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    THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP OFFICIAL CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY WUHAN VIRUS THREAD

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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 6:27 AM ET #26

    What's the word PB. I sent you a PM.

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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 8:18 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I guess I am seeing different things than you with regards to Trump. I see a bully who lies and blames, never takes responsibility and has no respect for anyone but himself. Taking apart others with verbal abuses and insults is not winning at all in fact it is losing. He is never able to differ an opinion with someone and not make it personal.  I watched a daily presser yesterday and the reporter asked about clarification on something that he said and Trump twice insulted the person, not a correction or a respectful disagreement but instead two personal pathetic insults. I have zero respect for people who cannot disagree and hold respect at the same time. Trump is a punk, a thug and a little ego jerk. He lacks leadership skills and the ability to make things about others and not about him. I saw this flyer in the mail this week about the virus and about procedures and the flyer had to be labeled "President Trump's" Corona virus guidelines blah blah and Trump wants his signature on the freebie checks to the country. What a psychotic lunatic....(not you)

    I agree with everything.

    I will say one thing in Trump's favor...the mysterious amounts of sudden deaths of young, healthy, public serving democrats has significantly reduced since Trump blocked a Clinton to acquire the oval office again an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I guess I am seeing different things than you with regards to Trump. I see a bully who lies and blames, never takes responsibility and has no respect for anyone but himself. Taking apart others with verbal abuses and insults is not winning at all in fact it is losing. He is never able to differ an opinion with someone and not make it personal.  I watched a daily presser yesterday and the reporter asked about clarification on something that he said and Trump twice insulted the person, not a correction or a respectful disagreement but instead two personal pathetic insults. I have zero respect for people who cannot disagree and hold respect at the same time. Trump is a punk, a thug and a little ego jerk. He lacks leadership skills and the ability to make things about others and not about him. I saw this flyer in the mail this week about the virus and about procedures and the flyer had to be labeled "President Trump's" Corona virus guidelines blah blah and Trump wants his signature on the freebie checks to the country. What a psychotic lunatic....(not you)

    I agree with everything.

    I will say one thing in Trump's favor...the mysterious amounts of sudden deaths of young, healthy, public serving democrats has significantly reduced since Trump blocked a Clinton to acquire the oval office again an_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 11:40 AM ET #28

    Remember when Bush waited 7 minutes to act after hearing about 9/11? Seems like small potatoes now.

     

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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 11:41 AM ET #29

    Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State.

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    Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 11:47 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State.

    Remember folks, Trump has never been linked to murderan_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State.

    Remember folks, Trump has never been linked to murderan_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 11:47 AM ET #31

    "We sent thousands of generators to New York ... the people in New York never distribute it the generators."

     

    Do they need generators?

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    "We sent thousands of generators to New York ... the people in New York never distribute it the generators."

     

    Do they need generators?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 12:15 PM ET #32

    This thread isnt about Trump but if you watch him on these snoozer pressers he reads from a paper its so easy to see when he cant help himself and he has to improvise to lie and distort information. It is like his nose wrinkles and he squints trying to think of that adjective he can toss in to improve the spin on what he is reading...its all improv and its all lies. 

    The guy just cant help himself, he cant stick to the message he needs to deliver and this spur of the moment garbage is pure crap, its exaggerated lies and it is embarrassing. Leaders do not need to add lies and improvise to make themselves look better. Leaders do not need pats on the back and media acceptance. Real leaders are people who do not think of themselves when making decisions. Trump is the absolute worst leader in the history of the USA.

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    This thread isnt about Trump but if you watch him on these snoozer pressers he reads from a paper its so easy to see when he cant help himself and he has to improvise to lie and distort information. It is like his nose wrinkles and he squints trying to think of that adjective he can toss in to improve the spin on what he is reading...its all improv and its all lies. 

    The guy just cant help himself, he cant stick to the message he needs to deliver and this spur of the moment garbage is pure crap, its exaggerated lies and it is embarrassing. Leaders do not need to add lies and improvise to make themselves look better. Leaders do not need pats on the back and media acceptance. Real leaders are people who do not think of themselves when making decisions. Trump is the absolute worst leader in the history of the USA.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 12:58 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    This thread isnt about Trump but if you watch him on these snoozer pressers he reads from a paper its so easy to see when he cant help himself and he has to improvise to lie and distort information. It is like his nose wrinkles and he squints trying to think of that adjective he can toss in to improve the spin on what he is reading...its all improv and its all lies.  The guy just cant help himself, he cant stick to the message he needs to deliver and this spur of the moment garbage is pure crap, its exaggerated lies and it is embarrassing. Leaders do not need to add lies and improvise to make themselves look better. Leaders do not need pats on the back and media acceptance. Real leaders are people who do not think of themselves when making decisions. Trump is the absolute worst leader in the history of the USA.

    It's sick how he makes them all kiss his ass before they speak too! "Thank you for your unprecedented leadership"

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    This thread isnt about Trump but if you watch him on these snoozer pressers he reads from a paper its so easy to see when he cant help himself and he has to improvise to lie and distort information. It is like his nose wrinkles and he squints trying to think of that adjective he can toss in to improve the spin on what he is reading...its all improv and its all lies.  The guy just cant help himself, he cant stick to the message he needs to deliver and this spur of the moment garbage is pure crap, its exaggerated lies and it is embarrassing. Leaders do not need to add lies and improvise to make themselves look better. Leaders do not need pats on the back and media acceptance. Real leaders are people who do not think of themselves when making decisions. Trump is the absolute worst leader in the history of the USA.

    It's sick how he makes them all kiss his ass before they speak too! "Thank you for your unprecedented leadership"

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 1:08 PM ET #34

    Get used to it fellas because Homeboy will be our President until January 2025. 

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    Get used to it fellas because Homeboy will be our President until January 2025. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 1:29 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    "We sent thousands of generators to New York ... the people in New York never distribute it the generators."   Do they need generators?

    I bet you are voting for Biden, who constantly makes mistakes and clearly should not be allowed to run for office. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    "We sent thousands of generators to New York ... the people in New York never distribute it the generators."   Do they need generators?

    I bet you are voting for Biden, who constantly makes mistakes and clearly should not be allowed to run for office. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 1:32 PM ET #36

    Yeah the above two posts from this one show the mentality of America....give me what I want for my biases and who cares what that means.

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    Yeah the above two posts from this one show the mentality of America....give me what I want for my biases and who cares what that means.

    an_burn_money

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 2:09 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State. Remember folks, Trump has never been linked to murder

    You said no bullshit in this thread & what you present here about Seth Rich is bullshit.

    Either lead by example or why bother continuing the thread.

    This conspiracy was started by Roger Stone. In reality, this man was killed during a botched robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State. Remember folks, Trump has never been linked to murder

    You said no bullshit in this thread & what you present here about Seth Rich is bullshit.

    Either lead by example or why bother continuing the thread.

    This conspiracy was started by Roger Stone. In reality, this man was killed during a botched robbery.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 3:34 PM ET #38

    italians are starting to wake up from the CCP Virus 

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    italians are starting to wake up from the CCP Virus 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas502:

    italians are starting to wake up from the CCP Virus


    Youtube Italians seek war damages from China. 

    Hopefully we’ll do the same with CCP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas502:

    italians are starting to wake up from the CCP Virus


    Youtube Italians seek war damages from China. 

    Hopefully we’ll do the same with CCP

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 5:13 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I guess I am seeing different things than you with regards to Trump. I see a bully who lies and blames, never takes responsibility and has no respect for anyone but himself. Taking apart others with verbal abuses and insults is not winning at all in fact it is losing. He is never able to differ an opinion with someone and not make it personal.  I watched a daily presser yesterday and the reporter asked about clarification on something that he said and Trump twice insulted the person, not a correction or a respectful disagreement but instead two personal pathetic insults. I have zero respect for people who cannot disagree and hold respect at the same time. Trump is a punk, a thug and a little ego jerk. He lacks leadership skills and the ability to make things about others and not about him. I saw this flyer in the mail this week about the virus and about procedures and the flyer had to be labeled "President Trump's" Corona virus guidelines blah blah and Trump wants his signature on the freebie checks to the country. What a psychotic lunatic....(not you) You act like Trump started it. He did not. Since day 1 the media and the dems ave been trying to get rid of him and put him down, mostly for stupid stuff. He is attacked daily and even through all that, he is the one that people look at and question, like you are right now.
    Incredible anyone in this day and age can be so uninformed.  BOL in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I guess I am seeing different things than you with regards to Trump. I see a bully who lies and blames, never takes responsibility and has no respect for anyone but himself. Taking apart others with verbal abuses and insults is not winning at all in fact it is losing. He is never able to differ an opinion with someone and not make it personal.  I watched a daily presser yesterday and the reporter asked about clarification on something that he said and Trump twice insulted the person, not a correction or a respectful disagreement but instead two personal pathetic insults. I have zero respect for people who cannot disagree and hold respect at the same time. Trump is a punk, a thug and a little ego jerk. He lacks leadership skills and the ability to make things about others and not about him. I saw this flyer in the mail this week about the virus and about procedures and the flyer had to be labeled "President Trump's" Corona virus guidelines blah blah and Trump wants his signature on the freebie checks to the country. What a psychotic lunatic....(not you) You act like Trump started it. He did not. Since day 1 the media and the dems ave been trying to get rid of him and put him down, mostly for stupid stuff. He is attacked daily and even through all that, he is the one that people look at and question, like you are right now.
    Incredible anyone in this day and age can be so uninformed.  BOL in life.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2020 - 6:07 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I guess I am seeing different things than you with regards to Trump. I see a bully who lies and blames, never takes responsibility and has no respect for anyone but himself. Taking apart others with verbal abuses and insults is not winning at all in fact it is losing. He is never able to differ an opinion with someone and not make it personal.  I watched a daily presser yesterday and the reporter asked about clarification on something that he said and Trump twice insulted the person, not a correction or a respectful disagreement but instead two personal pathetic insults. I have zero respect for people who cannot disagree and hold respect at the same time. Trump is a punk, a thug and a little ego jerk. He lacks leadership skills and the ability to make things about others and not about him. I saw this flyer in the mail this week about the virus and about procedures and the flyer had to be labeled "President Trump's" Corona virus guidelines blah blah and Trump wants his signature on the freebie checks to the country. What a psychotic lunatic....(not you) You act like Trump started it. He did not. Since day 1 the media and the dems ave been trying to get rid of him and put him down, mostly for stupid stuff. He is attacked daily and even through all that, he is the one that people look at and question, like you are right now. Incredible anyone in this day and age can be so uninformed.  BOL in life.

    If you are telling me that I am misinformed, as in I am wrong about the left and media constantly attacking him, then you are misinformed and have been under a rock for 4 years.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I guess I am seeing different things than you with regards to Trump. I see a bully who lies and blames, never takes responsibility and has no respect for anyone but himself. Taking apart others with verbal abuses and insults is not winning at all in fact it is losing. He is never able to differ an opinion with someone and not make it personal.  I watched a daily presser yesterday and the reporter asked about clarification on something that he said and Trump twice insulted the person, not a correction or a respectful disagreement but instead two personal pathetic insults. I have zero respect for people who cannot disagree and hold respect at the same time. Trump is a punk, a thug and a little ego jerk. He lacks leadership skills and the ability to make things about others and not about him. I saw this flyer in the mail this week about the virus and about procedures and the flyer had to be labeled "President Trump's" Corona virus guidelines blah blah and Trump wants his signature on the freebie checks to the country. What a psychotic lunatic....(not you) You act like Trump started it. He did not. Since day 1 the media and the dems ave been trying to get rid of him and put him down, mostly for stupid stuff. He is attacked daily and even through all that, he is the one that people look at and question, like you are right now. Incredible anyone in this day and age can be so uninformed.  BOL in life.

    If you are telling me that I am misinformed, as in I am wrong about the left and media constantly attacking him, then you are misinformed and have been under a rock for 4 years.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    If you are telling me that I am misinformed, as in I am wrong about the left and media constantly attacking him, then you are misinformed and have been under a rock for 4 years.

    You have this backwards, Trump as a person has been attacking and abusing people for decades..he is the one who decided to enter politics and with specifically THIS position there is a requirement of respect and leadership for the person in the role. Trump is none of that...he feels entitled and at the same time he is mega sensitive but try and call him out on his abuses and you will be personally attacked.

    A leader needs to be above petty attacks but there is rarely a public appearance that Trump does not attack even when the person is doing nothing but asking a question or asking for clarification. He is never the better person always whining and complaining and blaming. Maybe we have been spoiled with having relatively classy leaders in my lifetime...then came that big fat loser Trump, the most classless leader and one of the worst I have come across. 

    So did you frame your "President Trump's" Virus protocol mailer? I am sure it will go nicely with your MAGA hat and all his campaign gear you accumulated.

    Life is tough, acting with class when you are offended or feel in the right is not easy but being a respectful and decent person speaks volumes about you as a person and Trump fails miserably at being a decent respectful person.

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    If you are telling me that I am misinformed, as in I am wrong about the left and media constantly attacking him, then you are misinformed and have been under a rock for 4 years.

    You have this backwards, Trump as a person has been attacking and abusing people for decades..he is the one who decided to enter politics and with specifically THIS position there is a requirement of respect and leadership for the person in the role. Trump is none of that...he feels entitled and at the same time he is mega sensitive but try and call him out on his abuses and you will be personally attacked.

    A leader needs to be above petty attacks but there is rarely a public appearance that Trump does not attack even when the person is doing nothing but asking a question or asking for clarification. He is never the better person always whining and complaining and blaming. Maybe we have been spoiled with having relatively classy leaders in my lifetime...then came that big fat loser Trump, the most classless leader and one of the worst I have come across. 

    So did you frame your "President Trump's" Virus protocol mailer? I am sure it will go nicely with your MAGA hat and all his campaign gear you accumulated.

    Life is tough, acting with class when you are offended or feel in the right is not easy but being a respectful and decent person speaks volumes about you as a person and Trump fails miserably at being a decent respectful person.

     
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    eff red china. trump will absolutely do everything he can to hold red china accountable. once life starts to return to normal he will get right on it. buckle up!

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    eff red china. trump will absolutely do everything he can to hold red china accountable. once life starts to return to normal he will get right on it. buckle up!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJeremy55:

    eff red china. trump will absolutely do everything he can to hold red china accountable. once life starts to return to normal he will get right on it. buckle up!

    This is going to be a time in history where americans should be grateful not to have crooked hillary in office, or creepy joe...having a crazy mad man like Trump is exactly what the world needs to stand up to the CCP...why? hillary and biden would only be looking to line their pockets with chinese currency...meanwhile Trump is his own man and cant be bought.

    Time will prove this to be true, despite alll the criticism Trump faces from now to eternity...if he stands for himself first and american first as well, then that still favors america which in the end is all that counts.

     

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    eff red china. trump will absolutely do everything he can to hold red china accountable. once life starts to return to normal he will get right on it. buckle up!

    This is going to be a time in history where americans should be grateful not to have crooked hillary in office, or creepy joe...having a crazy mad man like Trump is exactly what the world needs to stand up to the CCP...why? hillary and biden would only be looking to line their pockets with chinese currency...meanwhile Trump is his own man and cant be bought.

    Time will prove this to be true, despite alll the criticism Trump faces from now to eternity...if he stands for himself first and american first as well, then that still favors america which in the end is all that counts.

     

     
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    packers,

    Trump cant be bought? I think you are greatly missing the boat on this one. He has his agenda and his honey pots the same as all politicians. You are not a yank but I think you missed the fine print about the tax breaks for his businesses via the lodging industry...I think it was something like 50 billion in tax breaks and his companies and that schmuck Jared will greatly benefit.

    Dont fool yourself, Trump is as dirty and corrupt as Hills...where are his income taxes and where are the Epstein island tapes when Trump visited? Come on you cannot be green like this and actually think Trump isnt as disgusting and crooked as the two you named. I am not excusing Hills or Biden because yes they are scum but Trump is the cream of the scum. Anyone that can worm their way out of war for heel spurs is the KING of scum.

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    Trump cant be bought? I think you are greatly missing the boat on this one. He has his agenda and his honey pots the same as all politicians. You are not a yank but I think you missed the fine print about the tax breaks for his businesses via the lodging industry...I think it was something like 50 billion in tax breaks and his companies and that schmuck Jared will greatly benefit.

    Dont fool yourself, Trump is as dirty and corrupt as Hills...where are his income taxes and where are the Epstein island tapes when Trump visited? Come on you cannot be green like this and actually think Trump isnt as disgusting and crooked as the two you named. I am not excusing Hills or Biden because yes they are scum but Trump is the cream of the scum. Anyone that can worm their way out of war for heel spurs is the KING of scum.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: If you are telling me that I am misinformed, as in I am wrong about the left and media constantly attacking him, then you are misinformed and have been under a rock for 4 years. You have this backwards, Trump as a person has been attacking and abusing people for decades..he is the one who decided to enter politics and with specifically THIS position there is a requirement of respect and leadership for the person in the role. Trump is none of that...he feels entitled and at the same time he is mega sensitive but try and call him out on his abuses and you will be personally attacked. A leader needs to be above petty attacks but there is rarely a public appearance that Trump does not attack even when the person is doing nothing but asking a question or asking for clarification. He is never the better person always whining and complaining and blaming. Maybe we have been spoiled with having relatively classy leaders in my lifetime...then came that big fat loser Trump, the most classless leader and one of the worst I have come across.  So did you frame your "President Trump's" Virus protocol mailer? I am sure it will go nicely with your MAGA hat and all his campaign gear you accumulated. Life is tough, acting with class when you are offended or feel in the right is not easy but being a respectful and decent person speaks volumes about you as a person and Trump fails miserably at being a decent respectful person.

    I agree with you on all the crap he does. There is no doubt he is an asshole and lacks real class. The things he does were needed to be tough in business and by now they just stuck with him. You may think I am a huge Trump supporter, I am not. I am just on the right and believe he is a better option than what the left has offered in 2016 and now in 2020 by far. I truly believe if the Democrats put out a solid nominee we could see them beat Trump and swing some repubs like they sort of did in 2008, or at least swung a lot of people I know as repubs to vote for Obama. I think we are at a point where if we could restart the whole political scene we wish we could. New Dems and new repubs. Both sides are falling apart every year and that is why we see and will continue to see random business men come in and try to run for office. I feel Trump has many good qualities and could be a solid supporting role, maybe not as the head guy. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002: If you are telling me that I am misinformed, as in I am wrong about the left and media constantly attacking him, then you are misinformed and have been under a rock for 4 years. You have this backwards, Trump as a person has been attacking and abusing people for decades..he is the one who decided to enter politics and with specifically THIS position there is a requirement of respect and leadership for the person in the role. Trump is none of that...he feels entitled and at the same time he is mega sensitive but try and call him out on his abuses and you will be personally attacked. A leader needs to be above petty attacks but there is rarely a public appearance that Trump does not attack even when the person is doing nothing but asking a question or asking for clarification. He is never the better person always whining and complaining and blaming. Maybe we have been spoiled with having relatively classy leaders in my lifetime...then came that big fat loser Trump, the most classless leader and one of the worst I have come across.  So did you frame your "President Trump's" Virus protocol mailer? I am sure it will go nicely with your MAGA hat and all his campaign gear you accumulated. Life is tough, acting with class when you are offended or feel in the right is not easy but being a respectful and decent person speaks volumes about you as a person and Trump fails miserably at being a decent respectful person.

    I agree with you on all the crap he does. There is no doubt he is an asshole and lacks real class. The things he does were needed to be tough in business and by now they just stuck with him. You may think I am a huge Trump supporter, I am not. I am just on the right and believe he is a better option than what the left has offered in 2016 and now in 2020 by far. I truly believe if the Democrats put out a solid nominee we could see them beat Trump and swing some repubs like they sort of did in 2008, or at least swung a lot of people I know as repubs to vote for Obama. I think we are at a point where if we could restart the whole political scene we wish we could. New Dems and new repubs. Both sides are falling apart every year and that is why we see and will continue to see random business men come in and try to run for office. I feel Trump has many good qualities and could be a solid supporting role, maybe not as the head guy. 

     
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    I prefer to call it the Kung Flu.

    My prediction for a while now has been peaking in U.S. 4/15, petering out (Phase 1) by early to mid-May.  What I have learned recently is "the count" is worthless it will never be accurate, a little more accurate are the deaths and recovered, possibly the # critical. Assuming no failure in healthcare infrastructure my predictions were 40k dead in U.S. by 4/15 (peak) and 80k dead by 5/1.  If we start to see catastrophic failure in the healthcare system, run out of ICU beds and/or ventilators and/or medical staff then my numbers increase by a factor of 1.5 to 2.

    This recently hit home, I know of two people (1 personally) affected by this virus, a coworker I have worked with for 5 years, his dad has it, also my cousin who got it from his boss who is now dead.  My cousin has been given hydrochloroquine and it seems to be helping, he is still on a ventilator but having kidney issues and problems urinating, he is a year younger than me, but obese with diabetes.  80% of those hospitalized (in Netherlands I believe) are obese.

    For anyone that has been following the financial market it is quite eye opening, yes there was a big decline, but for the past week it is acting like it has hit a bottom, even though there has to be 5-10 million unemployed at this point and many businesses in danger of going bankrupt.  The amount of QE infused into this market is unprecedented so much so big investment banks have no fears they are getting the money they need to prop it up, the bond market investors are forced to invest in stocks since bonds have very little value given the amount of QE in the system.  I've been trying to call a crash, but at this point I have to go long on my investments since the market is showing no signs of collapse, companies reporting earnings this week are just omitting guidance for the future from their calls.  I was looking to buy an apartment here in Vegas but who knows where prices will settle when this situation stabilizes, my lease is up in a month and decided I am just going to rent a place in the luxury building I was looking to buy and see if I like it there and if I like where the prices end up. 

    I am fortunate my job is safe, I have been working from home for 5 years.  A friend of mine who is a bartender, hasn't paid her taxes in the past +5 years so she is ineligible for the stimulus at a minimum and likely won't see a nickle of the +$600/wk being added to unemployment, I am not exactly sure how that works (is it tax return dependent?) if anyone knows, please let me know so I can pass it on to her.

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    I prefer to call it the Kung Flu.

    My prediction for a while now has been peaking in U.S. 4/15, petering out (Phase 1) by early to mid-May.  What I have learned recently is "the count" is worthless it will never be accurate, a little more accurate are the deaths and recovered, possibly the # critical. Assuming no failure in healthcare infrastructure my predictions were 40k dead in U.S. by 4/15 (peak) and 80k dead by 5/1.  If we start to see catastrophic failure in the healthcare system, run out of ICU beds and/or ventilators and/or medical staff then my numbers increase by a factor of 1.5 to 2.

    This recently hit home, I know of two people (1 personally) affected by this virus, a coworker I have worked with for 5 years, his dad has it, also my cousin who got it from his boss who is now dead.  My cousin has been given hydrochloroquine and it seems to be helping, he is still on a ventilator but having kidney issues and problems urinating, he is a year younger than me, but obese with diabetes.  80% of those hospitalized (in Netherlands I believe) are obese.

    For anyone that has been following the financial market it is quite eye opening, yes there was a big decline, but for the past week it is acting like it has hit a bottom, even though there has to be 5-10 million unemployed at this point and many businesses in danger of going bankrupt.  The amount of QE infused into this market is unprecedented so much so big investment banks have no fears they are getting the money they need to prop it up, the bond market investors are forced to invest in stocks since bonds have very little value given the amount of QE in the system.  I've been trying to call a crash, but at this point I have to go long on my investments since the market is showing no signs of collapse, companies reporting earnings this week are just omitting guidance for the future from their calls.  I was looking to buy an apartment here in Vegas but who knows where prices will settle when this situation stabilizes, my lease is up in a month and decided I am just going to rent a place in the luxury building I was looking to buy and see if I like it there and if I like where the prices end up. 

    I am fortunate my job is safe, I have been working from home for 5 years.  A friend of mine who is a bartender, hasn't paid her taxes in the past +5 years so she is ineligible for the stimulus at a minimum and likely won't see a nickle of the +$600/wk being added to unemployment, I am not exactly sure how that works (is it tax return dependent?) if anyone knows, please let me know so I can pass it on to her.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: "We sent thousands of generators to New York ... the people in New York never distribute it the generators."   Do they need generators? I bet you are voting for Biden, who constantly makes mistakes and clearly should not be allowed to run for office.


    Would a President Biden have eliminated the White House pandemic office set up by the Obama/Biden administration in order to prepare for situations like now? No!

    Would a President Biden have ignored early warnings from his HHS Secretary and others who learned about the pandemic from Chinese officials on January 3? Would a President Biden have ignored what the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) was telling him about the pandemic in mid-January? In both cases, I don't think so!

    Would a President Biden have characterized the pandemic and what the media and opposing party politicians were saying about it as a "hoax"? I don't think so!

    After the CDC encountered manufacturing problems with their test, would a President Biden have failed to request Covid-19 test kits from the WHO, Germany and other countries? I strongly believe he would have asked for these!

    Would a President Biden have ordered FEMA to hoard supplies that some states (like here in New York) either need urgently right now or will need shortly? No bleeping way!

    Would a President Biden in effect demand that governors speak to him in flattering terms in order to receive help? No, unlike Donald Trump, Joe Biden's not a vindictive SOB!

    Biden presents his plan for dealing with the Coronavirus on his web site. If you read through it, you'll see that it's far more comprehensive and detailed than anything Trump has presented or implemented. I can't imagine that it would not produce better outcomes than what's currently happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: "We sent thousands of generators to New York ... the people in New York never distribute it the generators."   Do they need generators? I bet you are voting for Biden, who constantly makes mistakes and clearly should not be allowed to run for office.


    Would a President Biden have eliminated the White House pandemic office set up by the Obama/Biden administration in order to prepare for situations like now? No!

    Would a President Biden have ignored early warnings from his HHS Secretary and others who learned about the pandemic from Chinese officials on January 3? Would a President Biden have ignored what the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) was telling him about the pandemic in mid-January? In both cases, I don't think so!

    Would a President Biden have characterized the pandemic and what the media and opposing party politicians were saying about it as a "hoax"? I don't think so!

    After the CDC encountered manufacturing problems with their test, would a President Biden have failed to request Covid-19 test kits from the WHO, Germany and other countries? I strongly believe he would have asked for these!

    Would a President Biden have ordered FEMA to hoard supplies that some states (like here in New York) either need urgently right now or will need shortly? No bleeping way!

    Would a President Biden in effect demand that governors speak to him in flattering terms in order to receive help? No, unlike Donald Trump, Joe Biden's not a vindictive SOB!

    Biden presents his plan for dealing with the Coronavirus on his web site. If you read through it, you'll see that it's far more comprehensive and detailed than anything Trump has presented or implemented. I can't imagine that it would not produce better outcomes than what's currently happening.

     
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    Trump definitely responsible extra lives lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State. Remember folks, Trump has never been linked to murder You said no bullshit in this thread & what you present here about Seth Rich is bullshit. Either lead by example or why bother continuing the thread. This conspiracy was started by Roger Stone. In reality, this man was killed during a botched robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers: Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug: Remember folks, while Trump is out there lying, spreading bizarre theories about missing surgical masks, and presiding over the western world's worst response to a once-in-100-year pandemic, at least he didn't use a private email server while serving as Secretary of State. Remember folks, Trump has never been linked to murder You said no bullshit in this thread & what you present here about Seth Rich is bullshit. Either lead by example or why bother continuing the thread. This conspiracy was started by Roger Stone. In reality, this man was killed during a botched robbery.

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