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    Trump Crumbles When Pressed on Economic Policy

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    DogbiteWilliams
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 1:49 AM ET #1

    Donald Trump continued his pre-election economic event tour on Tuesday with a lengthy interview with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago. It was a total mess,” Rolling Stone reports.

     “Bloomberg Editor-In-Chief John Micklethwait did not take it easy on Trump, and it quickly became clear that the former president has no conception of the mechanics of or the potential ramifications of the economic platform he’s running on. Bluntly, the former president was incoherent [emphasis mine] when pressed with real questions about his policies.”

    David Graham: “When he speaks about the economy, he sounds like a child—which might be the source of his appeal.”

    https://politicalwire.com/2024/10/15/trump-crumbles-when-pressed-on-economic-policy/#disqus_thread

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    "Incoherent" ain't exactly Presidential material, but it's what is reasonable to expect from "Mr. Bankruptcies."  Virtually all economists - liberal, moderate or conservative - say his emphasis on tariffs is a huge mistake.

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    Donald Trump continued his pre-election economic event tour on Tuesday with a lengthy interview with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago. It was a total mess,” Rolling Stone reports.

     “Bloomberg Editor-In-Chief John Micklethwait did not take it easy on Trump, and it quickly became clear that the former president has no conception of the mechanics of or the potential ramifications of the economic platform he’s running on. Bluntly, the former president was incoherent [emphasis mine] when pressed with real questions about his policies.”

    David Graham: “When he speaks about the economy, he sounds like a child—which might be the source of his appeal.”

    https://politicalwire.com/2024/10/15/trump-crumbles-when-pressed-on-economic-policy/#disqus_thread

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    "Incoherent" ain't exactly Presidential material, but it's what is reasonable to expect from "Mr. Bankruptcies."  Virtually all economists - liberal, moderate or conservative - say his emphasis on tariffs is a huge mistake.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 7:59 AM ET #2

    It would be nice if we could hear what Kamala's economic policies are, wouldn't it? Has anyone "pressed" Kamala on anything? I mean, what is her policy on literall anything?

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    It would be nice if we could hear what Kamala's economic policies are, wouldn't it? Has anyone "pressed" Kamala on anything? I mean, what is her policy on literall anything?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 8:19 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    It would be nice if we could hear what Kamala's economic policies are,

    No secret that Harris economic policies are democratic party policies.  But right wing media has failed to keep people informed.  Polls show most economists agree that Harris has better economic policies than Trump for the future.  No surprise since US economy has been performing better under democrat presidents for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    It would be nice if we could hear what Kamala's economic policies are,

    No secret that Harris economic policies are democratic party policies.  But right wing media has failed to keep people informed.  Polls show most economists agree that Harris has better economic policies than Trump for the future.  No surprise since US economy has been performing better under democrat presidents for decades.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 9:45 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: It would be nice if we could hear what Kamala's economic policies are, No secret that Harris economic policies are democratic party policies.  But right wing media has failed to keep people informed.  Polls show most economists agree that Harris has better economic policies than Trump for the future.  No surprise since US economy has been performing better under democrat presidents for decades.

    So what are her policies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: It would be nice if we could hear what Kamala's economic policies are, No secret that Harris economic policies are democratic party policies.  But right wing media has failed to keep people informed.  Polls show most economists agree that Harris has better economic policies than Trump for the future.  No surprise since US economy has been performing better under democrat presidents for decades.

    So what are her policies?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 10:46 AM ET #5

    Presidents do not "control" the economy, but they can weaken or strengthen it considerably. Slapping tariffs on goods from all your major business partners will 100% lead to inflation. Just look at his silly tariffs he placed on China in his 1st term…The government had to write a check to the nations farm and now China doesn’t buy 15% of the soybean from us of what they use to!  This is a man who had the ability to bankrupt 2 casino’s, This a man who profits by extremely over inflating tax returns…He lies and cheats at everything and every one! I have to add Trump has said they all do it ….And he wants people support him and his fellow rich crooks so he can continue there despicable life’s ?  Not for me! I’ll take the 80,000 extra IRS agents and there oversight will pay for 10,000 border control agent if that is what is needed…..Now Thats  Making America Fair Again ! MAFA

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    Presidents do not "control" the economy, but they can weaken or strengthen it considerably. Slapping tariffs on goods from all your major business partners will 100% lead to inflation. Just look at his silly tariffs he placed on China in his 1st term…The government had to write a check to the nations farm and now China doesn’t buy 15% of the soybean from us of what they use to!  This is a man who had the ability to bankrupt 2 casino’s, This a man who profits by extremely over inflating tax returns…He lies and cheats at everything and every one! I have to add Trump has said they all do it ….And he wants people support him and his fellow rich crooks so he can continue there despicable life’s ?  Not for me! I’ll take the 80,000 extra IRS agents and there oversight will pay for 10,000 border control agent if that is what is needed…..Now Thats  Making America Fair Again ! MAFA

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 10:55 AM ET #6

    @StumpTownStu

     Just curious about your intent in asking the retort questions, have you taken any time to see what her economic policies are? What her goals and purpose if elected will be?

    It is not difficult to find the exact answer to your question, she has been very clear about what direction she wants the country to go economically and how she feels it will be paid for, who she thinks needs the most help and who she thinks does not.

    I am not going to say that her plan is without flaws or that the plan will even happen as she would like because as mentioned above the POTUS does not control the economic outcomes in this country so even if she was elected it is not that her blueprint will be the only way the country goes forward.

    So have you spent like any time in seeking the information you are asking or is it just a debate ploy that when one candidate is attacked you deflect and force the OP to answer your questions as a means of retort? 

    Your answers are public knowledge, she has been transparent, detailed and very specific, so spend a few minutes and find it since you are so interested, right?

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    @StumpTownStu

     Just curious about your intent in asking the retort questions, have you taken any time to see what her economic policies are? What her goals and purpose if elected will be?

    It is not difficult to find the exact answer to your question, she has been very clear about what direction she wants the country to go economically and how she feels it will be paid for, who she thinks needs the most help and who she thinks does not.

    I am not going to say that her plan is without flaws or that the plan will even happen as she would like because as mentioned above the POTUS does not control the economic outcomes in this country so even if she was elected it is not that her blueprint will be the only way the country goes forward.

    So have you spent like any time in seeking the information you are asking or is it just a debate ploy that when one candidate is attacked you deflect and force the OP to answer your questions as a means of retort? 

    Your answers are public knowledge, she has been transparent, detailed and very specific, so spend a few minutes and find it since you are so interested, right?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 11:18 AM ET #7

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      Transparent? Is that a joke? I don't think even Harris knows what her policies are, outside of false promises. Repeating that you "grew up in a middle class family" is not a policy.

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      Transparent? Is that a joke? I don't think even Harris knows what her policies are, outside of false promises. Repeating that you "grew up in a middle class family" is not a policy.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 11:47 AM ET #8

    Wallstreetcapper is right.  Harris has been more transparent.  Despite republicans begging him, Trump refuses to discuss policies because he cannot for 3 reasons.  He doesn't care about governing except to benefit himself.  He doesn't know how to talk about  his half baked policies.  He knows his policies are unpopular.  For examples, dictatorship, tax breaks for the rich, abortion restrictions and pardon criminals who attack capitol.

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    Wallstreetcapper is right.  Harris has been more transparent.  Despite republicans begging him, Trump refuses to discuss policies because he cannot for 3 reasons.  He doesn't care about governing except to benefit himself.  He doesn't know how to talk about  his half baked policies.  He knows his policies are unpopular.  For examples, dictatorship, tax breaks for the rich, abortion restrictions and pardon criminals who attack capitol.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 11:54 AM ET #9

    Another example of how disingenuous Maga and Republicans are. Kamala's economic policies are discussed in detail at every single rally. They are also laid out in detail on her website under the issues tab if anyone is really interested in reading them. Cannot say the same about Trump's vague economic catch phrases like tariffs and close the border. 

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    Another example of how disingenuous Maga and Republicans are. Kamala's economic policies are discussed in detail at every single rally. They are also laid out in detail on her website under the issues tab if anyone is really interested in reading them. Cannot say the same about Trump's vague economic catch phrases like tariffs and close the border. 

     
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     I completely disagree. Let me make this clear for you and Stu, it is not that I am agreeing with her approach or that it is MY approach, rather that where she intends on leading is transparent, clear, it is known and easy to find.

    The reason why you are complaining is much more about Trump than it is about Harris, what you feel is a lack of clarity is much more to do with the way Trump is dodging debates and interactions so the way the questions are asked really come from debates. Harris wanted more debates, Trump with his defensive blame the media narrative does not want more debates. I think the issue of clarity and a lack of understanding comes from the Trump narrative more than Harris, so if you want more question and answer and back and forth then tell Trump to take off his dancing shoes and have more debates. The problem is that Trump has no plan of his own and he really dislikes not controlling the content and the discussion so a debate for him is the last thing he wants.

    I know what the Harris economic plan is and I have not even needed to search all that hard. She is a party candidate and as to the spectrum she is a moderate democrat and her approach is the party approach. I know 100% more about what her plans are than Trump who has no plan and does not want to be pushed into admitting that he has no plan. 

    I think Trump is lacking with his mental faculties, he is in decline with his ability to think on his feet and have details available in his mind, he never is able to dive deep into economic or political discussion. He and his TNC family members know he is in decline, similar to Reagan where exposure to these issues is masked and hidden, the complete same is going on with the TNC. There is no wonder he refuses to release his medical information, he is in severe medical decline and knows he is at risk of information being released that would sink his political chances.

    Harris is not recreating economic policy, her policy is the party policy and within the DNC narrative she is smack in the middle of the road, she is not a Bernie Sanders and she is not a Manchin, she is a simple moderate candidate, finding out her plan is simple and she has laid it out completely.

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     I completely disagree. Let me make this clear for you and Stu, it is not that I am agreeing with her approach or that it is MY approach, rather that where she intends on leading is transparent, clear, it is known and easy to find.

    The reason why you are complaining is much more about Trump than it is about Harris, what you feel is a lack of clarity is much more to do with the way Trump is dodging debates and interactions so the way the questions are asked really come from debates. Harris wanted more debates, Trump with his defensive blame the media narrative does not want more debates. I think the issue of clarity and a lack of understanding comes from the Trump narrative more than Harris, so if you want more question and answer and back and forth then tell Trump to take off his dancing shoes and have more debates. The problem is that Trump has no plan of his own and he really dislikes not controlling the content and the discussion so a debate for him is the last thing he wants.

    I know what the Harris economic plan is and I have not even needed to search all that hard. She is a party candidate and as to the spectrum she is a moderate democrat and her approach is the party approach. I know 100% more about what her plans are than Trump who has no plan and does not want to be pushed into admitting that he has no plan. 

    I think Trump is lacking with his mental faculties, he is in decline with his ability to think on his feet and have details available in his mind, he never is able to dive deep into economic or political discussion. He and his TNC family members know he is in decline, similar to Reagan where exposure to these issues is masked and hidden, the complete same is going on with the TNC. There is no wonder he refuses to release his medical information, he is in severe medical decline and knows he is at risk of information being released that would sink his political chances.

    Harris is not recreating economic policy, her policy is the party policy and within the DNC narrative she is smack in the middle of the road, she is not a Bernie Sanders and she is not a Manchin, she is a simple moderate candidate, finding out her plan is simple and she has laid it out completely.

     
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      Harris' lack of clarity has nothing to do with Trump. She has given no clear answer on anything in any "interview". Toeing the dem line, especially these days, is not an individual plan & is reason enough to dismiss her.

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      Harris' lack of clarity has nothing to do with Trump. She has given no clear answer on anything in any "interview". Toeing the dem line, especially these days, is not an individual plan & is reason enough to dismiss her.

     
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     Again...I completely disagree with your reply. The reason why you two and other republicans are complaining is the content you seek is not being provided on a platter or on some news channel and that is because these candidates are not engaging each other, there is ZERO discussion, ZERO debate, ZERO content to watch and compare person to person and that is 100% Trump and his narrative.

    So if you want to find details about Harris, use your fingers and search it is easier to find her policy than it is to find the QB details for some of the games tonight, it is not difficult at all to find what you are asking. The problem is you are not seeking to FIND you are seeking to DISCREDIT and deflect, just like Trump does. If you seriously were interested from a positive perspective to find her policy you would not be asking these deflect questions you would have easily found your answers because it is that simple and easy to find.

    When someone seeks to discredit or deflect or minimize then a common dull tool is the "Where is the ZYXPDQ" info, it is a rather boring put off in the current era, finding answers now is simple and anyone can find public data, the "where is" retort is something a 5 year old kid does, you can find her info if you are looking but really you are not.

    I'd like to see more debates, not the Trump style debates where he scrowls and makes insults, rather an educated debate like Romney did where topics are discussed, respect is given and common polite discussion takes place. Trump has destroyed your party, it will be interesting going down the road what the path of the TNC will be, if the nasty negative narrative continues or if the party returns to more mature and educated candidates.

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     Again...I completely disagree with your reply. The reason why you two and other republicans are complaining is the content you seek is not being provided on a platter or on some news channel and that is because these candidates are not engaging each other, there is ZERO discussion, ZERO debate, ZERO content to watch and compare person to person and that is 100% Trump and his narrative.

    So if you want to find details about Harris, use your fingers and search it is easier to find her policy than it is to find the QB details for some of the games tonight, it is not difficult at all to find what you are asking. The problem is you are not seeking to FIND you are seeking to DISCREDIT and deflect, just like Trump does. If you seriously were interested from a positive perspective to find her policy you would not be asking these deflect questions you would have easily found your answers because it is that simple and easy to find.

    When someone seeks to discredit or deflect or minimize then a common dull tool is the "Where is the ZYXPDQ" info, it is a rather boring put off in the current era, finding answers now is simple and anyone can find public data, the "where is" retort is something a 5 year old kid does, you can find her info if you are looking but really you are not.

    I'd like to see more debates, not the Trump style debates where he scrowls and makes insults, rather an educated debate like Romney did where topics are discussed, respect is given and common polite discussion takes place. Trump has destroyed your party, it will be interesting going down the road what the path of the TNC will be, if the nasty negative narrative continues or if the party returns to more mature and educated candidates.

     
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     You can disagree all you want. I've seen Harris in action. She isn't capable of giving a clear answer. If her policies are so transparent in print, why can't she verbalize them? Could it be because she's not familiar with all of them? Do you realize that until a few days ago there was nothing on her site about policy? Promising giveaways is not a policy, it's good ol' fashion vote-buying. She is not capable of being POTUS.

      I don't have a "party", so please spare me your lecture. But I've found myself disagreeing more & more with dem ideology. You sound like you're trying to convince yourself that your dem party is still what it was in the 90's.

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     You can disagree all you want. I've seen Harris in action. She isn't capable of giving a clear answer. If her policies are so transparent in print, why can't she verbalize them? Could it be because she's not familiar with all of them? Do you realize that until a few days ago there was nothing on her site about policy? Promising giveaways is not a policy, it's good ol' fashion vote-buying. She is not capable of being POTUS.

      I don't have a "party", so please spare me your lecture. But I've found myself disagreeing more & more with dem ideology. You sound like you're trying to convince yourself that your dem party is still what it was in the 90's.

     
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     Oh you for sure have a party, it does not matter you SAY you do not have a party because the way you see the landscape communicates your true opinions, and nothing wrong with that but no question in my mind you are a TNC/RNC supporter and your replies telegraph that. You are negative, antagonistic, jaded, offensive and angry towards both Biden and Harris and the opposite about Trump. I do not recall a single instance of genuine non-partisan discussion from you about Biden/Harris, and yet you say you are not party affiliated...ok words vs actions prove otherwise.

    My multiple replies about your answer is getting boring, the reason why you are not being handed platform info through the TV is because Trump refuses to debate or really even discuss any content or topic. Trump to me seems to stick to his 10 item narrative that he will discuss a few things and only those things, he will attack and lie and distort all day long, he will quip and demean all day long but he refuses to discuss anything that will pin him down or expose the lack of depth regarding policy or substance.

    Your complaint about Harris is completely a Trump originated issue. If there were a large number of back and forth debates you would see through discussion where someone stands, how else would you find out the fine details and situational answers if not through a person to person debate? The lack of debate and discussion is fully an issue of the mental decline and lack of thorough research from Trump. You should demand more from your guy than to see him awkwardly strut around for 45 minutes at an event or even worse spin his old man wandering nonsense at every single TNC outing. For how you complain about Harris, at least her party has SOMETHING with regard to objectives and a roadmap, even if Harris is a plug and play candidate at worse at least the DNC has structure and function...Trump has completely wrecked the RNC, its now just an extremist group of inexperienced people wandering around with no organization or leadership. The RNC will be in serious peril if they keep allowing Trump and his wacky clan to dominate the party.

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    @THEMUGG

     Oh you for sure have a party, it does not matter you SAY you do not have a party because the way you see the landscape communicates your true opinions, and nothing wrong with that but no question in my mind you are a TNC/RNC supporter and your replies telegraph that. You are negative, antagonistic, jaded, offensive and angry towards both Biden and Harris and the opposite about Trump. I do not recall a single instance of genuine non-partisan discussion from you about Biden/Harris, and yet you say you are not party affiliated...ok words vs actions prove otherwise.

    My multiple replies about your answer is getting boring, the reason why you are not being handed platform info through the TV is because Trump refuses to debate or really even discuss any content or topic. Trump to me seems to stick to his 10 item narrative that he will discuss a few things and only those things, he will attack and lie and distort all day long, he will quip and demean all day long but he refuses to discuss anything that will pin him down or expose the lack of depth regarding policy or substance.

    Your complaint about Harris is completely a Trump originated issue. If there were a large number of back and forth debates you would see through discussion where someone stands, how else would you find out the fine details and situational answers if not through a person to person debate? The lack of debate and discussion is fully an issue of the mental decline and lack of thorough research from Trump. You should demand more from your guy than to see him awkwardly strut around for 45 minutes at an event or even worse spin his old man wandering nonsense at every single TNC outing. For how you complain about Harris, at least her party has SOMETHING with regard to objectives and a roadmap, even if Harris is a plug and play candidate at worse at least the DNC has structure and function...Trump has completely wrecked the RNC, its now just an extremist group of inexperienced people wandering around with no organization or leadership. The RNC will be in serious peril if they keep allowing Trump and his wacky clan to dominate the party.

     
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    In my opinion there’s a lot of opinions in this thread . Doesn’t make any of them right . Or wrong for that matter . But in the end they’re just good old fashioned American opinions . 

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    In my opinion there’s a lot of opinions in this thread . Doesn’t make any of them right . Or wrong for that matter . But in the end they’re just good old fashioned American opinions . 

     
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    Did any of the very ardent harris supporters inside this thread take the time to vote for her in the primary?

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    Did any of the very ardent harris supporters inside this thread take the time to vote for her in the primary?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    I don't have a "party", 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    I don't have a "party", 

     

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    Not necessary at all to laugh at the man . He made a statement and should be given the respect to make it without including a rolling face afterwards in order to antagonize him .

    How is anyone credibly going to usurp what he just wrote ? It’s not possible . And if you say it is possible then good luck with what comes out of Pandora’s box , because you just opened it in regards to posters making declarations about themselves and what can follow after ……

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Not necessary at all to laugh at the man . He made a statement and should be given the respect to make it without including a rolling face afterwards in order to antagonize him .

    How is anyone credibly going to usurp what he just wrote ? It’s not possible . And if you say it is possible then good luck with what comes out of Pandora’s box , because you just opened it in regards to posters making declarations about themselves and what can follow after ……

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Promising giveaways is not a policy, it's good ol' fashion vote-buying. She is not capable of being POTUS. 

    Ooh ooh ooh!   Now do Trump and the giveaways he's been promising in recent weeks!   

     

    I won't wait for your reply...

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Promising giveaways is not a policy, it's good ol' fashion vote-buying. She is not capable of being POTUS. 

    Ooh ooh ooh!   Now do Trump and the giveaways he's been promising in recent weeks!   

     

    I won't wait for your reply...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG    The reason why you two and other republicans are complaining is the content you seek is not being provided on a platter or on some news channel and that is because these candidates are not engaging each other, there is ZERO discussion, ZERO debate, ZERO content to watch and compare person to person and that is 100% Trump and his narrative. So if you want to find details about Harris, use your fingers and search.  it is easier to find her policy than it is to find the QB details for some of the games tonight, it is not difficult at all to find what you are asking. The problem is you are not seeking to FIND you are seeking to DISCREDIT and deflect, just like Trump does. If you seriously were interested from a positive perspective to find her policy you would not be asking these deflect questions, you would have easily found your answers because it is that simple and easy to find.

    @wallstreetcappers

    peace_5   an_clap

     

    i see hers in print     they have been quoted from the debate 5 weeks ago and numerous speeches then relayed in media print and talk shows also   

     hundreds of economists have commented on harris stated and well known policies for many weeks and they agree hers r better     including economic experts like goldman sachs        much better !!

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG    The reason why you two and other republicans are complaining is the content you seek is not being provided on a platter or on some news channel and that is because these candidates are not engaging each other, there is ZERO discussion, ZERO debate, ZERO content to watch and compare person to person and that is 100% Trump and his narrative. So if you want to find details about Harris, use your fingers and search.  it is easier to find her policy than it is to find the QB details for some of the games tonight, it is not difficult at all to find what you are asking. The problem is you are not seeking to FIND you are seeking to DISCREDIT and deflect, just like Trump does. If you seriously were interested from a positive perspective to find her policy you would not be asking these deflect questions, you would have easily found your answers because it is that simple and easy to find.

    @wallstreetcappers

    peace_5   an_clap

     

    i see hers in print     they have been quoted from the debate 5 weeks ago and numerous speeches then relayed in media print and talk shows also   

     hundreds of economists have commented on harris stated and well known policies for many weeks and they agree hers r better     including economic experts like goldman sachs        much better !!

     

     

     

     
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    Amazingly we hear that DJT is losing his mental faculties.! We have had an illegitimate POTUS for 4 years who suffers with dementia! But that is ok in the minds of Lefties! Not to mention for the umpteenth time. We also have a POTUS who craps his pants unknowingly! This creates a mission for the Secret Service. A Secret Service agent has to be at the ready with soap, washcloth and a fresh suit!

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    Amazingly we hear that DJT is losing his mental faculties.! We have had an illegitimate POTUS for 4 years who suffers with dementia! But that is ok in the minds of Lefties! Not to mention for the umpteenth time. We also have a POTUS who craps his pants unknowingly! This creates a mission for the Secret Service. A Secret Service agent has to be at the ready with soap, washcloth and a fresh suit!

     
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    @KellyM_1964

     Im not going down the "much better" road because she uses old stale answers as to how things will get paid for. Nobody thinks the wealthy are going to pay for anything but its an old scheme that sounds fair but never materializes. I do not really have two things to compare, Harris vs Trump because Trump refuses to engage in debate or discussion about details. I can only fall back on the differences between the two political parties and how over time the GOP votes and makes policy and as usual I lean to the social side with regards to spending. Since no party cares about financial responsibility, I will always side with social programs and spending versus military expansion and tax cuts for corporations. It would be swell if the GOP ever did come forward with a policy change that focused on providing for the lesser vs the more wealthy and especially about investing in things like our power grid. I am not in support of the green agenda though because it is not reliable, too expensive and does not really help the environment as it currently stands. 

    If we really wanted to help the earth and our environment it would start at corporations and that would mean consumers would face MASSIVE inflation for goods and services but the true killers of the environment are corps, like Tesla...not the little guy driving their SUV to and from work.

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    @KellyM_1964

     Im not going down the "much better" road because she uses old stale answers as to how things will get paid for. Nobody thinks the wealthy are going to pay for anything but its an old scheme that sounds fair but never materializes. I do not really have two things to compare, Harris vs Trump because Trump refuses to engage in debate or discussion about details. I can only fall back on the differences between the two political parties and how over time the GOP votes and makes policy and as usual I lean to the social side with regards to spending. Since no party cares about financial responsibility, I will always side with social programs and spending versus military expansion and tax cuts for corporations. It would be swell if the GOP ever did come forward with a policy change that focused on providing for the lesser vs the more wealthy and especially about investing in things like our power grid. I am not in support of the green agenda though because it is not reliable, too expensive and does not really help the environment as it currently stands. 

    If we really wanted to help the earth and our environment it would start at corporations and that would mean consumers would face MASSIVE inflation for goods and services but the true killers of the environment are corps, like Tesla...not the little guy driving their SUV to and from work.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @THEMUGG    The reason why you two and other republicans are complaining is the content you seek is not being provided on a platter or on some news channel and that is because these candidates are not engaging each other, there is ZERO discussion, ZERO debate, ZERO content to watch and compare person to person and that is 100% Trump and his narrative. So if you want to find details about Harris, use your fingers and search.  it is easier to find her policy than it is to find the QB details for some of the games tonight, it is not difficult at all to find what you are asking. The problem is you are not seeking to FIND you are seeking to DISCREDIT and deflect, just like Trump does. If you seriously were interested from a positive perspective to find her policy you would not be asking these deflect questions, you would have easily found your answers because it is that simple and easy to find. @wallstreetcappers       i see hers in print     they have been quoted from the debate 5 weeks ago and numerous speeches then relayed in media print and talk shows also     hundreds of economists have commented on harris stated and well known policies for many weeks and they agree hers r better     including economic experts like goldman sachs        much better !!

    @KellyM_1964

     I agree with Goldman Sachs and the hundreds of other economic experts who've been reported to share the same analysis

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @THEMUGG    The reason why you two and other republicans are complaining is the content you seek is not being provided on a platter or on some news channel and that is because these candidates are not engaging each other, there is ZERO discussion, ZERO debate, ZERO content to watch and compare person to person and that is 100% Trump and his narrative. So if you want to find details about Harris, use your fingers and search.  it is easier to find her policy than it is to find the QB details for some of the games tonight, it is not difficult at all to find what you are asking. The problem is you are not seeking to FIND you are seeking to DISCREDIT and deflect, just like Trump does. If you seriously were interested from a positive perspective to find her policy you would not be asking these deflect questions, you would have easily found your answers because it is that simple and easy to find. @wallstreetcappers       i see hers in print     they have been quoted from the debate 5 weeks ago and numerous speeches then relayed in media print and talk shows also     hundreds of economists have commented on harris stated and well known policies for many weeks and they agree hers r better     including economic experts like goldman sachs        much better !!

    @KellyM_1964

     I agree with Goldman Sachs and the hundreds of other economic experts who've been reported to share the same analysis

     

     

     

     
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    @sundance

     As did Reagan, nice of you to stomp on Biden yet again as a means of deflection instead of facing the facts of age in politics. Trump is in bad shape and is not in a position of leading this country AND he will only get worse as time moves forward. We all know how much you dislike Biden but as you can see this thread is not about if sundance likes Biden it is about Trump doing a very poor job at having an economic policy and the complete lack of ability to debate or discuss any depth regarding the most important aspect of being POTUS. The TNC is a ship of fools, no leader and nothing but derisive narrative. You should demand more from your candidate than wacko dancing and wandering mumbling, but it seems the TNC side does not really care about the future of the country or his economic plan as there is none to see.

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     As did Reagan, nice of you to stomp on Biden yet again as a means of deflection instead of facing the facts of age in politics. Trump is in bad shape and is not in a position of leading this country AND he will only get worse as time moves forward. We all know how much you dislike Biden but as you can see this thread is not about if sundance likes Biden it is about Trump doing a very poor job at having an economic policy and the complete lack of ability to debate or discuss any depth regarding the most important aspect of being POTUS. The TNC is a ship of fools, no leader and nothing but derisive narrative. You should demand more from your candidate than wacko dancing and wandering mumbling, but it seems the TNC side does not really care about the future of the country or his economic plan as there is none to see.

     
     
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    Trump is pitching higher taxes!

                                     surprised

    New York CNN —

    Donald Trump on Tuesday was interviewed by Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago, where he once again touted historic tariffs as a way to grow America’s manufacturing sector by "supposedly" making foreign countries foot the bill.

    But, given the economy’s central importance in the 2024 race, it’s worth hammering on an Econ 101 fact: Tariffs are a tax on Americans!!

    A lot of people don’t seem to get this — including Trump, who, CNN has reported, has falsely and repeatedly claimed that China would pay for tariffs he imposes.

    It’s just not how trade works — not now, not ever!!

    an_lightVery simply: When a US admin puts a tariff (read: tax) on, say, Chinese goods, [or any of the other imports the IGNORANT con man has stated he would impose at least 20% tariffs] the actual money going to the US Treasury comes from the American company doing the importing!!! NOT CHINA!!!!  And for that company to stay in business, it needs to make up that cost somewhere else, and that typically means raising prices on its consumers! [ie, inflation!!!!!!!!]

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    Trump is pitching higher taxes!

                                     surprised

    New York CNN —

    Donald Trump on Tuesday was interviewed by Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago, where he once again touted historic tariffs as a way to grow America’s manufacturing sector by "supposedly" making foreign countries foot the bill.

    But, given the economy’s central importance in the 2024 race, it’s worth hammering on an Econ 101 fact: Tariffs are a tax on Americans!!

    A lot of people don’t seem to get this — including Trump, who, CNN has reported, has falsely and repeatedly claimed that China would pay for tariffs he imposes.

    It’s just not how trade works — not now, not ever!!

    an_lightVery simply: When a US admin puts a tariff (read: tax) on, say, Chinese goods, [or any of the other imports the IGNORANT con man has stated he would impose at least 20% tariffs] the actual money going to the US Treasury comes from the American company doing the importing!!! NOT CHINA!!!!  And for that company to stay in business, it needs to make up that cost somewhere else, and that typically means raising prices on its consumers! [ie, inflation!!!!!!!!]

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