Where were these questions when Obama killed Gaddafi? Biden voted to invade Iraq in 2002. What are your thoughts on that? You have to admit that the anti-war left coming out and protesting now, after being silent for ten years is extremely funny.
You and others seem to have a problem resorting to partisan tactics to reply...so no answers or reality and point fingers at a political party instead.
Where did I ever say I agreed with Biden? I consider Gaddafi to be in a different category than a general from Iran since he was the leader of a country and their location is a bit closer in distance but I dont recall supporting the killing of anyone in the manner than Trump has chosen. But what is the factor used to determine who is deserving? I asked this before...is it religion? Is it that we have business interests and alliances so we look the other way? What made this guy deserving when in reality they are not a direct threat and there are larger targets in Iran anyway.
Gotta love how Trump is also a two faced loser because he criticized this and even less when he was sitting on his fat butt golfing but hey when he is in the actual role he will do that and worse and who the crap cares?
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Where were these questions when Obama killed Gaddafi? Biden voted to invade Iraq in 2002. What are your thoughts on that? You have to admit that the anti-war left coming out and protesting now, after being silent for ten years is extremely funny.
You and others seem to have a problem resorting to partisan tactics to reply...so no answers or reality and point fingers at a political party instead.
Where did I ever say I agreed with Biden? I consider Gaddafi to be in a different category than a general from Iran since he was the leader of a country and their location is a bit closer in distance but I dont recall supporting the killing of anyone in the manner than Trump has chosen. But what is the factor used to determine who is deserving? I asked this before...is it religion? Is it that we have business interests and alliances so we look the other way? What made this guy deserving when in reality they are not a direct threat and there are larger targets in Iran anyway.
Gotta love how Trump is also a two faced loser because he criticized this and even less when he was sitting on his fat butt golfing but hey when he is in the actual role he will do that and worse and who the crap cares?
You and others seem to have a problem resorting to partisan tactics to reply...so no answers or reality and point fingers at a political party instead.
Where did I ever say I agreed with Biden? I consider Gaddafi to be in a different category than a general from Iran since he was the leader of a country and their location is a bit closer in distance but I dont recall supporting the killing of anyone in the manner than Trump has chosen. But what is the factor used to determine who is deserving? I asked this before...is it religion? Is it that we have business interests and alliances so we look the other way? What made this guy deserving when in reality they are not a direct threat and there are larger targets in Iran anyway.
Gotta love how Trump is also a two faced loser because he criticized this and even less when he was sitting on his fat butt golfing but hey when he is in the actual role he will do that and worse and who the crap cares?
Wall ,it's always about the money. Especially when it comes to Iran.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
You and others seem to have a problem resorting to partisan tactics to reply...so no answers or reality and point fingers at a political party instead.
Where did I ever say I agreed with Biden? I consider Gaddafi to be in a different category than a general from Iran since he was the leader of a country and their location is a bit closer in distance but I dont recall supporting the killing of anyone in the manner than Trump has chosen. But what is the factor used to determine who is deserving? I asked this before...is it religion? Is it that we have business interests and alliances so we look the other way? What made this guy deserving when in reality they are not a direct threat and there are larger targets in Iran anyway.
Gotta love how Trump is also a two faced loser because he criticized this and even less when he was sitting on his fat butt golfing but hey when he is in the actual role he will do that and worse and who the crap cares?
Wall ,it's always about the money. Especially when it comes to Iran.
Interesting that Iran’s top generals were listed as terrorists by the US while Obama was president and Obama still sent them billions of cash in a covert drop off.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Interesting that Iran’s top generals were listed as terrorists by the US while Obama was president and Obama still sent them billions of cash in a covert drop off.
Interesting that Iran’s top generals were listed as terrorists by the US while Obama was president and Obama still sent them billions of cash in a covert drop off.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yeah you forgot to mention that he was also considered a terrorist under Bush II. And he also declined to target him for the same reason that Obama didn't target him. Both administrations deemed that the consequences would result in more Americans would be killed than if he was left alone. As for the money it belonged to Iran. It was given back to them as a condition when they signed the nuclear deal . By the way this money was frozen assets from 1979 and was 1.8 billion. We still hold another large sum of Iranian assets estimated at between 30 and 50 billion.Other thoughts: You should really research the things you want to discuss so you don't look like a fool.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Interesting that Iran’s top generals were listed as terrorists by the US while Obama was president and Obama still sent them billions of cash in a covert drop off.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yeah you forgot to mention that he was also considered a terrorist under Bush II. And he also declined to target him for the same reason that Obama didn't target him. Both administrations deemed that the consequences would result in more Americans would be killed than if he was left alone. As for the money it belonged to Iran. It was given back to them as a condition when they signed the nuclear deal . By the way this money was frozen assets from 1979 and was 1.8 billion. We still hold another large sum of Iranian assets estimated at between 30 and 50 billion.Other thoughts: You should really research the things you want to discuss so you don't look like a fool.
So Obama gave $1.8 Billion to a country with a terrorist in charge? Makes sense. Bill Clinton could have killed Bin Laden and passed. How’d that work out?
Not an educated jab there for a variety of reasons. I still to this day do not see how and why we blew trillions and lost millions in that region all under the Bin Laden rationalization. We erroneously went into Iraq initially to appease the Saudis and went back because Bush got his tushy hurt, neither time did we really need to be there...then we put OBL's face as the poster child for all the ills of that region so we go after him. He is gone and was anything really accomplished except for padding the wallets of defense contractors? Is the region better? Are we safer as a country? Was Bin Laden responsible for anything more than regional terrorism?
We draw lines and make rationalizations because political and business interests influence those decisions..not that there really is a reason. And please spare me the 9/11 farcical rationalization because OBL had nothing to do with 9/11,
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
So Obama gave $1.8 Billion to a country with a terrorist in charge? Makes sense. Bill Clinton could have killed Bin Laden and passed. How’d that work out?
Not an educated jab there for a variety of reasons. I still to this day do not see how and why we blew trillions and lost millions in that region all under the Bin Laden rationalization. We erroneously went into Iraq initially to appease the Saudis and went back because Bush got his tushy hurt, neither time did we really need to be there...then we put OBL's face as the poster child for all the ills of that region so we go after him. He is gone and was anything really accomplished except for padding the wallets of defense contractors? Is the region better? Are we safer as a country? Was Bin Laden responsible for anything more than regional terrorism?
We draw lines and make rationalizations because political and business interests influence those decisions..not that there really is a reason. And please spare me the 9/11 farcical rationalization because OBL had nothing to do with 9/11,
Obama campaigned on ending the wars. It’s too bad his campaign promises never came true. Instead of ending two wars, he went on to bomb 7 countries, end 0 wars, and will go down as one of the most hawkish presidents in American history.
Wall, who are you going to vote for? What do you like about their platform?
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Obama campaigned on ending the wars. It’s too bad his campaign promises never came true. Instead of ending two wars, he went on to bomb 7 countries, end 0 wars, and will go down as one of the most hawkish presidents in American history.
Wall, who are you going to vote for? What do you like about their platform?
Obama campaigned on ending the wars. It’s too bad his campaign promises never came true. Instead of ending two wars, he went on to bomb 7 countries, end 0 wars, and will go down as one of the most hawkish presidents in American history. Wall, who are you going to vote for? What do you like about their platform?
Have you noticed me skip past your partisan wedges several times already? You are a Trump fan, well a Repub who will vote for whatever sludge gets through and I am not at this point. I think that is all to say on the subject. So I will pass on that topic for a bit and likely indefinitely.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Obama campaigned on ending the wars. It’s too bad his campaign promises never came true. Instead of ending two wars, he went on to bomb 7 countries, end 0 wars, and will go down as one of the most hawkish presidents in American history. Wall, who are you going to vote for? What do you like about their platform?
Have you noticed me skip past your partisan wedges several times already? You are a Trump fan, well a Repub who will vote for whatever sludge gets through and I am not at this point. I think that is all to say on the subject. So I will pass on that topic for a bit and likely indefinitely.
Joint Chiefs Chair GEN Milley: “That letter is a draft it was a mistake, it was unsigned, it should not have been released…poorly worded, implies withdrawal, that is not what’s happening.”
A mistake? Why is it not stamped as a "draft" as is common? How did the "draft" get sent to the Iraqi government?
FUBAR
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Joint Chiefs Chair GEN Milley: “That letter is a draft it was a mistake, it was unsigned, it should not have been released…poorly worded, implies withdrawal, that is not what’s happening.”
A mistake? Why is it not stamped as a "draft" as is common? How did the "draft" get sent to the Iraqi government?
Anyone who ever doubted that miscommunication could escalate a situation as far as triggering an accidental nuclear war need only to look at the chaos currently on display before a war has even begun.
I can hear Trump now...wait I meant to tweet NOT to nuke Iran.
Governing a country via Twitter is ridiculous & has to stop. It's time for the grownups, if there are any left in Washington, need to take control way from this madman.
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Anyone who ever doubted that miscommunication could escalate a situation as far as triggering an accidental nuclear war need only to look at the chaos currently on display before a war has even begun.
I can hear Trump now...wait I meant to tweet NOT to nuke Iran.
Governing a country via Twitter is ridiculous & has to stop. It's time for the grownups, if there are any left in Washington, need to take control way from this madman.
Biden chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
The Bush White House had a special secure line installed to Biden’s home as they came up with a positive public relations message for the war in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
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“Right wing filtered intelligence”
Reality:
Biden chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
The Bush White House had a special secure line installed to Biden’s home as they came up with a positive public relations message for the war in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
Lack of credibility apparent in Trump administration. Trump threatens to commit war crimes by destroying cultural sites. But secretary of state and defense secretary contradict Trump. Further, Trump wants US troops out of Iraq, but says Iraq would face sanctions for expelling them. Sanctions have a history of failure and could backfire. For examples, North Korea, Russia, Iran and Venezuela. US spent trillions trying to remake the middle east. However Trump's assassination may have undone it all?
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Lack of credibility apparent in Trump administration. Trump threatens to commit war crimes by destroying cultural sites. But secretary of state and defense secretary contradict Trump. Further, Trump wants US troops out of Iraq, but says Iraq would face sanctions for expelling them. Sanctions have a history of failure and could backfire. For examples, North Korea, Russia, Iran and Venezuela. US spent trillions trying to remake the middle east. However Trump's assassination may have undone it all?
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