Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
jinvgeas, for some reason you're reaching to play stupid word games with me, but my point hasn't changed throughout this thread.
wallstreet, who understands the issue well, summed up my points. i don't know how else to explain it. unlike some people on this forum, i'm always open to be proven wrong. because i can't speak intelligently about each of the thousands of pesticides, i'm not going to say i know the effects of all of them. sufice it to say, i don't know of any pesticides that make food healthier, and i know plenty about foods and chemicals. if you think we are wrong and there are pesticides that make food healthier, again i invite you to present the information and we can all evaluate it.
the other point implied by my question about apples is this. not only are pesticides and chemicals harmful for humans to ingest, they have a negative effect on the soil and, as a result, the fruit adn vegetables that grow from the soil.
the usda tests the nutritional value of different foods, along with others who have done independent studies. partly because these pesticides and chemicals basically kill everything in the soil
these fruits and vegetables have lost a significant amount of nutritional value in terms of vitamins and minerals over the last several decades since pesticides and chemicals have been put to greater use. for instance, since 1975, the vitamin a content of apples is down 41%, of broccoli, 50% and so on.
this is another example of the negative effects of pesticides, although mutation and overtaxing the soil are also responsible for this.
finally, i don't know what the hell you are trying to say in response to the mcdonalds french fries video, but in the simplest terms, if you watch that video and can't see there's something seriously unnatural about what mcdonalds does to their potatoes, then i highly recommend you pick up a book that teaches you about food. here's one.
im done addressing the pesticides issue with you bc you flat out arent listening, see my reply to wallstreet in post 58
as to mcdonalds, there are so many things wrong with the comparison.
1) comparing PROCESSED food to unprocessed food is not the same as comparing organic to non
2) you have to be an idiot to think mcdonalds does nothing to the potatoes, after they are harvested.
lets just start with the basics, mcds food is covered in salt, and surely (eh, maybe you dont) you know that salt is a preservative.
now lets dig a little deeper, from mcds website
ingredients of french fries
Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid
pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to
preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
seems to me like theres just a tad more involved than grabbing a potato from the ground and frying it.
anything else you want to be shown the light on????
and just in case its not obvious, in no way am i saying processed food is good for you, im merely pointing out the lunacy of your "comparison"
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If you want to be chemical free you best find you a remote island to move to. Because Chemicals are used in EVERYTHING! 95% of what you own and use daily was aided by a chemical in some form or fashion.
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