@StumpTownStu Gains are not the reason for the electoral college difference, as it was noted the popular vote again was not a landslide it was quite close.
My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly?
Were they eating the cats and dogs
were the illegals taking all of the new jobs
is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie.
@wallstreetcappers
We can't say it much better or more accurately.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@StumpTownStu Gains are not the reason for the electoral college difference, as it was noted the popular vote again was not a landslide it was quite close.
My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly?
Were they eating the cats and dogs
were the illegals taking all of the new jobs
is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie.
@StumpTownStu The Tenderloin...omfg Sorry for you seeing how far that Great City S.F.has fallen...Sadly, a Typical example of Democrat liberal city going down THE Schizzhole...Sad but True..step carefully
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Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:
@StumpTownStu The Tenderloin...omfg Sorry for you seeing how far that Great City S.F.has fallen...Sadly, a Typical example of Democrat liberal city going down THE Schizzhole...Sad but True..step carefully
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @StumpTownStu Gains are not the reason for the electoral college difference, as it was noted the popular vote again was not a landslide it was quite close. My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly? Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie. @wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately.
Keep believing that as the world changes around. Talk about a big lie. That is the big lie.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @StumpTownStu Gains are not the reason for the electoral college difference, as it was noted the popular vote again was not a landslide it was quite close. My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly? Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie. @wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately.
Keep believing that as the world changes around. Talk about a big lie. That is the big lie.
@StumpTownStu The Tenderloin...omfg Sorry for you seeing how far that Great City S.F.has fallen...Sadly, a Typical example of Democrat liberal city going down THE Schizzhole...Sad but True..step carefully
It's a second home to me. I grew up in Oakland. I have worked in SF for close to 20 years and have kept a place a place in SF for the last few years.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:
@StumpTownStu The Tenderloin...omfg Sorry for you seeing how far that Great City S.F.has fallen...Sadly, a Typical example of Democrat liberal city going down THE Schizzhole...Sad but True..step carefully
It's a second home to me. I grew up in Oakland. I have worked in SF for close to 20 years and have kept a place a place in SF for the last few years.
My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly?
Were they eating the cats and dogs
were the illegals taking all of the new jobs
is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie.
@wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately.
wsc good to see u agree about all the maga disinformation and exaggerations
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly?
Were they eating the cats and dogs
were the illegals taking all of the new jobs
is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie.
@wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately.
wsc good to see u agree about all the maga disinformation and exaggerations
It's a Great American City that liberals have destroyed with their policies..Remember Kate Steinle gunned down on that pier from an illegal immigrant finding that GUN..terrible liberal policies consequences..
We voted Enough is Enough..Sanctuary Cities AND States are a Thing of the PAST
I'm in Denver and I can't wait until Operation Aurora starts..I Have an apt complex that I'm going to report to Tom Holman once I get back..a rider told me they Stole his truck and all his tools after they broke into his apartment and Stole his keys...This Shit is REAL..sadly
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@StumpTownStu
It's a Great American City that liberals have destroyed with their policies..Remember Kate Steinle gunned down on that pier from an illegal immigrant finding that GUN..terrible liberal policies consequences..
We voted Enough is Enough..Sanctuary Cities AND States are a Thing of the PAST
I'm in Denver and I can't wait until Operation Aurora starts..I Have an apt complex that I'm going to report to Tom Holman once I get back..a rider told me they Stole his truck and all his tools after they broke into his apartment and Stole his keys...This Shit is REAL..sadly
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly? Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie. @wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately. wsc good to see u agree about all the maga disinformation and exaggerations
Liberals live in a fairytale.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly? Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie. @wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately. wsc good to see u agree about all the maga disinformation and exaggerations
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly? Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie.
@wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately.
wsc good to see u agree about all the maga disinformation and exaggerations
And he's correct! Exaggerations to further political rhetoric. Mostly done (but not only) by the radical right, CONVICT worshipping, MAGA cult.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: My comment about drugs and border was that it was and IS an exaggeration meant to forward a political narrative...so credibility is lost how exactly? Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been used so many times nearly every cycle. I more than most here have been witness to the sleezy scheme of blaming all social woes on the border...the GOP use it every single cycle it is a good old whipping tool used to scare voters and bring out the crazies. It works but it is a scheme, it is exaggerated and it is a lie.
@wallstreetcappers We can't say it much better or more accurately.
wsc good to see u agree about all the maga disinformation and exaggerations
And he's correct! Exaggerations to further political rhetoric. Mostly done (but not only) by the radical right, CONVICT worshipping, MAGA cult.
The drugs issue is not new it is not about the border it is about the acceleration of the damage that the drugs being manufactured is increasing. The border has been the way drugs have come into the country for 50 years plus and no wall or barrier is going to stop the border from being the path to this country. If you build a big wall then they will either go under it or over it or through it or use other methods like entry points or air or drones or whatever. The real issue is that citizens are using more and the drugs being circulated are more destructive not that the border is the only path because that is not the real crux of the problem. To me the issue about people living on the streets is that cities in the past would illegally and immorally force the homeless to vacate areas and that has been taken to task and the legalities have been challenged and through our legal system the rights of the homeless have been made more public and so the problem has gotten worse (again). About 30 years ago the city I grew up in and was living in had an image that the streets were clean and that the homeless were not out and sleeping or loitering during the day and people thought it was such a great thing. Well spring forward and it turns out that the mayor and the city council at that time did some pretty underhanded schemes to "clean" the downtown and make that great image at the harm of the homeless, they abused the rights of those people to make the downtown look clean and without the homeless hanging around.
Down here we have gone through a problem of the homeless AND people just scheming that will solicit at stop signs and traffic lights to an extreme level, they pan handle in parking lots and all over the place to the extent that the city council decided to pass ordinances banning the practice and have targeted tent city groups to try and shake out the homeless from camping and living in areas that are of risk to the general population. There is no easy partisan blame for the homeless and the drug problem, there really is no simple legal path that disposes of the elements of society we might not like to see and that cause harm to themselves and risk to the general population because those people have rights AND cities do not have the resources to attempt to tackle the issue as to housing or giving a place for people to be at and not in the general public. Taxpayers do not like to pay for homeless programs and are not in support of trying to improve the plight of those who are deemed as drug users and lazy.
Lastly, as mentioned by me and others I see the vote shift in this election squarely in the demographic that is either racist or sexist and that makes sense to me. The core GOP voters are not going to budge without a massive reason and same goes for the general DNC voter...those bases are pretty stable and not really able to manipulate even with the lies and schemes politicians use. The segments which can be moved are those who have biases and are not the core base. Latin American men are biased against women candidates even more than white men are biased against women candidates AND the latin american voter group is biased against non-caucasian or latin american minorities let alone it being a female to boot. If the DNC candidate were a male I think Trump loses, if the candidate were a Latin American male that vote group would have completely supported that person and a female the numbers would have been strong but not as strong as a male. The vote differential is more about sexism and racism, there is a reason why this country is one of the worst with regard to women political candidates and minorities especially in a national general election.
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@StumpTownStu
The drugs issue is not new it is not about the border it is about the acceleration of the damage that the drugs being manufactured is increasing. The border has been the way drugs have come into the country for 50 years plus and no wall or barrier is going to stop the border from being the path to this country. If you build a big wall then they will either go under it or over it or through it or use other methods like entry points or air or drones or whatever. The real issue is that citizens are using more and the drugs being circulated are more destructive not that the border is the only path because that is not the real crux of the problem. To me the issue about people living on the streets is that cities in the past would illegally and immorally force the homeless to vacate areas and that has been taken to task and the legalities have been challenged and through our legal system the rights of the homeless have been made more public and so the problem has gotten worse (again). About 30 years ago the city I grew up in and was living in had an image that the streets were clean and that the homeless were not out and sleeping or loitering during the day and people thought it was such a great thing. Well spring forward and it turns out that the mayor and the city council at that time did some pretty underhanded schemes to "clean" the downtown and make that great image at the harm of the homeless, they abused the rights of those people to make the downtown look clean and without the homeless hanging around.
Down here we have gone through a problem of the homeless AND people just scheming that will solicit at stop signs and traffic lights to an extreme level, they pan handle in parking lots and all over the place to the extent that the city council decided to pass ordinances banning the practice and have targeted tent city groups to try and shake out the homeless from camping and living in areas that are of risk to the general population. There is no easy partisan blame for the homeless and the drug problem, there really is no simple legal path that disposes of the elements of society we might not like to see and that cause harm to themselves and risk to the general population because those people have rights AND cities do not have the resources to attempt to tackle the issue as to housing or giving a place for people to be at and not in the general public. Taxpayers do not like to pay for homeless programs and are not in support of trying to improve the plight of those who are deemed as drug users and lazy.
Lastly, as mentioned by me and others I see the vote shift in this election squarely in the demographic that is either racist or sexist and that makes sense to me. The core GOP voters are not going to budge without a massive reason and same goes for the general DNC voter...those bases are pretty stable and not really able to manipulate even with the lies and schemes politicians use. The segments which can be moved are those who have biases and are not the core base. Latin American men are biased against women candidates even more than white men are biased against women candidates AND the latin american voter group is biased against non-caucasian or latin american minorities let alone it being a female to boot. If the DNC candidate were a male I think Trump loses, if the candidate were a Latin American male that vote group would have completely supported that person and a female the numbers would have been strong but not as strong as a male. The vote differential is more about sexism and racism, there is a reason why this country is one of the worst with regard to women political candidates and minorities especially in a national general election.
The vote differential is more about sexism and racism, there is a reason why this country is one of the worst with regard to women political candidates and minorities especially in a national general election.
I threw up in my mouth reading this. That is your opinion about the differential. Trumps votes stayed the same while the Democrats went down, substantially. Are you trying to say that racists and sexism voters didn't show up for the democrats this time around? My opinion about the vote differential is fraud. The left can use the differential to try to say the difference is because there was a minority women running because that tugs on the emotional strings and tries to create more of a divide between people.
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@wallstreetcappers
The vote differential is more about sexism and racism, there is a reason why this country is one of the worst with regard to women political candidates and minorities especially in a national general election.
I threw up in my mouth reading this. That is your opinion about the differential. Trumps votes stayed the same while the Democrats went down, substantially. Are you trying to say that racists and sexism voters didn't show up for the democrats this time around? My opinion about the vote differential is fraud. The left can use the differential to try to say the difference is because there was a minority women running because that tugs on the emotional strings and tries to create more of a divide between people.
Latin American men are biased against women candidates even more than white men are biased against women candidates
More nonsense:
But in Latin America, as Mexico’s milestone election showed over the weekend, electing a woman as president has become remarkably routine.
Claudia Sheinbaum, who won Mexico’s election in a landslideagainst another female candidate, Xóchitl Gálvez, joins at least a dozen other women who have served as presidents of Latin American countries since the 1970s.
This growing list includes past leaders of two of Latin America’s largest countries, Dilma Rousseff of Brazil and Cristina Fernández de Kirchner of Argentina, and those in smaller nations like Violeta Chamorro of Nicaragua and Xiomara Castro, the current president of Honduras.
The ascension of women to such heights spotlights how some democracies in Latin America that emerged from the ashes of authoritarian rule have proven exceptionally open to tearing down barriers to political representation.
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Latin American men are biased against women candidates even more than white men are biased against women candidates
More nonsense:
But in Latin America, as Mexico’s milestone election showed over the weekend, electing a woman as president has become remarkably routine.
Claudia Sheinbaum, who won Mexico’s election in a landslideagainst another female candidate, Xóchitl Gálvez, joins at least a dozen other women who have served as presidents of Latin American countries since the 1970s.
This growing list includes past leaders of two of Latin America’s largest countries, Dilma Rousseff of Brazil and Cristina Fernández de Kirchner of Argentina, and those in smaller nations like Violeta Chamorro of Nicaragua and Xiomara Castro, the current president of Honduras.
The ascension of women to such heights spotlights how some democracies in Latin America that emerged from the ashes of authoritarian rule have proven exceptionally open to tearing down barriers to political representation.
Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been
Exaggerations yes. We've gone over the jobs deal in the past and the data was clear in the high proportion of jobs being attributed to government. "illegals taking ALL the new jobs" well no not all so if one says "all" it is an exaggeration. "drugs/crime ALL due to border", again No. Not all. The reasons for that read out like an algebra equation.
The cats & dogs thing same....there was literally one report and video of the woman who killed and was eating a cat getting arrested by local Ohio PD. Of course that was used as the basis for that storyline. The woman was not even a haitian or an immigrant. Again, exaggeration.
"inflation". Yes, that was an easy one for team Trump that was served right up on the platter for taking. We have discussed this many times in the past so you know I'm on the same page as you with regards to that reality.
the "left telling the rules" is a total exaggeration and partisan narrative..
Here is where I disagree. Explain to me how this is an exaggeration when you literally have former Democrats leaving their own political party because the goal posts were moved on the scale of liberal to conservative over the past 8 years. You had current Democrats calling out their own party due to some of these "far left extremist" views that moved further into the mainstream party narratives. The Democrats themselves have described this as not them leaving the party, but the Democratic party leaving them.
This cesspool sub is a perfect example. I can say something critical about Trump and get met with zero hostilities. I state some simple fact to correct someone on some BS gaslighting comment made about Biden/leftist regime narratives and I automatically get called a MAGA loving nazi white supremist fascist. Zero discussion, just skip straight to being the target of the intolerant leftist radicals.
I’ve pointed it out plenty of times, the DNC has their party on lockdown and if you speak out against any of the regime narratives you are excommunicado. Plenty of journalists, politicians and other public figures to use as examples of this. The GOP is and has been much more splintered, one of the reasons for their past failures whether it be mid-terms or POTUS elections.
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@wallstreetcappers
Were they eating the cats and dogs were the illegals taking all of the new jobs is all of the drugs and crime and ills due to the border? No...it was an exaggeration that has been
Exaggerations yes. We've gone over the jobs deal in the past and the data was clear in the high proportion of jobs being attributed to government. "illegals taking ALL the new jobs" well no not all so if one says "all" it is an exaggeration. "drugs/crime ALL due to border", again No. Not all. The reasons for that read out like an algebra equation.
The cats & dogs thing same....there was literally one report and video of the woman who killed and was eating a cat getting arrested by local Ohio PD. Of course that was used as the basis for that storyline. The woman was not even a haitian or an immigrant. Again, exaggeration.
"inflation". Yes, that was an easy one for team Trump that was served right up on the platter for taking. We have discussed this many times in the past so you know I'm on the same page as you with regards to that reality.
the "left telling the rules" is a total exaggeration and partisan narrative..
Here is where I disagree. Explain to me how this is an exaggeration when you literally have former Democrats leaving their own political party because the goal posts were moved on the scale of liberal to conservative over the past 8 years. You had current Democrats calling out their own party due to some of these "far left extremist" views that moved further into the mainstream party narratives. The Democrats themselves have described this as not them leaving the party, but the Democratic party leaving them.
This cesspool sub is a perfect example. I can say something critical about Trump and get met with zero hostilities. I state some simple fact to correct someone on some BS gaslighting comment made about Biden/leftist regime narratives and I automatically get called a MAGA loving nazi white supremist fascist. Zero discussion, just skip straight to being the target of the intolerant leftist radicals.
I’ve pointed it out plenty of times, the DNC has their party on lockdown and if you speak out against any of the regime narratives you are excommunicado. Plenty of journalists, politicians and other public figures to use as examples of this. The GOP is and has been much more splintered, one of the reasons for their past failures whether it be mid-terms or POTUS elections.
Kc... its their way or the highway mindset. If you disagree with them you automatically are thrown in the Maga pool and deemed a nazi , racist, fascist among others. They clearly the the concept and ability of reasoning . I know a lot of democrats who voted for the orange devil because they were tired of the hatred, lies, media collaboration, abuse their party put on them.
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Kc... its their way or the highway mindset. If you disagree with them you automatically are thrown in the Maga pool and deemed a nazi , racist, fascist among others. They clearly the the concept and ability of reasoning . I know a lot of democrats who voted for the orange devil because they were tired of the hatred, lies, media collaboration, abuse their party put on them.
"Currently, 13 out of the 50 state governors are women, more than there have ever been. Of these trailblazers, five are Republicans, and eight are Democrats."
"Currently, 13 out of the 50 state governors are women, more than there have ever been. Of these trailblazers, five are Republicans, and eight are Democrats."
Eight months ago a group of five on CNN were talking about Kamala's very poor VP ratings, voters found her voice and her laugh undesirable, and that she potentially was holding Joe back.
She announces she is running and immediately polls show her leap over Trump. And then she had three months to define herself and her path. She failed.
A very good CFB Forum bettor came in here and said they were betting Hilliary or Michelle would really get the nod. Why? Because it was so hard believing Kamala had a chance.
But now..................it was "lazy", "biased", folks who don't like women and especially women of color.
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Eight months ago a group of five on CNN were talking about Kamala's very poor VP ratings, voters found her voice and her laugh undesirable, and that she potentially was holding Joe back.
She announces she is running and immediately polls show her leap over Trump. And then she had three months to define herself and her path. She failed.
A very good CFB Forum bettor came in here and said they were betting Hilliary or Michelle would really get the nod. Why? Because it was so hard believing Kamala had a chance.
But now..................it was "lazy", "biased", folks who don't like women and especially women of color.
Mr. Sharpie should have been careful when signing everything in front of him. Melania may have slipped a new prenup in that stack & the POS would never have known it.
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Mr. Sharpie should have been careful when signing everything in front of him. Melania may have slipped a new prenup in that stack & the POS would never have known it.
Mr. Sharpie should have been careful when signing everything in front of him. Melania may have slipped a new prenup in that stack & the POS would never have known it.
Wouldn't that be a post-nup? Those eastern europeans are shrewd. I'm sure she took care of all that amd has renegotiated multiple times. This is his longest marriage by far. He's too old to go younger again and she seems to be riding it out. I can't hate on it.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Mr. Sharpie should have been careful when signing everything in front of him. Melania may have slipped a new prenup in that stack & the POS would never have known it.
Wouldn't that be a post-nup? Those eastern europeans are shrewd. I'm sure she took care of all that amd has renegotiated multiple times. This is his longest marriage by far. He's too old to go younger again and she seems to be riding it out. I can't hate on it.
Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @scooby-doos I heard about Muskrat's salute today. I did NAZI that coming. I can show you dozens of pictures of Democrats saluting in the same fashion , starting with Obama nice try though , let’s hope Musk isn’t going to sue CNN , MSNBC for defamation, he would finish them the time of spreading cheap lies with no consequences are over for the MSM I'd love to see them.
Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @scooby-doos I heard about Muskrat's salute today. I did NAZI that coming. I can show you dozens of pictures of Democrats saluting in the same fashion , starting with Obama nice try though , let’s hope Musk isn’t going to sue CNN , MSNBC for defamation, he would finish them the time of spreading cheap lies with no consequences are over for the MSM I'd love to see them.
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