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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 10:20 AM ET #51

    "Many GOP senators are complicit in Trump's crime and are profiting from it."

    No profit here.  The republicans have imploded before with massive defeat following the Harding Coolidge Hoover administrations . 

    Democrats did not hold the white house for over 70 years.  From Lincoln term to Wilson's retaking the white house when the party fractured by Theodore Roosvelts progressive party. The republicans regrouped to produce the roaring 20's another bubble in the market formed. 

    When the collapse ofnthe market and the republicans refusal to adopt normal standards with Alchohol and the repeal of prohibition.The democrats held the presidency for 20 more years until Dwight D Eisenhower brought republicans back to 1600 Pennsylvania this was short lived as democrats returned with John Kennedy and he facing problems with cancellation of the Orion project was assainated .

    Nixon won the election after his brother Bobby died in California at the hands of another assassin and the disdain of FBI director Hoover . Nixon a very unpopular candidate won with a commercial.

    A young girl picking petals of a flower . 

    The Democrat retook the white house with Carter he was removed by the Iran hostage double digit unemployment double digits interest rates and inflation unchecked. Reagan administration seized the white house from the establishment in 1980 brokered convention that left Ford odd man out.

    Bush senior won against a weak opponent and stereotypes the second coming of Carter. But both after the election and loss of power.

    We speed up to Trump the traitors administration if the republicans can not distance themselves from bennidict don. They will lose furthur and furthur battles in swing states.

    They won't profit cause money can't legitimately buy elections they need supporters.  And without veterans or the supremist elements the support for democrats will grow to super majorities. 

    When the house democrats shed Pelosi she stares she won't run for house speaker in 2022 then the republicans lose their dentures the false teeth they think they have. Pelosi not supporting armor for veterans after supporting the Iraq war industry has never felt comfortable to return to the Democratic ranks. 

    But while they can figure point to each others caucus for a list of immovable demons the country stays fractured. 

    The Democratic party holds all the keys of power however they have to now perform they must move legislation and 7 republicans can't end debate Senate.

    They will be pockets of the country who will always play the victim card and elect Margery greens of soicity time Georgia didn't just vote to succeed from the union in 1860 they voted to succeed from Georgia.  

    The next two election cycles will indeed be interesting to see how much the republicans lose embracing the traitor and his family in key races.

    The writings on the wall. 

     

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    "Many GOP senators are complicit in Trump's crime and are profiting from it."

    No profit here.  The republicans have imploded before with massive defeat following the Harding Coolidge Hoover administrations . 

    Democrats did not hold the white house for over 70 years.  From Lincoln term to Wilson's retaking the white house when the party fractured by Theodore Roosvelts progressive party. The republicans regrouped to produce the roaring 20's another bubble in the market formed. 

    When the collapse ofnthe market and the republicans refusal to adopt normal standards with Alchohol and the repeal of prohibition.The democrats held the presidency for 20 more years until Dwight D Eisenhower brought republicans back to 1600 Pennsylvania this was short lived as democrats returned with John Kennedy and he facing problems with cancellation of the Orion project was assainated .

    Nixon won the election after his brother Bobby died in California at the hands of another assassin and the disdain of FBI director Hoover . Nixon a very unpopular candidate won with a commercial.

    A young girl picking petals of a flower . 

    The Democrat retook the white house with Carter he was removed by the Iran hostage double digit unemployment double digits interest rates and inflation unchecked. Reagan administration seized the white house from the establishment in 1980 brokered convention that left Ford odd man out.

    Bush senior won against a weak opponent and stereotypes the second coming of Carter. But both after the election and loss of power.

    We speed up to Trump the traitors administration if the republicans can not distance themselves from bennidict don. They will lose furthur and furthur battles in swing states.

    They won't profit cause money can't legitimately buy elections they need supporters.  And without veterans or the supremist elements the support for democrats will grow to super majorities. 

    When the house democrats shed Pelosi she stares she won't run for house speaker in 2022 then the republicans lose their dentures the false teeth they think they have. Pelosi not supporting armor for veterans after supporting the Iraq war industry has never felt comfortable to return to the Democratic ranks. 

    But while they can figure point to each others caucus for a list of immovable demons the country stays fractured. 

    The Democratic party holds all the keys of power however they have to now perform they must move legislation and 7 republicans can't end debate Senate.

    They will be pockets of the country who will always play the victim card and elect Margery greens of soicity time Georgia didn't just vote to succeed from the union in 1860 they voted to succeed from Georgia.  

    The next two election cycles will indeed be interesting to see how much the republicans lose embracing the traitor and his family in key races.

    The writings on the wall. 

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 12:27 PM ET #52

    New York times retracts its story of officer Sicknick's death.... governor Newsome now wants signature verification... 

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    New York times retracts its story of officer Sicknick's death.... governor Newsome now wants signature verification... 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 12:31 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    New York times retracts its story of officer Sicknick's death.... governor Newsome now wants signature verification...

    The hypocrisy of the Dems never ceases to amaze!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    New York times retracts its story of officer Sicknick's death.... governor Newsome now wants signature verification...

    The hypocrisy of the Dems never ceases to amaze!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 12:42 PM ET #54

    Here in ny, cuomo keeps getting buried.   

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    Here in ny, cuomo keeps getting buried.   

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 12:54 PM ET #55

    Nothing has been proven either way. The right wing NY Post stands by its original story linked below. 

    Its interesting that the right wing in this thread is trying to conflate the issue. Many scenarios are possible some being that he was struck with a fire extinguisher causing death, that he was subdued with bear spray and then struck or that he suffered a reaction to the bear spray. All point to the same issue, however, that his death was caused by the right wing terrorist attacks. To suggest otherwise is like saying that the collapsing buildings caused the 911 deaths, not the attacks (because the 911 terrorists had no idea the buildings would collapse). 

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-shows-capitol-rioter-hit-officer-with-fire-extinguisher/

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    Nothing has been proven either way. The right wing NY Post stands by its original story linked below. 

    Its interesting that the right wing in this thread is trying to conflate the issue. Many scenarios are possible some being that he was struck with a fire extinguisher causing death, that he was subdued with bear spray and then struck or that he suffered a reaction to the bear spray. All point to the same issue, however, that his death was caused by the right wing terrorist attacks. To suggest otherwise is like saying that the collapsing buildings caused the 911 deaths, not the attacks (because the 911 terrorists had no idea the buildings would collapse). 

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-shows-capitol-rioter-hit-officer-with-fire-extinguisher/

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 1:18 PM ET #56

    Death is horrible no matter how you slice it.  There is a reason why the times retracted its story... because it was not true...

    Unlike rest of the country, here in ny,  parties on same page with cuomo... now what will be done is different  story.

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    Death is horrible no matter how you slice it.  There is a reason why the times retracted its story... because it was not true...

    Unlike rest of the country, here in ny,  parties on same page with cuomo... now what will be done is different  story.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 7:33 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Nothing has been proven either way. The right wing NY Post stands by its original story linked below.  Its interesting that the right wing in this thread is trying to conflate the issue. Many scenarios are possible some being that he was struck with a fire extinguisher causing death, that he was subdued with bear spray and then struck or that he suffered a reaction to the bear spray. All point to the same issue, however, that his death was caused by the right wing terrorist attacks. To suggest otherwise is like saying that the collapsing buildings caused the 911 deaths, not the attacks (because the 911 terrorists had no idea the buildings would collapse).  https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-shows-capitol-rioter-hit-officer-with-fire-extinguisher/
    The NYT retracted their story on this. It's sickening how the libs tried to use this man's death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Nothing has been proven either way. The right wing NY Post stands by its original story linked below.  Its interesting that the right wing in this thread is trying to conflate the issue. Many scenarios are possible some being that he was struck with a fire extinguisher causing death, that he was subdued with bear spray and then struck or that he suffered a reaction to the bear spray. All point to the same issue, however, that his death was caused by the right wing terrorist attacks. To suggest otherwise is like saying that the collapsing buildings caused the 911 deaths, not the attacks (because the 911 terrorists had no idea the buildings would collapse).  https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-shows-capitol-rioter-hit-officer-with-fire-extinguisher/
    The NYT retracted their story on this. It's sickening how the libs tried to use this man's death.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 7:37 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: The NYT retracted their story on this. It's sickening how the libs tried to use this man's death.

     

    You mean he did not die as a result of the right-wing terrorists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: The NYT retracted their story on this. It's sickening how the libs tried to use this man's death.

     

    You mean he did not die as a result of the right-wing terrorists?

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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 7:54 PM ET #59

    The facts SHOW there was no physical evidence that Sick nick was hit OVER the head by a fire extinguisher..a LIE repeated over and over by the media trying to blame everything on Trump..but They know He Didn't pull the trigger on the Single Deadly shot by a still unidentified killer inside that chamber...FACT.. let's see you dispute that..an_popcorn

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    The facts SHOW there was no physical evidence that Sick nick was hit OVER the head by a fire extinguisher..a LIE repeated over and over by the media trying to blame everything on Trump..but They know He Didn't pull the trigger on the Single Deadly shot by a still unidentified killer inside that chamber...FACT.. let's see you dispute that..an_popcorn

     
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     You mentioned Trump. I mentioned the right wing terrorists. 

    I'll ask again...was his death the result of the right wing terrorists? an_popcorn

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     You mentioned Trump. I mentioned the right wing terrorists. 

    I'll ask again...was his death the result of the right wing terrorists? an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 8:36 PM ET #61

    Blm, antifa terrorized, killed, destroyed is supported and funded by the left.  They are doing way more damage.

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    Blm, antifa terrorized, killed, destroyed is supported and funded by the left.  They are doing way more damage.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Blm, antifa terrorized, killed, destroyed is supported and funded by the left.  They are doing way more damage.

    So, contrary to assertions from right wing outlets like Fox, Newsmax, and the NY Post, and right wingers like McCarthy and McConnell, you are saying BLM and antifa killed Officer Sicknick?

     

    Perhaps you have some source for this information? an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Blm, antifa terrorized, killed, destroyed is supported and funded by the left.  They are doing way more damage.

    So, contrary to assertions from right wing outlets like Fox, Newsmax, and the NY Post, and right wingers like McCarthy and McConnell, you are saying BLM and antifa killed Officer Sicknick?

     

    Perhaps you have some source for this information? an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:15 PM ET #63

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     Don't be so disrespectful with your "Sick Nick" epithet.

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     Don't be so disrespectful with your "Sick Nick" epithet.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:19 PM ET #64

    Not even close... an officer died which is awful. 

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    Not even close... an officer died which is awful. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:22 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    The facts SHOW there was no physical evidence that Sick nick was hit OVER the head by a fire extinguisher..a LIE repeated over and over by the media trying to blame everything on Trump..but They know He Didn't pull the trigger on the Single Deadly shot by a still unidentified killer inside that chamber...FACT.. let's see you dispute that..

    Dead is dead 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    The facts SHOW there was no physical evidence that Sick nick was hit OVER the head by a fire extinguisher..a LIE repeated over and over by the media trying to blame everything on Trump..but They know He Didn't pull the trigger on the Single Deadly shot by a still unidentified killer inside that chamber...FACT.. let's see you dispute that..

    Dead is dead 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:24 PM ET #66

    People died over the summer.   People lost their livelihood and all is good?   

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    People died over the summer.   People lost their livelihood and all is good?   

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:24 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Not even close... an officer died which is awful.

     

    And who is responsible for his death? paint_help

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Not even close... an officer died which is awful.

     

    And who is responsible for his death? paint_help

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:25 PM ET #68

    All in the family would not be on the air nowadays. 

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    All in the family would not be on the air nowadays. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:30 PM ET #69

    Well he was not bludgeoned to death.   So will say it was unfortunate his time was up .

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    Well he was not bludgeoned to death.   So will say it was unfortunate his time was up .

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:32 PM ET #70

    5 Americans dead over 140 wounded and that just capital police casualties including subsequent suicides.

    Protestors at least 5 dead

    wounded unknown. 

    Because defense department delayed the response of national guard. And the calls for assistance for 3 hours until the drive was deemed a failure. 

    Although trumo does have a special kind of lawyer.

    Like the ambulance chaser.

    • $1.25 Million settlement for a trespasser killed by factory equipment
    • $1 Million for a man injured by a bouncer in a strip club
    • Source https://www.mtvlaw.com/verdicts-settlements/
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    5 Americans dead over 140 wounded and that just capital police casualties including subsequent suicides.

    Protestors at least 5 dead

    wounded unknown. 

    Because defense department delayed the response of national guard. And the calls for assistance for 3 hours until the drive was deemed a failure. 

    Although trumo does have a special kind of lawyer.

    Like the ambulance chaser.

    • $1.25 Million settlement for a trespasser killed by factory equipment
    • $1 Million for a man injured by a bouncer in a strip club
    • Source https://www.mtvlaw.com/verdicts-settlements/
     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:42 PM ET #71

    Source see above link. Provided. 

    driver’s license and credit card, which were surrendered upon his arrival pursuant to club policy. While he was waiting, another of the club’s security personnel approached Tyler. This individual was a former marine and golden gloves boxing champion. Without provocation or warning, this “bouncer” struck Tyler twice in the face with a closed fist. The blows caused Tyler to fall backwards and hit the back of his head against the floor, knocking him unconscious. The bouncer and his co-workers then dragged Tyler, bleeding and unconscious, through the club’s lobby, out the door, and onto the club’s parking lot.

    An ambulance was eventually called and Tyler was rushed to the emergency room where CT brain and head scans showed that Tyler suffered a concussion with traumatic brain injury. Eight staples were needed to close the wound on his head and Tyler was admitted to the intensive care unit to treat his injuries, which included a fractured eye socket.

    While the cuts and bruises Tyler suffered in this attack healed as expected, there were a number of other injuries that were far more difficult to diagnose and treat. Although Tyler complained immediately of having difficulty breathing through his nose and not being able to appreciate smells as he had before the assault, it took more than a year to diagnose and surgically repair a nasal fracture and deviated septum. Similarly, Tyler’s complaints of memory loss, severe headaches, dizziness, motor skill and speech deficits were difficult and painstaking to treat. Years later, it is clear that some of these issues will never resolve fully.

    The value of having an experienced and qualified attorney working on a case like Tyler’s cannot be understated. He initially hired an attorney who did not fully appreciate the complexity of Tyler’s case or how to present his damages. Although a lawsuit was filed on Tyler’s behalf, his original attorney had neither requested nor submitted the necessary reports to properly present Tyler’s case to a jury. Worse, he had missed critical deadlines to submit them and Tyler’s case was in jeopardy.

    Fortunately, attorney Michael van der Veen was able to step in as counsel for Tyler. He first obtained the critical medical and economic reports needed to present the full extent of Tyler’s injuries. Next, van der Veen petitioned the court and successfully persuaded the judge to accept some of the late submissions of these reports. Tyler’s case was prepared for trial and evidence was gathered.

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    Source see above link. Provided. 

    driver’s license and credit card, which were surrendered upon his arrival pursuant to club policy. While he was waiting, another of the club’s security personnel approached Tyler. This individual was a former marine and golden gloves boxing champion. Without provocation or warning, this “bouncer” struck Tyler twice in the face with a closed fist. The blows caused Tyler to fall backwards and hit the back of his head against the floor, knocking him unconscious. The bouncer and his co-workers then dragged Tyler, bleeding and unconscious, through the club’s lobby, out the door, and onto the club’s parking lot.

    An ambulance was eventually called and Tyler was rushed to the emergency room where CT brain and head scans showed that Tyler suffered a concussion with traumatic brain injury. Eight staples were needed to close the wound on his head and Tyler was admitted to the intensive care unit to treat his injuries, which included a fractured eye socket.

    While the cuts and bruises Tyler suffered in this attack healed as expected, there were a number of other injuries that were far more difficult to diagnose and treat. Although Tyler complained immediately of having difficulty breathing through his nose and not being able to appreciate smells as he had before the assault, it took more than a year to diagnose and surgically repair a nasal fracture and deviated septum. Similarly, Tyler’s complaints of memory loss, severe headaches, dizziness, motor skill and speech deficits were difficult and painstaking to treat. Years later, it is clear that some of these issues will never resolve fully.

    The value of having an experienced and qualified attorney working on a case like Tyler’s cannot be understated. He initially hired an attorney who did not fully appreciate the complexity of Tyler’s case or how to present his damages. Although a lawsuit was filed on Tyler’s behalf, his original attorney had neither requested nor submitted the necessary reports to properly present Tyler’s case to a jury. Worse, he had missed critical deadlines to submit them and Tyler’s case was in jeopardy.

    Fortunately, attorney Michael van der Veen was able to step in as counsel for Tyler. He first obtained the critical medical and economic reports needed to present the full extent of Tyler’s injuries. Next, van der Veen petitioned the court and successfully persuaded the judge to accept some of the late submissions of these reports. Tyler’s case was prepared for trial and evidence was gathered.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:46 PM ET #72

    9 of these great mob patriots had been charged with sexual assault or had retraining orders for domestic violence per Yahoo news.

    The POS who tried to gouge out an officer's eye is still on the loose. The doctors were unable to save the officer's eye.

    Save us all the party of "law and order" bullshit peddled here.

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    9 of these great mob patriots had been charged with sexual assault or had retraining orders for domestic violence per Yahoo news.

    The POS who tried to gouge out an officer's eye is still on the loose. The doctors were unable to save the officer's eye.

    Save us all the party of "law and order" bullshit peddled here.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:46 PM ET #73

    So I man who was rude in strip club van der keen argued for late evidence

    and for the good of his treasonous client he doesn't want any evidence admitted... 

    If I was a lawyer I used that appeal as a merit for the introduction of new evidence and quate the man's words back to him.

    He is one of those special kind of lawyers.

     

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    So I man who was rude in strip club van der keen argued for late evidence

    and for the good of his treasonous client he doesn't want any evidence admitted... 

    If I was a lawyer I used that appeal as a merit for the introduction of new evidence and quate the man's words back to him.

    He is one of those special kind of lawyers.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2021 - 9:50 PM ET #74

    So former Trump supporters police for betraying their brother officers the law enforcement union 

    Veterans as he looks as good as Hillary and Bengazi white nationalists he just theatre them under the bus.

    And most common Americans once they become aware of his treasonous conduct.

    I am sure Mr Graham will be there if they have to be rallies in Irwin cou th detention center for attempting voter fraud.

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    So former Trump supporters police for betraying their brother officers the law enforcement union 

    Veterans as he looks as good as Hillary and Bengazi white nationalists he just theatre them under the bus.

    And most common Americans once they become aware of his treasonous conduct.

    I am sure Mr Graham will be there if they have to be rallies in Irwin cou th detention center for attempting voter fraud.

     
     
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