CNN - In his majority opinion, Chief Justice John Roberts said that
presidents do need immunity for their official acts.
“We conclude that under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of presidential power requires that a former president have some immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office,” Roberts wrote.
“At least with respect to the president’s exercise of his core constitutional powers, this immunity must be absolute.”
But, the chief added, not everything is official
“The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official. The President is not above the law,” Roberts wrote.
“But Congress may not criminalize the President’s conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution.”
This begs the question about what constitutes an official act of the presidency
Is inciting a mob attack on the Capitol based on LIES an "official" presidential act?
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
HEADLINES: Monday, July 01 . . .
SCOTUS rules on limited immunity
CNN - In his majority opinion, Chief Justice John Roberts said that
presidents do need immunity for their official acts.
“We conclude that under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of presidential power requires that a former president have some immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office,” Roberts wrote.
“At least with respect to the president’s exercise of his core constitutional powers, this immunity must be absolute.”
But, the chief added, not everything is official
“The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official. The President is not above the law,” Roberts wrote.
“But Congress may not criminalize the President’s conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution.”
This begs the question about what constitutes an official act of the presidency
Is inciting a mob attack on the Capitol based on LIES an "official" presidential act?
I see this 6-3 in the party line SCOTUS decision gives Donald Trump a big win, but may have been motivating Democrats base in the November campaign. Perhaps, Independent voters are likely to welcome a more balanced rather than 6-3 GOP super majority high court in the coming future. Americans are not that heavily tilted to 6-3 GOP super majority, GOP has won only once in popular votes since 1992.
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@fubah2
I see this 6-3 in the party line SCOTUS decision gives Donald Trump a big win, but may have been motivating Democrats base in the November campaign. Perhaps, Independent voters are likely to welcome a more balanced rather than 6-3 GOP super majority high court in the coming future. Americans are not that heavily tilted to 6-3 GOP super majority, GOP has won only once in popular votes since 1992.
Polls show majority of Americans believe supreme court judges favor ideology over impartiality. Polls reflect continued erosion of confidence. To fix justice system, restore balance to supreme court, depoliticize courts by creating term limits for judges, require judges to abide by ethics rules and increase access to lower courts.
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Polls show majority of Americans believe supreme court judges favor ideology over impartiality. Polls reflect continued erosion of confidence. To fix justice system, restore balance to supreme court, depoliticize courts by creating term limits for judges, require judges to abide by ethics rules and increase access to lower courts.
Huffpost reports on judge Sotomayor warning of supreme court ruling on presidential immunity. Risk of allowing presidents to order assassination of political rivals, organize a military coup to hold onto power, or take a bribe in exchange for a pardon. Republican judges refusal to recognize anything as prosecutable is a threat to checks and balances in government.
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Huffpost reports on judge Sotomayor warning of supreme court ruling on presidential immunity. Risk of allowing presidents to order assassination of political rivals, organize a military coup to hold onto power, or take a bribe in exchange for a pardon. Republican judges refusal to recognize anything as prosecutable is a threat to checks and balances in government.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Former President and First Lady Barack and Michelle Obama are the most admired man and woman in the world, according to a new poll from YouGov. This is President Obama's first time atop the poll for men, which surveyed over 45,000 people in 42 countries. Obama is admired more than Trump in every country, except Russia, where Trump ranks 11th to Obama's 15th. Well deserved honors are no fluke. In gallup polls, Obama is the most admired American man for 9 consecutive years. Cspan survey of 70+ historians rank Obama among the best presidents in US history.
You have got to be kidding us! I have not heard his name in a conversation in a long time! The SCOTUS just butt bleeped him today! MAGA!
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Former President and First Lady Barack and Michelle Obama are the most admired man and woman in the world, according to a new poll from YouGov. This is President Obama's first time atop the poll for men, which surveyed over 45,000 people in 42 countries. Obama is admired more than Trump in every country, except Russia, where Trump ranks 11th to Obama's 15th. Well deserved honors are no fluke. In gallup polls, Obama is the most admired American man for 9 consecutive years. Cspan survey of 70+ historians rank Obama among the best presidents in US history.
You have got to be kidding us! I have not heard his name in a conversation in a long time! The SCOTUS just butt bleeped him today! MAGA!
Huffpost reports on judge Sotomayor warning of supreme court ruling on presidential immunity. Risk of allowing presidents to order assassination of political rivals, organize a military coup to hold onto power, or take a bribe in exchange for a pardon. Republican judges refusal to recognize anything as prosecutable is a threat to checks and balances in government.
She's being a little over-dramatic in my opinion, but her overall sentiment is spot on.
The ruling allows the MAGAtt-FASCISM to gain a strong hold on America if the convicted felon is voted in.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Huffpost reports on judge Sotomayor warning of supreme court ruling on presidential immunity. Risk of allowing presidents to order assassination of political rivals, organize a military coup to hold onto power, or take a bribe in exchange for a pardon. Republican judges refusal to recognize anything as prosecutable is a threat to checks and balances in government.
She's being a little over-dramatic in my opinion, but her overall sentiment is spot on.
The ruling allows the MAGAtt-FASCISM to gain a strong hold on America if the convicted felon is voted in.
Polls show majority of Americans believe supreme court judges favor ideology over impartiality. Polls reflect continued erosion of confidence.
@thirdperson
Doesn't come as too much of a surprise though. I agree with the majority on this.
SCOTUS with a 6 - 3 conservative majority have just granted themselves greater power over American life. Now, just like overturning ROWE, it doesn't matter what 2/3 of the country thinks and wants - if that minority of 6 conservative justices wants something different, then that is how it shall be.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Polls show majority of Americans believe supreme court judges favor ideology over impartiality. Polls reflect continued erosion of confidence.
@thirdperson
Doesn't come as too much of a surprise though. I agree with the majority on this.
SCOTUS with a 6 - 3 conservative majority have just granted themselves greater power over American life. Now, just like overturning ROWE, it doesn't matter what 2/3 of the country thinks and wants - if that minority of 6 conservative justices wants something different, then that is how it shall be.
Brand new WSJ survey: Majority of economists say inflation would be higher under Trump than Biden!
CNBC - A majority of 50 economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal [right-center leaning media] said former President Donald Trump's policies would be more likely to reignite inflation than President Joe Biden's would.
Of the 50 economists who answered questions about Trump and Biden in the survey, 28 of them said the risk of a return to high inflation levels was greater under the plans proposed by the Republican, than under those of the incumbent Democrat!
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Brand new WSJ survey: Majority of economists say inflation would be higher under Trump than Biden!
CNBC - A majority of 50 economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal [right-center leaning media] said former President Donald Trump's policies would be more likely to reignite inflation than President Joe Biden's would.
Of the 50 economists who answered questions about Trump and Biden in the survey, 28 of them said the risk of a return to high inflation levels was greater under the plans proposed by the Republican, than under those of the incumbent Democrat!
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Holy ahit they tried to assassinate trump at his rally Its all fake news. Just a false flag by trump and the republicans
let that sink in , Afuera #Doge
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Holy ahit they tried to assassinate trump at his rally Its all fake news. Just a false flag by trump and the republicans
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Holy ahit they tried to assassinate trump at his rally Its all fake news. Just a false flag by trump and the republicans
Real shots and real blood.
BUT....... this guarantees trump wins election now.
He and his accomplices will scream into bullhorns at everyone across America - 24/7 - that this was definitely a PLOT by the Democrats, and not a "lone wolf" action.....probably conspired by Biden and Pelosi in the basement of a pizza parlor where they commit ritual cannibalism of Christian babies while worshipping satan then selling off little kids into the pedophile markets.
It will be their "rally cry" to crush the evil Democrats!
And there are just enough dummies in America to believe that total bullshit that it *WILL* swing the election.
FASCISM here we come.
And starting Monday I am opening up new offshore accounts that take bets on the election. If America has to circle the toilet with a republican admin again then I at least am going to PROFIT "bigly" off it....
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Holy ahit they tried to assassinate trump at his rally Its all fake news. Just a false flag by trump and the republicans
Real shots and real blood.
BUT....... this guarantees trump wins election now.
He and his accomplices will scream into bullhorns at everyone across America - 24/7 - that this was definitely a PLOT by the Democrats, and not a "lone wolf" action.....probably conspired by Biden and Pelosi in the basement of a pizza parlor where they commit ritual cannibalism of Christian babies while worshipping satan then selling off little kids into the pedophile markets.
It will be their "rally cry" to crush the evil Democrats!
And there are just enough dummies in America to believe that total bullshit that it *WILL* swing the election.
FASCISM here we come.
And starting Monday I am opening up new offshore accounts that take bets on the election. If America has to circle the toilet with a republican admin again then I at least am going to PROFIT "bigly" off it....
They = person Most people who understand know what they means when you sont k ow who it is..I was the first ro post anything on this so ot was very early on No need to tey and spin it any other way...I know what you're trying to say
Actually, most people would have said "someone" rather than "they."
They = more than 1 person
Someone = only one person
No spin here. Just the facts.
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
They = person Most people who understand know what they means when you sont k ow who it is..I was the first ro post anything on this so ot was very early on No need to tey and spin it any other way...I know what you're trying to say
Actually, most people would have said "someone" rather than "they."
Am gonna keep doing what the republicans game plan on everything is now. "ITS ALL FAKE NEWS AND JUST ANOTHER REPUBLICAN FALSE FLAG" All staged. The people that died didnt really die, they were just actors. Blood on trumps ear was totally fake and anybody that believes that the bullet grazed his ear, i got beachfront property for sale in Oklahoma for a real cheap price. Yeah sure the secret service didnt see the guy on the roof, even thou they had people on roofs. And people on the ground were trying to tell the cops there was a guy on the roof and they blew these people off, cause they knew it was a fake trump shooter. Amazing how this shit just happen to happen days before republican convention and a few days after trump met with a dictator in florida. And they wasted no time getting the donation emails out tonight lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooo.
This whole thing was so fake, its actually comical. If biden wanted trump dead, he would just had the cia or military take him out, since the supreme court said that Presidents can kill political enemies. Theres no doubt in my mind, if i was biden i would send an entire hit squad down to florida and wipe trump and his cronies off the map. Come on biden remove this evil man from the planet and save democracy before its too late. And also send a team to the supreme court justices houses for some added sugar
Wonder how many days trump practiced his fake shooting and raising his fist in the air?
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Am gonna keep doing what the republicans game plan on everything is now. "ITS ALL FAKE NEWS AND JUST ANOTHER REPUBLICAN FALSE FLAG" All staged. The people that died didnt really die, they were just actors. Blood on trumps ear was totally fake and anybody that believes that the bullet grazed his ear, i got beachfront property for sale in Oklahoma for a real cheap price. Yeah sure the secret service didnt see the guy on the roof, even thou they had people on roofs. And people on the ground were trying to tell the cops there was a guy on the roof and they blew these people off, cause they knew it was a fake trump shooter. Amazing how this shit just happen to happen days before republican convention and a few days after trump met with a dictator in florida. And they wasted no time getting the donation emails out tonight lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooo.
This whole thing was so fake, its actually comical. If biden wanted trump dead, he would just had the cia or military take him out, since the supreme court said that Presidents can kill political enemies. Theres no doubt in my mind, if i was biden i would send an entire hit squad down to florida and wipe trump and his cronies off the map. Come on biden remove this evil man from the planet and save democracy before its too late. And also send a team to the supreme court justices houses for some added sugar
Wonder how many days trump practiced his fake shooting and raising his fist in the air?
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: They = person Most people who understand know what they means when you sont k ow who it is..I was the first ro post anything on this so ot was very early on No need to tey and spin it any other way...I know what you're trying to say Actually, most people would have said "someone" rather than "they." They = more than 1 person Someone = only one person No spin here. Just the facts.
ok bro whatever nice spin...they is a common expression when one doesnt know you...you always trying to spin shit...nice one
I posted minutes after the news broke so yes they because at that point it wasn't a someone it was they because it was not known as who
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: They = person Most people who understand know what they means when you sont k ow who it is..I was the first ro post anything on this so ot was very early on No need to tey and spin it any other way...I know what you're trying to say Actually, most people would have said "someone" rather than "they." They = more than 1 person Someone = only one person No spin here. Just the facts.
ok bro whatever nice spin...they is a common expression when one doesnt know you...you always trying to spin shit...nice one
I posted minutes after the news broke so yes they because at that point it wasn't a someone it was they because it was not known as who
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: They = person Most people who understand know what they means when you sont k ow who it is..I was the first ro post anything on this so ot was very early on No need to tey and spin it any other way...I know what you're trying to say Actually, most people would have said "someone" rather than "they." They = more than 1 person Someone = only one person No spin here. Just the facts. ok bro whatever nice spin...they is a common expression when one doesnt know who...you always trying to spin shit...nice one I posted minutes after the news broke so yes they because at that point it wasn't a someone it was they because it was not known as who
it's now a someone
Thomas Matthew Crooks
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: They = person Most people who understand know what they means when you sont k ow who it is..I was the first ro post anything on this so ot was very early on No need to tey and spin it any other way...I know what you're trying to say Actually, most people would have said "someone" rather than "they." They = more than 1 person Someone = only one person No spin here. Just the facts. ok bro whatever nice spin...they is a common expression when one doesnt know who...you always trying to spin shit...nice one I posted minutes after the news broke so yes they because at that point it wasn't a someone it was they because it was not known as who
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