Like everybody else I have been following this and reading what people have been saying over the last 24 hours.
Is there a remotely sane person who is not already rich that thinks the Most recent proposal is a good idea? It is insane. I can not think of a more in your face middle finger given to all of America, except for the uber rich, by this administration. And they do not even bat an eye. If you are poor, sick, old, middle age, lower income, middle income, dem, Repub, etc. you will be impacted.
Nuts
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Like everybody else I have been following this and reading what people have been saying over the last 24 hours.
Is there a remotely sane person who is not already rich that thinks the Most recent proposal is a good idea? It is insane. I can not think of a more in your face middle finger given to all of America, except for the uber rich, by this administration. And they do not even bat an eye. If you are poor, sick, old, middle age, lower income, middle income, dem, Repub, etc. you will be impacted.
I hope it passes so that all the poor, middle of America, Redneck Trump supporters then realize that now they can't afford health coverage. That the trailer park princesses on their fourth pregnancy don't have planned parenthood. Middle-class conservatives like to believe it's only minorities. They have no idea what's really going on. And poor conservatives don't realize that they're getting f#cked over. It doesn't matter to me. I have health coverage.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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I hope it passes so that all the poor, middle of America, Redneck Trump supporters then realize that now they can't afford health coverage. That the trailer park princesses on their fourth pregnancy don't have planned parenthood. Middle-class conservatives like to believe it's only minorities. They have no idea what's really going on. And poor conservatives don't realize that they're getting f#cked over. It doesn't matter to me. I have health coverage.
I hope it passes so that all the poor, middle of America, Redneck Trump supporters then realize that now they can't afford health coverage. That the trailer park princesses on their fourth pregnancy don't have planned parenthood. Middle-class conservatives like to believe it's only minorities. They have no idea what's really going on. And poor conservatives don't realize that they're getting f#cked over. It doesn't matter to me. I have health coverage.
Those hardest hit areas will include Trump's die hard base, low income folks in West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Nevada...and rust belt.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
I hope it passes so that all the poor, middle of America, Redneck Trump supporters then realize that now they can't afford health coverage. That the trailer park princesses on their fourth pregnancy don't have planned parenthood. Middle-class conservatives like to believe it's only minorities. They have no idea what's really going on. And poor conservatives don't realize that they're getting f#cked over. It doesn't matter to me. I have health coverage.
Those hardest hit areas will include Trump's die hard base, low income folks in West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Nevada...and rust belt.
Both are all the work of House an Senate. Notice Trump is not attaching his name. This is now and maybe soon but not before July 4th, the Politicians Recess July 4th thru 9th. Freaking Recess, they could cancel as in past but do you think anything comes before the Swamp Boys/Girls........
Not that I think Healthcare is important to them or if you think you are, you may be surprised. As far as the above comments on Trump diverting money to the wealthy, why did you not object when Obama gave Millions illegally to Insurance Companies?
Both are all the work of House an Senate. Notice Trump is not attaching his name. This is now and maybe soon but not before July 4th, the Politicians Recess July 4th thru 9th. Freaking Recess, they could cancel as in past but do you think anything comes before the Swamp Boys/Girls........
Not that I think Healthcare is important to them or if you think you are, you may be surprised. As far as the above comments on Trump diverting money to the wealthy, why did you not object when Obama gave Millions illegally to Insurance Companies?
i'm going to f*ck you guys over badly, then i'm going on vacation, i'm going to continue to have the best healthcare, you're going to pay for it and you'll keep voting for me and people like me.
to be fair, i think this applies to our current government more than ever, but it can be said about any group in washington as long as the billion dollar insurance companies have their say.
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it really is amazing.
i'm going to f*ck you guys over badly, then i'm going on vacation, i'm going to continue to have the best healthcare, you're going to pay for it and you'll keep voting for me and people like me.
to be fair, i think this applies to our current government more than ever, but it can be said about any group in washington as long as the billion dollar insurance companies have their say.
i'm going to f*ck you guys over badly, then i'm going on vacation, i'm going to continue to have the best healthcare, you're going to pay for it and you'll keep voting for me and people like me.
to be fair, i think this applies to our current government more than ever, but it can be said about any group in washington as long as the billion dollar insurance companies have their say.
The $800+ billion saving from this Mitch McConnell Health Bill will kick back to the richest Americans, pharmaceutical and health care insurance companies.
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
it really is amazing.
i'm going to f*ck you guys over badly, then i'm going on vacation, i'm going to continue to have the best healthcare, you're going to pay for it and you'll keep voting for me and people like me.
to be fair, i think this applies to our current government more than ever, but it can be said about any group in washington as long as the billion dollar insurance companies have their say.
The $800+ billion saving from this Mitch McConnell Health Bill will kick back to the richest Americans, pharmaceutical and health care insurance companies.
The $800+ billion saving from this Mitch McConnell Health Bill will kick back to the richest Americans, pharmaceutical and health care insurance companies.
no doubt, this is flagrant redistribution of wealth/benefits from the most vulnerable to the richest people.
but when you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, how is it ever going to change? especially when the people making the money can get the people getting so f*cked to support it so enthusiastically.
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
The $800+ billion saving from this Mitch McConnell Health Bill will kick back to the richest Americans, pharmaceutical and health care insurance companies.
no doubt, this is flagrant redistribution of wealth/benefits from the most vulnerable to the richest people.
but when you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, how is it ever going to change? especially when the people making the money can get the people getting so f*cked to support it so enthusiastically.
no doubt, this is flagrant redistribution of wealth/benefits from the most vulnerable to the richest people.
but when you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, how is it ever going to change? especially when the people making the money can get the people getting so f*cked to support it so enthusiastically.
Unfortunately, ideology plays key role in the politics. People support their ideology in the politics which runs against their own interests or protecions. This Senate Health Bill will badly hurt some of the Trump's base.
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
no doubt, this is flagrant redistribution of wealth/benefits from the most vulnerable to the richest people.
but when you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, how is it ever going to change? especially when the people making the money can get the people getting so f*cked to support it so enthusiastically.
Unfortunately, ideology plays key role in the politics. People support their ideology in the politics which runs against their own interests or protecions. This Senate Health Bill will badly hurt some of the Trump's base.
the "healthcare" bill has a provision that eliminates a tax on investment income if you make more than $200,000/year. first, what does that have to do with our f*cked up healthcare system
even better, the tax cut starts this year and is retroactive. but, the cuts in spending mentioned above don't start for several years. any economics majors know what effect this will have on the debt. here's a hint: less money coming in now coupled with no corresponding cuts in spending for several years.
"conservatives" love it though because it's "conservative" as long as they call it "conservative" and people who call themselves "conservatives" support it. that's how being "conservative" works.
the "healthcare" bill has a provision that eliminates a tax on investment income if you make more than $200,000/year. first, what does that have to do with our f*cked up healthcare system
even better, the tax cut starts this year and is retroactive. but, the cuts in spending mentioned above don't start for several years. any economics majors know what effect this will have on the debt. here's a hint: less money coming in now coupled with no corresponding cuts in spending for several years.
"conservatives" love it though because it's "conservative" as long as they call it "conservative" and people who call themselves "conservatives" support it. that's how being "conservative" works.
the "healthcare" bill has a provision that eliminates a tax on investment income if you make more than $200,000/year. first, what does that have to do with our f*cked up healthcare system
even better, the tax cut starts this year and is retroactive. but, the cuts in spending mentioned above don't start for several years. any economics majors know what effect this will have on the debt. here's a hint: less money coming in now coupled with no corresponding cuts in spending for several years.
"conservatives" love it though because it's "conservative" as long as they call it "conservative" and people who call themselves "conservatives" support it. that's how being "conservative" works.
CONSERVATIVES : Abortion is EVIL , Even RAPED WOMEN should carry to full term
ALSO CONSERVATIVES : FU%% that 5 yr old girl who has Cancer , She can die since her health insurance does NOT cover the required treatments ....
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
the "healthcare" bill has a provision that eliminates a tax on investment income if you make more than $200,000/year. first, what does that have to do with our f*cked up healthcare system
even better, the tax cut starts this year and is retroactive. but, the cuts in spending mentioned above don't start for several years. any economics majors know what effect this will have on the debt. here's a hint: less money coming in now coupled with no corresponding cuts in spending for several years.
"conservatives" love it though because it's "conservative" as long as they call it "conservative" and people who call themselves "conservatives" support it. that's how being "conservative" works.
Unfortunately, ideology plays key role in the politics. People support their ideology in the politics which runs against their own interests or protecions. This Senate Health Bill will badly hurt some of the Trump's base.
It won't matter 80% of his base are brain dead zombies .... You could round them up and HE shoot their Children in the head and they would still say MAGA and LOVE their MASTER ....
Real IDIOTS who actually think the Orange Trust fund Clown represents them ....
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Unfortunately, ideology plays key role in the politics. People support their ideology in the politics which runs against their own interests or protecions. This Senate Health Bill will badly hurt some of the Trump's base.
It won't matter 80% of his base are brain dead zombies .... You could round them up and HE shoot their Children in the head and they would still say MAGA and LOVE their MASTER ....
Real IDIOTS who actually think the Orange Trust fund Clown represents them ....
Just like the Obama years huh Double? Please tell me who benefitted from the Obama years besides Iran? I dare ya.
Obama & the wifey were down with the people huh? Yeah right.
His legacy is BLM, ISIS and a failed Healthcare plan. Thank God we survived his reign...
WHY are TRUMP SUPPORTERS LIKE A 9YR OLD CHILD ?????
Sounds exactly like when my daughter comes home from school and I ask " Why were you disrupting the class ???" She often responds with well Jenny was doing this & Megan was doing that .....
PLEASE JUST STICK TO OUR CURRENT GOVERNMENT IDIOT !!!!!
O BAMA IS NOT IN OFFICE
PLEASE FOCUS ON THE CURRENT MORON ......
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:
Just like the Obama years huh Double? Please tell me who benefitted from the Obama years besides Iran? I dare ya.
Obama & the wifey were down with the people huh? Yeah right.
His legacy is BLM, ISIS and a failed Healthcare plan. Thank God we survived his reign...
WHY are TRUMP SUPPORTERS LIKE A 9YR OLD CHILD ?????
Sounds exactly like when my daughter comes home from school and I ask " Why were you disrupting the class ???" She often responds with well Jenny was doing this & Megan was doing that .....
PLEASE JUST STICK TO OUR CURRENT GOVERNMENT IDIOT !!!!!
According to medical daily, US has the worst healthcare system among rich nations. Commonwealth fund rates systems based on quality care, access, equity, efficiency and healthy lives. Here, the US rank low in equity, efficiency, access and healthy lives. Obamacare is an improvement on the old system but Trumpcare is worser.
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According to medical daily, US has the worst healthcare system among rich nations. Commonwealth fund rates systems based on quality care, access, equity, efficiency and healthy lives. Here, the US rank low in equity, efficiency, access and healthy lives. Obamacare is an improvement on the old system but Trumpcare is worser.
According to medical daily, US has the worst healthcare system among rich nations. Commonwealth fund rates systems based on quality care, access, equity, efficiency and healthy lives. Here, the US rank low in equity, efficiency, access and healthy lives. Obamacare is an improvement on the old system but Trumpcare is worser.
Like what I've said in the other threads. All of the western industrialized nations, plus Australia, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan and yes, Russia, have a universal health care system. UK has provided universal health care to it's people since 1948.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
According to medical daily, US has the worst healthcare system among rich nations. Commonwealth fund rates systems based on quality care, access, equity, efficiency and healthy lives. Here, the US rank low in equity, efficiency, access and healthy lives. Obamacare is an improvement on the old system but Trumpcare is worser.
Like what I've said in the other threads. All of the western industrialized nations, plus Australia, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan and yes, Russia, have a universal health care system. UK has provided universal health care to it's people since 1948.
Under Mitch McConnell's GOP Senate Health Bill, 22 millions more people will be uninsured by 2026, 15 million of them will get kicked out from their health insurance next year, according to Congressional Budget Office today.
50 votes needed to get this Bill to pass in the Senate, this Thursday might be the judgement day for McConnell. Turning point is up shortly, for GOP or Dems and those people get affected by this Bill.
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Under Mitch McConnell's GOP Senate Health Bill, 22 millions more people will be uninsured by 2026, 15 million of them will get kicked out from their health insurance next year, according to Congressional Budget Office today.
50 votes needed to get this Bill to pass in the Senate, this Thursday might be the judgement day for McConnell. Turning point is up shortly, for GOP or Dems and those people get affected by this Bill.
(CNSNews.com) Aug.8th 2012-- A new Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) report says that under the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare,
30 million non-elderly Americans will remain without health insurance
in 2022.
One of the main arguments the Obama administration made for passing
the Affordable Care Act was that it would provide coverage for the
uninsured.
Currently, accoriding to CBO, there are 53 million uninsured persons
in the United States, including uninsured illegal aliens. The CBO estimates that in 2022--8 years after the Affordable Care Act has been fully implemented--30 million people will remain uninsured.
Under Obamacare, 8 % of legal U.S. residents will remain without health insurance in 2022, according to CBO.
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(CNSNews.com) Aug.8th 2012-- A new Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) report says that under the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare,
30 million non-elderly Americans will remain without health insurance
in 2022.
One of the main arguments the Obama administration made for passing
the Affordable Care Act was that it would provide coverage for the
uninsured.
Currently, accoriding to CBO, there are 53 million uninsured persons
in the United States, including uninsured illegal aliens. The CBO estimates that in 2022--8 years after the Affordable Care Act has been fully implemented--30 million people will remain uninsured.
Under Obamacare, 8 % of legal U.S. residents will remain without health insurance in 2022, according to CBO.
Democrats in Congress are saying Trumpcare will kill millions ..
Before Obamacare 48 million people were uninsured...after Obamacare 28 million people were still uninsured ..according to the left uninsured people will die ..so are the Democrats and Obama be responsible for killing the 28 million Americans ?
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Democrats in Congress are saying Trumpcare will kill millions ..
Before Obamacare 48 million people were uninsured...after Obamacare 28 million people were still uninsured ..according to the left uninsured people will die ..so are the Democrats and Obama be responsible for killing the 28 million Americans ?
congressional members in the senate have want lists for their consitutients. well a whole lot of ear marks have to be added before the final five move to support this pc of legislation and because it was not the same as the houses version another bunch of add ons i guess the best way to explain the procedure to kick back to the senate where it will eventually be approved . this wheel is real real dry and alot of grease is needed.
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congressional members in the senate have want lists for their consitutients. well a whole lot of ear marks have to be added before the final five move to support this pc of legislation and because it was not the same as the houses version another bunch of add ons i guess the best way to explain the procedure to kick back to the senate where it will eventually be approved . this wheel is real real dry and alot of grease is needed.
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