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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 1:07 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    You're from New Jersey and breathing all those chemicals has damaged your brain. The northeast a cesspool of left wing snowflakes. Like I stated earlier...take away New York, New Jersey and California then tell me what Hillary's popular vote was ? 




    so you're saying take away three of the most populous states in the country, roughly 21% of the population in the U.S., and hillary would have had a lot fewer votes?  i think you're on to something.  



    take away the patriots, the bills and the dolphins and the jets have a decent shot of winning their division this season, although i still wouldn't bet on them.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    You're from New Jersey and breathing all those chemicals has damaged your brain. The northeast a cesspool of left wing snowflakes. Like I stated earlier...take away New York, New Jersey and California then tell me what Hillary's popular vote was ? 




    so you're saying take away three of the most populous states in the country, roughly 21% of the population in the U.S., and hillary would have had a lot fewer votes?  i think you're on to something.  



    take away the patriots, the bills and the dolphins and the jets have a decent shot of winning their division this season, although i still wouldn't bet on them.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 1:11 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    You're from New Jersey and breathing all those chemicals has damaged your brain. The northeast a cesspool of left wing snowflakes. Like I stated earlier...take away New York, New Jersey and California then tell me what Hillary's popular vote was ? 


    You can't start splitting hairs and saying, "gee, if you take away this state and this one and that one..." It'd be the same as saying, "What if you took Ohio, Florida, and Penn (sorry, Scal) from Trump." People in big cities tend to favor Democrats. People in small rural towns favor Republicans. The trick that Trump has somehow played on those small rural towns is to make them believe he cares about them. A big business man who repeatedly outsourced to foreign countries and busted unions all of a sudden is this everyman and champion of the american worker? Trump only cares about tbe super rich and that's the only people he's looking out for. It's funny how he campaigned that Clinton was in the pockets of big banks then as soon as he gets in office he starts deregulation to again allow big banks to get rich f#cking over hard-working Americans. All of American politics are a farce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    You're from New Jersey and breathing all those chemicals has damaged your brain. The northeast a cesspool of left wing snowflakes. Like I stated earlier...take away New York, New Jersey and California then tell me what Hillary's popular vote was ? 


    You can't start splitting hairs and saying, "gee, if you take away this state and this one and that one..." It'd be the same as saying, "What if you took Ohio, Florida, and Penn (sorry, Scal) from Trump." People in big cities tend to favor Democrats. People in small rural towns favor Republicans. The trick that Trump has somehow played on those small rural towns is to make them believe he cares about them. A big business man who repeatedly outsourced to foreign countries and busted unions all of a sudden is this everyman and champion of the american worker? Trump only cares about tbe super rich and that's the only people he's looking out for. It's funny how he campaigned that Clinton was in the pockets of big banks then as soon as he gets in office he starts deregulation to again allow big banks to get rich f#cking over hard-working Americans. All of American politics are a farce.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 1:19 PM ET #78

    Here's one way you can win the popular vote...

    Twelve employees of a Democrat-linked group focused on mobilizing black voters in Indiana are accused of submitting fake or fraudulent voter registration applications ahead of last year’s general election in order to meet quotas, according to charging documents filed Friday.

    The Indiana Voter Registration Project’s effort to register primarily black voters was overseen by Patriot Majority USA, which has ties to the Democratic Party, including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and former President Bill Clinton.

    A search warrant unsealed on Nov. 14 says some workers admitted to falsifying registrations...
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    Here's one way you can win the popular vote...

    Twelve employees of a Democrat-linked group focused on mobilizing black voters in Indiana are accused of submitting fake or fraudulent voter registration applications ahead of last year’s general election in order to meet quotas, according to charging documents filed Friday.

    The Indiana Voter Registration Project’s effort to register primarily black voters was overseen by Patriot Majority USA, which has ties to the Democratic Party, including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and former President Bill Clinton.

    A search warrant unsealed on Nov. 14 says some workers admitted to falsifying registrations...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 1:19 PM ET #79

    Sanctuary cities and the states they reside in was all Clinton had in her pocket. The republicans swept through middle America and the southern states. This is why the electoral system is so important. Balances the playing field against the liberal machine.
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    Sanctuary cities and the states they reside in was all Clinton had in her pocket. The republicans swept through middle America and the southern states. This is why the electoral system is so important. Balances the playing field against the liberal machine.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 1:21 PM ET #80

    Eight years of democrats was more than enough 
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    Eight years of democrats was more than enough 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 4:36 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

     The republicans swept through middle America and the southern states. This is why the electoral system is so important. Balances the playing field against the liberal machine.


    You mean the "Basket Of Deplorables"????

    Hmmm, I wonder why "I'm With Her" couldn't even swing the overwhelming majority of women voters of those states.....

    The fact that your own friggin' "Husband" was born, bred, served, elected, and eventually POTUS from Arkansas - and you don't even win that state's votes. Speaks volumes.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

     The republicans swept through middle America and the southern states. This is why the electoral system is so important. Balances the playing field against the liberal machine.


    You mean the "Basket Of Deplorables"????

    Hmmm, I wonder why "I'm With Her" couldn't even swing the overwhelming majority of women voters of those states.....

    The fact that your own friggin' "Husband" was born, bred, served, elected, and eventually POTUS from Arkansas - and you don't even win that state's votes. Speaks volumes.....


     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 6:46 PM ET #82


    I am so sick and tired of the lunatic fringe left rejecting any and all claims of malfeasance or general misconduct by the members of their party because "the right" exposed it or purported to expose it. It's just a wholesale rejection of anything and everything left, true or untrue.
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    I am so sick and tired of the lunatic fringe left rejecting any and all claims of malfeasance or general misconduct by the members of their party because "the right" exposed it or purported to expose it. It's just a wholesale rejection of anything and everything left, true or untrue.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 8:51 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:


    I am so sick and tired of the lunatic fringe left rejecting any and all claims of malfeasance or general misconduct by the members of their party because "the right" exposed it or purported to expose it. It's just a wholesale rejection of anything and everything left, true or untrue.
    The right does the exact same thing. And i'm as middle of the pack as it gets so my opinion is completely unbiased. Have you never heard the term "fake news"? Of course you have. Both parties do a lot of shady sh#t. The left believes none of it about their own party and all of it about the other party. And vice versa. This is maybe one of the most hypocritical statements ever made on covers. Like I said, the right does exactly the same thing. They just use trendy catch phrases to reject the left's notions about their party. All government is shady. The republican party does not care about you, and i'm referring to you specifically, unless you are worth 8 figures. And you know what? Neither does the democrats. They just mask it differently. We should all be f#cking libertarians.
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    I am so sick and tired of the lunatic fringe left rejecting any and all claims of malfeasance or general misconduct by the members of their party because "the right" exposed it or purported to expose it. It's just a wholesale rejection of anything and everything left, true or untrue.
    The right does the exact same thing. And i'm as middle of the pack as it gets so my opinion is completely unbiased. Have you never heard the term "fake news"? Of course you have. Both parties do a lot of shady sh#t. The left believes none of it about their own party and all of it about the other party. And vice versa. This is maybe one of the most hypocritical statements ever made on covers. Like I said, the right does exactly the same thing. They just use trendy catch phrases to reject the left's notions about their party. All government is shady. The republican party does not care about you, and i'm referring to you specifically, unless you are worth 8 figures. And you know what? Neither does the democrats. They just mask it differently. We should all be f#cking libertarians.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 9:00 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    so you're saying take away three of the most populous states in the country, roughly 21% of the population in the U.S., and hillary would have had a lot fewer votes?  i think you're on to something.  



    take away the patriots, the bills and the dolphins and the jets have a decent shot of winning their division this season, although i still wouldn't bet on them.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    so you're saying take away three of the most populous states in the country, roughly 21% of the population in the U.S., and hillary would have had a lot fewer votes?  i think you're on to something.  



    take away the patriots, the bills and the dolphins and the jets have a decent shot of winning their division this season, although i still wouldn't bet on them.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2017 - 9:01 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    The right does the exact same thing. And i'm as middle of the pack as it gets so my opinion is completely unbiased. Have you never heard the term "fake news"? Of course you have. Both parties do a lot of shady sh#t. The left believes none of it about their own party and all of it about the other party. And vice versa. This is maybe one of the most hypocritical statements ever made on covers. Like I said, the right does exactly the same thing. They just use trendy catch phrases to reject the left's notions about their party. All government is shady. The republican party does not care about you, and i'm referring to you specifically, unless you are worth 8 figures. And you know what? Neither does the democrats. They just mask it differently. We should all be f#cking libertarians.

    Stu, you are one of the few in here who, IMO, gets it 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    The right does the exact same thing. And i'm as middle of the pack as it gets so my opinion is completely unbiased. Have you never heard the term "fake news"? Of course you have. Both parties do a lot of shady sh#t. The left believes none of it about their own party and all of it about the other party. And vice versa. This is maybe one of the most hypocritical statements ever made on covers. Like I said, the right does exactly the same thing. They just use trendy catch phrases to reject the left's notions about their party. All government is shady. The republican party does not care about you, and i'm referring to you specifically, unless you are worth 8 figures. And you know what? Neither does the democrats. They just mask it differently. We should all be f#cking libertarians.

    Stu, you are one of the few in here who, IMO, gets it 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    The right does the exact same thing. And i'm as middle of the pack as it gets so my opinion is completely unbiased. Have you never heard the term "fake news"? Of course you have. Both parties do a lot of shady sh#t. The left believes none of it about their own party and all of it about the other party. And vice versa. This is maybe one of the most hypocritical statements ever made on covers. Like I said, the right does exactly the same thing. They just use trendy catch phrases to reject the left's notions about their party. All government is shady. The republican party does not care about you, and i'm referring to you specifically, unless you are worth 8 figures. And you know what? Neither does the democrats. They just mask it differently. We should all be f#cking libertarians.

    Settle down Stewy.  Go and read post #75.  I was just yanking his chain again because he makes it so easy.  He won't debate me because in the past I have $hit all over him.  He will defend leftist arguments to his death and when I hit him with facts it's tail between the legs and slink away.  He is the #1 race baiter on this site and it's not even close.  To him if you are black you must be far to the left or your opinion doesn't count.  To him, black conservatives should be shunned.  That is the leftist indoctrination.

    I have been accused of being a liberal and a conservative depending on who I am debating.  I am my own party.  It's called "Common Sense".  Not many people qualify so I haven't gone national.

    Let me make one thing clear!!!!!!!
    Trump was a $hitty candidate.
    Clinton was a $hitty candidate.
    They are both owned, like many others, by GREED.  Congress is a fukkin joke.  Lobbiests are $juice.  The media is useless.

    That being said........
    My life is just fine.  I am 54, semi-retired, (meaning I work when I feel like it) play a lot of golf and take vacations (Reno and Las Vegas for 10 days this month and Maui and Kauai for 2 weeks next month, not sure what to do in August).  I could give a rats a$$ who the President is or not.  We were either going to get a 4 time corporate bankruptcy loser or a lying, evidence destroyer pants suit.  Not going to affect how I live or earn a living.  I just like debating crazy die hard left and right nut jobs.  It's more of a hobby than anything else.

    Nothing will change and it only goes downhill from here.  The toothpaste is out of the tube.  Hate will grow day by day.  Leaks will continue.  Terrorist attacks won't stop.  Big financial institutions will keep $crewing the people etc etc etc..............

    Happiness and success are controlled by each of us individually.  I will never let a politician or right or left extremist control either of those things in my life.
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    The right does the exact same thing. And i'm as middle of the pack as it gets so my opinion is completely unbiased. Have you never heard the term "fake news"? Of course you have. Both parties do a lot of shady sh#t. The left believes none of it about their own party and all of it about the other party. And vice versa. This is maybe one of the most hypocritical statements ever made on covers. Like I said, the right does exactly the same thing. They just use trendy catch phrases to reject the left's notions about their party. All government is shady. The republican party does not care about you, and i'm referring to you specifically, unless you are worth 8 figures. And you know what? Neither does the democrats. They just mask it differently. We should all be f#cking libertarians.

    Settle down Stewy.  Go and read post #75.  I was just yanking his chain again because he makes it so easy.  He won't debate me because in the past I have $hit all over him.  He will defend leftist arguments to his death and when I hit him with facts it's tail between the legs and slink away.  He is the #1 race baiter on this site and it's not even close.  To him if you are black you must be far to the left or your opinion doesn't count.  To him, black conservatives should be shunned.  That is the leftist indoctrination.

    I have been accused of being a liberal and a conservative depending on who I am debating.  I am my own party.  It's called "Common Sense".  Not many people qualify so I haven't gone national.

    Let me make one thing clear!!!!!!!
    Trump was a $hitty candidate.
    Clinton was a $hitty candidate.
    They are both owned, like many others, by GREED.  Congress is a fukkin joke.  Lobbiests are $juice.  The media is useless.

    That being said........
    My life is just fine.  I am 54, semi-retired, (meaning I work when I feel like it) play a lot of golf and take vacations (Reno and Las Vegas for 10 days this month and Maui and Kauai for 2 weeks next month, not sure what to do in August).  I could give a rats a$$ who the President is or not.  We were either going to get a 4 time corporate bankruptcy loser or a lying, evidence destroyer pants suit.  Not going to affect how I live or earn a living.  I just like debating crazy die hard left and right nut jobs.  It's more of a hobby than anything else.

    Nothing will change and it only goes downhill from here.  The toothpaste is out of the tube.  Hate will grow day by day.  Leaks will continue.  Terrorist attacks won't stop.  Big financial institutions will keep $crewing the people etc etc etc..............

    Happiness and success are controlled by each of us individually.  I will never let a politician or right or left extremist control either of those things in my life.
     
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    *Lobbiests are $juice
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    Ok spell check lobbiests are vile.  Is that tame enough?
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    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.

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    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.


    You have obviously read enough of scal's BS to know him well 
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    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.


    You have obviously read enough of scal's BS to know him well 
     
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    Sanctuary cities and the states they reside in was all Clinton had in her pocket. The republicans swept through middle America and the southern states. This is why the electoral system is so important. Balances the playing field against the liberal machine.

    So now, a truly democratic 1 for 1 vote (that is, if you vote your 1 vote is equal to everyone else, in which case I WOULD VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION) is bad because middle America and Southern States need MORE representation even though they have far LESS population. LOL.

    You've just weighted something that is wholly UNDEMOCRATIC.

    Look up the origins of the electoral college system and get back to me as to why it exists in the first place. You won't be surprised as to why it exists (it has everything NOT to do with democracy).
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    Sanctuary cities and the states they reside in was all Clinton had in her pocket. The republicans swept through middle America and the southern states. This is why the electoral system is so important. Balances the playing field against the liberal machine.

    So now, a truly democratic 1 for 1 vote (that is, if you vote your 1 vote is equal to everyone else, in which case I WOULD VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION) is bad because middle America and Southern States need MORE representation even though they have far LESS population. LOL.

    You've just weighted something that is wholly UNDEMOCRATIC.

    Look up the origins of the electoral college system and get back to me as to why it exists in the first place. You won't be surprised as to why it exists (it has everything NOT to do with democracy).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.


    I can't....I just can't. I've been doing this for 11 years and it's done nothing with these posters. I can't keep embarrassing them.
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    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.


    I can't....I just can't. I've been doing this for 11 years and it's done nothing with these posters. I can't keep embarrassing them.
     
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    so you're saying take away three of the most populous states in the country, roughly 21% of the population in the U.S., and hillary would have had a lot fewer votes?  i think you're on to something.  



    take away the patriots, the bills and the dolphins and the jets have a decent shot of winning their division this season, although i still wouldn't bet on them.  


    Both the Democrats and the republicans knew where the goalpost and the endzone was. The Republicans scored TD's in Green Bay, Detroit and Pittsburgh while the Democrats went to go take a leak at halftime and never returned.

    It's like after the game the Democrats argued that their fgs should be worth more points because they were kicked from further away.

    Or, the Democrats crying because they'd rather have the endzone at the +40 yard line.



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    so you're saying take away three of the most populous states in the country, roughly 21% of the population in the U.S., and hillary would have had a lot fewer votes?  i think you're on to something.  



    take away the patriots, the bills and the dolphins and the jets have a decent shot of winning their division this season, although i still wouldn't bet on them.  


    Both the Democrats and the republicans knew where the goalpost and the endzone was. The Republicans scored TD's in Green Bay, Detroit and Pittsburgh while the Democrats went to go take a leak at halftime and never returned.

    It's like after the game the Democrats argued that their fgs should be worth more points because they were kicked from further away.

    Or, the Democrats crying because they'd rather have the endzone at the +40 yard line.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I can't....I just can't. I've been doing this for 11 years and it's done nothing with these posters. I can't keep embarrassing them.


    The honest truth is: The world would be a better place if there were less people like you and more people that disagree with 90% of everything you stand for.

    You need a good look at yourself from a third person perspective. Even the covers liberals think you're a joke.
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    I can't....I just can't. I've been doing this for 11 years and it's done nothing with these posters. I can't keep embarrassing them.


    The honest truth is: The world would be a better place if there were less people like you and more people that disagree with 90% of everything you stand for.

    You need a good look at yourself from a third person perspective. Even the covers liberals think you're a joke.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I can't....I just can't. I've been doing this for 11 years and it's done nothing with these posters. I can't keep embarrassing them.
    I’m a republican now but I was born and raised a liberal democrat. You can’t fool me. I know every single possible angle you could possibly take to formulate a counter argument.

    I used to be a member of the team. I know all the liberal democrat plays and the playbook. You have absolutely nothing. I just kicked your @ss. The only thing you have is lies, emotion and name calling. That’s it. Give up now before I embarrass you further.

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    I can't....I just can't. I've been doing this for 11 years and it's done nothing with these posters. I can't keep embarrassing them.
    I’m a republican now but I was born and raised a liberal democrat. You can’t fool me. I know every single possible angle you could possibly take to formulate a counter argument.

    I used to be a member of the team. I know all the liberal democrat plays and the playbook. You have absolutely nothing. I just kicked your @ss. The only thing you have is lies, emotion and name calling. That’s it. Give up now before I embarrass you further.

     
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    Posts 97 and 98 are furtherance of the pummeling that started in posts 35, 46 and 52.

    There is some serious verbal butt raping going on, and the recipient has no vaseline.

    But the all-time classic exchange on this site remains ...

    Scal; How often do you as a white male, face any such prospect. EVER.
    Now STFU please.
    You know not of what you speak.

    Stu; I'm black and from Oakland you f#cking idiot. 

          
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    Posts 97 and 98 are furtherance of the pummeling that started in posts 35, 46 and 52.

    There is some serious verbal butt raping going on, and the recipient has no vaseline.

    But the all-time classic exchange on this site remains ...

    Scal; How often do you as a white male, face any such prospect. EVER.
    Now STFU please.
    You know not of what you speak.

    Stu; I'm black and from Oakland you f#cking idiot. 

          
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

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    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?


    Super Liberal Leftists like Scal are the ones that want to keep the race war going. Keep people down, use the MSM and colleges to spread their "Rich Whitey is bad" propaganda.
    I've asked Scal before, name other country that gives minorities a greater chance to succeed than America. He can't answer it, because it's a trick question. In case you think you can name one, let me leave you with this:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2017/jun/12/celebrity-rich-list-forbes-taylor-swift-diddy-beyonce

    Top 2 highest paid celebrities of 2017 - P. Diddy & Beyoncé......

    A BLACK man who came from nothing
    A BLACK woman who came from nothing

    End of discussion.....

    Now Scal, take your 32-32-1 record, go hibernate for the summer, save your words for your long winded football write ups......
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    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?


    Super Liberal Leftists like Scal are the ones that want to keep the race war going. Keep people down, use the MSM and colleges to spread their "Rich Whitey is bad" propaganda.
    I've asked Scal before, name other country that gives minorities a greater chance to succeed than America. He can't answer it, because it's a trick question. In case you think you can name one, let me leave you with this:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2017/jun/12/celebrity-rich-list-forbes-taylor-swift-diddy-beyonce

    Top 2 highest paid celebrities of 2017 - P. Diddy & Beyoncé......

    A BLACK man who came from nothing
    A BLACK woman who came from nothing

    End of discussion.....

    Now Scal, take your 32-32-1 record, go hibernate for the summer, save your words for your long winded football write ups......
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsmyth:



    Both the Democrats and the republicans knew where the goalpost and the endzone was. The Republicans scored TD's in Green Bay, Detroit and Pittsburgh while the Democrats went to go take a leak at halftime and never returned.

    It's like after the game the Democrats argued that their fgs should be worth more points because they were kicked from further away.

    Or, the Democrats crying because they'd rather have the endzone at the +40 yard line.





    i'm not sure i understand this analogy, but the good thing about football is the team that scores the most points wins.  likewise, i think it makes more sense that the candidate that gets the most votes wins too, but i'm not one to complain about how that worked.  it's fucked up like most things with our government but the candidates knew the rules going in so they need to adjust accordingly. 
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    Both the Democrats and the republicans knew where the goalpost and the endzone was. The Republicans scored TD's in Green Bay, Detroit and Pittsburgh while the Democrats went to go take a leak at halftime and never returned.

    It's like after the game the Democrats argued that their fgs should be worth more points because they were kicked from further away.

    Or, the Democrats crying because they'd rather have the endzone at the +40 yard line.





    i'm not sure i understand this analogy, but the good thing about football is the team that scores the most points wins.  likewise, i think it makes more sense that the candidate that gets the most votes wins too, but i'm not one to complain about how that worked.  it's fucked up like most things with our government but the candidates knew the rules going in so they need to adjust accordingly. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2017 - 12:10 PM ET #99

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.


      Shh...please keep this to yourself.  Leftists hate facts, and would rather blames others for their self-inflicted misery.  And all that logic and truth you posted, is too much for their infantile brains to handle.  

    Unless it is a youngster who can be shown the light with massive reprogramming from the liberal lies, let these leftist hippies live in their dystopian reality, and lean on other delusional, self-hating people, for immoral support. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    ... when a black man like Thomas Sowell comes out and says to black americans, speak english, pull your pants up, wear clothes that fit, wear a hat properly, cut your hair, shave your face, stop putting minerals in your teeth, stop tattooing your neck and face, obey all laws, don’t do drugs, don’t sell drugs, obey police, stop having unprotected sex, stop shooting each other...

    ... stop fighting each other, stop glorifying thug culture, stop the gangs, stop driving gangster style vehicles, stop rioting, stop committing arson, stop being racist towards whites, stop the black militant ideology, stop screaming racism, stop the victimhood bullsh!t and go get a damn job, learn a trade or get an education is labeled an uncle tom against his own people.

    Martin Luther King fought, died and paved the way for black Americans to achieve the american dream. The civil rights war is over. His dream was achieved. The reason I know the war is over is because of the successes of black republican americans.

    If America is like what scalabrine says it is, how is it possible for black americans like Thomas Sowell, David Webb, Shelby Steele, David Clark, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, Allan West, David Clark, Ben Carson, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Tim Scott, Mia Love, Will Hurd etc... I could keep going, how is it they all achieved the American dream with black skin?

    If the civil rights war is still alive and well, why were these black republican americans allowed to succeed? If police are out to kill black people, why are these people still alive? If police are out to lock up black people, why haven’t the people I listed been arrested?

    Why haven't they or any relatives been shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single case of a black american republican being shot with their hands up? Why hasn't there been a single black republican screaming police brutality? How come every single case that liberals use to scream racism involves a thug with a rap sheet? If the US is institutionally racist, why do all the black people I listed have successful careers, homes and college degrees?

    The issue with scalabrine is that he finds black Americans, who have succeeded and educated themselves, who have risen from poverty, who speak out against thug culture, who speak out against criminality, who show allegiance to the American flag, who speak out against white racism, who support the rule of law, who support police, who speak out against rioting...

    ... who speak out on black on black crime rates, who speak out on the issue that they are not safe in their own black communities, who speak out against victimhood, who believe in personal responsibility, who decry the notion of institutional racism in 2017 to be against their own people. It's racist and bigoted. The truth is the liberal narrative is a lie.


      Shh...please keep this to yourself.  Leftists hate facts, and would rather blames others for their self-inflicted misery.  And all that logic and truth you posted, is too much for their infantile brains to handle.  

    Unless it is a youngster who can be shown the light with massive reprogramming from the liberal lies, let these leftist hippies live in their dystopian reality, and lean on other delusional, self-hating people, for immoral support. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2017 - 4:10 PM ET #100

    Hugh_Jorgan - I agree. The exchange between Stu and Scal is by far the funniest exchange I have ever read in the politics forum section. It belongs in the covers archives.

    GimmeMoneyNow - Yup, the democrat race war is fabricated. It took being re-educated by black american republicans for me to see the light, then, I started to search for work of other minority republicans, I found more work written by black republicans, indian republicans, asian republicans, and female republicans. I was stunned at the amount of liberal lies I was raised to believe.

    The entire liberal narrative is a lie. Everything you hear in grades kinder-high school, in college, from liberal professors, in Hollywood movies, from actors, from comedians, in the media, is a lie.

    Name the topic, and it’s a lie. Whether it is about race, history, native americans, slavery, religion, science, economics, police brutality, the criminal justice system, it’s a fabricated liberal lie.

    Wizardofroz - I agree with everything you said. My favorite debater is Ben Shapiro. I’ve never seen a political debater eviscerate his opponents with such ease. He says the reason that he loves to debate liberals is because he enjoys it. It’s fun for him.

    I agree with him. It’s fun for me too. I know I have no chance to change scalabrine. I know that he is a lost cause. I do it purely for my own entertainment.

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    Hugh_Jorgan - I agree. The exchange between Stu and Scal is by far the funniest exchange I have ever read in the politics forum section. It belongs in the covers archives.

    GimmeMoneyNow - Yup, the democrat race war is fabricated. It took being re-educated by black american republicans for me to see the light, then, I started to search for work of other minority republicans, I found more work written by black republicans, indian republicans, asian republicans, and female republicans. I was stunned at the amount of liberal lies I was raised to believe.

    The entire liberal narrative is a lie. Everything you hear in grades kinder-high school, in college, from liberal professors, in Hollywood movies, from actors, from comedians, in the media, is a lie.

    Name the topic, and it’s a lie. Whether it is about race, history, native americans, slavery, religion, science, economics, police brutality, the criminal justice system, it’s a fabricated liberal lie.

    Wizardofroz - I agree with everything you said. My favorite debater is Ben Shapiro. I’ve never seen a political debater eviscerate his opponents with such ease. He says the reason that he loves to debate liberals is because he enjoys it. It’s fun for him.

    I agree with him. It’s fun for me too. I know I have no chance to change scalabrine. I know that he is a lost cause. I do it purely for my own entertainment.

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