@Midnight1 Quote :Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK Peep! The Trump administration labeling migrants as a Measles risk. The Trump administration is considering a move to repel asylum seekers at the southern border on the basis that they might bring measles or tuberculosis infections with them into the U.S., .
Measles cases are increasing due to declining vaccination rates. In the US, the majority of people who get measles are unvaccinated. International travellers are more likely to spread measles than migrants from South America where measles have been been eliminated as an endemic disease.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
@Midnight1 Quote :Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK Peep! The Trump administration labeling migrants as a Measles risk. The Trump administration is considering a move to repel asylum seekers at the southern border on the basis that they might bring measles or tuberculosis infections with them into the U.S., .
Measles cases are increasing due to declining vaccination rates. In the US, the majority of people who get measles are unvaccinated. International travellers are more likely to spread measles than migrants from South America where measles have been been eliminated as an endemic disease.
Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK This isn't some "chicken little" bullshit. It's happening right before our eyes. IMO, yes it is "CLB". Don't see measles "doubling daily". The State of Texas has responded and is investigating. Just like the State of Washington has done in 2019 and I believe 2022. https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/measles-outbreak-feb-14-2025
Well you are mistaken.
It doubled from 24 to 48 cases this past week.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK This isn't some "chicken little" bullshit. It's happening right before our eyes. IMO, yes it is "CLB". Don't see measles "doubling daily". The State of Texas has responded and is investigating. Just like the State of Washington has done in 2019 and I believe 2022. https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/measles-outbreak-feb-14-2025
TB, polio, measles, etc., etc. Border states have been seeing 'elsewhere' diseases for years and years after large surges. Then sanctuary cities see them. Then you couple all of that with the idiotic Wuhan policies that forced folks into lockdowns. This caused a huge drop in younger kids missing their shots. This was a concern at the time and pointed out as a real possibility a couple of years ago. Another great example of 'unintended consequences' from Leftist policies.
This measles outbreak is due to unvaccinated children in a red state.
Your attempt to hang this albatross around the necks of those on the left is bogus.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
TB, polio, measles, etc., etc. Border states have been seeing 'elsewhere' diseases for years and years after large surges. Then sanctuary cities see them. Then you couple all of that with the idiotic Wuhan policies that forced folks into lockdowns. This caused a huge drop in younger kids missing their shots. This was a concern at the time and pointed out as a real possibility a couple of years ago. Another great example of 'unintended consequences' from Leftist policies.
This measles outbreak is due to unvaccinated children in a red state.
Your attempt to hang this albatross around the necks of those on the left is bogus.
@Midnight1 Quote :Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK Peep! The Trump administration labeling migrants as a Measles risk. The Trump administration is considering a move to repel asylum seekers at the southern border on the basis that they might bring measles or tuberculosis infections with them into the U.S., current and former officials said...
Yea, they might. Just as any American travelling abroad can do just the same.
Well of course once again, you don't come in here with receipts as the kids say.
The Donald will label migrants with anything that will resonate with his MAGA deplorables.
Gobble gobble
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
@Midnight1 Quote :Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK Peep! The Trump administration labeling migrants as a Measles risk. The Trump administration is considering a move to repel asylum seekers at the southern border on the basis that they might bring measles or tuberculosis infections with them into the U.S., current and former officials said...
Yea, they might. Just as any American travelling abroad can do just the same.
Well of course once again, you don't come in here with receipts as the kids say.
The Donald will label migrants with anything that will resonate with his MAGA deplorables.
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: TB, polio, measles, etc., etc. Border states have been seeing 'elsewhere' diseases for years and years after large surges. Then sanctuary cities see them. Then you couple all of that with the idiotic Wuhan policies that forced folks into lockdowns. This caused a huge drop in younger kids missing their shots. This was a concern at the time and pointed out as a real possibility a couple of years ago. Another great example of 'unintended consequences' from Leftist policies. This measles outbreak is due to unvaccinated children in a red state. Your attempt to hang this albatross around the necks of those on the left is bogus.
Correct, that it is now spreading in them. But it got started from someone coming in with it and spreading it to them.
But, yes, the Left are tacitly—or openly—okaying the illegals entering with it. The Left also were the ones that installed the lockdowns and, by default, exacerbated the children not getting their shots. So, it is what it is at this point. Hopefully, it is a learning experience.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: TB, polio, measles, etc., etc. Border states have been seeing 'elsewhere' diseases for years and years after large surges. Then sanctuary cities see them. Then you couple all of that with the idiotic Wuhan policies that forced folks into lockdowns. This caused a huge drop in younger kids missing their shots. This was a concern at the time and pointed out as a real possibility a couple of years ago. Another great example of 'unintended consequences' from Leftist policies. This measles outbreak is due to unvaccinated children in a red state. Your attempt to hang this albatross around the necks of those on the left is bogus.
Correct, that it is now spreading in them. But it got started from someone coming in with it and spreading it to them.
But, yes, the Left are tacitly—or openly—okaying the illegals entering with it. The Left also were the ones that installed the lockdowns and, by default, exacerbated the children not getting their shots. So, it is what it is at this point. Hopefully, it is a learning experience.
@Midnight1 Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: TB, polio, measles, etc., etc. Border states have been seeing 'elsewhere' diseases for years and years after large surges. Then sanctuary cities see them. Then you couple all of that with the idiotic Wuhan policies that forced folks into lockdowns. This caused a huge drop in younger kids missing their shots. This was a concern at the time and pointed out as a real possibility a couple of years ago. Another great example of 'unintended consequences' from Leftist policies. This measles outbreak is due to unvaccinated children in a red state. Your attempt to hang this albatross around the necks of those on the left is bogus. Correct, that it is now spreading in them. But it got started from someone coming in with it and spreading it to them. But, yes, the Left are tacitly—or openly—okaying the illegals entering with it. The Left also were the ones that installed the lockdowns and, by default, exacerbated the children not getting their shots. So, it is what it is at this point. Hopefully, it is a learning experience.
As you can imagine, I don't agree.
Of course someone or something came in with it. It's anyone's guess whether it's a migrant, a tourist or an American citizen as the culprit.
Parents are responsible to make sure they get their shots. Not the Schools, not the Government.
The parents...
And I would venture a guess that most in this forum got their shots because of their parents.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@Midnight1 Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: TB, polio, measles, etc., etc. Border states have been seeing 'elsewhere' diseases for years and years after large surges. Then sanctuary cities see them. Then you couple all of that with the idiotic Wuhan policies that forced folks into lockdowns. This caused a huge drop in younger kids missing their shots. This was a concern at the time and pointed out as a real possibility a couple of years ago. Another great example of 'unintended consequences' from Leftist policies. This measles outbreak is due to unvaccinated children in a red state. Your attempt to hang this albatross around the necks of those on the left is bogus. Correct, that it is now spreading in them. But it got started from someone coming in with it and spreading it to them. But, yes, the Left are tacitly—or openly—okaying the illegals entering with it. The Left also were the ones that installed the lockdowns and, by default, exacerbated the children not getting their shots. So, it is what it is at this point. Hopefully, it is a learning experience.
As you can imagine, I don't agree.
Of course someone or something came in with it. It's anyone's guess whether it's a migrant, a tourist or an American citizen as the culprit.
Parents are responsible to make sure they get their shots. Not the Schools, not the Government.
The parents...
And I would venture a guess that most in this forum got their shots because of their parents.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK This isn't some "chicken little" bullshit. It's happening right before our eyes. IMO, yes it is "CLB". Don't see measles "doubling daily". The State of Texas has responded and is investigating. Just like the State of Washington has done in 2019 and I believe 2022. https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/measles-outbreak-feb-14-2025 Well you are mistaken. It doubled from 24 to 48 cases this past week.
You are misleading and inaccurate. Your post clearly says "doubling daily" not "this week" that you now fall back on.
Should we not expect 96 cases today, 192 tomorrow if doubling daily were true? That would be doubling daily.
Not looking for a pissin match, just calling out what I believe are over exagerations and falsehoods.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK This isn't some "chicken little" bullshit. It's happening right before our eyes. IMO, yes it is "CLB". Don't see measles "doubling daily". The State of Texas has responded and is investigating. Just like the State of Washington has done in 2019 and I believe 2022. https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/measles-outbreak-feb-14-2025 Well you are mistaken. It doubled from 24 to 48 cases this past week.
You are misleading and inaccurate. Your post clearly says "doubling daily" not "this week" that you now fall back on.
Should we not expect 96 cases today, 192 tomorrow if doubling daily were true? That would be doubling daily.
Not looking for a pissin match, just calling out what I believe are over exagerations and falsehoods.
People actually think DOGE has identified waste, fraud and abuse in 5 days.
What they are doing is gutting programs they don't like according to Project 2025. Just browse through this project & similarities with the happenings over the last 4 weeks will be clear as to the priorities.
They haven't done any analysis and don't even know the functions of the departments they are cutting. Now they're scrambling to find them so they can report back to work.
People don't know do I go to work? Do I call somebody; if so, who? No one is answering the phones. Should I open this email? Should I go to work & have a "slip & fall" in the lobby? (I made that one up)
Life is stressful enough for most Americans & we don't need the government fucking around with thousands wondering if they have a job or not.
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PEOPLE DON'T NEED THE STRESS
People actually think DOGE has identified waste, fraud and abuse in 5 days.
What they are doing is gutting programs they don't like according to Project 2025. Just browse through this project & similarities with the happenings over the last 4 weeks will be clear as to the priorities.
They haven't done any analysis and don't even know the functions of the departments they are cutting. Now they're scrambling to find them so they can report back to work.
People don't know do I go to work? Do I call somebody; if so, who? No one is answering the phones. Should I open this email? Should I go to work & have a "slip & fall" in the lobby? (I made that one up)
Life is stressful enough for most Americans & we don't need the government fucking around with thousands wondering if they have a job or not.
[Quote: Originally Posted by thirdperson]Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: @Midnight1 Quote :Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK Peep! The Trump administration labeling migrants as a Measles risk. The Trump administration is considering a move to repel asylum seekers at the southern border on the basis that they might bring measles or tuberculosis infections with them into the U.S., . Measles cases are increasing due to declining vaccination rates. In the US, the majority of people who get measles are unvaccinated. International travellers are more likely to spread measles than migrants from South America where measles have been been eliminated as an endemic disease.[/Quote]
From The National Institute of Health, NIH;
2024; Several South American countries experienced major measles outbreaks, with Brazil having the highest peak of 20,001 cases in 2019, followed by Venezuela with 712 cases in 2017 and 548 in 2018. Colombia also had a surge of 244 cases in 2019. Coverages of the first dose of measles vaccine were generally good in the region, with most countries maintaining rates above 80% and often above 90%. However, there have been some exceptions such as Venezuela, which has had MCV1 coverages below 70% in several years. On the other hand, coverages of the second dose have been more variable and often falling short of the recommended threshold of 95%. Countries such as Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela had MCV2 coverages below 80% in several years, potentially contributing to the observed outbreaks.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by thirdperson]Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: @Midnight1 Quote :Measles is spreading & doubling each day in Texas & not a peep out of the administration, specifically RFK Peep! The Trump administration labeling migrants as a Measles risk. The Trump administration is considering a move to repel asylum seekers at the southern border on the basis that they might bring measles or tuberculosis infections with them into the U.S., . Measles cases are increasing due to declining vaccination rates. In the US, the majority of people who get measles are unvaccinated. International travellers are more likely to spread measles than migrants from South America where measles have been been eliminated as an endemic disease.[/Quote]
From The National Institute of Health, NIH;
2024; Several South American countries experienced major measles outbreaks, with Brazil having the highest peak of 20,001 cases in 2019, followed by Venezuela with 712 cases in 2017 and 548 in 2018. Colombia also had a surge of 244 cases in 2019. Coverages of the first dose of measles vaccine were generally good in the region, with most countries maintaining rates above 80% and often above 90%. However, there have been some exceptions such as Venezuela, which has had MCV1 coverages below 70% in several years. On the other hand, coverages of the second dose have been more variable and often falling short of the recommended threshold of 95%. Countries such as Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela had MCV2 coverages below 80% in several years, potentially contributing to the observed outbreaks.
Of course someone or something came in with it. It's anyone's guess whether it's a migrant, a tourist or an American citizen as the culprit.
Both happen. But the border states have a much bigger problem than a traveler from abroad. Just from sheer numbers. Then the sanctuary cities like Chicago will see an increase.
Parents are responsible to make sure they get their shots. Not the Schools, not the Government.
Correct. But remember this was brought up during the lockdowns how people were not allowed to go to the doctor for other things or were too leery, etc. This was a big concern back then.
But you need 95%+ vaccinated rate with measles. Measles will go around a corner and through a tunnel and over a mountain to get you --it is very infectious.
So, that is why it is considered an 'other places' disease. So, a traveler from the USA (very likely vaccinated) is far less likely to go get it and bring it back than an unvaccinated person is to bring it in.
Remember during the Pandemic they were not even being screened for Wuhan at the time. So, for sure they were not checked for measles vaccines.
But this is not new. This has been happening in some form after a mass immigration event. TB, flus, measles, polio, even bedbugs have been a concern.
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@Midnight1
Of course someone or something came in with it. It's anyone's guess whether it's a migrant, a tourist or an American citizen as the culprit.
Both happen. But the border states have a much bigger problem than a traveler from abroad. Just from sheer numbers. Then the sanctuary cities like Chicago will see an increase.
Parents are responsible to make sure they get their shots. Not the Schools, not the Government.
Correct. But remember this was brought up during the lockdowns how people were not allowed to go to the doctor for other things or were too leery, etc. This was a big concern back then.
But you need 95%+ vaccinated rate with measles. Measles will go around a corner and through a tunnel and over a mountain to get you --it is very infectious.
So, that is why it is considered an 'other places' disease. So, a traveler from the USA (very likely vaccinated) is far less likely to go get it and bring it back than an unvaccinated person is to bring it in.
Remember during the Pandemic they were not even being screened for Wuhan at the time. So, for sure they were not checked for measles vaccines.
But this is not new. This has been happening in some form after a mass immigration event. TB, flus, measles, polio, even bedbugs have been a concern.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THE FLOODS IN West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky & Arkansas In this new Administration, does FEMA work on weekends? https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20250216/president-donald-j-trump-approves-emergency-declaration-kentucky
Need to shut that whole department down as well. Let the states handle their disasters.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THE FLOODS IN West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky & Arkansas In this new Administration, does FEMA work on weekends? https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20250216/president-donald-j-trump-approves-emergency-declaration-kentucky
Need to shut that whole department down as well. Let the states handle their disasters.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THE FLOODS IN West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky & Arkansas In this new Administration, does FEMA work on weekends? https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20250216/president-donald-j-trump-approves-emergency-declaration-kentucky
Look what he did to Georgia...
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, who publicly backed the Donald for “business reasons,” just got a harsh lesson in what it actually means to do business with the Donald. He got completely screwed over.
Let me break this down for you. Back in 2024, Kemp said that even though he wasn’t Trump’s biggest fan personally, he preferred his policies over those of Vice President Kamala Harris. “It’s a business decision,” he told a Republican audience.
And now?
His business partner, the Donald has decided to gut FEMA and deny Georgia the critical disaster aid that President Biden had previously approved for hurricane recovery. That’s right, Kemp begged for an extension of FEMA assistance for cleanup efforts after Hurricane Helene, and the Donald's FEMA basically told him to go pound sand.
Let me remind you that Biden had immediately stepped in after Hurricane Helene, ensuring Georgia had the federal support it needed. But the moment the Donald got his hands on FEMA, he made it a priority to cut off aid to a state whose governor helped him win in 2024.
This is classic the Donald —vindictive, incompetent, and eager to punish anyone who isn’t groveling at his feet.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THE FLOODS IN West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky & Arkansas In this new Administration, does FEMA work on weekends? https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20250216/president-donald-j-trump-approves-emergency-declaration-kentucky
Look what he did to Georgia...
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, who publicly backed the Donald for “business reasons,” just got a harsh lesson in what it actually means to do business with the Donald. He got completely screwed over.
Let me break this down for you. Back in 2024, Kemp said that even though he wasn’t Trump’s biggest fan personally, he preferred his policies over those of Vice President Kamala Harris. “It’s a business decision,” he told a Republican audience.
And now?
His business partner, the Donald has decided to gut FEMA and deny Georgia the critical disaster aid that President Biden had previously approved for hurricane recovery. That’s right, Kemp begged for an extension of FEMA assistance for cleanup efforts after Hurricane Helene, and the Donald's FEMA basically told him to go pound sand.
Let me remind you that Biden had immediately stepped in after Hurricane Helene, ensuring Georgia had the federal support it needed. But the moment the Donald got his hands on FEMA, he made it a priority to cut off aid to a state whose governor helped him win in 2024.
This is classic the Donald —vindictive, incompetent, and eager to punish anyone who isn’t groveling at his feet.
Earlier today, the Donald on the EU possibly banning food imports from the US: "I don't mind. Let them do it. Let them do it."
Don't look at that shiny thing over there....look right here...
This is a good time to remind everyone that this administration hasn't done anything for anyone.
It has literally only taken away things we've already paid for and fired and sued people. Oh and the quid pro quo with Adams. That's the extent of what they have done.
Kinda nuts don't ya think?.
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ARE THE FARMERS LISTENING TO THIS?
Earlier today, the Donald on the EU possibly banning food imports from the US: "I don't mind. Let them do it. Let them do it."
Don't look at that shiny thing over there....look right here...
This is a good time to remind everyone that this administration hasn't done anything for anyone.
It has literally only taken away things we've already paid for and fired and sued people. Oh and the quid pro quo with Adams. That's the extent of what they have done.
@UNIMAN Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THE FLOODS IN West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky & Arkansas In this new Administration, does FEMA work on weekends? https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20250216/president-donald-j-trump-approves-emergency-declaration-kentucky Need to shut that whole department down as well. Let the states handle their disasters.
That's crazy.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@UNIMAN Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THE FLOODS IN West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky & Arkansas In this new Administration, does FEMA work on weekends? https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20250216/president-donald-j-trump-approves-emergency-declaration-kentucky Need to shut that whole department down as well. Let the states handle their disasters.
PEOPLE DON'T NEED THE STRESS People actually think DOGE has identified waste, fraud and abuse in 5 days. What they are doing is gutting programs they don't like according to Project 2025. Just browse through this project & similarities with the happenings over the last 4 weeks will be clear as to the priorities. They haven't done any analysis and don't even know the functions of the departments they are cutting. Now they're scrambling to find them so they can report back to work. People don't know do I go to work? Do I call somebody; if so, who? No one is answering the phones. Should I open this email? Should I go to work & have a "slip & fall" in the lobby? (I made that one up) Life is stressful enough for most Americans & we don't need the government fucking around with thousands wondering if they have a job or not.
only a fucking fool cult member could believe musk can be auditing all our govt agencies that fast. Musk is just doing what you said above. Hes saying theres fraud and then shutting them down.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
PEOPLE DON'T NEED THE STRESS People actually think DOGE has identified waste, fraud and abuse in 5 days. What they are doing is gutting programs they don't like according to Project 2025. Just browse through this project & similarities with the happenings over the last 4 weeks will be clear as to the priorities. They haven't done any analysis and don't even know the functions of the departments they are cutting. Now they're scrambling to find them so they can report back to work. People don't know do I go to work? Do I call somebody; if so, who? No one is answering the phones. Should I open this email? Should I go to work & have a "slip & fall" in the lobby? (I made that one up) Life is stressful enough for most Americans & we don't need the government fucking around with thousands wondering if they have a job or not.
only a fucking fool cult member could believe musk can be auditing all our govt agencies that fast. Musk is just doing what you said above. Hes saying theres fraud and then shutting them down.
only a fucking fool cult member could believe musk can be auditing all our govt agencies that fast. Musk is just doing what you said above. Hes saying theres fraud and then shutting them down.
Data anomalies don't necessarily mean there is fraud or waste. Waste is in the eye of the beholder and fraud is determined in court of law.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
only a fucking fool cult member could believe musk can be auditing all our govt agencies that fast. Musk is just doing what you said above. Hes saying theres fraud and then shutting them down.
Data anomalies don't necessarily mean there is fraud or waste. Waste is in the eye of the beholder and fraud is determined in court of law.
Musk, Sunday, 3:31 p.m.: “One of the first things Hitler did upon gaining power was apply aggressive censorship.”
Musk, Sunday, 9:15 p.m.: “60 Minutes are the biggest liars in the world! They engaged in deliberate deception to interfere with the last election. They deserve a long prison sentence.”
This started with banning AP reporters from the WH press room & Air Force 1 & now, Musk wants to go after one of the most respected news magazine shows in our country.
Did Musk pass a drug test or what???
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MUSK AND AGGRESSIVE CENSORSHIP POSTS YESTERDAY:
Musk, Sunday, 3:31 p.m.: “One of the first things Hitler did upon gaining power was apply aggressive censorship.”
Musk, Sunday, 9:15 p.m.: “60 Minutes are the biggest liars in the world! They engaged in deliberate deception to interfere with the last election. They deserve a long prison sentence.”
This started with banning AP reporters from the WH press room & Air Force 1 & now, Musk wants to go after one of the most respected news magazine shows in our country.
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