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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:06 PM ET #51

    This was JULY 3RD

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-vacates-key-afghan-base-pullout-target-now-78645560

    WASHINGTON -- Nearly 20 years after invading Afghanistan to oust the Taliban and hunt down al-Qaida, the U.S. military has vacated its biggest airfield in the country, advancing a final withdrawal that the Pentagon says will be completed by the end of August.

    President Joe Biden had instructed the Pentagon to complete the military withdrawal by Sept. 11, the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the United States, but the Pentagon now says it can finish the drawdown a little earlier. In fact, the drawdown is already largely completed and officials had said it could be wrapped up this weekend. But a number of related issues need to be worked out in coming weeks, including a new U.S. military command structure in Kabul and talks with Turkey on an arrangement for maintaining security at the Kabul airport, and so an official end to the pullout will not be announced soon.

     
    “A safe, orderly drawdown enables us to maintain an ongoing diplomatic presence, support the Afghan people and the government, and prevent Afghanistan from once again becoming a safe haven for terrorists that threatens our homeland,” Pentagon press secretary John Kirby said.

    The administration is meanwhile narrowing options for ensuring the safety of thousands of Afghans whose applications for special visas to come to the United States have yet to be approved. The administration has already said it’s willing to evacuate them to third countries pending their visa approvals but has yet to determine where. Officials said Friday that one possibility is to relocate them to neighboring countries in Central Asia where they could be protected from possible retaliation by the Taliban or other groups.

    The White House and State Department have declined to comment on the numbers to be relocated or where they might go, but the foreign ministers of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan were both in Washington this week and the subject of Afghan security was raised in meetings they held with Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.

    Kirby said that Austin on Friday approved a new command structure in Afghanistan to transition the U.S. military mission from warfighting to two new objectives — protecting a continuing U.S. diplomatic presence in Kabul and maintaining liaison with the Afghan military.

     

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    This was JULY 3RD

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-vacates-key-afghan-base-pullout-target-now-78645560

    WASHINGTON -- Nearly 20 years after invading Afghanistan to oust the Taliban and hunt down al-Qaida, the U.S. military has vacated its biggest airfield in the country, advancing a final withdrawal that the Pentagon says will be completed by the end of August.

    President Joe Biden had instructed the Pentagon to complete the military withdrawal by Sept. 11, the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the United States, but the Pentagon now says it can finish the drawdown a little earlier. In fact, the drawdown is already largely completed and officials had said it could be wrapped up this weekend. But a number of related issues need to be worked out in coming weeks, including a new U.S. military command structure in Kabul and talks with Turkey on an arrangement for maintaining security at the Kabul airport, and so an official end to the pullout will not be announced soon.

     
    “A safe, orderly drawdown enables us to maintain an ongoing diplomatic presence, support the Afghan people and the government, and prevent Afghanistan from once again becoming a safe haven for terrorists that threatens our homeland,” Pentagon press secretary John Kirby said.

    The administration is meanwhile narrowing options for ensuring the safety of thousands of Afghans whose applications for special visas to come to the United States have yet to be approved. The administration has already said it’s willing to evacuate them to third countries pending their visa approvals but has yet to determine where. Officials said Friday that one possibility is to relocate them to neighboring countries in Central Asia where they could be protected from possible retaliation by the Taliban or other groups.

    The White House and State Department have declined to comment on the numbers to be relocated or where they might go, but the foreign ministers of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan were both in Washington this week and the subject of Afghan security was raised in meetings they held with Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.

    Kirby said that Austin on Friday approved a new command structure in Afghanistan to transition the U.S. military mission from warfighting to two new objectives — protecting a continuing U.S. diplomatic presence in Kabul and maintaining liaison with the Afghan military.

     

     
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    Austin's plan calls for the top commander in Afghanistan, Army Gen. Scott Miller, to transfer his combat authorities to the Florida-based head of U.S. Central Command, Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, before relinquishing his command this month. Also, a two-star Navy admiral will head a U.S. Embassy-based military office, dubbed U.S. Forces Afghanistan-Forward, to oversee the new mission of providing security for the embassy and its diplomats.

    A satellite military office based in Qatar and headed by a U.S. one-star general will be established to administer U.S. financial support for the Afghan military and police, plus maintenance support provided for Afghan aircraft from outside Afghanistan.

     Kirby said Miller, who already is the longest-serving commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan in the 20 years of warfare, will remain in command for “a couple of weeks” longer but was not more specific. He said Miller will be preparing for and completing the turnover of his duties to McKenzie and also will be traveling inside and beyond Afghanistan.

    Miller met Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Friday and, according to a Dari-language tweet by the presidential palace, the two discussed “continued U.S. assistance and cooperation with Afghanistan, particularly in supporting the defense and security forces.”

    Bagram Airfield has been the epicenter of the war to oust the Taliban and hunt down the al-Qaida perpetrators of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America. At its peak in and around 2012, Bagram Airfield saw more than 100,000 U.S. troops pass through the massive compound barely an hour’s drive north of Kabul.

    Meanwhile, Afghanistan's district administrator for Bagram, Darwaish Raufi, said the American departure was done overnight without any coordination with local officials, and as a result early Friday, dozens of local looters stormed through the unprotected gates before Afghan forces regained control.

    JULY 3RD 

     

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    Austin's plan calls for the top commander in Afghanistan, Army Gen. Scott Miller, to transfer his combat authorities to the Florida-based head of U.S. Central Command, Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, before relinquishing his command this month. Also, a two-star Navy admiral will head a U.S. Embassy-based military office, dubbed U.S. Forces Afghanistan-Forward, to oversee the new mission of providing security for the embassy and its diplomats.

    A satellite military office based in Qatar and headed by a U.S. one-star general will be established to administer U.S. financial support for the Afghan military and police, plus maintenance support provided for Afghan aircraft from outside Afghanistan.

     Kirby said Miller, who already is the longest-serving commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan in the 20 years of warfare, will remain in command for “a couple of weeks” longer but was not more specific. He said Miller will be preparing for and completing the turnover of his duties to McKenzie and also will be traveling inside and beyond Afghanistan.

    Miller met Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Friday and, according to a Dari-language tweet by the presidential palace, the two discussed “continued U.S. assistance and cooperation with Afghanistan, particularly in supporting the defense and security forces.”

    Bagram Airfield has been the epicenter of the war to oust the Taliban and hunt down the al-Qaida perpetrators of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America. At its peak in and around 2012, Bagram Airfield saw more than 100,000 U.S. troops pass through the massive compound barely an hour’s drive north of Kabul.

    Meanwhile, Afghanistan's district administrator for Bagram, Darwaish Raufi, said the American departure was done overnight without any coordination with local officials, and as a result early Friday, dozens of local looters stormed through the unprotected gates before Afghan forces regained control.

    JULY 3RD 

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:14 PM ET #53

    We absolutely knew this was going to happen.  The speed at which it did unravel and the unpreparedness of the US in dealing with it will be forever analyzed in the history books.  

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    We absolutely knew this was going to happen.  The speed at which it did unravel and the unpreparedness of the US in dealing with it will be forever analyzed in the history books.  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:29 PM ET #54

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    @sundance   as to the Afghanis who helped us, why did 16 republicans vote NO to speed up their visas so they could get out of there faster?  did you know that Einstien??

     

    good question             but theyll spin something stupid as usual to make it appear as if they alone were doing the right thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterBlack:

    @sundance   as to the Afghanis who helped us, why did 16 republicans vote NO to speed up their visas so they could get out of there faster?  did you know that Einstien??

     

    good question             but theyll spin something stupid as usual to make it appear as if they alone were doing the right thing

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:36 PM ET #55

    I see Lefties on the board that respect an illegitimate President who stranded 40,000 American’s in Afghanistan! Truly pathetic IMO!

    Why do you respect and like this decision to leave loyal and honorable people behind who will be slaughtered by the Taliban??

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    I see Lefties on the board that respect an illegitimate President who stranded 40,000 American’s in Afghanistan! Truly pathetic IMO!

    Why do you respect and like this decision to leave loyal and honorable people behind who will be slaughtered by the Taliban??

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:37 PM ET #56

    It will be worth it if we can save just 1 life!

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    It will be worth it if we can save just 1 life!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 1:01 PM ET #57

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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 7:55 PM ET #58

    The tweet inside the link below will show biden (does not deserve a 1st name) will not attempt to save the lives of helpless American's inside Afghanistan! Shocking !

    Dan Lamothe on Twitter: "According to the aides, the Biden administration officials told Senate staffers that there is no plan to evacuate Americans who are still outside of Kabul, as they do not have a way of getting through the Taliban checkpoints outside the capital city. https://t.co/UmjRhsCz7k" / Twitter

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    The tweet inside the link below will show biden (does not deserve a 1st name) will not attempt to save the lives of helpless American's inside Afghanistan! Shocking !

    Dan Lamothe on Twitter: "According to the aides, the Biden administration officials told Senate staffers that there is no plan to evacuate Americans who are still outside of Kabul, as they do not have a way of getting through the Taliban checkpoints outside the capital city. https://t.co/UmjRhsCz7k" / Twitter

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 8:10 PM ET #59

    Somebody correct me if I am wrong. biden stranded thousands of American's in a hell hole called Afghanistan.

    He goes to the White House after leaving Camp David to address the nation yesterday afternoon.

    biden goes back to Camp David after talking to the nation.

    People on covers actually voted for this type of leadership!

     

     

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    Somebody correct me if I am wrong. biden stranded thousands of American's in a hell hole called Afghanistan.

    He goes to the White House after leaving Camp David to address the nation yesterday afternoon.

    biden goes back to Camp David after talking to the nation.

    People on covers actually voted for this type of leadership!

     

     

     
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    OP, you realize A) Trump wanted a much faster withdrawal, and B) troops levels were already cut 95% when Biden took office

    What exactly would Trump have done differently?I

    Never should have been as big or as long in Afghanistan.. Had to leave someday... It was a lost cause like Vietnam (by the end ..and probably the whole time)

     

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    OP, you realize A) Trump wanted a much faster withdrawal, and B) troops levels were already cut 95% when Biden took office

    What exactly would Trump have done differently?I

    Never should have been as big or as long in Afghanistan.. Had to leave someday... It was a lost cause like Vietnam (by the end ..and probably the whole time)

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    OP, you realize A) Trump wanted a much faster withdrawal, and B) troops levels were already cut 95% when Biden took office What exactly would Trump have done differently?I Never should have been as big or as long in Afghanistan.. Had to leave someday... It was a lost cause like Vietnam (by the end ..and probably the whole time)

    President Trump would not have stranded thousands of US citizens. Amazing how Lefties in this forum support the treasonous action of biden. Truly sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    OP, you realize A) Trump wanted a much faster withdrawal, and B) troops levels were already cut 95% when Biden took office What exactly would Trump have done differently?I Never should have been as big or as long in Afghanistan.. Had to leave someday... It was a lost cause like Vietnam (by the end ..and probably the whole time)

    President Trump would not have stranded thousands of US citizens. Amazing how Lefties in this forum support the treasonous action of biden. Truly sad!

     
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    Inside the link below is the letter biden's State Department sent to the abandoned American's left in Afghanistan. America did not vote for this. Our country would be better off if sundance was in charge! I promise you! 

    US State Department Tells Americans in Afghanistan to Head to the Kabul Airport But "Cannot Guarantee Your Security" - The Last Refuge (theconservativetreehouse.com)

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    Inside the link below is the letter biden's State Department sent to the abandoned American's left in Afghanistan. America did not vote for this. Our country would be better off if sundance was in charge! I promise you! 

    US State Department Tells Americans in Afghanistan to Head to the Kabul Airport But "Cannot Guarantee Your Security" - The Last Refuge (theconservativetreehouse.com)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Inside the link below is the letter biden's State Department sent to the abandoned American's left in Afghanistan. America did not vote for this. Our country would be better off if sundance was in charge! I promise you!  US State Department Tells Americans in Afghanistan to Head to the Kabul Airport But "Cannot Guarantee Your Security" - The Last Refuge (theconservativetreehouse.com)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Inside the link below is the letter biden's State Department sent to the abandoned American's left in Afghanistan. America did not vote for this. Our country would be better off if sundance was in charge! I promise you!  US State Department Tells Americans in Afghanistan to Head to the Kabul Airport But "Cannot Guarantee Your Security" - The Last Refuge (theconservativetreehouse.com)

    the Iraqi info minister...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2021 - 11:15 PM ET #64

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     Camp David versus cheating at golf in Florida. You pick.

    why not read something intelligent as posted here and put down Fox Fantasy World

    https://www.sarahchayes.org/post/the-ides-of-august?fbclid=IwAR2JIObVa-jeaAmh0Lyfd4j0piXeKJo6cV3eCRAoTIWwvo6khMCR_6DHtfw

     

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     Camp David versus cheating at golf in Florida. You pick.

    why not read something intelligent as posted here and put down Fox Fantasy World

    https://www.sarahchayes.org/post/the-ides-of-august?fbclid=IwAR2JIObVa-jeaAmh0Lyfd4j0piXeKJo6cV3eCRAoTIWwvo6khMCR_6DHtfw

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2021 - 12:01 AM ET #65

     You lefties trying to stick up for Robinette are so blind, that it is pathetic. 

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     You lefties trying to stick up for Robinette are so blind, that it is pathetic. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2021 - 8:54 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by Inblood:

    @sundance  Camp David versus cheating at golf in Florida. You pick. why not read something intelligent as posted here and put down Fox Fantasy World https://www.sarahchayes.org/post/the-ides-of-august?fbclid=IwAR2JIObVa-jeaAmh0Lyfd4j0piXeKJo6cV3eCRAoTIWwvo6khMCR_6DHtfw

    Everything I read is intelligent!

    Call Ashley Biden up and ask her how her father was in the shower!

    Call the family members of Seal Tram 6  who were sacrificed by Obama and Biden on 6 August 2011 and see how they feel about abandoning American's in Afghanistan.

    Call the family members of Ambassador Chris Stevens, State Department employee Sean Smith, and CIA security contractors Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty who received no help from Obama and biden as they defended our consulate in Benghazi.

    joe biden has a track record of leaving American's behind to perish at the hands of the enemy. 

    You voted for a person who is bought and paid for by the CCP.

     
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    @sundance  Camp David versus cheating at golf in Florida. You pick. why not read something intelligent as posted here and put down Fox Fantasy World https://www.sarahchayes.org/post/the-ides-of-august?fbclid=IwAR2JIObVa-jeaAmh0Lyfd4j0piXeKJo6cV3eCRAoTIWwvo6khMCR_6DHtfw

    Everything I read is intelligent!

    Call Ashley Biden up and ask her how her father was in the shower!

    Call the family members of Seal Tram 6  who were sacrificed by Obama and Biden on 6 August 2011 and see how they feel about abandoning American's in Afghanistan.

    Call the family members of Ambassador Chris Stevens, State Department employee Sean Smith, and CIA security contractors Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty who received no help from Obama and biden as they defended our consulate in Benghazi.

    joe biden has a track record of leaving American's behind to perish at the hands of the enemy. 

    You voted for a person who is bought and paid for by the CCP.

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2021 - 9:35 AM ET #67

    China gave Joe the election.... Joe gave China Afghanistan...

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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2021 - 9:48 AM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    China gave Joe the election.... Joe gave China Afghanistan...

    That is so true! 2T in minerals for the CCP!

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    China gave Joe the election.... Joe gave China Afghanistan...

    That is so true! 2T in minerals for the CCP!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fullblown:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Inside the link below is the letter biden's State Department sent to the abandoned American's left in Afghanistan. America did not vote for this. Our country would be better off if sundance was in charge! I promise you!  US State Department Tells Americans in Afghanistan to Head to the Kabul Airport But "Cannot Guarantee Your Security" - The Last Refuge (theconservativetreehouse.com) the Iraqi info minister...

    You will be voting for Donald Trump in 2024. That is if we are still standing! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Inside the link below is the letter biden's State Department sent to the abandoned American's left in Afghanistan. America did not vote for this. Our country would be better off if sundance was in charge! I promise you!  US State Department Tells Americans in Afghanistan to Head to the Kabul Airport But "Cannot Guarantee Your Security" - The Last Refuge (theconservativetreehouse.com) the Iraqi info minister...

    You will be voting for Donald Trump in 2024. That is if we are still standing! 

     
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     If you remember correctly, the Former Guy left sick Americans offshore on cruise ships because he didn't want to negatively impact his covid #'s.

    He never cared about us & doesn't now.

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     If you remember correctly, the Former Guy left sick Americans offshore on cruise ships because he didn't want to negatively impact his covid #'s.

    He never cared about us & doesn't now.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @sundance  If you remember correctly, the Former Guy left sick Americans offshore on cruise ships because he didn't want to negatively impact his covid #'s. He never cared about us & doesn't now.

    This situation is horrendous Midnight! IMO the 'other' guy would not have negotiated with the Taliban and he would not have stranded 40k or so American's.

     

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    @sundance  If you remember correctly, the Former Guy left sick Americans offshore on cruise ships because he didn't want to negatively impact his covid #'s. He never cared about us & doesn't now.

    This situation is horrendous Midnight! IMO the 'other' guy would not have negotiated with the Taliban and he would not have stranded 40k or so American's.

     

     
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    Guess the restriction on firearms for civilians worked like a charm

     The country fell in less than a week to the Taliban guess they didn't abide by the laws cause they the one with the guns. 

    The country is at a relative peace.  The war is over.  

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     The country fell in less than a week to the Taliban guess they didn't abide by the laws cause they the one with the guns. 

    The country is at a relative peace.  The war is over.  

     
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     Does anyone know who the president is?

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     Does anyone know who the president is?

     
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    The tribal lords and sevurtatian clerics have yet to convene a new congress unlike America the Taliban swore no out side interest will govern their state. Including yeminies al quedi . 

    The intermediate state opened by securing market a communication and general public institutions such as police. 

    The hospitals remain open but a general 20 hour curfew has been stated in provincial capitals.... causulty counts gas decreased to 25 percent compared to foreign state occupation......

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    The intermediate state opened by securing market a communication and general public institutions such as police. 

    The hospitals remain open but a general 20 hour curfew has been stated in provincial capitals.... causulty counts gas decreased to 25 percent compared to foreign state occupation......

     
     
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    @nature1970  Does anyone know who the president is?

    The statement by Hashemi came on Thursday, August 19, which marks Afghanistan’s Independence Day. Celebrations were not as large as in previous years, before the Taliban takeover.  

    Wahidullah Hashemi, a senior Taliban member, told Reuters that Afghanistan might be ruled by a council and the authority of the council will be determined by the supreme Taliban leader Akhundzada.

    “Discussions haven’t been conducted on what it will be like—perhaps we will establish a council. What you call a president we will call 'the head of ministers.' We will have ministers, and all these ministers will be appointed by the head of the council,” said Hashemi.

    “Amirul Momineen, whose name is Mawlavi Hibatullah Akhundzada, is our religious leader and also our political leader. But at the moment he does not play the role of a president. He plays a stronger role. We will have a person there who will play the role of a deputy or a president,” said Hashemi. 

    This comes a day after Abdullah Abdullah, the head of the High Council of National Reconciliation, and former President Hamid Karzai met with Khalilurrahman Haqqani, the nephew of Sirajuddin Haqqani, the leader of the Haqqani network. 

    “We will keep our relations with the world, but all these ties will be determined in accordance to some principles and based on our national principles,” said Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman. 

    Source https://tolonews.com/afghanistan-174309

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    @nature1970  Does anyone know who the president is?

    The statement by Hashemi came on Thursday, August 19, which marks Afghanistan’s Independence Day. Celebrations were not as large as in previous years, before the Taliban takeover.  

    Wahidullah Hashemi, a senior Taliban member, told Reuters that Afghanistan might be ruled by a council and the authority of the council will be determined by the supreme Taliban leader Akhundzada.

    “Discussions haven’t been conducted on what it will be like—perhaps we will establish a council. What you call a president we will call 'the head of ministers.' We will have ministers, and all these ministers will be appointed by the head of the council,” said Hashemi.

    “Amirul Momineen, whose name is Mawlavi Hibatullah Akhundzada, is our religious leader and also our political leader. But at the moment he does not play the role of a president. He plays a stronger role. We will have a person there who will play the role of a deputy or a president,” said Hashemi. 

    This comes a day after Abdullah Abdullah, the head of the High Council of National Reconciliation, and former President Hamid Karzai met with Khalilurrahman Haqqani, the nephew of Sirajuddin Haqqani, the leader of the Haqqani network. 

    “We will keep our relations with the world, but all these ties will be determined in accordance to some principles and based on our national principles,” said Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman. 

    Source https://tolonews.com/afghanistan-174309

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