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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 10:02 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    dude, that's three straight posts of you masterbating to a guy who was convicted for being a racist in a criminal proceeding and forced the county taxpayers to pay millions because he was a racist after losing in a separate legal proceeding. this isn't a klan rally in here. how about containing your white supremacy to one post at a time. I think you've been warned about this already. 



     
    Please give me the exact line lovethedough wrote that makes you think he's a white supremacist from this thread only.  Thanks.

    Profiling is a must in today's world sorry I'm not PC like you want.  I can think for myself thanks.  Ask people in our government who fight terrorism or immigration on the front lines if it's important.  You obviously don't know of anyone who does this for a living.  Your fake rage is pathetic.  This was about political payback from that POS Obama and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    dude, that's three straight posts of you masterbating to a guy who was convicted for being a racist in a criminal proceeding and forced the county taxpayers to pay millions because he was a racist after losing in a separate legal proceeding. this isn't a klan rally in here. how about containing your white supremacy to one post at a time. I think you've been warned about this already. 



     
    Please give me the exact line lovethedough wrote that makes you think he's a white supremacist from this thread only.  Thanks.

    Profiling is a must in today's world sorry I'm not PC like you want.  I can think for myself thanks.  Ask people in our government who fight terrorism or immigration on the front lines if it's important.  You obviously don't know of anyone who does this for a living.  Your fake rage is pathetic.  This was about political payback from that POS Obama and you know it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 10:22 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Please give me the exact line lovethedough wrote that makes you think he's a white supremacist from this thread only.  Thanks.

    Profiling is a must in today's world sorry I'm not PC like you want.  I can think for myself thanks.  Ask people in our government who fight terrorism or immigration on the front lines if it's important.  You obviously don't know of anyone who does this for a living.  Your fake rage is pathetic.  This was about political payback from that POS Obama and you know it.


    as i mentioned, it's not an exact line, it's an entire post where lovethedough expressed his white supremacy in a different htread.  several people saw t, dj warned him that he was on the verge of getting banned for it and lovethedough acknowledged it and lovethedough said he'd do better.  it's not really up for debate and i'd be surprised if lovethedough denied it.  i'm not that interetsed in hunting down the thread for you.  if you want to find it, it's probably in one of the threads started by scalabrine or related to black people that set white supremacists off.  this thread is just an extension of that as a white supremacist would naturally be a huge fan of someone who has been found to be a racist in multiple court proceedings. that's why locvethedough wrote four consecutive posts about it in this thread and that's what i commented on here.

    as to your other comments, it's funny that tyou say i don't know anyone who fights terrorism or immigration as i'm guessing im the only or one of the few in here who know many.  since i've worked in criminal law and with people in immigration for about two decades now. 

    but none of that really matters.  arpaio was found guilty in a criminal court for being a racist and found responsible for being a racist in a civil proceeding costing the taxpayers millions.  legally and in our society, there's really not any more of an objective standard in this country to determine someone is a racist than that.  you guys can whine about that and throw out your conspiracy theories and deflect to obama this and obama that, but it's already been decided twice by the methods we use in this country to decide such things.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Please give me the exact line lovethedough wrote that makes you think he's a white supremacist from this thread only.  Thanks.

    Profiling is a must in today's world sorry I'm not PC like you want.  I can think for myself thanks.  Ask people in our government who fight terrorism or immigration on the front lines if it's important.  You obviously don't know of anyone who does this for a living.  Your fake rage is pathetic.  This was about political payback from that POS Obama and you know it.


    as i mentioned, it's not an exact line, it's an entire post where lovethedough expressed his white supremacy in a different htread.  several people saw t, dj warned him that he was on the verge of getting banned for it and lovethedough acknowledged it and lovethedough said he'd do better.  it's not really up for debate and i'd be surprised if lovethedough denied it.  i'm not that interetsed in hunting down the thread for you.  if you want to find it, it's probably in one of the threads started by scalabrine or related to black people that set white supremacists off.  this thread is just an extension of that as a white supremacist would naturally be a huge fan of someone who has been found to be a racist in multiple court proceedings. that's why locvethedough wrote four consecutive posts about it in this thread and that's what i commented on here.

    as to your other comments, it's funny that tyou say i don't know anyone who fights terrorism or immigration as i'm guessing im the only or one of the few in here who know many.  since i've worked in criminal law and with people in immigration for about two decades now. 

    but none of that really matters.  arpaio was found guilty in a criminal court for being a racist and found responsible for being a racist in a civil proceeding costing the taxpayers millions.  legally and in our society, there's really not any more of an objective standard in this country to determine someone is a racist than that.  you guys can whine about that and throw out your conspiracy theories and deflect to obama this and obama that, but it's already been decided twice by the methods we use in this country to decide such things.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 10:56 AM ET #28

    Club, They could not covict with a trial by jury. It is as simple as that. I don't need a Harvard education to figure that out. Sheriff Joe was in a situation that would put a smile on the face of Joseph Stalin.
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    Club, They could not covict with a trial by jury. It is as simple as that. I don't need a Harvard education to figure that out. Sheriff Joe was in a situation that would put a smile on the face of Joseph Stalin.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 11:06 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Club, They could not covict with a trial by jury. It is as simple as that. I don't need a Harvard education to figure that out. Sheriff Joe was in a situation that would put a smile on the face of Joseph Stalin.


    sundance, you can have that opinion, but the facts are that a judge ordered him to stop racial profiling, he didn't listen and was convicted of contempt, he lost in a civil proceeding and there was a separate federal monitoring of his department that cost the taxpayers a bunch of money.  he's been found to use his office in a racist manner in all sorts of ways by different people or agencies.  i don't think he's ever won on this issue no matter who was the judge.  i don't know how else we would make a determination other than it being said over and over again in our established venues for this kind of thing.

    people can be in denial about him, but i'm sure the AZ taxpayers who have paid millions and millions for his behavior get it. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Club, They could not covict with a trial by jury. It is as simple as that. I don't need a Harvard education to figure that out. Sheriff Joe was in a situation that would put a smile on the face of Joseph Stalin.


    sundance, you can have that opinion, but the facts are that a judge ordered him to stop racial profiling, he didn't listen and was convicted of contempt, he lost in a civil proceeding and there was a separate federal monitoring of his department that cost the taxpayers a bunch of money.  he's been found to use his office in a racist manner in all sorts of ways by different people or agencies.  i don't think he's ever won on this issue no matter who was the judge.  i don't know how else we would make a determination other than it being said over and over again in our established venues for this kind of thing.

    people can be in denial about him, but i'm sure the AZ taxpayers who have paid millions and millions for his behavior get it. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 12:32 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Club, They could not covict with a trial by jury. It is as simple as that. I don't need a Harvard education to figure that out. Sheriff Joe was in a situation that would put a smile on the face of Joseph Stalin.

    If you get off right wing blog sites and actually research the why, you would find your answer.

    The trial by judge here was not some Obama payback, that is so absurd and wacked out I cannot even believe you really believe that.

    Research it....sheesh do some generic, unbiased research and you will find out the answer. Stop listening to biased media sources and find out answers for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Club, They could not covict with a trial by jury. It is as simple as that. I don't need a Harvard education to figure that out. Sheriff Joe was in a situation that would put a smile on the face of Joseph Stalin.

    If you get off right wing blog sites and actually research the why, you would find your answer.

    The trial by judge here was not some Obama payback, that is so absurd and wacked out I cannot even believe you really believe that.

    Research it....sheesh do some generic, unbiased research and you will find out the answer. Stop listening to biased media sources and find out answers for yourself.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    If you get off right wing blog sites and actually research the why, you would find your answer.

    The trial by judge here was not some Obama payback, that is so absurd and wacked out I cannot even believe you really believe that.

    Research it....sheesh do some generic, unbiased research and you will find out the answer. Stop listening to biased media sources and find out answers for yourself.

    What question?  What questions did he have?

    Why be so negative and condescending to folks.  If you know the answer to his questions or the links, why not just post them or explain it coherently---instead of snapping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    If you get off right wing blog sites and actually research the why, you would find your answer.

    The trial by judge here was not some Obama payback, that is so absurd and wacked out I cannot even believe you really believe that.

    Research it....sheesh do some generic, unbiased research and you will find out the answer. Stop listening to biased media sources and find out answers for yourself.

    What question?  What questions did he have?

    Why be so negative and condescending to folks.  If you know the answer to his questions or the links, why not just post them or explain it coherently---instead of snapping?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    What question?  What questions did he have?

    Why be so negative and condescending to folks.  If you know the answer to his questions or the links, why not just post them or explain it coherently---instead of snapping?


    Pot kettle..

    Read his message, there lies your answer big guy.

    When someone comes in and throws blanket generalities which are erroneous like sundance did, what do you think is going to happen that we give handshakes and back patting? I will leave that up to you.

    With regards to giving the answer, I did that many times above if you were following the thread. It is very very obvious sundance has no idea what he is talking about in every single reply he makes...he is uninformed and gaining his information from biased sources...maybe you are the same I dont know. At SOME point a person needs to research for themselves and form their own opinions if they really want answers. sundance needs to learn how to research and find out if the sources he lazily relies on are really legitimate or not. In this case they are not, in the cases earlier in the thread they were not.

    Do you know the answer to the trial by judge issue? Was it some Obama payback blah blah blah???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    What question?  What questions did he have?

    Why be so negative and condescending to folks.  If you know the answer to his questions or the links, why not just post them or explain it coherently---instead of snapping?


    Pot kettle..

    Read his message, there lies your answer big guy.

    When someone comes in and throws blanket generalities which are erroneous like sundance did, what do you think is going to happen that we give handshakes and back patting? I will leave that up to you.

    With regards to giving the answer, I did that many times above if you were following the thread. It is very very obvious sundance has no idea what he is talking about in every single reply he makes...he is uninformed and gaining his information from biased sources...maybe you are the same I dont know. At SOME point a person needs to research for themselves and form their own opinions if they really want answers. sundance needs to learn how to research and find out if the sources he lazily relies on are really legitimate or not. In this case they are not, in the cases earlier in the thread they were not.

    Do you know the answer to the trial by judge issue? Was it some Obama payback blah blah blah???
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    If you get off right wing blog sites and actually research the why, you would find your answer.

    The trial by judge here was not some Obama payback, that is so absurd and wacked out I cannot even believe you really believe that.

    Research it....sheesh do some generic, unbiased research and you will find out the answer. Stop listening to biased media sources and find out answers for yourself.

    Perhaps, there will be another polls after Donald Trump's pardon on Arpaio. I suspect that 33 or 35% of Trump base will cheer on his decision of the pardon, this 33 or 35 will stick no matter what. And Donald J Trump got elected with low approval rating in last Nov., so maybe that's what this country is all about until proven other wise in 2018 mid term or 2020.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    If you get off right wing blog sites and actually research the why, you would find your answer.

    The trial by judge here was not some Obama payback, that is so absurd and wacked out I cannot even believe you really believe that.

    Research it....sheesh do some generic, unbiased research and you will find out the answer. Stop listening to biased media sources and find out answers for yourself.

    Perhaps, there will be another polls after Donald Trump's pardon on Arpaio. I suspect that 33 or 35% of Trump base will cheer on his decision of the pardon, this 33 or 35 will stick no matter what. And Donald J Trump got elected with low approval rating in last Nov., so maybe that's what this country is all about until proven other wise in 2018 mid term or 2020.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 2:02 PM ET #34

    there's no right to a jury trial in a case where the potential penalty is as low as it was in this case.


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    there's no right to a jury trial in a case where the potential penalty is as low as it was in this case.


     
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    The link below is the story of Sheriff Joe vs  the Obama leftovers at the DOJ. It is written by Jerome Corsi. The gist of the article is Sheriff Joe was intentionally  charged under the wrong statute to preclude him from having a trial by jury. Corsi is genius. This should/will put all of the Leftist deceit to rest regarding the pardon of Sheriff Joe. Great read! Here you go!

    https://www.infowars.com/where-is-trump-sheriff-arpaio-asks/


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    The link below is the story of Sheriff Joe vs  the Obama leftovers at the DOJ. It is written by Jerome Corsi. The gist of the article is Sheriff Joe was intentionally  charged under the wrong statute to preclude him from having a trial by jury. Corsi is genius. This should/will put all of the Leftist deceit to rest regarding the pardon of Sheriff Joe. Great read! Here you go!

    https://www.infowars.com/where-is-trump-sheriff-arpaio-asks/


     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 2:43 PM ET #36

    To me, this is plain & simple.

    When you accept the pardon, you also accept the guilt of your actions. If you are innocent, why accept the guilt?

    Pardons are usually given after a convicted criminal has accepted their responsibility in committing the crime & has demonstrated good conduct over an extended period of time. Neither has taken place in this instance. 

    Like wall says, do a little research so you can better understand the situation.
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    To me, this is plain & simple.

    When you accept the pardon, you also accept the guilt of your actions. If you are innocent, why accept the guilt?

    Pardons are usually given after a convicted criminal has accepted their responsibility in committing the crime & has demonstrated good conduct over an extended period of time. Neither has taken place in this instance. 

    Like wall says, do a little research so you can better understand the situation.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 2:45 PM ET #37

    The racist prez pardoning another racist...what a shock
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    Amazing how all liberals are completely obsessed with the color of people's skin.  
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 3:18 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    there's no right to a jury trial in a case where the potential penalty is as low as it was in this case.



    Bingo....

    That is the answer, but some people would rather make silly liberals vs conservatives and Obama comments which they will do in most any situation because that is their bias. 

    Yeah the judge in this case intentionally sabotaged Arpaio and was one of Obama's favorite campaign contributors...oh and he also likes having his rulings thrown out and he does not like his job very much.

    What a joke..
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    there's no right to a jury trial in a case where the potential penalty is as low as it was in this case.



    Bingo....

    That is the answer, but some people would rather make silly liberals vs conservatives and Obama comments which they will do in most any situation because that is their bias. 

    Yeah the judge in this case intentionally sabotaged Arpaio and was one of Obama's favorite campaign contributors...oh and he also likes having his rulings thrown out and he does not like his job very much.

    What a joke..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The link below is the story of Sheriff Joe vs  the Obama leftovers at the DOJ. It is written by Jerome Corsi. The gist of the article is Sheriff Joe was intentionally  charged under the wrong statute to preclude him from having a trial by jury. Corsi is genius. This should/will put all of the Leftist deceit to rest regarding the pardon of Sheriff Joe. Great read! Here you go!

    https://www.infowars.com/where-is-trump-sheriff-arpaio-asks/



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    thanks for the laugh Sundance 
    Another entertaining post brought to  you by Sundance

    oh before I forgot  ..

    You stated that disgraced Sheriff  Joe Arpaio 'might' have proven that Obama birth certificate was fake.

    what is stopping Joe from proving Obama birth certificate was fake

    a birther president decided to pardon a birther sheriff

    a racist catering to another racist  
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    The link below is the story of Sheriff Joe vs  the Obama leftovers at the DOJ. It is written by Jerome Corsi. The gist of the article is Sheriff Joe was intentionally  charged under the wrong statute to preclude him from having a trial by jury. Corsi is genius. This should/will put all of the Leftist deceit to rest regarding the pardon of Sheriff Joe. Great read! Here you go!

    https://www.infowars.com/where-is-trump-sheriff-arpaio-asks/



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    thanks for the laugh Sundance 
    Another entertaining post brought to  you by Sundance

    oh before I forgot  ..

    You stated that disgraced Sheriff  Joe Arpaio 'might' have proven that Obama birth certificate was fake.

    what is stopping Joe from proving Obama birth certificate was fake

    a birther president decided to pardon a birther sheriff

    a racist catering to another racist  
     
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    There is a lot of truth stretching by the hard core liberals in this thread. The immature , petulant and snobbish Previous President is/was very capable of revenge and payback. Take a look at Dinesh D'Souza. That was a political takedown by Barack Hussein Obama.
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    One of the favorite words libs use when they have no coherant message or are being trounced/pounded by an opponent is 'racist'. Racist has no power any more. None at all. This thread is epic/historic. Needs to be nominated for the Covers HOF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    There is a lot of truth stretching by the hard core liberals in this thread. The immature , petulant and snobbish Previous President is/was very capable of revenge and payback.
    Take a look at Dinesh D'Souza. That was a political takedown by Barack Hussein Obama.


    D'souza entered a guilty plea to a charge that he used straw donors to make $20,000 illegal contributions to republican senate candidate Wendy Long in 2012.

    At the court, D’Souza admitted he knew what he did was against the law.

    “I knew that causing a campaign contribution to be made in the name of another was wrong and something the law forbids,” D’Souza said, according to Newsday. “I deeply regret my conduct.”


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    There is a lot of truth stretching by the hard core liberals in this thread. The immature , petulant and snobbish Previous President is/was very capable of revenge and payback.
    Take a look at Dinesh D'Souza. That was a political takedown by Barack Hussein Obama.


    D'souza entered a guilty plea to a charge that he used straw donors to make $20,000 illegal contributions to republican senate candidate Wendy Long in 2012.

    At the court, D’Souza admitted he knew what he did was against the law.

    “I knew that causing a campaign contribution to be made in the name of another was wrong and something the law forbids,” D’Souza said, according to Newsday. “I deeply regret my conduct.”


     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 4:48 PM ET #44

    sundance,

    Did you read what Clubdirt wrote? Did you spend even 30 seconds looking for yourself or are you really only interested in liberals vs conservatives and are looking to pick a fight to hold your political biases?

    Did you even care that there is no conspiracy, that this has nothing to do with Obama? At some point you need to learn to educate yourself and stop relying on biased, inaccurate sources that are polluting your mind. I actually think you dont care about reality and you want to rationalize your biases because it validates your views. It is the only explanation I can see when someone hands you the answer and you still continue babbling about conservatives vs liberals like this.
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    sundance,

    Did you read what Clubdirt wrote? Did you spend even 30 seconds looking for yourself or are you really only interested in liberals vs conservatives and are looking to pick a fight to hold your political biases?

    Did you even care that there is no conspiracy, that this has nothing to do with Obama? At some point you need to learn to educate yourself and stop relying on biased, inaccurate sources that are polluting your mind. I actually think you dont care about reality and you want to rationalize your biases because it validates your views. It is the only explanation I can see when someone hands you the answer and you still continue babbling about conservatives vs liberals like this.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 4:51 PM ET #45

    Hilary Clinton gives Putin 20 per cent of our Uranium and BHO is putting D'Souza in prison because the childish. petulant and immature President did not like the documentary D'Souza made. You can not make this stuff up.
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    The following is what I know. The writers, newsmen and broadcasters that represent the Left are liars and deceivers. I have absolutely no respect or trust in any of them. I would never research anything from their point of view. You would never be allowed to hear/see the genius of Marc Levin on CNN with Jake Tapper.
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2017 - 5:31 PM ET #48

    Begin impeachment proceedings against Circuit Judge Susan Bolton. In fact we need to start doing that virtually every day around the country against judges who legislate from the bench.


    Begin impeachment proceedings against Circuit Judge Susan Bolton. In fact we need to start doing that virtually every day around the country against judges who legislate from the bench



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    Begin impeachment proceedings against Circuit Judge Susan Bolton. In fact we need to start doing that virtually every day around the country against judges who legislate from the bench



     
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    We can start with the 9th Circuit.
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    I know liberals don't like other peoples points of view, but this activist judge Bolton should be charged with obstruction of justice, for preventing a law enforcement officer from performing his lawful and sworn duty.


    if Arapaio would accept the position President Trump should appoint him as head of Homeland Security. The Sheriff's proven methods of arresting and removing illegals would make a great national model, and a conservative Supreme Court would probably have no problem with it. Sheriff Joe also encouraged self deportation by striking fear into the dark heart of the illegal community, saving tax payers millions of dollars.

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    I know liberals don't like other peoples points of view, but this activist judge Bolton should be charged with obstruction of justice, for preventing a law enforcement officer from performing his lawful and sworn duty.


    if Arapaio would accept the position President Trump should appoint him as head of Homeland Security. The Sheriff's proven methods of arresting and removing illegals would make a great national model, and a conservative Supreme Court would probably have no problem with it. Sheriff Joe also encouraged self deportation by striking fear into the dark heart of the illegal community, saving tax payers millions of dollars.

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