Billionaires for Wealthcare is a grassroots network of health insurance CEOs, industry lobbyists, talk-show hosts, and others profiting off of our broken health care system.
We are not a political, religious or even particularly well-organized group. We're simple folk, thrilled profiteers pouring out of our corner offices to dance on the grave of "Change."
We'll do whatever it takes to ensure another decade where your pain is our gain. After all, when it comes to healthcare, if we ain't broke, why fix it?
Billionaires for Wealthcare is a grassroots network of health insurance CEOs, industry lobbyists, talk-show hosts, and others profiting off of our broken health care system.
We are not a political, religious or even particularly well-organized group. We're simple folk, thrilled profiteers pouring out of our corner offices to dance on the grave of "Change."
We'll do whatever it takes to ensure another decade where your pain is our gain. After all, when it comes to healthcare, if we ain't broke, why fix it?
i dont think most people are FOR the status quo, they are just against a complete government takeover of their HC plan
I think someone needs to do a better job of telling those 47 million people that the US is the only advanced nation in the world not covering all their citizens.
I think those 47 MILLION people would much rather have a gov't takeover of health care that would mean they get treatment, then the private healthcare industry that turns them away
Maybe i'm just being naiive
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
i dont think most people are FOR the status quo, they are just against a complete government takeover of their HC plan
I think someone needs to do a better job of telling those 47 million people that the US is the only advanced nation in the world not covering all their citizens.
I think those 47 MILLION people would much rather have a gov't takeover of health care that would mean they get treatment, then the private healthcare industry that turns them away
I think someone needs to do a better job of telling those 47 million people that the US is the only advanced nation in the world not covering all their citizens.
I think those 47 MILLION people would much rather have a gov't takeover of health care that would mean they get treatment, then the private healthcare industry that turns them away
Maybe i'm just being naiive
You certainly are naive. The number is nowhere near 47M, not even remotely. As far as covering all citizens, 15M of those aren't citizens. Providing 'coverage' is not the same as providing care. Canadian coverage may be GREAT, but Canadian care is still CRAP. Stay up there in your naive little inconsequential country wonderland.
obama is acorn, acorn is obama.
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
I think someone needs to do a better job of telling those 47 million people that the US is the only advanced nation in the world not covering all their citizens.
I think those 47 MILLION people would much rather have a gov't takeover of health care that would mean they get treatment, then the private healthcare industry that turns them away
Maybe i'm just being naiive
You certainly are naive. The number is nowhere near 47M, not even remotely. As far as covering all citizens, 15M of those aren't citizens. Providing 'coverage' is not the same as providing care. Canadian coverage may be GREAT, but Canadian care is still CRAP. Stay up there in your naive little inconsequential country wonderland.
Canadian coverage may be GREAT, but Canadian care is still CRAP.
then Las Vegas, Nevada must be part of Canada, Eh? wait list for a colonoscopy consultation here is mid December and that's just for the "meet and greet" with the gastro "hoser", not even for the actual proceedure. and that's with my primary care pill pushing pecker checker marking the order "expidite" because of symptoms.
and just what makes YOU an expert on Canadian healthcare, esplanade? because they said "it sucks" on Fox News?
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Canadian coverage may be GREAT, but Canadian care is still CRAP.
then Las Vegas, Nevada must be part of Canada, Eh? wait list for a colonoscopy consultation here is mid December and that's just for the "meet and greet" with the gastro "hoser", not even for the actual proceedure. and that's with my primary care pill pushing pecker checker marking the order "expidite" because of symptoms.
and just what makes YOU an expert on Canadian healthcare, esplanade? because they said "it sucks" on Fox News?
LRR - His statement is fundamentally correct, Coverage doesn't mean Care. In order to receive quality health care, you need quality providers. If the ObamaCare plan doesn't compensate providers for providing care, then the providers quit providing and you have the situation you are describing in Las vegas. Too many patients, not enough doctors.
As you stated, you apparently have coverage, but you can't see a doctor.
How will getting the govt involved fix this problem? Instead, perhaps we should look at why there aren't enough doctors and address that issue first.
If there are more doctors, wait times at least go down, but does quality go up? What about costs? If there are more doctors, won't costs go down because of competition between them?
Why would any smart person choose to dedicate 12 years post high school to becoming a doctor if all that provided him was a govt controlled system? Between medicare, medicaid, insurance companies, medical malpractice lawsuits, we have greatly reduced the incentive to want to be a doctor.
If someone is smart enough to be a doctor, they can also be a lawyer, an engineer, an accountant an MBA each of which can provide as good or even better lifestyle with alot less time and financial exposure.
How will this new healthcare plan help? It won't unless we can sweeten the pie enough for people to want to become doctors again.
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LRR - His statement is fundamentally correct, Coverage doesn't mean Care. In order to receive quality health care, you need quality providers. If the ObamaCare plan doesn't compensate providers for providing care, then the providers quit providing and you have the situation you are describing in Las vegas. Too many patients, not enough doctors.
As you stated, you apparently have coverage, but you can't see a doctor.
How will getting the govt involved fix this problem? Instead, perhaps we should look at why there aren't enough doctors and address that issue first.
If there are more doctors, wait times at least go down, but does quality go up? What about costs? If there are more doctors, won't costs go down because of competition between them?
Why would any smart person choose to dedicate 12 years post high school to becoming a doctor if all that provided him was a govt controlled system? Between medicare, medicaid, insurance companies, medical malpractice lawsuits, we have greatly reduced the incentive to want to be a doctor.
If someone is smart enough to be a doctor, they can also be a lawyer, an engineer, an accountant an MBA each of which can provide as good or even better lifestyle with alot less time and financial exposure.
How will this new healthcare plan help? It won't unless we can sweeten the pie enough for people to want to become doctors again.
I think someone needs to do a better job of telling those 47 million people that the US is the only advanced nation in the world not covering all their citizens.
I think those 47 MILLION people would much rather have a gov't takeover of health care that would mean they get treatment, then the private healthcare industry that turns them away
I think someone needs to do a better job of telling those 47 million people that the US is the only advanced nation in the world not covering all their citizens.
I think those 47 MILLION people would much rather have a gov't takeover of health care that would mean they get treatment, then the private healthcare industry that turns them away
What makes you an expert on ANYTHING? Because YOU say you are? Or are you getting your information straight from the source...MSNBC and the Huffington Post. Patently ridiculous.
How many Americans go to Canada for care?
I hope you get clean results (honestly), but if you came across the same way in the office that you do here, then they 'expedited' you to the back of the line.
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LRR
What makes you an expert on ANYTHING? Because YOU say you are? Or are you getting your information straight from the source...MSNBC and the Huffington Post. Patently ridiculous.
How many Americans go to Canada for care?
I hope you get clean results (honestly), but if you came across the same way in the office that you do here, then they 'expedited' you to the back of the line.
APK the US might have had some of the longest living people but those are an extremely small sample size. The correct thing to look at it average life expectancy rates.
Canada, parts of Europe (difficult to tell what counties exactly but there are a bunch), Australia and of course Japan all have average life expectancies of over 80 years old.
The US is below all of those places with an average life expectancy of 77.5-80.
APK the US might have had some of the longest living people but those are an extremely small sample size. The correct thing to look at it average life expectancy rates.
Canada, parts of Europe (difficult to tell what counties exactly but there are a bunch), Australia and of course Japan all have average life expectancies of over 80 years old.
The US is below all of those places with an average life expectancy of 77.5-80.
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