@chic-cardinals I don't need fucking data for masks. I put it on, I breath my own hot air after a short time. I know it's not healthy, I stop doing it. Intelligent is the new stupid. All you need is common sense and a rememberance of history. Of course you NEED data. Otherwise, your opinion is just an outlier opinion that disagrees with people THAT are using data and studies to back their opinion up. That is what you have to refute. You cannot convince someone just on your say-so. If your whole point is just to rant and vent frustration --- I get it -- and, carry on.
Pay attention. Data is just words the media feeds you. You gave no fucking idea about th truth. If it were so deadly and dangerous they wouldn't be using celebrities to try and sell the fear.
Gates money is in the cdc and all the vac manufacturers.
Yours is just pointless circular rhetoric.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@chic-cardinals I don't need fucking data for masks. I put it on, I breath my own hot air after a short time. I know it's not healthy, I stop doing it. Intelligent is the new stupid. All you need is common sense and a rememberance of history. Of course you NEED data. Otherwise, your opinion is just an outlier opinion that disagrees with people THAT are using data and studies to back their opinion up. That is what you have to refute. You cannot convince someone just on your say-so. If your whole point is just to rant and vent frustration --- I get it -- and, carry on.
Pay attention. Data is just words the media feeds you. You gave no fucking idea about th truth. If it were so deadly and dangerous they wouldn't be using celebrities to try and sell the fear.
Gates money is in the cdc and all the vac manufacturers.
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @chic-cardinals I don't need fucking data for masks. I put it on, I breath my own hot air after a short time. I know it's not healthy, I stop doing it. Intelligent is the new stupid. All you need is common sense and a rememberance of history. Of course you NEED data. Otherwise, your opinion is just an outlier opinion that disagrees with people THAT are using data and studies to back their opinion up. That is what you have to refute. You cannot convince someone just on your say-so. If your whole point is just to rant and vent frustration --- I get it -- and, carry on. Pay attention. Data is just words the media feeds you. You gave no fucking idea about th truth. If it were so deadly and dangerous they wouldn't be using celebrities to try and sell the fear. Gates money is in the cdc and all the vac manufacturers. Yours is just pointless circular rhetoric.
Data are units of information, often numeric, that are collected through observation. In a more technical sense, data are a set of values of qualitative or quantitativevariables about one or more persons or objects, while a datum (singular of data) is a single value of a single variable.
So, by definition, data are NOT just words the media feeds me.
I do not think you understand logic or reasoning because you accuse me of faulty logic. It may be faulty -- BUT not faulty because it is circular.
Fooling someone with circular reasoning would require correctly assuming that they already believe that your conclusion is true. This for sure is NOT the case.
The usual example given:
The premise of this argument (that doing drugs is illegal) is the same as the reasoning (it’s against the law).
This argument is circular because it returns to the beginning: It’s against the law to do drugs because doing drugs is illegal, and, it's illegal to do drugs because it’s against the law. The listener needs some additional evidence to escape the circular reasoning, regardless of whether or not the claim is true.
This is NOT what I am doing; yet, it IS what you are doing. I gave the additional evidence. My whole point to you is that you did NOT give the additional information.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @chic-cardinals I don't need fucking data for masks. I put it on, I breath my own hot air after a short time. I know it's not healthy, I stop doing it. Intelligent is the new stupid. All you need is common sense and a rememberance of history. Of course you NEED data. Otherwise, your opinion is just an outlier opinion that disagrees with people THAT are using data and studies to back their opinion up. That is what you have to refute. You cannot convince someone just on your say-so. If your whole point is just to rant and vent frustration --- I get it -- and, carry on. Pay attention. Data is just words the media feeds you. You gave no fucking idea about th truth. If it were so deadly and dangerous they wouldn't be using celebrities to try and sell the fear. Gates money is in the cdc and all the vac manufacturers. Yours is just pointless circular rhetoric.
Data are units of information, often numeric, that are collected through observation. In a more technical sense, data are a set of values of qualitative or quantitativevariables about one or more persons or objects, while a datum (singular of data) is a single value of a single variable.
So, by definition, data are NOT just words the media feeds me.
I do not think you understand logic or reasoning because you accuse me of faulty logic. It may be faulty -- BUT not faulty because it is circular.
Fooling someone with circular reasoning would require correctly assuming that they already believe that your conclusion is true. This for sure is NOT the case.
The usual example given:
The premise of this argument (that doing drugs is illegal) is the same as the reasoning (it’s against the law).
This argument is circular because it returns to the beginning: It’s against the law to do drugs because doing drugs is illegal, and, it's illegal to do drugs because it’s against the law. The listener needs some additional evidence to escape the circular reasoning, regardless of whether or not the claim is true.
This is NOT what I am doing; yet, it IS what you are doing. I gave the additional evidence. My whole point to you is that you did NOT give the additional information.
The non stop burial around the world in mass graves is where proof in the pudding so to speak ######################### Lol shill or complete idiot. There's no mass graves.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
The non stop burial around the world in mass graves is where proof in the pudding so to speak ######################### Lol shill or complete idiot. There's no mass graves.
this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen.
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this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen.
this is traffic but an insignificant digit to 30000 death toll on a world stage. The mask if air tight can clog but the chances of a paper cloth mask creating a true seal is not realistic.
Mn95 full face separators clean shaved and a fit test is best possible protection.
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this is traffic but an insignificant digit to 30000 death toll on a world stage. The mask if air tight can clog but the chances of a paper cloth mask creating a true seal is not realistic.
Mn95 full face separators clean shaved and a fit test is best possible protection.
L this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen.
Dear God you're a blithering idiot. This is all Propaganda. This is all staged and or digital fakes. Or they show you footage of something and give it a fake story. You're an Idiot.
Lol at referencing cnn. All national news is propaganda
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
L this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen.
Dear God you're a blithering idiot. This is all Propaganda. This is all staged and or digital fakes. Or they show you footage of something and give it a fake story. You're an Idiot.
Lol at referencing cnn. All national news is propaganda
Detox Operation Mockingbird is still active in my opinion. The PTB might be using a different name. There are montages of local news affiliates leading with the same phraseology and the same lead in story. Very powerful method of dispensing disinformation and propaganda.
Operation Mockingbird is mentioned once in awhile in our current news environment but not discussed much in the news sources I use. The links below are for 'Operation Mockingbird' deniers.
Detox Operation Mockingbird is still active in my opinion. The PTB might be using a different name. There are montages of local news affiliates leading with the same phraseology and the same lead in story. Very powerful method of dispensing disinformation and propaganda.
Operation Mockingbird is mentioned once in awhile in our current news environment but not discussed much in the news sources I use. The links below are for 'Operation Mockingbird' deniers.
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: L this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen. Dear God you're a blithering idiot. This is all Propaganda. This is all staged and or digital fakes. Or they show you footage of something and give it a fake story. You're an Idiot. Lol at referencing cnn. All national news is propaganda
It's ok denial is a ancient coping skill.
Here your meds..
I know I know those mean democrats are fooling everyone. And being bullies....
You get an in the morning champ why don't you listen to fox news radio or the ball game on am....
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: L this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen. Dear God you're a blithering idiot. This is all Propaganda. This is all staged and or digital fakes. Or they show you footage of something and give it a fake story. You're an Idiot. Lol at referencing cnn. All national news is propaganda
It's ok denial is a ancient coping skill.
Here your meds..
I know I know those mean democrats are fooling everyone. And being bullies....
You get an in the morning champ why don't you listen to fox news radio or the ball game on am....
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: L this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen. Dear God you're a blithering idiot. This is all Propaganda. This is all staged and or digital fakes. Or they show you footage of something and give it a fake story. You're an Idiot. Lol at referencing cnn. All national news is propaganda It's ok denial is a ancient coping skill. Here your meds.. I know I know those mean democrats are fooling everyone. And being bullies.... You get an in the morning champ why don't you listen to fox news radio or the ball game on am....
Do you pay attention at all? I said all national news is propaganda. All govt is a lie. And reach for cliche bipartisan insults.
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: L this is mass creations the smog and air quality demands a mask with or without covid the air pollution the ongoing burning and deforestation can lead to lack of oxygen in the long term too many guppies in a small bowl and they die of affixation .... lack of oxygen. Dear God you're a blithering idiot. This is all Propaganda. This is all staged and or digital fakes. Or they show you footage of something and give it a fake story. You're an Idiot. Lol at referencing cnn. All national news is propaganda It's ok denial is a ancient coping skill. Here your meds.. I know I know those mean democrats are fooling everyone. And being bullies.... You get an in the morning champ why don't you listen to fox news radio or the ball game on am....
Do you pay attention at all? I said all national news is propaganda. All govt is a lie. And reach for cliche bipartisan insults.
Journal of medical internet research found exposure to conservative media increases covid conspiracy beliefs and lead to mask and vaccine hesitancy. The consensus from public health officials is clear. Masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccines save millions of lives worldwide.
However watchdog Media matters for America has found Fox news has run a misinformation campaign 547 times in last 13 weeks against covid science. Politicizing and dismissal of public health measures or covid data. Unfair criticisms of public health officials. Attacking masks and vaccines. Misrepresentation of basic facts. Fox misleading coverage and false statements dissuade Americans from getting vaccination and following Center for disease control guidelines necessary to get US out of pandemic.
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Journal of medical internet research found exposure to conservative media increases covid conspiracy beliefs and lead to mask and vaccine hesitancy. The consensus from public health officials is clear. Masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccines save millions of lives worldwide.
However watchdog Media matters for America has found Fox news has run a misinformation campaign 547 times in last 13 weeks against covid science. Politicizing and dismissal of public health measures or covid data. Unfair criticisms of public health officials. Attacking masks and vaccines. Misrepresentation of basic facts. Fox misleading coverage and false statements dissuade Americans from getting vaccination and following Center for disease control guidelines necessary to get US out of pandemic.
Journal of medical internet research found exposure to conservative media increases covid conspiracy beliefs and lead to mask and vaccine hesitancy. The consensus from public health officials is clear. Masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccines save millions of lives worldwide. However watchdog Media matters for America has found Fox news has run a misinformation campaign 547 times in last 13 weeks against covid science. Politicizing and dismissal of public health measures or covid data. Unfair criticisms of public health officials. Attacking masks and vaccines. Misrepresentation of basic facts. Fox misleading coverage and false statements dissuade Americans from getting vaccination and following Center for disease control guidelines necessary to get US out of pandemic.
Complete fiction. Th misinformation is govt.. if this do deadly, why do they need to keep convincing you?
Has nothing to do with fox- , they are just the propaganda counter point
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Journal of medical internet research found exposure to conservative media increases covid conspiracy beliefs and lead to mask and vaccine hesitancy. The consensus from public health officials is clear. Masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccines save millions of lives worldwide. However watchdog Media matters for America has found Fox news has run a misinformation campaign 547 times in last 13 weeks against covid science. Politicizing and dismissal of public health measures or covid data. Unfair criticisms of public health officials. Attacking masks and vaccines. Misrepresentation of basic facts. Fox misleading coverage and false statements dissuade Americans from getting vaccination and following Center for disease control guidelines necessary to get US out of pandemic.
Complete fiction. Th misinformation is govt.. if this do deadly, why do they need to keep convincing you?
Has nothing to do with fox- , they are just the propaganda counter point
Journal of medical internet research found exposure to conservative media increases covid conspiracy beliefs and lead to mask and vaccine hesitancy. The consensus from public health officials is clear. Masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccines save millions of lives worldwide. However watchdog Media matters for America has found Fox news has run a misinformation campaign 547 times in last 13 weeks against covid science. Politicizing and dismissal of public health measures or covid data. Unfair criticisms of public health officials. Attacking masks and vaccines. Misrepresentation of basic facts. Fox misleading coverage and false statements dissuade Americans from getting vaccination and following Center for disease control guidelines necessary to get US out of pandemic.
Reality: Blue states had the worst numbers during the pandemic BY FAR.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Journal of medical internet research found exposure to conservative media increases covid conspiracy beliefs and lead to mask and vaccine hesitancy. The consensus from public health officials is clear. Masks, social distancing, lockdowns and vaccines save millions of lives worldwide. However watchdog Media matters for America has found Fox news has run a misinformation campaign 547 times in last 13 weeks against covid science. Politicizing and dismissal of public health measures or covid data. Unfair criticisms of public health officials. Attacking masks and vaccines. Misrepresentation of basic facts. Fox misleading coverage and false statements dissuade Americans from getting vaccination and following Center for disease control guidelines necessary to get US out of pandemic.
Reality: Blue states had the worst numbers during the pandemic BY FAR.
Just how big a business has Covid become? 424 million PCR tests at a national average of $159 a test (probably low) equals $70 BILLION.
We just spent 20 trillion for two absolute nothing conflicts. No not wars it takes congress to declare a war and trust they have not done that since declaring war against Japan and Germany 80 years ago.
We just blew another 10 trillion making it so people like mitt Romney and Donald Trump pay nothing in taxes just attourney fees and accountants .
We blew an additional 6 trillion with last jobs act for 2 trillion in a futile way to restart an economy. And we have yet to raise any revenue. The Republican controlled house and Senate has not done anything but talk for 2 decades . Can not pass a budget just bicker if they are going to raise a debt ceiling.
They can not pass within weighs and means a path forward for said budget they now differ this task to treasury.
They did get another 130 billion a month line of credit from the federal reserve in bond purchases for debt.
But reality it will just be squandered the revenue the government now takes in built on the backs of lower middle class singles.
And social security and Medicare it a payroll deduction but it goes to the or a general fund quarterly.
4 trillion dollars. The sad fact is government under Trump last year blew 7 trillion.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Just how big a business has Covid become? 424 million PCR tests at a national average of $159 a test (probably low) equals $70 BILLION.
We just spent 20 trillion for two absolute nothing conflicts. No not wars it takes congress to declare a war and trust they have not done that since declaring war against Japan and Germany 80 years ago.
We just blew another 10 trillion making it so people like mitt Romney and Donald Trump pay nothing in taxes just attourney fees and accountants .
We blew an additional 6 trillion with last jobs act for 2 trillion in a futile way to restart an economy. And we have yet to raise any revenue. The Republican controlled house and Senate has not done anything but talk for 2 decades . Can not pass a budget just bicker if they are going to raise a debt ceiling.
They can not pass within weighs and means a path forward for said budget they now differ this task to treasury.
They did get another 130 billion a month line of credit from the federal reserve in bond purchases for debt.
But reality it will just be squandered the revenue the government now takes in built on the backs of lower middle class singles.
And social security and Medicare it a payroll deduction but it goes to the or a general fund quarterly.
4 trillion dollars. The sad fact is government under Trump last year blew 7 trillion.
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