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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2025 - 8:04 PM ET #2476

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: BUSINESS INSIDER -   An appeals court upheld a jury verdict finding Donald Trump liable for sexually abusing his victim, E. Jean Carroll.  

    The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued a written opinion upholding the $5 million award that the Manhattan jury granted to E. Jean Carroll for defamation and sexual abuse.  

    In its ruling, a three-judge panel of the appeals court rejected claims by Trump's lawyers that trial Judge Lewis A. Kaplan had made multiple decisions that spoiled the trial, including by permitting two other women who had accused Trump of sexually abusing them to testify.

     

    The judge also had allowed the jury to view the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape in which Trump boasted in 2005 about grabbing women’s genitals because when someone is a star, “you can do anything.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: BUSINESS INSIDER -   An appeals court upheld a jury verdict finding Donald Trump liable for sexually abusing his victim, E. Jean Carroll.  

    The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued a written opinion upholding the $5 million award that the Manhattan jury granted to E. Jean Carroll for defamation and sexual abuse.  

    In its ruling, a three-judge panel of the appeals court rejected claims by Trump's lawyers that trial Judge Lewis A. Kaplan had made multiple decisions that spoiled the trial, including by permitting two other women who had accused Trump of sexually abusing them to testify.

     

    The judge also had allowed the jury to view the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape in which Trump boasted in 2005 about grabbing women’s genitals because when someone is a star, “you can do anything.”

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2025 - 6:07 AM ET #2477

    an_speak  trump's appeal REJECTED!

     

    AP -

    The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump
    sexually abused Carroll and defamed her
    with comments he made in October 2022.


    That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.

     

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    an_speak  trump's appeal REJECTED!

     

    AP -

    The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump
    sexually abused Carroll and defamed her
    with comments he made in October 2022.


    That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2025 - 6:09 AM ET #2478

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.

     

    quiet     In January, a second jury awarded Carroll
    an additional $83.3 million in damages
    for comments Trump had made about her while
    he was president, finding that they were defamatory. 

     

    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST.

    His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard.

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    trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.

     

    quiet     In January, a second jury awarded Carroll
    an additional $83.3 million in damages
    for comments Trump had made about her while
    he was president, finding that they were defamatory. 

     

    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST.

    His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard.

                                 an_popcorn

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard.


    Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives.

    Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard.


    Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives.

    Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2025 - 10:35 PM ET #2480

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard. Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives. Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump.

    Trump was found liable for “sexual abuse,”
    but not rape, with the judge later commenting
    that by definitions outside of New York law,
    Trump’s actions could be understood as “rape.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard. Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives. Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump.

    Trump was found liable for “sexual abuse,”
    but not rape, with the judge later commenting
    that by definitions outside of New York law,
    Trump’s actions could be understood as “rape.”

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2025 - 10:42 PM ET #2481

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     And Biden took showers with his daughter!

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     And Biden took showers with his daughter!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2025 - 12:29 AM ET #2482

    FOX5 -

    Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump


    President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

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    FOX5 -

    Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump


    President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

                          an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2025 - 1:27 AM ET #2483

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard. Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives. Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump. Trump was found liable for “sexual abuse,” but not rape, with the judge later commenting that by definitions outside of New York law, Trump’s actions could be understood as “rape.”

    Let's get a few thinks straight because democrats love to say, "Trump’s a convicted felon! Trump’s a rapist!" And this this morphs into, "Trump’s a convicted rapist!" E. Jean Carroll sued Trump in civil court. This would have never been a criminal case because there is such a dearth of evidence, it would've never gone to trial. There was literally not enough evidence to prosecute him. And by not enough, I mean there was zero evidence. E. Jean Carroll accused him of penetrating her first with his fingers, and then briefly with his penis. The jury found that it was unlikely that he penetrated her with his penis but sure, maybe he finger banged her. That means by the jury's own verdict, they are saying she is likely a liar. Let that sink in. She claims one thing and they said, "No, we don't believe that happened."

    They threw her a bone because this case was never about her or her story. It's was about being able to call Trump a rapist in an election. E. Jean Carroll is a pathological liar. She accused Les Moonves of sexual assault as well. And technically Hunter S. Thompson. There's just something about E. Jean, am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard. Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives. Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump. Trump was found liable for “sexual abuse,” but not rape, with the judge later commenting that by definitions outside of New York law, Trump’s actions could be understood as “rape.”

    Let's get a few thinks straight because democrats love to say, "Trump’s a convicted felon! Trump’s a rapist!" And this this morphs into, "Trump’s a convicted rapist!" E. Jean Carroll sued Trump in civil court. This would have never been a criminal case because there is such a dearth of evidence, it would've never gone to trial. There was literally not enough evidence to prosecute him. And by not enough, I mean there was zero evidence. E. Jean Carroll accused him of penetrating her first with his fingers, and then briefly with his penis. The jury found that it was unlikely that he penetrated her with his penis but sure, maybe he finger banged her. That means by the jury's own verdict, they are saying she is likely a liar. Let that sink in. She claims one thing and they said, "No, we don't believe that happened."

    They threw her a bone because this case was never about her or her story. It's was about being able to call Trump a rapist in an election. E. Jean Carroll is a pathological liar. She accused Les Moonves of sexual assault as well. And technically Hunter S. Thompson. There's just something about E. Jean, am I right?

     
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    I find it utterly hilarious that democrats based their whole campaign on abortion and calling Trump a rapist and women collectively said, "Nah, we're not buying into that bull doodoo. He made gains in every female demographic except black women. Every race and age group of women except black women moved their needle towards Trump and the republican party.

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    I find it utterly hilarious that democrats based their whole campaign on abortion and calling Trump a rapist and women collectively said, "Nah, we're not buying into that bull doodoo. He made gains in every female demographic except black women. Every race and age group of women except black women moved their needle towards Trump and the republican party.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

    appeals court upholds the law ! an_clap

    an_cheers       

                

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    FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

    appeals court upholds the law ! an_clap

    an_cheers       

                

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard. Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives. Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump. Trump was found liable for “sexual abuse,” but not rape, with the judge later commenting that by definitions outside of New York law, Trump’s actions could be understood as “rape.” Let's get a few thinks straight because democrats love to say, "Trump’s a convicted felon! Trump’s a rapist!" And this this morphs into, "Trump’s a convicted rapist!" E. Jean Carroll sued Trump in civil court. This would have never been a criminal case because there is such a dearth of evidence, it would've never gone to trial. There was literally not enough evidence to prosecute him. And by not enough, I mean there was zero evidence. E. Jean Carroll accused him of penetrating her first with his fingers, and then briefly with his penis. The jury found that it was unlikely that he penetrated her with his penis but sure, maybe he finger banged her. That means by the jury's own verdict, they are saying she is likely a liar. Let that sink in. She claims one thing and they said, "No, we don't believe that happened." They threw her a bone because this case was never about her or her story. It's was about being able to call Trump a rapist in an election. E. Jean Carroll is a pathological liar. She accused Les Moonves of sexual assault as well. And technically Hunter S. Thompson. There's just something about E. Jean, am I right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: trump's appeal REJECTED!   AP - The first jury found in May 2023 that Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her with comments he made in October 2022. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.        In January, a second jury awarded Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damagesfor comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory.    Trump's appeal of the first jury award just LOST. His appeal of the second, larger jury award hasn't been heard. Carroll testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said motivated some people to send her death threats and leave her fearful to leave the upstate New York cabin where she lives. Both juries sided with her against Donald Trump. Trump was found liable for “sexual abuse,” but not rape, with the judge later commenting that by definitions outside of New York law, Trump’s actions could be understood as “rape.” Let's get a few thinks straight because democrats love to say, "Trump’s a convicted felon! Trump’s a rapist!" And this this morphs into, "Trump’s a convicted rapist!" E. Jean Carroll sued Trump in civil court. This would have never been a criminal case because there is such a dearth of evidence, it would've never gone to trial. There was literally not enough evidence to prosecute him. And by not enough, I mean there was zero evidence. E. Jean Carroll accused him of penetrating her first with his fingers, and then briefly with his penis. The jury found that it was unlikely that he penetrated her with his penis but sure, maybe he finger banged her. That means by the jury's own verdict, they are saying she is likely a liar. Let that sink in. She claims one thing and they said, "No, we don't believe that happened." They threw her a bone because this case was never about her or her story. It's was about being able to call Trump a rapist in an election. E. Jean Carroll is a pathological liar. She accused Les Moonves of sexual assault as well. And technically Hunter S. Thompson. There's just something about E. Jean, am I right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

     

    appeals court upholds the law !

     

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    Always good to see a righteous judgement - as judged by a jury - is upheld!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

     

    appeals court upholds the law !

     

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    Always good to see a righteous judgement - as judged by a jury - is upheld!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

    A dressing room in a popular, and at the time, always busy department store. Dressing rooms that by policy were kept locked and staffed with by attendant, that had to be unlocked by said attendant before entering, on that faithful day, they were unattened and at least one was left unlocked. This isn't a Mervyn's we're talking about. Bergdorf was a tight ship in the 90s. Yuppie central. Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate.

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    FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

    A dressing room in a popular, and at the time, always busy department store. Dressing rooms that by policy were kept locked and staffed with by attendant, that had to be unlocked by said attendant before entering, on that faithful day, they were unattened and at least one was left unlocked. This isn't a Mervyn's we're talking about. Bergdorf was a tight ship in the 90s. Yuppie central. Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

     

     

    appeals court upholds the law !

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    When the 2nd defamation case appeal is heard I expect the same righteous result!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: FOX5 - Appeals court upholds $5 million award for E. Jean Carroll in sexual abuse case against Trump President-elect Donald Trump lost his bid to toss out a New York jury's verdict that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in an upscale department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.

     

     

    appeals court upholds the law !

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    When the 2nd defamation case appeal is heard I expect the same righteous result!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate.

    No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt.

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    Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate.

    No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt.

    You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt.

    You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt.

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     Of course.  an_clap

    The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort.

    trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER

     

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    No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt.

    @thirdperson

     Of course.  an_clap

    The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort.

    trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.

     

    No Stu, they know the case and like the jury, in a left dominated state, they don't care. They hate Trump so much they are willing to do what they know is wrong. Same with their elected leaders.

    Now the lies is all they have to cling to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.

     

    No Stu, they know the case and like the jury, in a left dominated state, they don't care. They hate Trump so much they are willing to do what they know is wrong. Same with their elected leaders.

    Now the lies is all they have to cling to.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. @thirdperson  Of course.  The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort. trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER

    Anyone here is also has access to court proceedings. You can literally read the court proceedings online. And you can read her claims and judge for yourself but it's definitely much easier to stick your head in the sand. That's always easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. @thirdperson  Of course.  The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort. trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER

    Anyone here is also has access to court proceedings. You can literally read the court proceedings online. And you can read her claims and judge for yourself but it's definitely much easier to stick your head in the sand. That's always easier.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.   No Stu, they know the case and like the jury, in a left dominated state, they don't care. They hate Trump so much they are willing to do what they know is wrong. Same with their elected leaders. Now the lies is all they have to cling to.

     

    I find it hilarious because it's backfiring as I said it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.   No Stu, they know the case and like the jury, in a left dominated state, they don't care. They hate Trump so much they are willing to do what they know is wrong. Same with their elected leaders. Now the lies is all they have to cling to.

     

    I find it hilarious because it's backfiring as I said it would.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. @thirdperson  Of course.  The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort. trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER

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    Jury.  Unanimous.   Donald pussygrabber Trump, sex offense!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. @thirdperson  Of course.  The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort. trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER

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    Jury.  Unanimous.   Donald pussygrabber Trump, sex offense!

     

    E. Jean Carroll  an_clap

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. @thirdperson  Of course.  The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort. trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER @fubah2 Jury.  Unanimous.   Donald pussygrabber Trump, sex offense!   E. Jean Carroll

     

    That's President-elect pussygrabber. I guess the women of the country saw through the bullcrap and elected him anyway while a handful of liberal boomers across the country treat calling him a sex-offender like it's a constellation prize. He's not a sex offender though. He was sued in civil court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. @thirdperson  Of course.  The jury - approved by lawyers from both sides - had access to the all the available information/testimony (unlike anyone here) and after debate made their conclusion as per our laws and system of justice.   I applaud their effort. trump is not only a  jury judged fraud & convicted felon but a jury judged despicable SEX-OFFENDER @fubah2 Jury.  Unanimous.   Donald pussygrabber Trump, sex offense!   E. Jean Carroll

     

    That's President-elect pussygrabber. I guess the women of the country saw through the bullcrap and elected him anyway while a handful of liberal boomers across the country treat calling him a sex-offender like it's a constellation prize. He's not a sex offender though. He was sued in civil court.

     
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    More moves toward FASCISM

     

    Elon Musk has asked whether the U.S. should “liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government” as the tech billionaire intervened in U.K. politics again.

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    More moves toward FASCISM

     

    Elon Musk has asked whether the U.S. should “liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government” as the tech billionaire intervened in U.K. politics again.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.   No Stu, they know the case and like the jury, in a left dominated state, they don't care. They hate Trump so much they are willing to do what they know is wrong. Same with their elected leaders. Now the lies is all they have to cling to.

    The crazy thing is i'm not some big Trumper. Neither of us are. And I hate talking about this subject. My wife is disgusted by it, as if i'm defending a monster. I'm not defending him though. I'm simply stating the facts. There are glaring inconsistencies in her a story. A story penned to sell books. None of it makes sense. And the jury must've knew that because she said one thing happened and they said, "No, it didn't but we'll throw you a bone." This "case" was always about labeling Trump a rapist. That's why you have the uber liberal judge saying things like, "It doesn't constitute rape under New York law but it's rape." Whatever. It would be next to impossible for her story to be true but this civil suit was never about truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Yet Donald Trump slipped in unnoticed and raped a chick in a dressing room. This is the equivalent of Pizzagate. No evidence supports pizza gate conspiracy theory debunked by police.  However evidences show that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually abused Carroll.  So under civil law, jury reached the right verdict in defamation case.  Unlike criminal law which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. You're wrong. It shows You're clearly unfamiliar with the case. There was literally no evidence. On the contrary, there's more evidence that it was probably fabricated. Hence the jury saying that they don't believe her story as it was told. This is a deranged woman and the people who call Trump a rapist have never dug into her story. And that's all it is. A story. She lifted the idea from an episode of Law & Order. None of it adds up. She admits as much. Democrats just wanted so badly to believe it though.   No Stu, they know the case and like the jury, in a left dominated state, they don't care. They hate Trump so much they are willing to do what they know is wrong. Same with their elected leaders. Now the lies is all they have to cling to.

    The crazy thing is i'm not some big Trumper. Neither of us are. And I hate talking about this subject. My wife is disgusted by it, as if i'm defending a monster. I'm not defending him though. I'm simply stating the facts. There are glaring inconsistencies in her a story. A story penned to sell books. None of it makes sense. And the jury must've knew that because she said one thing happened and they said, "No, it didn't but we'll throw you a bone." This "case" was always about labeling Trump a rapist. That's why you have the uber liberal judge saying things like, "It doesn't constitute rape under New York law but it's rape." Whatever. It would be next to impossible for her story to be true but this civil suit was never about truth.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    More moves toward FASCISM   Elon Musk has asked whether the U.S. should “liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government” as the tech billionaire intervened in U.K. politics again.

    Musk is a racist, so it figures.

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    More moves toward FASCISM   Elon Musk has asked whether the U.S. should “liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government” as the tech billionaire intervened in U.K. politics again.

    Musk is a racist, so it figures.

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