Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

You have no idea regarding the performance of these 18 people & you have no proof of any wrongdoing.

Keep swallowing.

What subject is that ?

I'll say no more than $500 billion. Musk started fast and Dems are regrouping from all the haymakers. Expect lawsuit after lawsuit in Dem friendly courts.

Former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, an ally of the president, defended the decision on X, saying “existing IGs are virtually worthless.”

“They may bring a few minor things to light but accomplish next to nothing,” she wrote. “The whole system needs to be revamped! They are toothless and protect the institution instead of the citizens.”

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I'll say no more than $500 billion. Musk started fast and Dems are regrouping from all the haymakers. Expect lawsuit after lawsuit in Dem friendly courts.

Thanks for the estimate ..Uniman

Notice the members of the work party enter this thread ,but won't give an estimate of how much DOGE will cut ?

[Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: If the goal of ‘DOGE’ were truly to expose corruption and save taxpayer money it wouldn’t have been preceded by the unlawful firing of 18 Inspectors General whose job it is to expose corruption and save taxpayer money. WOW, talk about gullible. Keep swallowing the bullshit mushrooms! Well.... they haven't been doing a very good job... thus, their firing. You have no idea regarding the performance of these 18 people & you have no proof of any wrongdoing. Keep swallowing.[/Quote]

I sure do.  Think about it...  .... if just one of these 18 people had been doing their job , then the fraud & waste would've been discovered .  They are all either extremely incompetent,  or complicit in this activity that RAIDERS already suggested.. 

Since this thread was started......

DOGE has cut 8 billion $...

Our new President doesn;t just fire government employees   he hires also..

President Donald Trump announced that he told Elon Musk to hire an additional 45 new DOGE agents to manage and audit the FBI, CIA, and Pentagon.......They will find many Billions in waste in those agencies....

its just the beginning ,it will destroy the corrupt Democratic Party 

What are they hiding?  This goes for all political parties... you work for the taxpayers..they should be allowed to see what their hard earn money is really going.

The richest man in the world is working for free in order to stop your government from robbing you blind. Instead of complaining, why don’t you sit down, shut up and say thank you.

Musk claimed ...Cutting an average of $4 billion a day in spending would be needed to reduce the federal deficit by $1 trillion in fiscal 2026,

Bullshit!

First of all, the law requires a 30-day notification window between the White House informing Congress of its intent to fire an inspector general and that inspector general being removed from on-duty status. The White House must also provide substantive reasons for why the inspector general is being removed. NONE OF THIS WAS DONE!

I could go through each IG & note what they have done, money saved & prosecutions brought by each one. But I'll just mention a couple..

Robert Storch Defense IG was the person who uncovered the unannounced hospitalization of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin & his failure to notify Congress & the WH. He identified the inability to deliver food/supplies as well as the failed "floating pier" used to deliver these items to the Gaza Strip. He identified the Navy's failure to contain leaks at the Red Hill fuel supply in Hawaii & the ineffectiveness of weaponry sent to Ukraine with the proper training of the Ukraine military.He accomplished in just the 2 years on the job.

Eric Soskin (a Trump holdover ) identified issues gone unaddressed by Boeing, the need to modernize our Air Traffic Control systems, ensured airline compliance with consumer protection laws as well as oversight of airline safety & issued fines for failure to properly maintain aircraft safety. 

Larry Turner identified the major safety issues ignored by the mining industry including major fines until those issues were fixed. He went after the surge of child labor in slaughterhouses across the country. Through his team's audit work, he notified Congress of the hugeeee theft of pandemic funding caused by the lousy oversight that was in put in place by the Donald! 

When asked why he fired them all, the Donald said "I don't know them, but some people thought that some were unfair or some were not doing their job." "It's a very standard thing to do." So now he will surround himself with losers such as himself. Just take a look at the people he has chosen for leadership roles in our country.

He chose Sean Parnell, who had to drop of his running for the Senate in PA when his children were taken away because he physically & verbally abused his wife in front of their children. He dropped his wife on the interstate highway when she was 6 months pregnant screaming at her to get an abortion. He was named a Spokesman for the Pentagon.

Mehmet OZ also lost that Senate seat & named him to run Medicaid & Medicare.

Kelly Loeffler has lost every election she has entered was named Head of the Small Business Administration.

David Perdue who also lost his run for Congress in Georgia was named Ambassador to China.

Doug Collins who also lost his race for Congress was named to run the Veterans Administration. His military experience was that as a Chaplin.

Herschel Walker was named as Ambassador to the Bahamas.

Kari Lake lost here run for Governor of Arizona & the Senate was named he Voice of America which a group he's considering abandoning.

Lori Chavez Dermer lost her seat in Oregon & has been named her to the Secretary of Labor.

Brandon Williams list his House seat in New York was named to run the National Nuclear Security Administration.

Lee Zeldin lost his race for New York Governor was named to run the EPA.

Karoline Levitt lost her race for the House in New Hampshire was named Press Secretary.

Linda McMahon lost 2 separate Senate races in Connecticut was named Secretary of Education. 

Tulsi Gabbard was named Director of Intelligence which is an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

Robert F Kennedy (AKA Roadkill Bobby) was named to run Health & Human services after he dropped out of the presidential campaign & secured a cabinet job by throwing his support to the Donald.

Harmeet Dhillon lost her run to chair the GOP was named to lead the Justice Department Civil Rights division.

Sam Brown lost his run for the Senate from Nevada was named to the Veterans Administration probably to watch over the Chaplin.

Dave Weldon lost his run for Florida State Legislature was named to run the CDC.

Dan Bishop lost the AG race in North Carolina was named as 2nd in command at the OMB.

Bo Hines also lost in North Carolina & was named to the Donald's new Crypto Board .

Joe Kent lost 2 straight Congress runs in Washington was named to the National Counterterrorism Center.     

My apologies for the Raiders22 sized rant. 

The American public has told these losers, they were not wanted but the Donald has dismissed the decisions of the people he supposedly supports.

These are the puppets YOU allowed to run this country!

And I didn't even mention Hesketh, Bondi, Ratcliffe, Vought, Lutnik or Noem!

@Midnight1

This might make for a interesting  thread ..why don't you start one about it ? 

Instead of trying to kill this thread by hijacking it with off topic comments...

@SarasotaSlim

 OK, that's fair. Let's talk about DOGE.

DOGE supposedly has identified & cut over 1 billion of federal spending to meet their goal of saving 2 trillion. First of all DOGE has no power to cut anything, They can't cut a PB&J sandwich. So their claims of cuts is bullshit. They may have recommendations but that's about it. So where are they finding these savings?

Well, more than 50% of those reported savings come from related savings on the diversity, equity & inclusion programs. The 50% is DOGE's number not mine. Now here's the rub...

DOGE & MAGA's are so confused on the purpose of DEI & their understanding is ass backwards. This is the real deal right here....

DEI initiatives were not put in place to ensure lower qualified minorities could get hired instead of more highly qualified white people. It was put in place to ensure lower qualified white people were not hired instead of more qualified minorities.

See what I mean.? Like almost everything, they have it ass backwards. Their thinking is "Who cars if the horse is dead, keep loading the bullshit on the wagon."  

Their claims of massive fraud have gone identified. And if they even mention cutting Medicare of Social Security, DOGE will be shooting themselves in the foot & should just throw in the towel on those concepts of a cost reduction plan.

In fact on Saturday, a judge temporarily restricted political employees and "special government employees" of which Muskrat is one & so are his rugrats of IT wannabees from accessing sensitive data & payment systems. IMO the judge is too late because that boat has already left the dock. All along people were saying "they only have read access to files, they can only read stuff" which of course is more bullshit because they had change, update & deletion access authority. 

Glad to help & get this thread back on the topic. Now tell us more about the fraud & cost savings.

And please don't even mentioned the governments plans to stop purchasing paper straws.

Carry on...

@Midnight1.. Quote: "Glad to help & get this thread back on the topic. Now tell us more about the fraud & cost savings."

You did nothing to get the thread back on topic....Since the topic is NOT about DOGE having the power to cut anything,nor the purpose of DEI, or a judges temporarily restrictions....as much as you want to make it so....All that is a diversion and a deflection from the real topic..

Topic: What is your estimate on how much DOGE.... The Dept. of Government Efficiency ( set to disband by July 4, 2026) will cut federal spending by the dead line ?

So,What is your estimate ?

Give a estimate and stop trying to kill the thread with all your woke factoids....

DOGE will soon be training its sights on the Social Security Administration. At least one DOGE staffer is preparing to “work with the agency,” the outlet reported. While there’s little information available as to what Musk’s group plans to do to America’s popular public benefits program, DOGE’s whole modus operandi has been to take a butcher’s knife to the agencies it “works” with, so it’s difficult to imagine that the changes will be helpful to the average American.

GO MUSK! END SOCIAL SECURITY TODAY! - NO MORE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS - SAVE A TRILLION! 

There are many myths about DEI.  Including that DEI is a political agenda favoring unqualified candidates, lowering standards, encouraging hate toward white people and a waste of money.  However DEI can help in achieving more inclusive and equitable workplaces.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said “diversity is our strength” is the “single dumbest phrase in military history”

@Midnight1

 #42

I listened to Elon articulate his points yesterday.

Then I attempted to listen to the other side's counter points

One was well thought our and concisely articulated and the others sang, screamed, and chanted eff Trump.

There seems to be much discussion about appropriation and separation of powers etc.  It would seem congress' entitlement to this argument was usurped from the very people it represents by way of 1500 pages in the 12th hour x every bill.  

Add the one party's inability to critical think, or articulate, with the non-stop games (both parties) and you get what you see now with favorability from most......outside this forum.

After more thought to Slims question, I come in over 1 trillion found with half that getting cut.

Dei had lowered the standards of the NYPD and nyfd..that's the fact.  It's a Trojan horse.

@unplucked_gem

 To be somewhat fair, this is not the first time this has been addressed, or attempted to be addressed.

This overgrowth of government bureaucracy and spending has been a concern since at least the 1870s.

Reagan attempted to have this looked at with the Grace Commission.

Clinton had the REGO set up to address it.

The issue now is there is more than simply debt and overspending and government growth going on.  

Now you have the issue conflated with the problems of waste and inefficiency along with the spending and overgrowth and debt.

The difference now is that the inefficiency and waste is being emphasized now along with the exposure of the 'pet projects'.

The Media and the Left have in the past tried to handle some of this with more legislation.  The Right are simply doing away with a lot of these things and for sure trying to shrink the government.  The Left does not like the exposure and ending of some of these things.

It is a copout to say they were not elected.  Out of the 2M+ folks that are in the executive portion of the government, only 2 were voted for.

There was not this much outrage when Reagan or Clinton were having non-elected folks look into these sorts of things.

So, I am not sure how 'articulate or critical-thinking' you can be about an issue, when it is only a political narrative with one side.

Like we always say:  You cannot reason someone away from something when reason is not what got them there.

If Trump were to completely get rid of waste and inefficiency and lower the debt -- the Left would still not want to give him credit.

#ontheroadto$1T

@Raiders22

 All fair points.

"This overgrowth of government bureaucracy and spending has been a concern since at least the 1870s."

The accelerated pace over the last few years should scare both sides, but it doesn't which is strange.