You may not like it -- but apparently a lot of countries are not worried about that as much as they are the threat to their own countries from terrorism and wars, etc.  How a country 'manages or mismanages' their own affairs -- including treating their citizens -- is entirely a separate issue to how they deal with the rest of the world.  These you also deal with differently as an outside country.

No one disputes it is a good thing to try to get countries to get rid of abuses.  But, at some point, you are almost to the point the USA and the West was a bit ago by assuming they could 'force' democracy on a people that do not want it.  So, you can only go so far in assuming folks want everything the West has.  Values from one country to another are very different.  Everyone's definition of 'abuse' can be very different.  You see this in ALL of the surveys they do about this in that area.  It is amazing what even the women see as okay and a Western woman would clearly call 'abuse'.  

But I get your point about it and trying to get rid of it some way.  It is just clearly a different topic and that simply does not equate the Saudis to Iran.

My comment about Iran was based on the approaches several on your side have towards how we should not try to negotiate with Iran and why did we make decisions we did given the terrorist country they allegedly are.

Sure.  But who on here or what pundit has suggested what you are saying as the way to deal with them?  Who suggested to 'hate them or invade' them?

Absolutely there are different ways you should attempt to deal with the world's largest sponsor of terrorism and a country that has abuses towards its citizens.

For sure, some in that area only 'respect and understand' overwhelming force and power.  Of course, the West does not want it to reach that point.  But there are others in that area that almost expect it.

Never forget, along with sponsoring proxy wars and terrorism, Iran has affected more than their own region.  They have had incidents in Europe and as far away as Argentina.

The Saudis have a tricky enough time dealing with them, along with everyone else in the MENA region.  So, if Europeans and the USA are going to do it, they will have to use different tactics than any random ME nation.  Look at how Iran reacted with the sanctions and how China responded to them -- because China NEEDS energy and that trumps nearly everything to them.

@witswits

That is the big concern.

The sad thing is they see what is going on with those folks when they get in office AND continue to vote for them.

As I pointed out long ago -- everyone used to make fun of Biden when he was running as VP and years before about his 'poor' he was compared to other politicians.

The fact is he was living on his salary and was where he should have been.  They were just comparing him to the other 'corrupt' politicians.  But eventually he got 'corrupted' or his kid did and now look at the difference in his wealth.

But until the folks realize they have to 'force' term limits on these guys at the ballot box -- nothing will change.

Like I said earlier.

We do not need to see the tax forms for a billionaire that became a civil servant

We DO need to see the tax forms of the civil servant that became a billionaire.

@Raiders22

Like I said earlier.

We do not need to see the tax forms for a billionaire that became a civil servant

We DO need to see the tax forms of the civil servant that became a billionaire.

@witswits

 Yep.  But even 'seeing' it is not needed when you 'know' it is. not right -- vote them out; both Rep and Dem.

Who says we don't already have a nuclear capable Iran..... 

I ran so far away from your comment because it scared me . But I eventually came back around to it cuz I went in a circle . 

@spockgato

Glad I got you to laugh . Even though what is being spoken about is dead serious . Just be careful with those emojis though bro because the next thing you know the beer mug “ cheers “ characters will make up 85 percent of your posting history . I’ve seen it happen before . They’re addicting . Like Peggy Bundy to Bon Bons or Al to Bigun’s . 

The Meme of the day is inside the link below. The Lefties inside Covers truly want everybody to believe that the economy of the United States is booming! It is not. The meme illustrates how the Pary of One inside Congress has sold us out!

Man struggling to feed his family just happy he can.... — The Donald (patriots.win)

The economy is booming....

It's been modified from Lets Go Brandon to Lets Go Booming, next up Lets Give Billions....

@spockgato

 Again spock with that video

I like how the supposed to be partial moderation of this particular thread is calling out a poster for the very same things that the other posters who are for Biden are doing and then calls it comical....I mean what is being expressed by the moderation in this particular thread is actually happening in countless other threads yet I do not see the disdain and aggravation being spewed to the others that are countering Trump...why are we not seeing the same posts in those Biden threads by the moderation group????

This is ans has been the complaint for some time now. Apparently it is ok for the Biden supporters but not ok for the Trump supporters as they get spoken to about it while the other group does not...

That is comedy....this is great

Carry on...

@ABooksNightmare

 Oh there is plenty of left slamming stuff all through this forum, the issue is you are part of that and so you are biased to it and minimize it. You are very aggressive in your sarcasm and digs and at the same time you are super sensitive for the exact same thing towards your side. Its here, both sides are doing it.

Why not be above it and instead of whining about unfairness just be the better person and not do what you are complaining about yourself?

@wallstreetcappers

 My side

You never learn do you

How many times do I have to tell you that I don't have a side

How does one get that across to such a stubborn man

Just comedy...sometimes I wonder if this could be compared to clown college

This is hilarious...go fish

@ABooksNightmare

 You speak with your actions and behavior not by saying you are not on one side. You provoke and attack one group at a high rate and the other on a very low rate.

I make my observations based on your actions, posts, stalking etc not that you say you are or not.

So you are defiant even though you are told to the contrary...got it....what's that called again?

Oh yea...

Incredulous

Congratulations on being so definitive

It is not feasibly possible to moderate fairly when there is such an overwhelming emotional attachment towards the disdain for Trump .

can’t be done .

The same would go if the moderator was a rabid Anti-Biden guy .

It seeps out in your words and actions whether you want it to or not .

You’re only human wall .

The problem is that no other moderator probably wants to come in here and deal with all the wild and insane craziness/nerdiness spewing from these political whackos with their severely slanted and partisan takes day after day and year after decade .

We don’t need to go back and forth and get involved with all the gamesmanship and dick measuring that the useless banter of attempted sarcasm brings to the table either .

Sometimes men talk and disagree . A tinkering to your method of moderating is clearly necessary and long overdue .

Let’s see if you can offer even a small faint glimmer of keeping the idea that you must always be right at bay and in check by respectfully disagreeing with my opinion in your next post instead of calling me names and making stuff up about me .

@spockgato

 You both have the same issue, you are partisan and biased towards one side and ignore the facts right in front of your faces. Look in this thread, this exact page and tell me what you see...then try and minimize it because you are partisan.

I dont care what side you are on just be respectful and do not break the rules.guidelines and try to add value, try to make conversation and debate. Look for ways to get along with others and not to try and attack or stalk or provoke.

Or you can beat that tired drum of unfair moderation, ignoring the truth and reality that there are two parties here and both are responsible for what happens and that is the only thing that matters.