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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 1:04 PM ET #1826

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fact checking by NPR and USAtoday also dispute Trump's claim that US is exceeding South Korea in coronavirus testing.  US still lags behind according to American clinical lab association.  Trump's comparison is misleading by omiting a key detail.  Although the number of US tests now exceed South Korea's, the percentage of population that has been tested is far greater in South Korea.  According to Kaiser family foundation, raw numbers are not the best measure.  To account for population differences, per capital testing rate is a better measure.  On a per capita basis, South Korea is testing 6 times more people than the US.  According to World health organization, testing is a key measure of a country's ability in dealing with a pandemic.  Currently, South Korea has declining number of new cases while US sick cases are still growing at exponential rate.

    How many times do I have to breakdown the numbers for you? I swear you understand nothing. Also per capita makes no sense in this scenario. It should be about the total people tested and not per capita. The US has 7x the population of South Korea. 

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    Fact checking by NPR and USAtoday also dispute Trump's claim that US is exceeding South Korea in coronavirus testing.  US still lags behind according to American clinical lab association.  Trump's comparison is misleading by omiting a key detail.  Although the number of US tests now exceed South Korea's, the percentage of population that has been tested is far greater in South Korea.  According to Kaiser family foundation, raw numbers are not the best measure.  To account for population differences, per capital testing rate is a better measure.  On a per capita basis, South Korea is testing 6 times more people than the US.  According to World health organization, testing is a key measure of a country's ability in dealing with a pandemic.  Currently, South Korea has declining number of new cases while US sick cases are still growing at exponential rate.

    How many times do I have to breakdown the numbers for you? I swear you understand nothing. Also per capita makes no sense in this scenario. It should be about the total people tested and not per capita. The US has 7x the population of South Korea. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 1:16 PM ET #1827

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Everyone knows it will never happen so stop the bullshit.   Ok, Midnight1......if what you say is true. Take what I posted,,  that you say is bullshit and highlight the sentence or sentences that proves your point.....

    Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Everyone knows it will never happen so stop the bullshit.   Ok, Midnight1......if what you say is true. Take what I posted,,  that you say is bullshit and highlight the sentence or sentences that proves your point.....

    Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 1:54 PM ET #1828

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Everyone knows it will never happen so stop the bullshit.   Ok, Midnight1......if what you say is true. Take what I posted,,  that you say is bullshit and highlight the sentence or sentences that proves your point....

    Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions.

    That's what I thought!    Carry on..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Everyone knows it will never happen so stop the bullshit.   Ok, Midnight1......if what you say is true. Take what I posted,,  that you say is bullshit and highlight the sentence or sentences that proves your point....

    Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions.

    That's what I thought!    Carry on..........

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 3:46 PM ET #1829

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fact checking by NPR and USAtoday also dispute Trump's claim that US is exceeding South Korea in coronavirus testing.  US still lags behind according to American clinical lab association.  Trump's comparison is misleading by omiting a key detail.  Although the number of US tests now exceed South Korea's, the percentage of population that has been tested is far greater in South Korea.  According to Kaiser family foundation, raw numbers are not the best measure.  To account for population differences, per capital testing rate is a better measure.  On a per capita basis, South Korea is testing 6 times more people than the US.  According to World health organization, testing is a key measure of a country's ability in dealing with a pandemic.  Currently, South Korea has declining number of new cases while US sick cases are still growing at exponential rate.

    It is not a contest to see how many people each country can test.  Just test the sick folks and the ones who may have been exposed.  If South Korea has more % sick or suspected folks — then they should test more of a % of their folks.  

    Good their numbers are declining.  They are closer to China and were ramping up first. So, they should ramp down first.  Should mean we are not that far behind.   The issue we have is that we are not as dense — and may take longer to make a complete run-through.  

    But again, no point in wasting a test on a well person — other than to stir up hysteria. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fact checking by NPR and USAtoday also dispute Trump's claim that US is exceeding South Korea in coronavirus testing.  US still lags behind according to American clinical lab association.  Trump's comparison is misleading by omiting a key detail.  Although the number of US tests now exceed South Korea's, the percentage of population that has been tested is far greater in South Korea.  According to Kaiser family foundation, raw numbers are not the best measure.  To account for population differences, per capital testing rate is a better measure.  On a per capita basis, South Korea is testing 6 times more people than the US.  According to World health organization, testing is a key measure of a country's ability in dealing with a pandemic.  Currently, South Korea has declining number of new cases while US sick cases are still growing at exponential rate.

    It is not a contest to see how many people each country can test.  Just test the sick folks and the ones who may have been exposed.  If South Korea has more % sick or suspected folks — then they should test more of a % of their folks.  

    Good their numbers are declining.  They are closer to China and were ramping up first. So, they should ramp down first.  Should mean we are not that far behind.   The issue we have is that we are not as dense — and may take longer to make a complete run-through.  

    But again, no point in wasting a test on a well person — other than to stir up hysteria. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 3:54 PM ET #1830

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions.

    What were your outstanding questions about it?  Whether hey can do it?  Whether that have done it before?  I missed your questions.  By ‘outstanding’ did you mean that they were great questions, or just questions nobody had answered yet? an_wink

    See some spots in Florida and NC now doing road blocks. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions.

    What were your outstanding questions about it?  Whether hey can do it?  Whether that have done it before?  I missed your questions.  By ‘outstanding’ did you mean that they were great questions, or just questions nobody had answered yet? an_wink

    See some spots in Florida and NC now doing road blocks. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 9:23 PM ET #1831

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions. What were your outstanding questions about it?  Whether hey can do it?  Whether that have done it before?  I missed your questions.  By ‘outstanding’ did you mean that they were great questions, or just questions nobody had answered yet?  See some spots in Florida and NC now doing road blocks.

    Slim knows what I mean & I directed my response to his.peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Sure, I can do that as soon as you answer my outstanding questions. What were your outstanding questions about it?  Whether hey can do it?  Whether that have done it before?  I missed your questions.  By ‘outstanding’ did you mean that they were great questions, or just questions nobody had answered yet?  See some spots in Florida and NC now doing road blocks.

    Slim knows what I mean & I directed my response to his.peace

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 9:49 PM ET #1832

    We were supposed to be back at work by Easter but now it's April 30th. We were going to quarantine New York, New Jersey and Connecticut but now we're not.

    The president doesn't know what he's doing. He really doesn't. He says the silliest shit & expects people to believe it. Just like in here people thinking his quarantine of NYC would ever happen.

     

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    We were supposed to be back at work by Easter but now it's April 30th. We were going to quarantine New York, New Jersey and Connecticut but now we're not.

    The president doesn't know what he's doing. He really doesn't. He says the silliest shit & expects people to believe it. Just like in here people thinking his quarantine of NYC would ever happen.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 10:04 PM ET #1833

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We were supposed to be back at work by Easter but now it's April 30th. We were going to quarantine New York, New Jersey and Connecticut but now we're not. The president doesn't know what he's doing. He really doesn't. He says the silliest shit & expects people to believe it. Just like in here people thinking his quarantine of NYC would ever happen.

    Do you actually thinks he makes all these decisions? He has teams of people who make them. With a situation like this, he is pretty much a puppet who is displaying everything that he is being told. You think he himself, who knows nothing about pandemics, sat last night and thought, "Hmm if I close down New York will it help?". No the doctors came into his office this morning and said the things he should do. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We were supposed to be back at work by Easter but now it's April 30th. We were going to quarantine New York, New Jersey and Connecticut but now we're not. The president doesn't know what he's doing. He really doesn't. He says the silliest shit & expects people to believe it. Just like in here people thinking his quarantine of NYC would ever happen.

    Do you actually thinks he makes all these decisions? He has teams of people who make them. With a situation like this, he is pretty much a puppet who is displaying everything that he is being told. You think he himself, who knows nothing about pandemics, sat last night and thought, "Hmm if I close down New York will it help?". No the doctors came into his office this morning and said the things he should do. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2020 - 11:31 PM ET #1834

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We were supposed to be back at work by Easter but now it's April 30th. We were going to quarantine New York, New Jersey and Connecticut but now we're not. The president doesn't know what he's doing. He really doesn't. He says the silliest shit & expects people to believe it. Just like in here people thinking his quarantine of NYC would ever happen. Do you actually thinks he makes all these decisions? He has teams of people who make them. With a situation like this, he is pretty much a puppet who is displaying everything that he is being told. You think he himself, who knows nothing about pandemics, sat last night and thought, "Hmm if I close down New York will it help?". No the doctors came into his office this morning and said the things he should do.

    Are you and sundance vying for the title?   an_popcorn 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We were supposed to be back at work by Easter but now it's April 30th. We were going to quarantine New York, New Jersey and Connecticut but now we're not. The president doesn't know what he's doing. He really doesn't. He says the silliest shit & expects people to believe it. Just like in here people thinking his quarantine of NYC would ever happen. Do you actually thinks he makes all these decisions? He has teams of people who make them. With a situation like this, he is pretty much a puppet who is displaying everything that he is being told. You think he himself, who knows nothing about pandemics, sat last night and thought, "Hmm if I close down New York will it help?". No the doctors came into his office this morning and said the things he should do.

    Are you and sundance vying for the title?   an_popcorn 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 8:03 AM ET #1835

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    It was nice to see the First Lady tweet to children about being safe on the Internet. And for Justin Trudeau, she is registered at the Ritz -Carlton under Natasha Badinov. You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

    I appreciate Melania Trumps campaign towards children's overall safety...its completely different from what many of her predecessors did by looking the other way while the elite 1% partied with the likes of Epstein, Tony Podesta's artwork, and even worse...an_light

    https://youtu.be/Jqqv2_x19zI

    Trump's a hero when it comes to his stance on going after child traffickers...he put away more pedophiles in one year than Obama did in 8 years...was Barak told to hush and shush by Biden so that his Clinton buddies & associates could keep up with their side hustle? 

    If only Trump came to office sooner, Seth Rich might still be alive an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    It was nice to see the First Lady tweet to children about being safe on the Internet. And for Justin Trudeau, she is registered at the Ritz -Carlton under Natasha Badinov. You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

    I appreciate Melania Trumps campaign towards children's overall safety...its completely different from what many of her predecessors did by looking the other way while the elite 1% partied with the likes of Epstein, Tony Podesta's artwork, and even worse...an_light

    https://youtu.be/Jqqv2_x19zI

    Trump's a hero when it comes to his stance on going after child traffickers...he put away more pedophiles in one year than Obama did in 8 years...was Barak told to hush and shush by Biden so that his Clinton buddies & associates could keep up with their side hustle? 

    If only Trump came to office sooner, Seth Rich might still be alive an_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 9:47 AM ET #1836

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    I truly believe our deatt rate is below 0.1%.

    A pair of public health experts from Stanford, Drs. Eran Bendavid andJay Bhattacharya, warn Americans ina Wall Street Journal editorial that the current estimates about the coronavirus' fatality rate may be too high by "orders of magnitude."

    According to Bendavid and Bhattacharya, both of whom are medical doctors, while they are supportive of social distancing guidelines and efforts to contain the disease, they fear that orders to shut down the entire economy may be based on shoddy research data.

    Death toll projects may be 'orders of magnitude too high'

    "If it's true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified," they wrote. "But," and what a big one it is, they add, "there's little evidence to confirm that premise — and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high."

    The two submit that because the United States and other countries largely focus their testing on symptomatic patients, the number of people who are infected with COVID-19 is likely much larger than the number of confirmed cases being reported by public health agencies throughout the country, which means the virus' mortality rate is likely significantly lower.

    "Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate — 2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 have died, according to the World Health Organization and others," wrote Bendavid and Bhattacharya. "So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, 2 million to 4 million could die. We believe that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases."

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    I truly believe our deatt rate is below 0.1%.

    A pair of public health experts from Stanford, Drs. Eran Bendavid andJay Bhattacharya, warn Americans ina Wall Street Journal editorial that the current estimates about the coronavirus' fatality rate may be too high by "orders of magnitude."

    According to Bendavid and Bhattacharya, both of whom are medical doctors, while they are supportive of social distancing guidelines and efforts to contain the disease, they fear that orders to shut down the entire economy may be based on shoddy research data.

    Death toll projects may be 'orders of magnitude too high'

    "If it's true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified," they wrote. "But," and what a big one it is, they add, "there's little evidence to confirm that premise — and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high."

    The two submit that because the United States and other countries largely focus their testing on symptomatic patients, the number of people who are infected with COVID-19 is likely much larger than the number of confirmed cases being reported by public health agencies throughout the country, which means the virus' mortality rate is likely significantly lower.

    "Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate — 2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 have died, according to the World Health Organization and others," wrote Bendavid and Bhattacharya. "So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, 2 million to 4 million could die. We believe that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases."

     
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    How did they predict this?

    The two professors argue that the best evidence of the coronavirus death rate being significantly lower than what is being reported may lie in the Italian town of Vò. On March 6, the town's 3,300 residents were tested. Of these, 90 tests came back positive, indicating a prevalence of 2.7% of the population having the virus.

    If one were to apply this to the entire province where the town is located, which has a population of 955,000, it would mean there were actually 26,000 infections at the time, and not just the 198 that were officially confirmed. This would be 130 times greater than the number of reported cases. Since Italy's case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, Bendavid and Bhattacharya write,"the real fatality rate [of the virus] could in fact be closer to 0.06%."

    A 'cause for optimism'?

    The two Stanford Health Policy experts even said the virus' mortality rate might be on par with that of the seasonal flu:

    Existing evidence suggests that the virus is highly transmissible and that the number of infections doubles roughly every three days. An epidemic seed on Jan. 1 implies that by March 9 about six million people in the U.S. would have been infected. As of March 23, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 499 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. If our surmise of six million cases is accurate, that's a mortality rate of 0.01%, assuming a two week lag between infection and death. This is one-tenth of the flu mortality rate of 0.1%. Such a low death rate would be cause for optimism.

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    The two professors argue that the best evidence of the coronavirus death rate being significantly lower than what is being reported may lie in the Italian town of Vò. On March 6, the town's 3,300 residents were tested. Of these, 90 tests came back positive, indicating a prevalence of 2.7% of the population having the virus.

    If one were to apply this to the entire province where the town is located, which has a population of 955,000, it would mean there were actually 26,000 infections at the time, and not just the 198 that were officially confirmed. This would be 130 times greater than the number of reported cases. Since Italy's case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, Bendavid and Bhattacharya write,"the real fatality rate [of the virus] could in fact be closer to 0.06%."

    A 'cause for optimism'?

    The two Stanford Health Policy experts even said the virus' mortality rate might be on par with that of the seasonal flu:

    Existing evidence suggests that the virus is highly transmissible and that the number of infections doubles roughly every three days. An epidemic seed on Jan. 1 implies that by March 9 about six million people in the U.S. would have been infected. As of March 23, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 499 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. If our surmise of six million cases is accurate, that's a mortality rate of 0.01%, assuming a two week lag between infection and death. This is one-tenth of the flu mortality rate of 0.1%. Such a low death rate would be cause for optimism.

     
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    A universal lockdown 'may not be worth the costs'

    Bendavid and Bhattacharya say that if they are right about the lower lethality of the epidemic, public policy experts should focus their measures on protecting the elderly and expanding medical capacity.

    "Hospital resources will need to be reallocated to care for the critically ill patients. Triage will need to improve. And policy makers will need to focus on reducing risks for older adults and people with underlying medical conditions."

    The pair conclude that if their estimates are right, then the universal quarantine measures "may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community, and individual mental and physical health."

    "We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns," they added.

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    Bendavid and Bhattacharya say that if they are right about the lower lethality of the epidemic, public policy experts should focus their measures on protecting the elderly and expanding medical capacity.

    "Hospital resources will need to be reallocated to care for the critically ill patients. Triage will need to improve. And policy makers will need to focus on reducing risks for older adults and people with underlying medical conditions."

    The pair conclude that if their estimates are right, then the universal quarantine measures "may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community, and individual mental and physical health."

    "We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns," they added.

     
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    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world. 

    Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history. 

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    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world. 

    Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Actually, every single country was caught with their pants down as the chinese communist party inserted themselves from behind while the world was sleeping.

    What we are actually witnessing is Xi's regime getting away with the worlds largest cover up, while at the same time now Xi's regime is set up to profit the most from the pandemic they deliberately spread worldwide.

    This is like you pushing someone overboard, watching them while laughing, letting them struggle to keep themselves afloat and just as they are about to drown you throw them a life preserver and expect to be called a hero.

     

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    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Actually, every single country was caught with their pants down as the chinese communist party inserted themselves from behind while the world was sleeping.

    What we are actually witnessing is Xi's regime getting away with the worlds largest cover up, while at the same time now Xi's regime is set up to profit the most from the pandemic they deliberately spread worldwide.

    This is like you pushing someone overboard, watching them while laughing, letting them struggle to keep themselves afloat and just as they are about to drown you throw them a life preserver and expect to be called a hero.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Thirdperson ., Let me ax you..how did your own country do with testing,protective equipment,hospital beds and ventilators?

    Was your leadership at home ..where you live first to the front ?

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    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Thirdperson ., Let me ax you..how did your own country do with testing,protective equipment,hospital beds and ventilators?

    Was your leadership at home ..where you live first to the front ?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Thirdperson ., Let me ax you..how did your own country do with testing,protective equipment,hospital beds and ventilators?

    Was your leadership at home ..where you live first to the front ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Thirdperson ., Let me ax you..how did your own country do with testing,protective equipment,hospital beds and ventilators?

    Was your leadership at home ..where you live first to the front ?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Thirdperson ., Let me ax you..how did your own country do with testing,protective equipment,hospital beds and ventilators?

    Was your leadership at home ..where you live first to the front ?

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    World health organization warns that countries aren't doing enough testing for coronavirus.  Evidences show that countries that conduct extensive testing early are recovering sooner than countries that lag behind.  Over testing is irrelevant because doctors mainly determine who should be tested.  The consequences of underreaction are worser than the consequences of overreaction.  This is apparent in the US which has the most coronavirus cases of any country in the world.  Lack of leadership has created a fiasco of epic poroportions.  Months wasted in inadequate testing as Trump administration struggles to catch up.  Testing disaster is followed by disasters in protective equipment, hospital beds and ventilators.   According to Georgetown university, US response will be studied for generations as a textbook example of a disastrous failed effort.  We are witnessing one of the greatest failure of basic governing and leadership in modern history.

    Thirdperson ., Let me ax you..how did your own country do with testing,protective equipment,hospital beds and ventilators?

    Was your leadership at home ..where you live first to the front ?

     
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    *Only posted once .. it came out in triplicate..

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    *Only posted once .. it came out in triplicate..

     
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    I really like Trump's ties, They have beautiful colors and designs.

    Too bad they are made in China along with many of his family's products.  

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    I really like Trump's ties, They have beautiful colors and designs.

    Too bad they are made in China along with many of his family's products.  

     
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    Last night I heard about the model 731 portable ventilators used in the Armed Services that run on battery that cost a little more than $700. Why are we not implementing these? 

    Instead our government is looking for the $40,000 ventilators that have 148 different parts sourced from multiple countries. Only recently has he energized corporations to build new units.

    This administration wasted time denying this virus was real, that is was a Democratic hoax & the sheep on FOX continue to echo this message to its audience.  

    This president has FAILED to protect the citizens of our country.

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    Last night I heard about the model 731 portable ventilators used in the Armed Services that run on battery that cost a little more than $700. Why are we not implementing these? 

    Instead our government is looking for the $40,000 ventilators that have 148 different parts sourced from multiple countries. Only recently has he energized corporations to build new units.

    This administration wasted time denying this virus was real, that is was a Democratic hoax & the sheep on FOX continue to echo this message to its audience.  

    This president has FAILED to protect the citizens of our country.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I really like Trump's ties, They have beautiful colors and designs. Too bad they are made in China along with many of his family's products.

    And every single f-ing thing in the world 

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    I really like Trump's ties, They have beautiful colors and designs. Too bad they are made in China along with many of his family's products.

    And every single f-ing thing in the world 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 6:26 PM ET #1848

    Trump just answered a question about why the U.S. lags other countries, like South Korea, in per-capita testing by saying that Seoul has 38M people “all tightly wound together.” Seoul’s population is just under 10M people. The U.S.’s largest city, New York, has just under 9M.

    He's so farking clueless. He acts like he knows but he knows very little.

    Embarrassing for our country.

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    Trump just answered a question about why the U.S. lags other countries, like South Korea, in per-capita testing by saying that Seoul has 38M people “all tightly wound together.” Seoul’s population is just under 10M people. The U.S.’s largest city, New York, has just under 9M.

    He's so farking clueless. He acts like he knows but he knows very little.

    Embarrassing for our country.

     
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    The population of South Korea was about 51M in 2017.

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    The population of South Korea was about 51M in 2017.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 7:19 PM ET #1850

    Mr.Pillow showed up @ Trump's press conference today to tell everyone to read their bibles while he heaped praise on Trump for the petty little man's ego. This farker shouldn't have been invited to push his religious agenda.

    Trump's running out of court jesters. Who is next Mr. Potato Head?

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    Mr.Pillow showed up @ Trump's press conference today to tell everyone to read their bibles while he heaped praise on Trump for the petty little man's ego. This farker shouldn't have been invited to push his religious agenda.

    Trump's running out of court jesters. Who is next Mr. Potato Head?

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