https://wreg.com/news/local/man-charged-with-double-murder-after-killing-pregnant-woman-police-say/
https://fox4kc.com/news/man-charged-with-double-murder-after-shooting-killing-pregnant-woman/
Funny how that works both ways.
Me, I'm no anti-abortionist, just make it reasonable like before 3.5 months unless life threatening of course. Seems reasonable.
Uniman, I'd prefer that a pregnant woman makes such an important decision sooner rather than later. But it's HER decision, not a rapist's, not a family member's, not a fanatical cleric's, not the government's.
I certainly don't want the government (or any rapists, family members or clergymen) taking control of my genitalia.
If abortion is murder, than a blowjob is cannibalism.
@DogbiteWilliams
But only if she (or he) swallows. At whichpoint their logic implies that this would also constitute murder as well.
Some loons actually consider that the withdrawal method of contraception is sinful, and therefore punishable.
It is AOK with you if the government mandates an untested, risky vaccine on everyone else though right? What about my freedom to say no without being punished for it?
Simply because you live in fear? Hell, buy a dog or a gun...I could care less about your fears...I have my own fears to deal with.
Plus the decision to allow abortion will be put into the individual states' hands...the ruling will not be a federal mandate disallowing abortion.
I doubt if anyone of sound mind wants the job of controlling your genitalia. 
In a deadly pandemic, people's choice to remain unvaccinated against an infectious disease can adversely harm other people. Vaccine mandates help to prevent thousands of hospitalizations. By allowing for safe reopening of US economy, vaccination of population has restored more freedoms. Many countries have given full approval to vaccines now proven to be safe and effective after billions of doses administered worldwide.
If Roe versus Wade is overturned, decades of social progress in civil rights would be lost in return to a dark past. Women and doctors could be jailed for ending pregnancies. Women denied abortions are more likely to risk health complications, poverty, domestic violence and lower life aspirations. Problem is that almost half of US would lose some abortion healthcare because of over restrictive laws. For example, no abortion after 6 weeks instead of 12 weeks minimum under Roe versus Wade. Halving the time for 91% of abortions normally performed. Many women won't have enough time to realize they are pregnant due to irregular menstrual periods.
@thirdperson
If an unvaccinated person can infect a vaccinated person then that disproves right there that the vaccines work. Polio vaccines work for example...if one takes the polio vaccine... you are protected from polio. End of story...
In reality, vaccinated people shed proteins which can cause vaccinated and unvaccinated people to be infected and has led to the creation of the variants.
Though you refuse to believe it, many people have been adversely affected by the vaccines...the information is out there.
If the vaccines actually worked, I would take them, but since they don't, I won't.
Unvaccinated people who are infected are more likely to be infected and to infect other people because vaccinated people are able to clear viral loads faster. Also unvaccinated people are more likely to be hospitalized or die from covid compared to the fully vaccinated.
Polio and covid vaccines show 90% efficacy in clinical trials. Key difference is that over 90% of US population is vaccinated against polio while smaller share is vaccinated against covid. If polio circulates as widely as covid, there would be more polio cases.
Spike proteins can only shed if vaccine contains a weakened version of the virus. No covid vaccines authorized in the US contain viruses. No evidence vaccinated people shed proteins to spread virus. No proof of new variant originating from any vaccinated person.
Problem is that the vacc impacts will not be fully known for 10-15 yrs, the trials were rushed and there have been complications already and that cannot be dismissed. Also there is no full proof protection from getting a vacc, people who get vaccs still are hosts and can transmit just like those who decide against the vacc.
There are still bio firms doing trials TODAY for Covid vaccs, several years later and I do not trust that the process was correct and accurate from any of the companies who rushed their products forward, in fact there were some companies that had horrible first trials but miraculously things sorted out quickly...yeah sure.
On the original topic I am pro-life in my house, my choices but for the public and the rights of women I am pro-choice for society.
LOL
Where did I say 40 months...or weeks or any term? I am pro-life in my house and I am pro-choice to the protection of the mother for my public position. You do not have to force your agenda onto another person to support life, I am not the judge of another and I support the laws which are in place and I will act how I feel personally in my own house.
If the mother life is in danger the fetus can be aborted.
, there are absolutely certain medical conditions that warrant us to very urgently encourage a woman to have an abortion,” said Stacey Beck, MD and Assistant Professor at the Department of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences, Maternal Fetal Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh Physicians
“One of the most common reasons I help women to terminate their pregnancy is because their water is broke [early in pregnancy] and they have an infection,” Beck said.
If there’s a clear sign of infection, the condition can be life threatening, “because there is an extremely high risk that the infection inside of the uterus spreads very quickly into her bloodstream and she becomes septic. If she continues the pregnancy it comes at a very high risk of death.”
“Typically, if a woman breaks her water before 20 weeks into her pregnancy, it is usually strongly recommended by medical professionals that she considers an abortion,” Beck said.
Are you explaining WallStreet’s opinion for him?
Long term effects that do not show up until years later are impossible according to leading immunologists and are not known in vaccine history. This is because vaccines are broken down quickly in human bodies and cannot trigger lasting reactions. Bio design center for immunology says "there are no scientific reasons to predict complications in new vaccines in future years." Good thing about covid vaccines is that billions of doses have been administered worldwide, allowing rare side effects to be identified quickly.
@I_Need_A_Detox
I am pro choice for my public position, I support under the law that exists that the right to choose is up to the mother as to the limits and terms that the law provides.
No more complicated than this, I support a womans right to make a choice for society and I am pro-life inside the walls of my own house and my own personal choice outside any risk or harm of course. When people take their own religious beliefs and force them onto society it is not a position I support in general.
I am not religious but I don’t agree that a woman should have 40 weeks to decide if she wants to keep the baby or not.
If a baby dies in the womb at 30+ weeks they let the mother and father hold it to help with the grieving process.
I am surprised to see that you don’t have limit your would like to see put on our society.
I live inside the laws of society as to interacting with society and others, I live my own personal life in different terms and that is how I choose to interact with others and co-exist.
40 weeks where are you coming up with 40 weeks anyway? 40 weeks is 10 months, abortion in its general application does not give carte blanche up to 40 weeks, you are very very loosely generalizing based on medical extremes and trying to portray someone using those extremes but that makes perfect sense given how you interact with others here.
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