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    The Trump administrstion was a disaster for the environment.

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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2021 - 6:29 PM ET #1

    The deregulation of basic rights to endangered species was repealed along with 567 other regulations.

    His disaster happening risk management strategy left many concerned with the environment and working for the government impossible. More environmentalist resigned on His watch than any previous administration.   His marginalizing regulations directly led to over 5 oils spills destroying habitat. 

    He has a lease agreement with Exxon that the government pays them to lease the land and drill on shore as well as per shore. Allowing America to sell oil world wide means open dependency.

    He removed the United States from the climate control

     His decision on stopping recycling trade began to cripple the industry. His entire policy of scorched earth mind set has driven many species of animals to the brink of extinction. 

    46 months of destruction for finally headed his daughters concerns with plastic in the ocean

    If we block out the sun with plastic. We will destroy 70 percent of the oxygen supply.

    He then gave 8 billion to remive plastic from the ocean.

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    The deregulation of basic rights to endangered species was repealed along with 567 other regulations.

    His disaster happening risk management strategy left many concerned with the environment and working for the government impossible. More environmentalist resigned on His watch than any previous administration.   His marginalizing regulations directly led to over 5 oils spills destroying habitat. 

    He has a lease agreement with Exxon that the government pays them to lease the land and drill on shore as well as per shore. Allowing America to sell oil world wide means open dependency.

    He removed the United States from the climate control

     His decision on stopping recycling trade began to cripple the industry. His entire policy of scorched earth mind set has driven many species of animals to the brink of extinction. 

    46 months of destruction for finally headed his daughters concerns with plastic in the ocean

    If we block out the sun with plastic. We will destroy 70 percent of the oxygen supply.

    He then gave 8 billion to remive plastic from the ocean.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2021 - 8:16 PM ET #2

    Excuse me do you buy products in plastic do you drive a car that runs on gas do you fly do you eat burger's do you eat plant foods what exactly do you do to improve the environment?

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    Excuse me do you buy products in plastic do you drive a car that runs on gas do you fly do you eat burger's do you eat plant foods what exactly do you do to improve the environment?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2021 - 10:01 PM ET #3

    Then recycle the plastic made.

    This off set tommorow demands allow multifuel engines hydrogen propane gas diesel combustion. To stop the stalemate of oil.

     

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    Then recycle the plastic made.

    This off set tommorow demands allow multifuel engines hydrogen propane gas diesel combustion. To stop the stalemate of oil.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2021 - 10:03 PM ET #4

    Move to refining waste products in daily consumption.

    for energy demands and extend recourse.  

    Metal

    plastic

    paper

    and everything

    that made to be thrown away included sewage can be retutilzed.

    Every thing made can be remade with the recourse given and oil is not the primary driver within the energy sector.

     

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    Move to refining waste products in daily consumption.

    for energy demands and extend recourse.  

    Metal

    plastic

    paper

    and everything

    that made to be thrown away included sewage can be retutilzed.

    Every thing made can be remade with the recourse given and oil is not the primary driver within the energy sector.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2021 - 10:10 PM ET #5

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     I know you are relatively new in this forum but when you ask nature what he's doing about the environment, son you are barking up the wrong tree. 

    Just take a little time to check out some of his threads on the subject before you try to discredit him.

     

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     I know you are relatively new in this forum but when you ask nature what he's doing about the environment, son you are barking up the wrong tree. 

    Just take a little time to check out some of his threads on the subject before you try to discredit him.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2021 - 10:51 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @Aronrogers  I know you are relatively new in this forum but when you ask nature what he's doing about the environment, son you are barking up the wrong tree.  Just take a little time to check out some of his threads on the subject before you try to discredit him.

     

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    I can picture Nature and his wife with a clothesline near their garden and chicken coop. an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @Aronrogers  I know you are relatively new in this forum but when you ask nature what he's doing about the environment, son you are barking up the wrong tree.  Just take a little time to check out some of his threads on the subject before you try to discredit him.

     

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    I can picture Nature and his wife with a clothesline near their garden and chicken coop. an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 3:14 AM ET #7

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     Son I don't need to we all and I mean all are responsible for the environment so kid get with the program

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     Son I don't need to we all and I mean all are responsible for the environment so kid get with the program

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 3:21 AM ET #8

    All you people bitch and cry and point fingers but don't do your part 100%  you guys are a big problem as much as trump a bunch of over grown children learn to take some responsibility for your actions

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    All you people bitch and cry and point fingers but don't do your part 100%  you guys are a big problem as much as trump a bunch of over grown children learn to take some responsibility for your actions

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 3:44 PM ET #9

    Hey Nature,

    I guess you are paying attention to the NASA Mars 2020 Perseverance, keep our fingers crossed. It's going to penetrate Mars atmosphere and touch down on Mars within ten minutes. Best of luck!!! 

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    Hey Nature,

    I guess you are paying attention to the NASA Mars 2020 Perseverance, keep our fingers crossed. It's going to penetrate Mars atmosphere and touch down on Mars within ten minutes. Best of luck!!! 

    clover

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 3:57 PM ET #10

    TOUCH DOWN on Mars, successfully!!! 

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    TOUCH DOWN on Mars, successfully!!! 

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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 4:28 PM ET #11

    Amazing!

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    Amazing!

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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 4:31 PM ET #12

    The drone got a little helicopter underneath it. 

    Yay it finally landed!!!!. Yes djbrow we did have a chickens and a clothesline but they frown on that within the city limits. 

    I live within 10 miles of a chicken farm in tuner rumored to supply 80 percent of all ehhs in New England. 

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    The drone got a little helicopter underneath it. 

    Yay it finally landed!!!!. Yes djbrow we did have a chickens and a clothesline but they frown on that within the city limits. 

    I live within 10 miles of a chicken farm in tuner rumored to supply 80 percent of all ehhs in New England. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 7:13 PM ET #13

    Mr Rodgers, 

    Now that your boxed. The only post to forum that is allowed is The Penalty Box. However, if you total revoke the opportunity to furthur dialogue.

    Chew on this for a moment.

    And I express this challenge it the five up rule.

    Give me 5 pick up 5 pieces of litter that is not your own and dispose of them legally trash can dump .

    If everyone took 5 pieces of litter everyday for a year and added no more we can change what enters the water shed system and ending in the sea.

    In the meantime .

    You can see my work in technology department.

     https://www.covers.com/forum/technology-85/zero-cost-production-energy-103434434

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    Mr Rodgers, 

    Now that your boxed. The only post to forum that is allowed is The Penalty Box. However, if you total revoke the opportunity to furthur dialogue.

    Chew on this for a moment.

    And I express this challenge it the five up rule.

    Give me 5 pick up 5 pieces of litter that is not your own and dispose of them legally trash can dump .

    If everyone took 5 pieces of litter everyday for a year and added no more we can change what enters the water shed system and ending in the sea.

    In the meantime .

    You can see my work in technology department.

     https://www.covers.com/forum/technology-85/zero-cost-production-energy-103434434

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 7:15 PM ET #14

    As for the fleet that entered orbit and landed 

    I believe China has deployed a drone as well .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianwen-1

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    As for the fleet that entered orbit and landed 

    I believe China has deployed a drone as well .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianwen-1

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2021 - 7:40 PM ET #15

    Trumps policies led to over 5 leaks in a single system.  Keystones tar sands. The exacting pressure of pushing sludge in a pipe theoretically exceed the pressure of black beauty sand blasting materials shot form a 10000 psi gun .steel can not  withstand the friction even emulated in grease. 

    This former pipe to new product conversion does not adapt well hence the originals problem with pipes and tar sand.

    The throw back from the most wealthiest corporations was that to up grade the decades old structures would be to lenient of a potential profitability. 

    For the sour and sand mix of Alberta is not wanted in the United states. Hence China in effort to pollute America began the structure from Albert a to Houston and everything down stream to new Orleans,

     WHile Trump was saying he was tough on China he had

    Every thing in the white house guest gift shop made in China his and Ivankas ward drove.

    He was friend with Kim Jun ill .

    They gave each other personal correspondence described as nice notes in both Korean presses North and South and dialogue between adversary conflict was achieved in diplomatic dialogues. 

    The only nation that allows North Korea is China. 

    Had Trump and Beijing have a reasonable correspondents talks with North Korea would not have been allowed.

    As for the piping all fuel entering the pipe was sold to China. China had then a principle market could redistribute the commodity at their leisure.

     

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    Trumps policies led to over 5 leaks in a single system.  Keystones tar sands. The exacting pressure of pushing sludge in a pipe theoretically exceed the pressure of black beauty sand blasting materials shot form a 10000 psi gun .steel can not  withstand the friction even emulated in grease. 

    This former pipe to new product conversion does not adapt well hence the originals problem with pipes and tar sand.

    The throw back from the most wealthiest corporations was that to up grade the decades old structures would be to lenient of a potential profitability. 

    For the sour and sand mix of Alberta is not wanted in the United states. Hence China in effort to pollute America began the structure from Albert a to Houston and everything down stream to new Orleans,

     WHile Trump was saying he was tough on China he had

    Every thing in the white house guest gift shop made in China his and Ivankas ward drove.

    He was friend with Kim Jun ill .

    They gave each other personal correspondence described as nice notes in both Korean presses North and South and dialogue between adversary conflict was achieved in diplomatic dialogues. 

    The only nation that allows North Korea is China. 

    Had Trump and Beijing have a reasonable correspondents talks with North Korea would not have been allowed.

    As for the piping all fuel entering the pipe was sold to China. China had then a principle market could redistribute the commodity at their leisure.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2021 - 1:25 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Hey Nature, I guess you are paying attention to the NASA Mars 2020 Perseverance, keep our fingers crossed. It's going to penetrate Mars atmosphere and touch down on Mars within ten minutes. Best of luck!!!

    One of the major scientific missions of 2020 Mars Perseverance is searching for possible past Martian microbial life inside the Jezero Crater (*3). Does anyone remember the ALH 84001(*1), the evidence of microbial fossil on Mars? Well, the ALH 84001 did really stir fiercely debate among science circle some 20 years ago over magnetite crystals. Or, NASA's Gilbert Levin has claimed his Level Released (LR) experiment (*2) found microbial life on Mars in the Viking Missions back in 1970's.    

    Probably, Perseverance might discover some astonishing evidences of extraterrestrial life on Mars. How exciting will be it if this should come true. 

     *(1) https://www.space.com/33690-allen-hills-mars-meteorite-alien-life-20-years.html

     *(2) https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/im-convinced-we-found-evidence-of-life-on-mars-in-the-1970s/

    *(3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jezero_(crater)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Hey Nature, I guess you are paying attention to the NASA Mars 2020 Perseverance, keep our fingers crossed. It's going to penetrate Mars atmosphere and touch down on Mars within ten minutes. Best of luck!!!

    One of the major scientific missions of 2020 Mars Perseverance is searching for possible past Martian microbial life inside the Jezero Crater (*3). Does anyone remember the ALH 84001(*1), the evidence of microbial fossil on Mars? Well, the ALH 84001 did really stir fiercely debate among science circle some 20 years ago over magnetite crystals. Or, NASA's Gilbert Levin has claimed his Level Released (LR) experiment (*2) found microbial life on Mars in the Viking Missions back in 1970's.    

    Probably, Perseverance might discover some astonishing evidences of extraterrestrial life on Mars. How exciting will be it if this should come true. 

     *(1) https://www.space.com/33690-allen-hills-mars-meteorite-alien-life-20-years.html

     *(2) https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/im-convinced-we-found-evidence-of-life-on-mars-in-the-1970s/

    *(3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jezero_(crater)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2021 - 5:13 PM ET #17

    What are the implications of the Vance decision for the president’s legal position? The Supreme Court ordered the case back to the District Court, which we fully expect to affirm the Supreme Court’s message and require Mazars to turn over the president’s tax returns and other financial records to the Manhattan district attorney. These records will then be part of a criminal investigation, and the grand jury will have to decide if there is probable cause to believe that the president, or perhaps the Trump Organization, committed a crime.

    Source https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/10/supreme-court-vance-immunity/

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    What are the implications of the Vance decision for the president’s legal position? The Supreme Court ordered the case back to the District Court, which we fully expect to affirm the Supreme Court’s message and require Mazars to turn over the president’s tax returns and other financial records to the Manhattan district attorney. These records will then be part of a criminal investigation, and the grand jury will have to decide if there is probable cause to believe that the president, or perhaps the Trump Organization, committed a crime.

    Source https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/10/supreme-court-vance-immunity/

     
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    Mars. Exploration goals.

    Besides finding life.

    Like any new NASA mission, Perseverance is also a platform for demonstrating some of the most state-of-the-art technology in the solar system. 

    One is MOXIE, a small device that seeks to turn the carbon-dioxide-heavy Martian atmosphere into usable oxygen through electrolysis (using an electric current to separate elements). This has been done before on Earth, but it’s important to prove that it works on Mars if we hope humans can live there one day. Oxygen production could not only provide a Martian colony with breathable air; it could also be used to generate liquid oxygen for rocket fuel. MOXIE should have about 10 opportunities to make oxygen during Perseverance’s first two years, during different seasons and times of the day. It will run for about an hour each time, producing 6 to 10 grams of oxygen per session. 

    There’s also Ingenuity, a 1.8-kilogram helicopter that could take the first powered controlled flight ever made on another planet. Deploying Ingenuity (which is stowed underneath the rover) will take about 10 days. Its first flight will be about three meters into the air, where it will hover for about 20 seconds. If it successfully flies in Mars’s ultra-thin atmosphere (1% as dense as Earth’s), Ingenuity will have many more chances to fly elsewhere. Two cameras on the helicopter will help us see exactly what it sees. On its own, Ingenuity won’t be critical for exploring Mars, but its success could pave the way for engineers to think about new ways to explore other planets when a rover or lander will not suffice.

    Neither of those demonstrations will be the marquee moment for Perseverance. The highlight of the mission, which may take 10 years to realize, will be the return of Martian soil samples to Earth. Perseverance will drill into the ground and collect more than 40 samples, most of which will be returned to Earth as part of a joint NASA-ESA mission. NASA officials suggest that this mission could come in either 2026 or 2028, which means the earliest they may be returned to Earth is 2031. 

    Collecting such samples is no small feat. Robotics company Maxar built the sample handling arm (SHA) that controls the drilling mechanism to collect cores of Martian soil from the ground. The company had to build something that worked autonomously, with hardware and electronics that could withstand temperature swings from -73 °C (100 °F) at night to more than 20 °C (70 °F) during the day. And most important, it had to build something that could contend with the Martian dust. 

    “When you’re talking about a moving mechanism that has to apply force and go exactly where you need it to go, you can’t have a tiny little dust particle stopping the whole show,” says Lucy Condakchian, the general manager of robotics at Maxar. SHA, located underneath the rover itself, is exposed to a ton of dust kicked up by the rover’s wheels or by drilling. Various innovations should help it withstand this problem, including new lubricants and a metallic accordion design for its lateral (front-to-back) movement.

    Before any of those things are proved to work, however, the rover needs to make it to Mars in one piece. 

    “It never gets old,” says Condakchian. “I’m just as nervous as I’ve been on the previous missions. But it’s a good nervous—an excitement to be doing this again.”

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    Mars. Exploration goals.

    Besides finding life.

    Like any new NASA mission, Perseverance is also a platform for demonstrating some of the most state-of-the-art technology in the solar system. 

    One is MOXIE, a small device that seeks to turn the carbon-dioxide-heavy Martian atmosphere into usable oxygen through electrolysis (using an electric current to separate elements). This has been done before on Earth, but it’s important to prove that it works on Mars if we hope humans can live there one day. Oxygen production could not only provide a Martian colony with breathable air; it could also be used to generate liquid oxygen for rocket fuel. MOXIE should have about 10 opportunities to make oxygen during Perseverance’s first two years, during different seasons and times of the day. It will run for about an hour each time, producing 6 to 10 grams of oxygen per session. 

    There’s also Ingenuity, a 1.8-kilogram helicopter that could take the first powered controlled flight ever made on another planet. Deploying Ingenuity (which is stowed underneath the rover) will take about 10 days. Its first flight will be about three meters into the air, where it will hover for about 20 seconds. If it successfully flies in Mars’s ultra-thin atmosphere (1% as dense as Earth’s), Ingenuity will have many more chances to fly elsewhere. Two cameras on the helicopter will help us see exactly what it sees. On its own, Ingenuity won’t be critical for exploring Mars, but its success could pave the way for engineers to think about new ways to explore other planets when a rover or lander will not suffice.

    Neither of those demonstrations will be the marquee moment for Perseverance. The highlight of the mission, which may take 10 years to realize, will be the return of Martian soil samples to Earth. Perseverance will drill into the ground and collect more than 40 samples, most of which will be returned to Earth as part of a joint NASA-ESA mission. NASA officials suggest that this mission could come in either 2026 or 2028, which means the earliest they may be returned to Earth is 2031. 

    Collecting such samples is no small feat. Robotics company Maxar built the sample handling arm (SHA) that controls the drilling mechanism to collect cores of Martian soil from the ground. The company had to build something that worked autonomously, with hardware and electronics that could withstand temperature swings from -73 °C (100 °F) at night to more than 20 °C (70 °F) during the day. And most important, it had to build something that could contend with the Martian dust. 

    “When you’re talking about a moving mechanism that has to apply force and go exactly where you need it to go, you can’t have a tiny little dust particle stopping the whole show,” says Lucy Condakchian, the general manager of robotics at Maxar. SHA, located underneath the rover itself, is exposed to a ton of dust kicked up by the rover’s wheels or by drilling. Various innovations should help it withstand this problem, including new lubricants and a metallic accordion design for its lateral (front-to-back) movement.

    Before any of those things are proved to work, however, the rover needs to make it to Mars in one piece. 

    “It never gets old,” says Condakchian. “I’m just as nervous as I’ve been on the previous missions. But it’s a good nervous—an excitement to be doing this again.”

     
     
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    The next phase is to return the life sample back to earth.

    In the next steps of the MSR campaign, NASA and ESA will provide respective components for a Sample Retrieval Lander mission and an Earth Return Orbiter mission, with launches planned in the latter half of this decade. The Sample Retrieval Lander mission will deliver a Sample Fetch Rover and Mars Ascent Vehicle to the surface of Mars. The rover will retrieve the samples and transport them to the lander. The Perseverance rover also provides a potential capability for delivery of collection tubes to the lander. A robotic arm on the lander will transfer the samples into a container embedded in the nose of the Mars Ascent Vehicle.

     

    Once sealed, the system will prepare for the first launch from another planet. In Mars orbit, the Earth Return Orbiter will rendezvous with and capture the sealed sample container, and then place the samples in an additional high-reliability containment capsule for return to Earth in the early 2030s.

     

    "Returning samples of Mars to Earth has been a goal of planetary scientists since the early days of the space age, and the successful completion of this MSR key decision point is an important next step in transforming this goal into reality," said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for science at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "MSR is a complex campaign, and it encapsulates the very essence of pioneering space exploration – pushing the boundaries of what's capable and, in so doing, furthering our understanding of our place in the universe."

     

    Bringing Mars samples back to Earth will allow scientists across the world to examine the specimens using sophisticated instruments too large and too complex to send to Mars, and will allow future generations to study them using technology not yet available. Curating the samples on Earth will allow the science community to test new theories and models as they are developed, much as the Apollo samples returned from the Moon have done for decades.

     

    The MSR campaign also advances NASA's efforts to send humans to the Red Planet. It will involve landing heavier spacecraft on the Martian surface than ever before. It would also involve launch from and rendezvous operations around another planet for the first time. With the Artemis program, NASA will land the first woman and next man on the lunar surface in 2024 to prepare for humanity's next giant leap – sending astronauts to Mars.

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    The next phase is to return the life sample back to earth.

    In the next steps of the MSR campaign, NASA and ESA will provide respective components for a Sample Retrieval Lander mission and an Earth Return Orbiter mission, with launches planned in the latter half of this decade. The Sample Retrieval Lander mission will deliver a Sample Fetch Rover and Mars Ascent Vehicle to the surface of Mars. The rover will retrieve the samples and transport them to the lander. The Perseverance rover also provides a potential capability for delivery of collection tubes to the lander. A robotic arm on the lander will transfer the samples into a container embedded in the nose of the Mars Ascent Vehicle.

     

    Once sealed, the system will prepare for the first launch from another planet. In Mars orbit, the Earth Return Orbiter will rendezvous with and capture the sealed sample container, and then place the samples in an additional high-reliability containment capsule for return to Earth in the early 2030s.

     

    "Returning samples of Mars to Earth has been a goal of planetary scientists since the early days of the space age, and the successful completion of this MSR key decision point is an important next step in transforming this goal into reality," said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for science at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "MSR is a complex campaign, and it encapsulates the very essence of pioneering space exploration – pushing the boundaries of what's capable and, in so doing, furthering our understanding of our place in the universe."

     

    Bringing Mars samples back to Earth will allow scientists across the world to examine the specimens using sophisticated instruments too large and too complex to send to Mars, and will allow future generations to study them using technology not yet available. Curating the samples on Earth will allow the science community to test new theories and models as they are developed, much as the Apollo samples returned from the Moon have done for decades.

     

    The MSR campaign also advances NASA's efforts to send humans to the Red Planet. It will involve landing heavier spacecraft on the Martian surface than ever before. It would also involve launch from and rendezvous operations around another planet for the first time. With the Artemis program, NASA will land the first woman and next man on the lunar surface in 2024 to prepare for humanity's next giant leap – sending astronauts to Mars.

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