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    Rush51
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 11:58 PM ET #401

    No need to stop the witch hunt now.  Better to let the DEMS proceed and self destruct on their own.  My, how Biden and Pelosi are getting awfully testy these days .  Lol. 

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    No need to stop the witch hunt now.  Better to let the DEMS proceed and self destruct on their own.  My, how Biden and Pelosi are getting awfully testy these days .  Lol. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 12:22 AM ET #402

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    No need to stop the witch hunt now.  Better to let the DEMS proceed and self destruct on their own.  My, how Biden and Pelosi are getting awfully testy these days .  Lol. 


    Yeah, I see that Joe acting like he wanted to beat up a fat Democrat guy in Iowa  and Pelosi pointing her finger at a reporter and telling him ,,, in her best Baltimore mafi voice..."Don't mess with me "................too funny..

    This is getting to be fun ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    No need to stop the witch hunt now.  Better to let the DEMS proceed and self destruct on their own.  My, how Biden and Pelosi are getting awfully testy these days .  Lol. 


    Yeah, I see that Joe acting like he wanted to beat up a fat Democrat guy in Iowa  and Pelosi pointing her finger at a reporter and telling him ,,, in her best Baltimore mafi voice..."Don't mess with me "................too funny..

    This is getting to be fun ...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 1:17 AM ET #403

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At NATO Trump was mocked openly by world leaders, snubbed by British Royalty & sharply criticized for misspeaking about Iran.

    Trump couldn't wait to return home where he is charged with 26 counts of sexual assault, accused of tax fraud and facing impeachment.

    There's nowhere to hide now Donnie! 

    an_beatup 


    When was the last time that POTUS is the laughing stock in the international stage? Probably it did not happen.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At NATO Trump was mocked openly by world leaders, snubbed by British Royalty & sharply criticized for misspeaking about Iran.

    Trump couldn't wait to return home where he is charged with 26 counts of sexual assault, accused of tax fraud and facing impeachment.

    There's nowhere to hide now Donnie! 

    an_beatup 


    When was the last time that POTUS is the laughing stock in the international stage? Probably it did not happen.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 1:28 AM ET #404

    Laughing stock to who ? Trudeau, Macron and Merkel ?  Hardly a group of renowned leaders  anyone should look up to... except to,  well ,... Socialists.  

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    Laughing stock to who ? Trudeau, Macron and Merkel ?  Hardly a group of renowned leaders  anyone should look up to... except to,  well ,... Socialists.  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 1:44 AM ET #405

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    When was the last time that POTUS is the laughing stock in the international stage? Probably it did not happen.  

    2009 to 2016 the spinless Obama years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    When was the last time that POTUS is the laughing stock in the international stage? Probably it did not happen.  

    2009 to 2016 the spinless Obama years...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 1:46 AM ET #406

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    No need to stop the witch hunt now.  Better to let the DEMS proceed and self destruct on their own.  My, how Biden and Pelosi are getting awfully testy these days .  Lol. 
    Yeah, I see that Joe acting like he wanted to beat up a fat Democrat guy in Iowa  and Pelosi pointing her finger at a reporter and telling him ,,, in her best Baltimore mafi voice..."Don't mess with me "................too funny..This is getting to be fun ...

    For sure 'Slim ... I'm sure Pelosi is having regrets for selling her soul to the 4 freshman reps,  Better known as the Squad...

    She's knows this whole impeachment trial has been a circus sideshow 

    Time to break out the popcorn  ! an_popcorn

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    No need to stop the witch hunt now.  Better to let the DEMS proceed and self destruct on their own.  My, how Biden and Pelosi are getting awfully testy these days .  Lol. 
    Yeah, I see that Joe acting like he wanted to beat up a fat Democrat guy in Iowa  and Pelosi pointing her finger at a reporter and telling him ,,, in her best Baltimore mafi voice..."Don't mess with me "................too funny..This is getting to be fun ...

    For sure 'Slim ... I'm sure Pelosi is having regrets for selling her soul to the 4 freshman reps,  Better known as the Squad...

    She's knows this whole impeachment trial has been a circus sideshow 

    Time to break out the popcorn  ! an_popcorn

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 7:38 AM ET #407

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:



    The Bill means hurting "small" amount of Americans than helping. 6% seems minuscule, but that represents ~20 million Americans.  

    According to the most recent tax data, 138.3 million taxpayers reported earning approximately $9.03 trillion in adjusted gross income and paying $1.23 trillion in federal income tax. There are approximately 245.3 million adults in the Unites States.

    Bad numbers skew your 'small' Americans number.  Adults are the ones paying taxes -- and only 55% of them, So, really ~ 8 million or so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:



    The Bill means hurting "small" amount of Americans than helping. 6% seems minuscule, but that represents ~20 million Americans.  

    According to the most recent tax data, 138.3 million taxpayers reported earning approximately $9.03 trillion in adjusted gross income and paying $1.23 trillion in federal income tax. There are approximately 245.3 million adults in the Unites States.

    Bad numbers skew your 'small' Americans number.  Adults are the ones paying taxes -- and only 55% of them, So, really ~ 8 million or so.



     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 7:43 AM ET #408

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The Tax Policy Center says about 6 percent of Americans saw their taxes rise as a result of the bill.

     

    The other issue with it is it that this does not delve into it well enough. 

    Look at the tables from the year before and the year after the new rates were implemented.  Quite obviously, they all went down.  The most obvious point missing is that a lot of people go up and down in brackets.  This most likely means a large majority of the 'small" number went up in brackets -- and that is also a good thing!

    Most folks would be willing to pay more in taxes -- if it meant they had earned more than the year before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    The Tax Policy Center says about 6 percent of Americans saw their taxes rise as a result of the bill.

     

    The other issue with it is it that this does not delve into it well enough. 

    Look at the tables from the year before and the year after the new rates were implemented.  Quite obviously, they all went down.  The most obvious point missing is that a lot of people go up and down in brackets.  This most likely means a large majority of the 'small" number went up in brackets -- and that is also a good thing!

    Most folks would be willing to pay more in taxes -- if it meant they had earned more than the year before.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 7:54 AM ET #409

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Incorrect. 

    Trump's tax cut was a disaster for some Gold Star families, but it's a symptom of a larger problem


    https://taskandpurpose.com/trump-tax-cut-widows

    Sure, Trump and GOP's tax cut bill does help rich people and large cooperations but not all of Americans, including many low income families. 

    Even the Liberal bastion Times had to admit this.  Most folks got a cut -- they just mostly got the difference through the year and, consequently, spent it like they do with any extra money they get.

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/joseph-vazquez/2019/11/21/ny-times-admits-left-would-tax-high-income-americans-not

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/the_emtimesem_confesses

    _most_taxpayers_got_a_tax_cut_under_trump.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Incorrect. 

    Trump's tax cut was a disaster for some Gold Star families, but it's a symptom of a larger problem


    https://taskandpurpose.com/trump-tax-cut-widows

    Sure, Trump and GOP's tax cut bill does help rich people and large cooperations but not all of Americans, including many low income families. 

    Even the Liberal bastion Times had to admit this.  Most folks got a cut -- they just mostly got the difference through the year and, consequently, spent it like they do with any extra money they get.

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/joseph-vazquez/2019/11/21/ny-times-admits-left-would-tax-high-income-americans-not

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/the_emtimesem_confesses

    _most_taxpayers_got_a_tax_cut_under_trump.html

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 12:22 PM ET #410

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    According to the most recent tax data, 138.3 million taxpayers reported earning approximately $9.03 trillion in adjusted gross income and paying $1.23 trillion in federal income tax. There are approximately 245.3 million adults in the Unites States.

    Bad numbers skew your 'small' Americans number.  Adults are the ones paying taxes -- and only 55% of them, So, really ~ 8 million or so.




    I will yield that ~8 million people paid more tax in 2018 than in 2017, but it still nullifies that notion of all Americans got tax cut by the Trump and GOP's Tax Cut Bill by the other poster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    According to the most recent tax data, 138.3 million taxpayers reported earning approximately $9.03 trillion in adjusted gross income and paying $1.23 trillion in federal income tax. There are approximately 245.3 million adults in the Unites States.

    Bad numbers skew your 'small' Americans number.  Adults are the ones paying taxes -- and only 55% of them, So, really ~ 8 million or so.




    I will yield that ~8 million people paid more tax in 2018 than in 2017, but it still nullifies that notion of all Americans got tax cut by the Trump and GOP's Tax Cut Bill by the other poster.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 1:21 PM ET #411

    I think the overall point is: if you were to have made the exact same as the year before -- you would, by and large, have paid less in taxes.  Pretty sure that was the point that was trying to be made.

    Very few exceptions.  People that use the exceptions are just being disingenuous.  To me that is simply silly when the numbers do not lie.

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    I think the overall point is: if you were to have made the exact same as the year before -- you would, by and large, have paid less in taxes.  Pretty sure that was the point that was trying to be made.

    Very few exceptions.  People that use the exceptions are just being disingenuous.  To me that is simply silly when the numbers do not lie.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 8:45 PM ET #412

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    2009 to 2016 the spinless Obama years...

    Mr. Donald J Trump 'spins' more than Obama did? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    2009 to 2016 the spinless Obama years...

    Mr. Donald J Trump 'spins' more than Obama did? 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 8:57 PM ET #413

    Here is good news today for Mr. Donald J Trump,

    U.S. Justice Ginsburg puts temporary hold on Trump financial records dispute--Reuters 
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    Here is good news today for Mr. Donald J Trump,

    U.S. Justice Ginsburg puts temporary hold on Trump financial records dispute--Reuters 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 9:07 PM ET #414

    More than 500 legal scholars signed on to a letter published Friday accusing President Donald Trump of having "engaged in impeachable conduct" in his dealings in Ukraine. cnn

    Will the GOP find 500 to say different?

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    More than 500 legal scholars signed on to a letter published Friday accusing President Donald Trump of having "engaged in impeachable conduct" in his dealings in Ukraine. cnn

    Will the GOP find 500 to say different?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2019 - 11:04 PM ET #415

    500...is that all?  Just 500 signatories..?

    Two years ago more than 15,000 scientists from 184 countries signed a letter warning about the escalating dangers of climate change....
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    500...is that all?  Just 500 signatories..?

    Two years ago more than 15,000 scientists from 184 countries signed a letter warning about the escalating dangers of climate change....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2019 - 5:55 PM ET #416

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    I think the overall point is: if you were to have made the exact same as the year before -- you would, by and large, have paid less in taxes.  Pretty sure that was the point that was trying to be made. Very few exceptions.  People that use the exceptions are just being disingenuous.  To me that is simply silly when the numbers do not lie.

     

    Thank you. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    I think the overall point is: if you were to have made the exact same as the year before -- you would, by and large, have paid less in taxes.  Pretty sure that was the point that was trying to be made. Very few exceptions.  People that use the exceptions are just being disingenuous.  To me that is simply silly when the numbers do not lie.

     

    Thank you. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2019 - 12:57 PM ET #417

    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done."

    Wut? Wut? Wut?

    Nepotism & narcissism are running the country.

    Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet?

    Over 45 Niners/Saints

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    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done."

    Wut? Wut? Wut?

    Nepotism & narcissism are running the country.

    Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet?

    Over 45 Niners/Saints

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done." Wut? Wut? Wut? Nepotism & narcissism are running the country. Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet? Over 45 Niners/Saints
    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done." Wut? Wut? Wut? Nepotism & narcissism are running the country. Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet? Over 45 Niners/Saints

    This winner went Over 45 with 6 minutes still left in the 1st half.

    an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done." Wut? Wut? Wut? Nepotism & narcissism are running the country. Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet? Over 45 Niners/Saints
    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done." Wut? Wut? Wut? Nepotism & narcissism are running the country. Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet? Over 45 Niners/Saints

    This winner went Over 45 with 6 minutes still left in the 1st half.

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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2019 - 8:18 PM ET #419

    Did Trump really earn a degree from Wharton?

    Penn's Director of Operations says Trump received a BS in Real Estate in 1968.

    Sounds peculiar because Wharton didn't offer that degree until 1985. 

    an_beatup

     

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    Did Trump really earn a degree from Wharton?

    Penn's Director of Operations says Trump received a BS in Real Estate in 1968.

    Sounds peculiar because Wharton didn't offer that degree until 1985. 

    an_beatup

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done."

    Wut? Wut? Wut?

    Nepotism & narcissism are running the country.

    Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet?

    Over 45 Niners/Saints


    Never a doubt. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    At the Israeli American Council meeting in Florida, Trump made a comment about Middle East peace saying " If Jared Kushner can't do it, it can't be done."

    Wut? Wut? Wut?

    Nepotism & narcissism are running the country.

    Wait, did Jared get his security clearance yet?

    Over 45 Niners/Saints


    Never a doubt. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did Trump really earn a degree from Wharton?

    Penn's Director of Operations says Trump received a BS in Real Estate in 1968.

    Sounds peculiar because Wharton didn't offer that degree until 1985. 

    an_beatup

     


    Doesn't matter to his base if Mr. Donald J Trump received a degree from Wharton or not. He dodged 5 military drafts in the Vietnam War era but many vets still support and voted for him. Political ideology will certainly uphold over logic and rational in people.     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did Trump really earn a degree from Wharton?

    Penn's Director of Operations says Trump received a BS in Real Estate in 1968.

    Sounds peculiar because Wharton didn't offer that degree until 1985. 

    an_beatup

     


    Doesn't matter to his base if Mr. Donald J Trump received a degree from Wharton or not. He dodged 5 military drafts in the Vietnam War era but many vets still support and voted for him. Political ideology will certainly uphold over logic and rational in people.     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2019 - 1:55 AM ET #422

    Draft dodger or not, vets and plenty of others like him because he stands up for America's interests.  How refreshing,  compared to the Global Apologist named O'bama.

     

     

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    Draft dodger or not, vets and plenty of others like him because he stands up for America's interests.  How refreshing,  compared to the Global Apologist named O'bama.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Draft dodger or not, vets and plenty of others like him because he stands up for America's interests.  How refreshing,  compared to the Global Apologist named O'bama.

     

     


    I'm not so sure that Mr. Donald J Trump stands up for America's interests in dealing with the Ukraine military aid. Many current or ex US officials have testified that Pres. Trump stands up for his own interests ahead of America's.

    source,

    Trump–Ukraine scandal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Draft dodger or not, vets and plenty of others like him because he stands up for America's interests.  How refreshing,  compared to the Global Apologist named O'bama.

     

     


    I'm not so sure that Mr. Donald J Trump stands up for America's interests in dealing with the Ukraine military aid. Many current or ex US officials have testified that Pres. Trump stands up for his own interests ahead of America's.

    source,

    Trump–Ukraine scandal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2019 - 12:52 PM ET #424

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    I'm not so sure that Mr. Donald J Trump stands up for America's interests in dealing with the Ukraine military aid. Many current or ex US officials have testified that Pres. Trump stands up for his own interests ahead of America's.

    source,

    Trump–Ukraine scandal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal


    Let's get real here, Europa.....  you mean the same Donald Trump that sent anti-missile and other military aid to the Ukrainians...  This,  compared to our prior snowflake president that provided.......... blankets.  Yes, blankets as assistance to the Ukrainians... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    I'm not so sure that Mr. Donald J Trump stands up for America's interests in dealing with the Ukraine military aid. Many current or ex US officials have testified that Pres. Trump stands up for his own interests ahead of America's.

    source,

    Trump–Ukraine scandal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal


    Let's get real here, Europa.....  you mean the same Donald Trump that sent anti-missile and other military aid to the Ukrainians...  This,  compared to our prior snowflake president that provided.......... blankets.  Yes, blankets as assistance to the Ukrainians... 

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2019 - 1:04 PM ET #425

    Funny, but I didn't see the "snowflake"  referenced anywhere in the Wikipedia post. lol.  Also, I didn't see any mention in the link of Hunter Biden serving on the board of Burisma, a gas/oil Ukrainanian company.  Ukraine is listed as one of the most corrupt nations on earth, so how was it that Hunter got to serve on a board, ...with no oil/gas business experience ?  Also, didn't Hunter get kicked out of  the service because he was a drunk ? 

    Yeah, no conflict of interest here.. Quid pro Joe got the federal prosecutor in Ukraine fired.. even boasting about it on TV.  So, what are we investigating Trump for ?  For doing his job, and getting the Ukrainians to do theirs in the Hunter Biden fiasco ?

    Imagine the conflict of interest with Ukraine if Biden were to be elected president . 

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    Funny, but I didn't see the "snowflake"  referenced anywhere in the Wikipedia post. lol.  Also, I didn't see any mention in the link of Hunter Biden serving on the board of Burisma, a gas/oil Ukrainanian company.  Ukraine is listed as one of the most corrupt nations on earth, so how was it that Hunter got to serve on a board, ...with no oil/gas business experience ?  Also, didn't Hunter get kicked out of  the service because he was a drunk ? 

    Yeah, no conflict of interest here.. Quid pro Joe got the federal prosecutor in Ukraine fired.. even boasting about it on TV.  So, what are we investigating Trump for ?  For doing his job, and getting the Ukrainians to do theirs in the Hunter Biden fiasco ?

    Imagine the conflict of interest with Ukraine if Biden were to be elected president . 

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