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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2021 - 10:58 AM ET #51

    @marquee_

     Rumblings? an_roll_laugh

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    @marquee_

     Rumblings? an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2021 - 11:25 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by marquee_:

    @thirdperson  Lawsuits?  There are rumblings life insurance companies won’t pay out policies on those who consented to taking these vaccines citing they’re experimental.

    Covid vaccines do not invalidate insurance policies according to American council of life insurers.  All major insurance companies say the same.  On social media, lies spread wide quickly while truth slowly emerges over time.  Key in identifying fake news is to investigate credibility of source and find better sources of information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marquee_:

    @thirdperson  Lawsuits?  There are rumblings life insurance companies won’t pay out policies on those who consented to taking these vaccines citing they’re experimental.

    Covid vaccines do not invalidate insurance policies according to American council of life insurers.  All major insurance companies say the same.  On social media, lies spread wide quickly while truth slowly emerges over time.  Key in identifying fake news is to investigate credibility of source and find better sources of information.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2021 - 5:07 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart: It’s amazing how the vast majority of people think this “vaccine” is a vaccine. IT’S NOT. It’s just being called that because it legally has to in order to shield the pharmaceutical developers from lawsuits. YOU CAN STILL GET COVID AND TRANSMIT COVID AFTER GETTING BOTH SHOTS. No vaccine provides 100% protection but 90% effectiveness is still excellent.   Vaccines  substantially reduce the risks of severe illness, hospitalization and death from coronavirus.  After first shot, possible for a person to be infected because body needs weeks to build immunity. For greater good of public health, governments shield vaccine companies from lawsuits.  US has no fault programs offering limited compensation for vaccine injuries.  For example, 30 payments out of 499 claims filed in last decade,

    That top paragraph would be correct if this “vaccine” was a vaccine.

    But it’s not. It’s a “if infected hopefully symptom lessening” shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart: It’s amazing how the vast majority of people think this “vaccine” is a vaccine. IT’S NOT. It’s just being called that because it legally has to in order to shield the pharmaceutical developers from lawsuits. YOU CAN STILL GET COVID AND TRANSMIT COVID AFTER GETTING BOTH SHOTS. No vaccine provides 100% protection but 90% effectiveness is still excellent.   Vaccines  substantially reduce the risks of severe illness, hospitalization and death from coronavirus.  After first shot, possible for a person to be infected because body needs weeks to build immunity. For greater good of public health, governments shield vaccine companies from lawsuits.  US has no fault programs offering limited compensation for vaccine injuries.  For example, 30 payments out of 499 claims filed in last decade,

    That top paragraph would be correct if this “vaccine” was a vaccine.

    But it’s not. It’s a “if infected hopefully symptom lessening” shot.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 12:41 AM ET #54

    COVID is FAKE!

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    COVID is FAKE!

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 1:08 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lock:

    COVID is FAKE!

    Crisis denial is one of the reasons why US, India and Brazil have the most covid cases and deaths in the world.  Anti-vaxers and anti-maskers distrust real experts and scientific consensus.  Instead they believe crazy conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lock:

    COVID is FAKE!

    Crisis denial is one of the reasons why US, India and Brazil have the most covid cases and deaths in the world.  Anti-vaxers and anti-maskers distrust real experts and scientific consensus.  Instead they believe crazy conspiracy theories.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 1:21 PM ET #56

    Could have something to do with the US, India, and Brazil all being in the top 6 populations in the world. 

    The other top countries barely tested and who knows what’s going on in China. But almost nobody believes their stats. 

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    Could have something to do with the US, India, and Brazil all being in the top 6 populations in the world. 

    The other top countries barely tested and who knows what’s going on in China. But almost nobody believes their stats. 

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 1:23 PM ET #57

    US performed far more tests than any other country 

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    US performed far more tests than any other country 

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 6:07 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    US performed far more tests than any other country

    Testing doesn't create covid cases and doesn't cause high 8% positivity rate.  Overall, US has the most covid cases in the world even without testing according to John Hopkins university.  Positivity rate is the most reliable way to determine if a country is testing enough and has epidemic under control. 

    Since positivity rate is over 5%, US isn't testing enough.  High positivity indicates a country is only testing the sickest and not casting a wide enough net to test the healthy.  Currently, half of all states shouldn't lift restrictions yet.  The 8 worst are Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Alabama, Michigan, South Dakota, Kentucky and Florida.  But thanks to vaccination, US positivity rate is dropping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    US performed far more tests than any other country

    Testing doesn't create covid cases and doesn't cause high 8% positivity rate.  Overall, US has the most covid cases in the world even without testing according to John Hopkins university.  Positivity rate is the most reliable way to determine if a country is testing enough and has epidemic under control. 

    Since positivity rate is over 5%, US isn't testing enough.  High positivity indicates a country is only testing the sickest and not casting a wide enough net to test the healthy.  Currently, half of all states shouldn't lift restrictions yet.  The 8 worst are Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Alabama, Michigan, South Dakota, Kentucky and Florida.  But thanks to vaccination, US positivity rate is dropping.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 8:51 PM ET #59

    According to US center for disease control, vaccine benefits far outweigh risks 

    ######################### 

    Lol they have legal immunity if it fails, which it already has. And then and Gates are making millions whether you live or die

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    According to US center for disease control, vaccine benefits far outweigh risks 

    ######################### 

    Lol they have legal immunity if it fails, which it already has. And then and Gates are making millions whether you live or die

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 8:53 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lock: COVID is FAKE! Crisis denial is one of the reasons why US, India and Brazil have the most covid cases and deaths in the world.  Anti-vaxers and anti-maskers distrust real experts and scientific consensus.  Instead they believe crazy conspiracy theories.
     

    Thousands of doctors disagree. You're a fake account or a fool

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lock: COVID is FAKE! Crisis denial is one of the reasons why US, India and Brazil have the most covid cases and deaths in the world.  Anti-vaxers and anti-maskers distrust real experts and scientific consensus.  Instead they believe crazy conspiracy theories.
     

    Thousands of doctors disagree. You're a fake account or a fool

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 8:54 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: US performed far more tests than any other country Testing doesn't create covid cases and doesn't cause high 8% positivity rate.  Overall, US has the most covid cases in the world even without testing according to John Hopkins university.  Positivity rate is the most reliable way to determine if a country is testing enough and has epidemic under control.  Since positivity rate is over 5%, US isn't testing enough.  High positivity indicates a country is only testing the sickest and not casting a wide enough net to test the healthy.  Currently, half of all states shouldn't lift restrictions yet.  The 8 worst are Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Alabama, Michigan, South Dakota, Kentucky and Florida.  But thanks to vaccination, US positivity rate is dropping.
     

    Testing the healthy???? what?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: US performed far more tests than any other country Testing doesn't create covid cases and doesn't cause high 8% positivity rate.  Overall, US has the most covid cases in the world even without testing according to John Hopkins university.  Positivity rate is the most reliable way to determine if a country is testing enough and has epidemic under control.  Since positivity rate is over 5%, US isn't testing enough.  High positivity indicates a country is only testing the sickest and not casting a wide enough net to test the healthy.  Currently, half of all states shouldn't lift restrictions yet.  The 8 worst are Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Alabama, Michigan, South Dakota, Kentucky and Florida.  But thanks to vaccination, US positivity rate is dropping.
     

    Testing the healthy???? what?

     

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 9:44 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Could have something to do with the US, India, and Brazil all being in the top 6 populations in the world.  The other top countries barely tested and who knows what’s going on in China. But almost nobody believes their stats.

    They just send their infected out into the Gobi to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Could have something to do with the US, India, and Brazil all being in the top 6 populations in the world.  The other top countries barely tested and who knows what’s going on in China. But almost nobody believes their stats.

    They just send their infected out into the Gobi to die.

     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2021 - 9:45 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:

    According to US center for disease control, vaccine benefits far outweigh risks  #########################  Lol they have legal immunity if it fails, which it already has. And then and Gates are making millions whether you live or die

    Dumbest motherfucker on covers.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:

    According to US center for disease control, vaccine benefits far outweigh risks  #########################  Lol they have legal immunity if it fails, which it already has. And then and Gates are making millions whether you live or die

    Dumbest motherfucker on covers.

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 9:51 AM ET #64

    The US has performed 2.3 million tests per 1 million population 

    Only 30 countries in the world have performed more than 50,000 tests per 1 million population 

    an_timeout

     

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    The US has performed 2.3 million tests per 1 million population 

    Only 30 countries in the world have performed more than 50,000 tests per 1 million population 

    an_timeout

     

     
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    Us government is quickly allowing all Americans the vaccine by June every american man woman and child who wishes to have the shot will have access.

    As the United States and world health organization turn to vaccinate the world.

    The U.S. is expected to soon have enough COVID-19 vaccine doses on hand to fully vaccinate just about everyone in the country once, and, with additional doses already purchased, could likely vaccinate the population twice over. The same cannot be said for the majority of countries around the world, especially low- and middle-income countries (LMICs) where access has been limited and will remain so for some time. Furthermore, while manufacturers are scaling up vaccine production, total projected production in 2021 of 9.8 billion is still short of estimated need of up to 11.5 billion to vaccinate everyone globally. Recent actions restricting or pausing the use of the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines in some countries due to extremely rare but serious side effects could reverberate globally, potentially prolonging the vaccine access gap given that these two vaccines have been positioned as key workhorses for ramping up vaccinations in LMICs in particular. Further, the expected need for booster doses and reformulated vaccines to address waning immunity and variants means global demand is likely to remain extremely high for the foreseeable future. Ultimately, ensuring widespread global access to COVID-19 vaccines, which is key to preventing cases and deaths and contributing to global population immunity, is a significant challenge and one that could threaten the ability to control the pandemic.

    Federal officials.

    This brief reviews the main policy options that have been proposed, and related questions, and identifies the actions taken by the administration thus far

    Source https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/global-covid-19-vaccine-access-snapshot-of-inequality/

    https://www.ifpma.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Airfinity_COVID-19_Report_23April2021.pdf

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/world/europe/western-vaccines-africa-hesitancy.html

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776039

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/2021-04-23/vaccine-pause-heard-round-world

    https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/global-covid-19-vaccine-equity-u-s-policy-options-and-actions-to-date/

     

     

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    Us government is quickly allowing all Americans the vaccine by June every american man woman and child who wishes to have the shot will have access.

    As the United States and world health organization turn to vaccinate the world.

    The U.S. is expected to soon have enough COVID-19 vaccine doses on hand to fully vaccinate just about everyone in the country once, and, with additional doses already purchased, could likely vaccinate the population twice over. The same cannot be said for the majority of countries around the world, especially low- and middle-income countries (LMICs) where access has been limited and will remain so for some time. Furthermore, while manufacturers are scaling up vaccine production, total projected production in 2021 of 9.8 billion is still short of estimated need of up to 11.5 billion to vaccinate everyone globally. Recent actions restricting or pausing the use of the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines in some countries due to extremely rare but serious side effects could reverberate globally, potentially prolonging the vaccine access gap given that these two vaccines have been positioned as key workhorses for ramping up vaccinations in LMICs in particular. Further, the expected need for booster doses and reformulated vaccines to address waning immunity and variants means global demand is likely to remain extremely high for the foreseeable future. Ultimately, ensuring widespread global access to COVID-19 vaccines, which is key to preventing cases and deaths and contributing to global population immunity, is a significant challenge and one that could threaten the ability to control the pandemic.

    Federal officials.

    This brief reviews the main policy options that have been proposed, and related questions, and identifies the actions taken by the administration thus far

    Source https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/global-covid-19-vaccine-access-snapshot-of-inequality/

    https://www.ifpma.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Airfinity_COVID-19_Report_23April2021.pdf

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/world/europe/western-vaccines-africa-hesitancy.html

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776039

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/2021-04-23/vaccine-pause-heard-round-world

    https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/global-covid-19-vaccine-equity-u-s-policy-options-and-actions-to-date/

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 11:59 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The US has performed 2.3 million tests per 1 million population  Only 30 countries in the world have performed more than 50,000 tests per 1 million population

    According to John Hopkins university, testing should be scaled to the size of epidemic.  Not the size of population.  If positivity rate is under 5%, epidemic is under control and less testing is needed.  However US positivity rate is about 8% with half of all states above 5%.  So public health experts agree US isn't doing enough testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The US has performed 2.3 million tests per 1 million population  Only 30 countries in the world have performed more than 50,000 tests per 1 million population

    According to John Hopkins university, testing should be scaled to the size of epidemic.  Not the size of population.  If positivity rate is under 5%, epidemic is under control and less testing is needed.  However US positivity rate is about 8% with half of all states above 5%.  So public health experts agree US isn't doing enough testing.

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 2:47 PM ET #67

    @I_Need_A_Detox

     In other words, those countries, people were smarter and don't buy the junk

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    @I_Need_A_Detox

     In other words, those countries, people were smarter and don't buy the junk

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 2:48 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: According to US center for disease control, vaccine benefits far outweigh risks  #########################  Lol they have legal immunity if it fails, which it already has. And then and Gates are making millions whether you live or die Dumbest motherfucker on covers.
    . 

    In other words you deflect and can't challenge the truth. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: According to US center for disease control, vaccine benefits far outweigh risks  #########################  Lol they have legal immunity if it fails, which it already has. And then and Gates are making millions whether you live or die Dumbest motherfucker on covers.
    . 

    In other words you deflect and can't challenge the truth. 

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 2:54 PM ET #69

    1 in 6million died from being vaccinated.

    1 in 500 Americans have died of covid.

    Pick your poison but herd immunity is achievable

     Those that succumb to the infection won't need to be vaccinated and will no longer be apart of the equation.

    Johnson and Johnson vaccine reports.

    Versus how many Americans died versus total number of americans. To a percieved reality stat.

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    1 in 6million died from being vaccinated.

    1 in 500 Americans have died of covid.

    Pick your poison but herd immunity is achievable

     Those that succumb to the infection won't need to be vaccinated and will no longer be apart of the equation.

    Johnson and Johnson vaccine reports.

    Versus how many Americans died versus total number of americans. To a percieved reality stat.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    1 in 6million died from being vaccinated. 1 in 500 Americans have died of covid. Pick your poison but herd immunity is achievable  Those that succumb to the infection won't need to be vaccinated and will no longer be apart of the equation. Johnson and Johnson vaccine reports. Versus how many Americans died versus total number of americans. To a percieved reality stat.
     

    1 in 6 million? Um....it's a micro. It can kill you later. 1 in 6 million is a lie to begin with. 

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    1 in 6million died from being vaccinated. 1 in 500 Americans have died of covid. Pick your poison but herd immunity is achievable  Those that succumb to the infection won't need to be vaccinated and will no longer be apart of the equation. Johnson and Johnson vaccine reports. Versus how many Americans died versus total number of americans. To a percieved reality stat.
     

    1 in 6 million? Um....it's a micro. It can kill you later. 1 in 6 million is a lie to begin with. 

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 5:00 PM ET #71

    The US doesn’t have an 8% positivity rate 

    Please no fake news in this thread 

    peace_5

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    The US doesn’t have an 8% positivity rate 

    Please no fake news in this thread 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 5:01 PM ET #72

    Pfizer's COVID vaccine earned the company $3.5 billion in the first three months of this year, 25% of Pfizer's total revenue - The Hill

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    Pfizer's COVID vaccine earned the company $3.5 billion in the first three months of this year, 25% of Pfizer's total revenue - The Hill

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 6:14 PM ET #73

    Trump or John Hopkins. Medical.

    Yah I believe John Hopkins over a traitor.

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    Trump or John Hopkins. Medical.

    Yah I believe John Hopkins over a traitor.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The US doesn’t have an 8% positivity rate 

    John Hopkins university updates positivity rate often.  Last week, US 8% plus.  This week, 5% plus.  But half of all states still have positivity rates over 5%.  As previously mentioned, thanks to vaccination US positivity rate is dropping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The US doesn’t have an 8% positivity rate 

    John Hopkins university updates positivity rate often.  Last week, US 8% plus.  This week, 5% plus.  But half of all states still have positivity rates over 5%.  As previously mentioned, thanks to vaccination US positivity rate is dropping.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2021 - 9:51 PM ET #75

    People in here still posting stats as if the “vaccine” actually prevents you from getting Covid.

    an_beatupan_beatupan_beatup

    Boy, they really did a mindfcuk on the people by calling it a “vaccine.”

    Damage done.

    As they and Pfizer’s profits say, “no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of plain people.”

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    People in here still posting stats as if the “vaccine” actually prevents you from getting Covid.

    an_beatupan_beatupan_beatup

    Boy, they really did a mindfcuk on the people by calling it a “vaccine.”

    Damage done.

    As they and Pfizer’s profits say, “no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of plain people.”

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