Most Republican politicians vote strategically. They have “good governance” to consider and they have their next election to consider. It’s obvious the ones who have been successful before the 2016 election would be extremely happy if Trump plane landed nose first into sewerage facility and no longer be held politically captive by a buffoon and not have to explain his ever day live TV humiliation. So till they are free they know that when the legislation will pass, regardless of which direction you vote, but your district is more extremely MAGA, then maybe you rather your next primary.
If you compare Republican senators who are running for reelection this year, to ones who aren’t, and the vote spread between those two groups for foreign aid - that will probably give you a better sense for how much re-election is playing into their choice.
@joe pockets
Spot on.
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
Most Republican politicians vote strategically. They have “good governance” to consider and they have their next election to consider. It’s obvious the ones who have been successful before the 2016 election would be extremely happy if Trump plane landed nose first into sewerage facility and no longer be held politically captive by a buffoon and not have to explain his ever day live TV humiliation. So till they are free they know that when the legislation will pass, regardless of which direction you vote, but your district is more extremely MAGA, then maybe you rather your next primary.
If you compare Republican senators who are running for reelection this year, to ones who aren’t, and the vote spread between those two groups for foreign aid - that will probably give you a better sense for how much re-election is playing into their choice.
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Thank you America" --Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. Pointed out elsewhere already that the bulk of the aid actually comes back to help USA business! Bonus! Opposing the fascist forces of evil and terror from spreading is a lesson we hopefully learned from 80 years ago
You are exactly right, Sweden has to cast aside it's two hundred years national neutrality and conjoin the NATO in March of this year. So did Finland one year ago.
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Thank you America" --Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. Pointed out elsewhere already that the bulk of the aid actually comes back to help USA business! Bonus! Opposing the fascist forces of evil and terror from spreading is a lesson we hopefully learned from 80 years ago
You are exactly right, Sweden has to cast aside it's two hundred years national neutrality and conjoin the NATO in March of this year. So did Finland one year ago.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Thank you America" --Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. Pointed out elsewhere already that the bulk of the aid actually comes back to help USA business! Bonus! Opposing the fascist forces of evil and terror from spreading is a lesson we hopefully learned from 80 years ago You are exactly right, Sweden has to cast aside it's two hundred years national neutrality and conjoin the NATO in March of this year. So did Finland one year ago.
@Europa
yup sweden and finland joining nato r exact opposite of what putins terroristc plans envisioned
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: "Thank you America" --Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy US Congress has just passed the $95 billion Foreign Aid Bill. Pointed out elsewhere already that the bulk of the aid actually comes back to help USA business! Bonus! Opposing the fascist forces of evil and terror from spreading is a lesson we hopefully learned from 80 years ago You are exactly right, Sweden has to cast aside it's two hundred years national neutrality and conjoin the NATO in March of this year. So did Finland one year ago.
@Europa
yup sweden and finland joining nato r exact opposite of what putins terroristc plans envisioned
The hill reveals republican Graham warning that Putin won't stop if successful in Ukraine.
Graham huh..... you mean the same genius that gave us this quote a few months back....
I have been saying for six months now... hit Iran. They have oil fields out in the open, they have the Revolutionary Guard headquarters you can see from space. Blow it off the map."
-Lindsey Graham, Dec 28, 2023
Thank you America
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@thirdperson
The hill reveals republican Graham warning that Putin won't stop if successful in Ukraine.
Graham huh..... you mean the same genius that gave us this quote a few months back....
I have been saying for six months now... hit Iran. They have oil fields out in the open, they have the Revolutionary Guard headquarters you can see from space. Blow it off the map."
Senate passes $95 billion package sending aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan in spite of MAGAs!
Washington CNN —
The Senate on Tuesday passed a long-delayed $95 billion package with wide bipartisan support after both sides of Capitol Hill have struggled for months to send aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.
The final vote was 79-18. Forty-eight Democrats and 31 Republicans voted for the bill. 15 MAGA Republicans voted against the bill.
Most the aid to Ukraine actually goes to American businesses supplying arms & munitions!
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HEADLINES today . . .
Senate passes $95 billion package sending aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan in spite of MAGAs!
Washington CNN —
The Senate on Tuesday passed a long-delayed $95 billion package with wide bipartisan support after both sides of Capitol Hill have struggled for months to send aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.
The final vote was 79-18. Forty-eight Democrats and 31 Republicans voted for the bill. 15 MAGA Republicans voted against the bill.
Most the aid to Ukraine actually goes to American businesses supplying arms & munitions!
Three Democratic Senators voted AGAINST the bill. They must be MAGettes instead of MAGAtts right? But seriously, what "cute" little name does your kind have for those that don't follow the party narrative hook, line and sinker ??
Here are your three NO votes:
Bernie Sanders of Vermont
Jeff Merkley of Oregon
Peter Welch of Vermont
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Thank you America
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OK done waiting for the answer we'll never see.
Three Democratic Senators voted AGAINST the bill. They must be MAGettes instead of MAGAtts right? But seriously, what "cute" little name does your kind have for those that don't follow the party narrative hook, line and sinker ??
US announces $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine
Friday, CNN —
US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced on Friday a $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine — the largest to date — which will allow the US to purchase new equipment produced by the American defense industry for the Ukrainian military.
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US announces $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine
Friday, CNN —
US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced on Friday a $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine — the largest to date — which will allow the US to purchase new equipment produced by the American defense industry for the Ukrainian military.
@fubah2 So corporate handouts to defense contractors is something to cheer about? I dont think so.
Agreed, not in the sense you allude to. No.
But in so much as it is NOT cash being handed over freely to a foreign country, that is a positive message, given that so many on the right wrongly believe it does leave the country and disappears into Ukraine, which is of course false.
We supply the weapons and munitions so the money actually cycles back here. It's NOT greatbut far better than just giving handouts.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@fubah2 So corporate handouts to defense contractors is something to cheer about? I dont think so.
Agreed, not in the sense you allude to. No.
But in so much as it is NOT cash being handed over freely to a foreign country, that is a positive message, given that so many on the right wrongly believe it does leave the country and disappears into Ukraine, which is of course false.
We supply the weapons and munitions so the money actually cycles back here. It's NOT greatbut far better than just giving handouts.
Well we also give/gave billions to them and a ton of it was unaccounted for and that is a fact. It is sickening that DEMS support the war machine just because Israeli power and money own them. If we are giving via debt to other countries when it could be better used at home OR not created via debt in the first place, we need to completely control the narrative and we do not. Israel take our money and so does Ukraine and they do as they wish without consideration for what we feel is important and having boundaries about actions/decisions they make.
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Well we also give/gave billions to them and a ton of it was unaccounted for and that is a fact. It is sickening that DEMS support the war machine just because Israeli power and money own them. If we are giving via debt to other countries when it could be better used at home OR not created via debt in the first place, we need to completely control the narrative and we do not. Israel take our money and so does Ukraine and they do as they wish without consideration for what we feel is important and having boundaries about actions/decisions they make.
US announces $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine Friday, CNN — US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced on Friday a $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine — the largest to date — which will allow the US to purchase new equipment produced by the American defense industry for the Ukrainian military.
needed
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
US announces $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine Friday, CNN — US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced on Friday a $6 billion long-term military aid package for Ukraine — the largest to date — which will allow the US to purchase new equipment produced by the American defense industry for the Ukrainian military.
President Joe Biden in a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday reiterated his “clear position” on a potential Israeli invasion of Rafah and discussed the need for humanitarian aid in Gaza, according to the White House.
“The President and the Prime Minister also discussed increases in the delivery of humanitarian assistance into Gaza including through preparations to open new northern crossings starting this week,” according to a White House readout.
The White House added, “The President stressed the need for this progress to be sustained and enhanced in full coordination with humanitarian organizations. The leaders discussed Rafah and the President reiterated his clear position.”
- CNN
The Biden administration has made clear to its Israeli counterparts that they want to see a clear and actionable plan on how they would protect civilians in Rafah.
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President Joe Biden in a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday reiterated his “clear position” on a potential Israeli invasion of Rafah and discussed the need for humanitarian aid in Gaza, according to the White House.
“The President and the Prime Minister also discussed increases in the delivery of humanitarian assistance into Gaza including through preparations to open new northern crossings starting this week,” according to a White House readout.
The White House added, “The President stressed the need for this progress to be sustained and enhanced in full coordination with humanitarian organizations. The leaders discussed Rafah and the President reiterated his clear position.”
- CNN
The Biden administration has made clear to its Israeli counterparts that they want to see a clear and actionable plan on how they would protect civilians in Rafah.
Well we also give/gave billions to them and a ton of it was unaccounted for and that is a fact. It is sickening that DEMS support the war machine just because Israeli power and money own them. If we are giving via debt to other countries when it could be better used at home OR not created via debt in the first place, we need to completely control the narrative and we do not. Israel take our money and so does Ukraine and they do as they wish without consideration for what we feel is important and having boundaries about actions/decisions they make.
Did someone get into Walls account and post this by mistake or maybe hacked?
We agree on something! Fix our Nation and border first. This lead from behind administration put us in the current horror show we have. Wars, inflation, division, weakness and no respect from any one ANYWHERE! Maybe Biden can pick a side. Iran or Israel. Look at Columbia college. SAY SOMETHING JOE!
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Well we also give/gave billions to them and a ton of it was unaccounted for and that is a fact. It is sickening that DEMS support the war machine just because Israeli power and money own them. If we are giving via debt to other countries when it could be better used at home OR not created via debt in the first place, we need to completely control the narrative and we do not. Israel take our money and so does Ukraine and they do as they wish without consideration for what we feel is important and having boundaries about actions/decisions they make.
Did someone get into Walls account and post this by mistake or maybe hacked?
We agree on something! Fix our Nation and border first. This lead from behind administration put us in the current horror show we have. Wars, inflation, division, weakness and no respect from any one ANYWHERE! Maybe Biden can pick a side. Iran or Israel. Look at Columbia college. SAY SOMETHING JOE!
Well we also give/gave billions to them and a ton of it was unaccounted for and that is a fact. It is sickening that DEMS support the war machine just because Israeli power and money own them. If we are giving via debt to other countries when it could be better used at home OR not created via debt in the first place, we need to completely control the narrative and we do not. Israel take our money and so does Ukraine and they do as they wish without consideration for what we feel is important and having boundaries about actions/decisions they make.
What else is "sickening" is the fact they borrow money to fund these wars. The NATIONAL DEBT is 35 TRILLON and we are funding for others to have borders as we have no border.
How about Joe paying the tuition for all those protestors at the colleges chanting death to Israel and death to America. Seems the same as sending money to Iran, China and Russia as we fund the other sides to fight the wars.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Well we also give/gave billions to them and a ton of it was unaccounted for and that is a fact. It is sickening that DEMS support the war machine just because Israeli power and money own them. If we are giving via debt to other countries when it could be better used at home OR not created via debt in the first place, we need to completely control the narrative and we do not. Israel take our money and so does Ukraine and they do as they wish without consideration for what we feel is important and having boundaries about actions/decisions they make.
What else is "sickening" is the fact they borrow money to fund these wars. The NATIONAL DEBT is 35 TRILLON and we are funding for others to have borders as we have no border.
How about Joe paying the tuition for all those protestors at the colleges chanting death to Israel and death to America. Seems the same as sending money to Iran, China and Russia as we fund the other sides to fight the wars.
Debt doesn't mean much....hasn't everyone figured that out by now....since we were all kids the debt gets talked about and talked about but what's being done about it....nothing....you know what happens when a friend owes you money and they never pay it back??? Nada, nothing....you may not be friends with them anymore but it has zero relevance...yes, you are out that money and down one friend but that's it
The debt is a mirage
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Debt doesn't mean much....hasn't everyone figured that out by now....since we were all kids the debt gets talked about and talked about but what's being done about it....nothing....you know what happens when a friend owes you money and they never pay it back??? Nada, nothing....you may not be friends with them anymore but it has zero relevance...yes, you are out that money and down one friend but that's it
When I was in my late 30's I saw debt as a mirage too. Then we were so underwater with interest payments. Solution? Made a good judgement move years earlier buying the home and property that appreciated . A second mortgage saved our bacon but still was a drain.
When I was in my late 30's I saw debt as a mirage too. Then we were so underwater with interest payments. Solution? Made a good judgement move years earlier buying the home and property that appreciated . A second mortgage saved our bacon but still was a drain.
The National debt will reflect in the value of the dollar. They are trying to run inflation up to pay down old debt. More dollars that are worth less, paying off old debt. This principal never ends well for any Nation.
This is correct. Debt is not a mirage.
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@UNIMAN
The National debt will reflect in the value of the dollar. They are trying to run inflation up to pay down old debt. More dollars that are worth less, paying off old debt. This principal never ends well for any Nation.
President Joe Biden in a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday reiterated his “clear position” on a potential Israeli invasion of Rafah and discussed the need for humanitarian aid in Gaza, according to the White House. “The President and the Prime Minister also discussed increases in the delivery of humanitarian assistance into Gaza including through preparations to open new northern crossings starting this week,” according to a White House readout. The White House added, “The President stressed the need for this progress to be sustained and enhanced in full coordination with humanitarian organizations. The leaders discussed Rafah and the President reiterated his clear position.” - CNN
The Biden administration has made clear to its Israeli counterparts that they want to see a clear and actionable plan on how they would protect civilians in Rafah.
@Zeus4par
Positive step. However, Israel needs to accept and comply.
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
President Joe Biden in a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday reiterated his “clear position” on a potential Israeli invasion of Rafah and discussed the need for humanitarian aid in Gaza, according to the White House. “The President and the Prime Minister also discussed increases in the delivery of humanitarian assistance into Gaza including through preparations to open new northern crossings starting this week,” according to a White House readout. The White House added, “The President stressed the need for this progress to be sustained and enhanced in full coordination with humanitarian organizations. The leaders discussed Rafah and the President reiterated his clear position.” - CNN
The Biden administration has made clear to its Israeli counterparts that they want to see a clear and actionable plan on how they would protect civilians in Rafah.
@Zeus4par
Positive step. However, Israel needs to accept and comply.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/politics/interest-payments-federal-government-debt/index.html https://www.axios.com/2024/02/08/us-government-debt-gdp-interest-costs When I was in my late 30's I saw debt as a mirage too. Then we were so underwater with interest payments. Solution? Made a good judgement move years earlier buying the home and property that appreciated . A second mortgage saved our bacon but still was a drain. Debt is not a mirage.
These interest rates with 35 trillion debt, will soon choke the Nation. Not sure even Trump will be able to pull us out of the horrible position we are in.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/16/politics/interest-payments-federal-government-debt/index.html https://www.axios.com/2024/02/08/us-government-debt-gdp-interest-costs When I was in my late 30's I saw debt as a mirage too. Then we were so underwater with interest payments. Solution? Made a good judgement move years earlier buying the home and property that appreciated . A second mortgage saved our bacon but still was a drain. Debt is not a mirage.
These interest rates with 35 trillion debt, will soon choke the Nation. Not sure even Trump will be able to pull us out of the horrible position we are in.
Debt is not a mirage. These interest rates with 35 trillion debt, will soon choke the Nation. Not sure even Trump will be able to pull us out of the horrible position we are in.
According to US treasury, Trump increased national debt by 33.1% compared to Biden 8.8%.
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Quote Originally Posted by witswits:
Debt is not a mirage. These interest rates with 35 trillion debt, will soon choke the Nation. Not sure even Trump will be able to pull us out of the horrible position we are in.
According to US treasury, Trump increased national debt by 33.1% compared to Biden 8.8%.
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