Immigration Issue

This thread is about our border invasion, not Ukraine funding.

And just what Biden admin objectives has Ukraine has not listened to ??????

I believe they have followed "our objectives" all the way. 

@UNIMAN

 I do not believe that our objective is to provoke Russia to escalate further, that has never been an objective of any president or military leader like ever?

What does provoking Russia do that is positive for our real allies, like most of Europe? What is our gain there? You cant suggest that we really think Ukraine is going to defeat Russia and we can put in some military satellite ops there can you? WWIII comes before Russia allows backyard NATO, just like we went bonkers with the prospect of Cuba being a sat for Russia.

I think what you are NOT seeing is a word DJT does not have in his vocab and I do not think you do either, Diplomacy...it means not blurting out every single stupid thought or idea or plan to the MSM or to Twitter...that is what Trump does, it is not what Biden or any president before the dopus ever did. So while I think Biden is not in favor of either situation (Ukraine or Israel) the media move is to say nothing and try to support who we feel we have to. There is NOOOOO way that Biden wants to ramp up or extend a Russia tangle but given what a total piece of work the Ukraine leader is what else can he do? If he says no more freebies then it makes the US look weak and Russia comes off as the victor so Biden is acting like a leader and not a twitter dope.

@THEMUGG

 You're right.

I was responding to the Ukraine posts in this thread.

@wallstreetcappers

 You never answered my question but deflected to Trump. Biden admin has never even tried for peace and has encouraged this war. To say Ukraine will not listen to current US objectives is a false statement, IMO.

What you don't do is say Putin is a murder without a soul and Kim is a thug. That may be great for vote getting but it is suicide on the world stage. Saying Putin and Xi is smart and Kim is "different" is a much better idea and will keep communication lines open for peace. 

Trump may have overused Twitter calling Hilliary "Crooked Hilliary" and Pelosi "Crazy Nancy" yet he never was so stupid as to call world adversaries with nukes names. 

And ya wonder why all was quiet during Trump admin. Third thinks he was just lucky, yeah right.

I believe the democrat objective is to punish Russia.

Ever since Hilliary had her server hacked.

Right after it was "Trump is in bed with Russia" complete with illegal FBI spying on Trump.

Then came the Steele Dossier bought illegaly by Hillary, phony as hell, meant to smear a sitting president. 

Then came the 2020 Russia is interfering. When actually Russia was stoking black americans to hate police and the government and Dems joined in with the hate police.

Now it's 2024 and here we go again. Pelosi on MSNBC saying Putin has something on Trump. Then another from that network said the 51 former intel officiers were right in 2020, the laptop WAS Russian disinformation. And now charges on an informant, tie him to.........you guessed it, RUSSIA! And charges for Christopher Steele??? Of course not.

Then you have these idiots saying this Smirnoff was the star witness, including Biden. Forget the Chinese, forget the "I'm here with my father" you better send us millions, forget the White House guest list full of Hunter overseas business partners, Bobulinski testimony. Funny how the FBI avoided him. And forget no tangable services ever rendered. Burisma, fired prosecutor. Boy, good thing they fired that prosecutor, look how much corruption the next guy took out! Burmisa CEO got back all his seized property, all charges dropped and he was able to return from exile. 

So yep, it's all Russia!! Bad Bad Russia.

At a California fund raiser Biden called Putin (an adversary who has thousands of nukes) a "CRAZY SON OF A BITCH." Probably brought in a few more million with those words.

What are the chances now for peace in Europe with Biden at the helm? 

All of Trump's past antagonistic tweets combined didn't do as much damage, cause the death of more people than those five words just did. 

So f-ing stupid. Self centered, damn the implications, what will get me re-elected words. Same with his actions. Rewarding those who didn't pay for college, punishing those who did the right thing and paid up. And with whose money? Not ours, were in debt $30 trillion. Chinese money I suppose. 

Then Biden says journalists will have to leave the country if Trump is elected because Trump will throw them in jail.

Sorry Joe, Trump doesn't act like you. 

When asked about getting revenge, Trump said; "My revenge will be success."

@StumpTownStu

 I am not watching a youtube clip so para for me if you like...lol I dont get why people put youtube clips in messages, maybe I'm just a lazy boomer after all.

Back to the topic of the thread;

A judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, in an extraordinary dissent to a motion related to the Biden admin rule limiting asylum, scorched the administration for what he called "collusion" with an immigration activist group to put the rule on ice.

The case involves the Biden administration’s "Circumvention of lawful pathways" rule, which the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced last year as Title 42 ended. The rule limits asylum claims, barring those who have crossed illegally and failed to claim asylum in a country through which they have already traveled. 

The administration said it was a key part of its efforts to control the crisis at the border, but it was soon blocked by a lawsuit by a liberal activist group. The administration then appealed that decision. However, both sides filed an appeal to put it into abeyance pending discussions of a settlement. 

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal panel agreed, but Judge Lawrence VanDyke, a former President Trump appointee, dissented from the decision and tore into the administration’s decision to seek a settlement.

"For months, the rule was so important that ‘any interruption’ in its implementation, even for a short period of time, would incapacitate the executive’s border response. This panel made decisions based on those representations. Now, the government implies the rule isn’t so important after all. Indeed, the government is now ‘engaged in discussions’ that could result in the rule going away. What?"

"At the very least it looks like the administration and its frenemies on the other side of this case are colluding to avoid playing their politically fraught game during an election year," he said.

He said that the administration looks like it is "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory — purposely avoiding an ultimate win that would eventually come later this year, whether from this court or from the Supreme Court."

Placing these proceedings in abeyance avoids the possibility of a loss before the Ninth Circuit that could potentially exacerbate the issues at the border in the months leading up to the election — a loss made even more damaging given that it would be meted out by a panel comprised primarily of Democratic appointees, no less," he said. 

The CNN headline practically writes itself: ‘Biden Immigration Enforcement Policy Struck Down by Two Clinton Appointees,’" he quipped.

Up until now, we have been repeatedly assured that the rule is critical to the security of the border. But now, astoundingly, the government seeks to abandon its defense of the rule — or at least put that defense on ice until a more politically convenient time," he said. "Whatever the parties’ real motivations are for seeking to stay this case, they haven’t provided us with a legally sufficient basis for their sudden change of course."

This judge nailed it! 

It's not what is right for the country, it is what is going to get dems re-elected.

@UNIMAN

 I did answer, you implied that Biden is supporting Ukraine and that means what I suggested. I am guessing as none of us are on the military staff making decisions but the objective is to contain the situation as we have for decades, try to obtain stability and safety for our allies, reduce the risk of nukes and any offensive moves towards our allies. Do you need me to say all of the world leaders who are bad to state the obvious? There are many leaders who are abusive killers, Afghanistan alone is all the evidence we need to showcase how horrible Russia and their leaders are, but I dont think Biden has a crush on Putin like Trump does, but I also do not think Biden is stupid enough to consider Russia could be defeated and that the US or NATO could establish ops there, so what other objective would there be? Russia shows through Afghanistan that their MO is to bleed the other side dry over long periods of time and the Ukraine strategy is no different. Maybe the US has not learned about how Russia works and that they will continue methodical regular ops to wear down Ukraine AND bleed the US knowing the long term gain for doing so.

What does "punish Russia" mean, is it silly tariffs like we are seeing that they just navigate around or what does that mean to you?

@UNIMAN

  Dementia Joe tried to blame his screw-up on someone else..... again.....this a.m.

 "So if this matters to you, it matters to your state, tell your members of Congress that are standing in the way — show a little spine," he said. 

 Did this clown forget that HR-2 has been sitting on Schumer's desk for months? What a stupid, stupid man.

https://twitter.com/jimmyfailla/status/1761059468073451745

Biden just released his new campaign song 

@Barbarossa

 Police have charged Jose Antonio Ibarra with malice murder.

Just another day.

@cdog8043

 He is not a citizen of the United States."

Curious, if came through the closed southern border.

@wallstreetcappers

 Allrightly, let me quote you; I do not believe that our objective is to provoke Russia to escalate further, that has never been an objective of any president or military leader like ever?

WWIII comes before Russia allows backyard NATO, just like we went bonkers with the prospect of Cuba being a sat for Russia. (I agree, even an idiot should realize this)

And with that Biden said this two months before the invasion; President Biden said very clearly that the decision on Ukraine's accession to NATO is the decision of the Ukrainian people only, this is a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state," he said. "And it depends on Ukraine and NATO members." 

July 2023; NATO leaders agreed to a package that will ultimately make Ukraine a member of the alliance, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said at a news conference today.

So you don't believe that our objective is to provoke Russia and that WWIII comes before Russia allows backyard NATO, yet.............^^^^^

And Trump has a crush on Putin. Please stop the partisan propaganda nonsense. 

But wall is partisan...why can't you believe that???

I mean he has said it over and over again so it has to be true...why would wally not tell us the truth that his left arm is equal in length and size to his right arm...

I'm not liking where this headed young buck...

@ABooksNightmare

No need for that.

By his own words Biden, the US, and NATO are provoking World War 3. And I agree. 

Uniman... didn't   Biden say a minor incursion is ok?

Many prayers for her family. Maybe some day the lives of innocent Americans will matter more than those of the criminals who break into our country. 

@cdog8043

Biden Migrants crime victims , time to get those counted , and just wait , terrorist attacks in 3..2..1 . , which will end Joe's and the "Border Czar's "career , no matter how their propaganda arm , the main stream media , will try to spin it 

Of course he did....in 2022 it is reported. Another innocent American killed by Joe Biden.

Won't you please take one of these poor asylum seekers into your home?

I took ome in my home...his name is mortgage and he wanted to bring his cousin rent with him